Should companies let you know if you don't get a job after an interview?
Agree. However I can say from experience that I have been working for the biggest companies in the It industry and not even a Happy birthday card or email I received from HR. And I was their employee already...
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I have never heard of a company that sends birthday cards to their employees. That would be a sign of a company that really cares about their employees.
Or just a token gesture to make it seem like they care.
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Hi, Not even an email I received from my employers saying happy birthday over the +15 years of work in the industry.
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The biggest companies tend to be the least personal.
When I worked for a major investment firm with hundreds of employees, it was unheard of for anyone to get so much as a birthday email.
When I worked for a smaller engineering company with about 40 people, everyone got a birthday party in the kitchen.
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We tend to know that it is someone's birthday by the cake they leave in the kitchen. :)
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I've never once heard from a company post interview unless it was a job offer. Sometimes they let me know during the interview, positive or negative, and sometimes I could feel that the interview went poorly such that I basically knew already, but I've not once heard from a company post interview except for receiving a job offer. I don't think they're being malicious, I think the people involved are just so busy that they don't think to follow up with everyone that was interviewed but didn't get the job - they're too focused on what they need to do to bring the new person on board.
Anyway, good luck with the job search. It honestly feels like such a crap shoot sometimes. I once interviewed for a very similar position at two different companies, where one company was thoroughly unimpressed with my knowledge, while the other company was like, "Wow, you already know about this? That's fantastic! Here, let us take you out to lunch so we can chat some more."
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Heh, I hear ya. What is equally frustrating are companies posting job opportunities on online job boards, and they don't bother responding or acknowledging your application. And just as annoying are most of those job listings have not been removed long after the position has been filled.
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IMO it's a byproduct of the increasing cultural tendency of poor empathy and consequently dehumanizing fellow people. Drives me bonkers. Have to submit mass applications online, only to have 99% of them get ignored or instantly rejected because your resume is an idea, not representation of a living breathing human.
It's that even after an in-person interview you still may be viewed as little more than a solidified concept--it's why networking and connections are nearly a requirement now to obtain decent employment.
Good luck with the job search! I hope the toil bears fruit soon. :)
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People here (Greece) say bosses are like that because of the financial crisis. I say they were always that way and now they just have the perfect opportunity to be soulless dicks.
Yep, connections are everything, unfortunately. And shamelessness always helps. I want to scream when I see people I know first-hand that they can't even write a coherent paragraph take jobs and get paid more than I can even dream of, just because they are networked and they don't care if they mess up and blame others.
Thank you. :-)
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A while back I went for a job interview and was told by the company they would let me know by the end of the day who had gotten the job. Three days later I hadn't heard back but I noticed the company had posted on their facebook page a few hours after my interview welcoming the two people who had gotten the job instead of me and I felt it was a bit rude to announce that publicly before getting in touch with me. A week later I got an e-mail telling me I hadn't got the job. Two weeks after that the company phoned me up and asked if I was available to go and do the job for free because one of the people they hired wasn't actually qualified - something I had discovered myself at the recruitment day I'd had to attend before the shortlisted candidates got called back for interviews.
Sometimes people are dicks. Don't let it get you down and I wish you better luck in the future.
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Two weeks after that the company phoned me up and asked if I was available to go and do the job for free because one of the people they hired wasn't actually qualified
Wow. The shameless insolence of some people... I hope you put them in their place.
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I was actually pretty tetchy but I kept my cool long enough to find out why it took over a week to send me an e-mail after a decision had clearly been made. Apparently it was because the legal team had to authorise all such e-mails before they could be sent out.
Then I went mental.
Now it's all a bit awkward because the company in question are also my landlords. And the job would have been working on the estate where I live. And people here aren't very happy about who was taken on.
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Well, like I say me and several other candidates were called in for a recruitment day where we were assessed during several activities. I felt it was obvious who the two people who were going to get the job were about 5 minutes into said recruitment day. It was me and those two people who were called back for an interview. It was those two people who got the job. It all felt like a waste of time.
I was asked to do the job that the unqualified person was being paid for but not doing on a volunteer basis and in return it would go in my favour if funding became available for more positions in the future. But currently all funding for the project is in danger due to rules that were broken when the unqualified person was hired.
Whatever. It was all far too political for me and I was busy going for 100% achievements in Skyrim SE anyway.
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Rule that is never wrong: Companies who ask for free work so that you'll be first in line when money comes up are not to be trusted. They aim to run perpetually on free work and are the worst of scammers.
Probably those two persons where relatives or affairs or favors owed. You dodged a bullet, if you ask me.
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I'm in the same position you are, and it absolutely sucks. It's excruciating and honest to god I feel like when I'm doing to job hunt I feel like I'm interacting with the mythical fae - thousands of rules, none of them obvious, and a single misstep can fuck you up for good and you wouldn't even know it. And, of course, they give absolutely zero shits about you.
I don't know what to tell you except holy fuck how awful this is <:c. At least know it's not personal - and, hey, at least you're getting interviews!
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It's worse in a way, because I'm good enough to get interviews but not the actual job. :-( After the first interview I got excited, after the fifth one I've started to believe no one will ever hire me.
Good luck, I hope we both find a (not-shitty) job soon!
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Not being able to reply to applications because you're swamped in them I could get -- your HR department may genuinely have better things to do than send everyone standardized rejections. Or rather, it probably really doesn't, but they may have a bad workflow set up that doesn't let HR just push a button and have that done without any hassle. I mean, presumably they still look at all the applications to find the worthwhile candidates, so how much more trouble could it possibly be to send back a polite "no"?
But there's no excuse for not following up on an actual meeting, since you obviously had the time and effort to set that up. It's basic decency to let someone know the outcome of that, regardless of what it was. "Let me just pretend this never happened" would not be an acceptable response to any other real life meeting, much less one in a professional context. It's inconsiderate, and unnecessarily so. Just make sending the rejection part of the meeting process. It's not like the interviewers have to do this in person.
Of course, I don't own a company, so what do I know.
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Yes, exactly. Especially since other companies do, it's not unheard of. It's just these people choose to be dicks.
Also, IMnHO, HR depts today are a waste of space. They used to be responsible for choosing the right candidate (not a fool-proof system anyway), but now they just do bot jobs. I loathe the companies that ask you to submit a CV (the document us applicants so carefully craft to showcase our skills and experience in the format we choose) and then make you fill out those shitty, typical CV data-entry forms (I almost never proceed with those applications, I'm too old to fill in dozens of forms because HR is stupid) just because HR can only ctrl+F keywords and they can't be bothered to read a 2-page CV per applicant. If you don't have the exact wording that a stupid HR exec thought of, you just aren't going to get picked, even if you are the perfect fit for the job. Or if your degree is from a different Uni, or have slightly different title?
CV forms are a plague and I wish I could kill them with fire.
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Lots of shitty companies do this, while keeping your data just in case something goes wrong with their first or second or wtv choice so they can get back to you as a backup option. This is plain stupid.
Others just don't care about the applicants and treat them like animals knowing there's a big supply of them.
Usually this is the first contact with the company and if they don't give a damn about you right from the start, you won't have a pleasant time with them.
I never let the persons I interviewed wait for an answer. After the phone screening I always told them the threshold they need to pass to be taken into consideration for the job and the results were announced by the end of the interview while the definitive answer had a clear deadline known by everyone.
Back in the day when I went to interviews I always hated the bullshit attitude most of the companies had and their horrible practices.
Stay away from such companies and plainly ignore them if they don't have the common sense to reply in a timely manner. Don't wait on them forever and just move on and look for a better alternative.
Good luck!
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I've been looking for work for almost two years and I can count on one hand the number of times I got some sort of response.
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I mean, we both thought I had a good enough chance for the job that we both took the time to attend a meeting, but you can't take the time to spend 1 minute to send me the standard copy-pasted rejection?
This. It's so fucking inconsiderate, especially when they are the ones that came looking for you first.
I am baffled at how some people don't seem to realize that letting a candidate know is basic fucking human decency.
Also, I don't know how it works in other countries, but where I live companies don't pay your travel expenses when you go to an interview. You can spend money and several hours out of your day to get to a meeting that to them is literally a fraction of the time investment, and a lot of times it's for nothing. It's like you are worthless to them.
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I live in Greece. Some bosses frown upon the fact they have to pay you your salary, travel expenses are sci-fi territory (or really, really big international companies, which is also sci-fi in my case because I don't have the connections).
They don't consider you an asset, they just see you as an expense.
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Many posted jobs simply don't exist. There's a hospital complex nearby that's been looking for a financial analyst since 2007.
I had an interview yesterday and they were so disorganized and incompetent that I screamed at the HR flak, flipped her off, and ran out of there.
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Don't even get me started on jobs that are posted just to take the heat of the manager who has already decided to hire his son/ nephew/ mistress. These are the worst, because they go through the full process for as long as possible, so they can justify the shoe-in.
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That sucks, and I've been there. It's honestly rare for most companies to follow up with people who are not getting the job, though. I will tell you that I tended to call them back myself and, very constructively, ask to understand why they went with another candidate so that I could improve. In one case, I actually had one of those companies offer me a job later on (which I didn't take, but it was appreciated) - not sure if it was another position that opened up, or if my follow-up made them re-think the position. No matter what, that information is valuable to you as long as you can be objective, because you will either improve something that needs improvement (so that you can perform better in your next interview), or you'll find out that the company is super douchey and not constructive at all in how they deal with you, in which case you'll know that you dodged a bullet. ;)
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and don't let me wait in vain for an answer?
By my experience (in the United States), normally they tell you "We'll let you know within X days", so that even if they do fail to call, you know when to stop waiting for a call. Then again, speaking as someone who has lived in numerous states, shitty management is a dominant mainstay out here as well, so hearing of similarly poor interactions out here certainly wouldn't surprise me.
Given what we hear about Greece, ever since the economic stuff first hit international news, the implication that elements of employment out there are rough and disorganized doesn't come across as surprising, either- especially given that current news still indicates the nation as being under recession conditions (and in any circumstance where unemployment is high, valuation of [potential] employees tends to be very low).
(Example article: English version, Greek version)
(Key quote:)
Economic recovery will be key to bringing down a jobless rate of 21 percent, the highest in the eurozone,
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I hate, absolutely hate it when I go to a job interview and never hear from the company again.
I get they maybe can't reply personally to hundreds or CVs (although many do, but that's another rant), but not even let the short-listed interviewed candidates know?
I mean, we both thought I had a good enough chance for the job that we both took the time to attend a meeting, but you can't take the time to spend 1 minute to send me the standard copy-pasted rejection? Even if the CVs received run in the thousands, the interviews are typically in the dozens, max, so, I don't know, be a decent, polite human being and professional and don't let me wait in vain for an answer?
Y'all gonna get a nice GA when I get a job, be patient. :-)
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