He will come back and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFyRddUwzRU&feature=fvwrel
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Another plausible reason that I have concocted as to why this rule exist is that you can just do private giveaways so that only one other person can enter it and that person is your friend. So you and you friend keeps on making a giveaway involving one game giving it back and forth until you guys reach an godly amount of money spent on giveaway and achieved that with only one fortix.
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If they were going to do that, they wouldn't have to have the gift anyway. They could just give the Railworks DLC Bundle to each other over and over again.
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That's obviously true. But what about trading or selling? There is a little chance that anyone can win the exact game he wants. But what if this person won another game and want to trade it in exchange for the game he wants much more? Or sell the game to get... i don't know... to buy a pony? ^_^
Of course i mean a person who is not a scammer of any kind or anything like that. Someone who just want to use the opportunity in a polite way. Not making any online game market or using billion of accounts or a billion of friends to get games to sell and make profits. Just a single man who want to make a single action.
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Why did this person enter for a game they did not want, then? He should simply only enter giveaways for the game he wants. By winning a giveaway, he deprives someone who actually wants the game from getting it.
It'd be like a Battlefield 3 and COD-Hater fanboy winning COD: MW3 in the midst of COD Fanboys.
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And what's the chances of getting a game you want? Is there any Morrowind or Oblivion giveaways atm? And if there is some amount of giveaways you would like to win - is there a 100% chance that you will get this game? No.
Also, if someone won a game it's his luck, chance, happy moment, etc. So he should use the possibility. This hater fanboy, for example, won Modern Warfare 3. Others didn't won - they loss. How many people win the giveaway? - one. It happens all over the world, in all countries, societies, different groups, etc. Someone win - someone do not. And people here seems like want to make some kind of a "magic kingdom". At the other hand those guys who didn't won MW3 - because it was a single copy, not 1000 copies - they can win another game, trade it or sell it and put a little extra cash and get their own copy of MW3, with lower price. Is it really doesn't make sense? So more people will gain a happiness :) The one who won the MW3 giveaway and those who won other games and after some combinations also got their MW3.
Also, people want to control others. It's a common instinct. But it will never be fully gained, otherwise we would be inside machines to produce electricity. Making a rule system do reduce the possible ways of scamming. But not any system can't provide 100% defence against that. Do really you can't call 1000 friends and enter giveaways to win 5-10 games before admin will ban you? You can do this even now. So what's the point? The point is that you just feel yourself a bit more protected when there is some words under words "rules". But belive me, if someone want to overpass something, he will do that anyway. It's just the same as software copy protection. They think they can protect their games better with every new software, but... Assasin't Creed (can't remember the exact game of the series) copy protection were overpassed after a several hours of release date.
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Even so, if we start allowing people to use what they win for whatever they want, we start losing the line between givers and leechers.
If we let people trade away their won games, why can't we let them give them away? This is where the line breaks. If everyone decides to give away what they win, there's essentially no point in this site anymore. You win only to give away.
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But i did agreed that rule must contain the part: Don't giveaway the games you won.
But why don't trade or sell it off the site? Without boosting or scamming. And about leechers. Admins can control that. For example: If you want to trade a single game you won for another game you want - inform the admin. Tell him which game in which giveaway you won, by providing links, etc. And tell him how did you handle with that game - if you traded it tell him for exchange of what and it can be noted somehow on you account: "Trine 2 - Traded for Super Meat Boy" or something like that. Let's make it obligatory to report of what you are doing with your won game.
Letting people to trade or sell, but still under control of the admins and community.
To be clear: There is a giveaway with 2k entries. At least half of them are leechers. Other half - 1 000 want the game. Only 1 person can be a winner. 999 guys will not win. The points you have to use for entering the giveaway is a 10% of a summary cost off all games that is in the list now. So 99.9% of all users aren't happy, because they can't win the exact game. But allowing them to sell or trade their won games can make them happier. But all of this must be official and must be clearly noted on your account.
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If you want to be free to do as you please with what you win, go to playblink. In here, and specially with that attitude, you'll only get flamed.
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Imagine this site as a stream of a river. Some branches are "corrupted" - real scammers did that. But a bigger part is a source of life for those who are living near the river. You say - only drink. Some people say - exchange it for clothes. Or something like. Why not?
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no thanks
edit ok, to be slightly less flippant: no, I'm not going to read your huge post. The point of the rule is to prevent someone from winning a ton of gifts and then selling them on the trade market. How disrespectful and rude is it, that when you win a game that someone purchased with their own hard earned money, you give it away or sell it? It's pretty awful, and I completely oppose anything that would allow this.
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It's your views. Others can think in another way. People are different. It's ok for me if someone who possibly win the game i'm giving away will trade or sell it if he needs it. Even better if he will inform me if he traded this game (for exchange of what) or sold it.
P.S.: Do you know even a one single person here, on steamgifts, who won a ton of games? And if we are talking about a group of people who is leeching the games or a single person with multiple accounts who do that. They CAN and ARE doing this even now. And admins can ban them even now.
P.P.S.: I'm not saying: "LET'S MAKE AN ANARCHY! I'M A PIRATE! YAAAAR!" System can be improoved in some way without "killing" the basic.
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Well i have another idea. Some people here don't like the idea of exchanging. They are even free to insult someone who don't share their views... Other guys say: "Hey. Go on. Do whatever you want". So how about make another "improvement" to the system. Let it be optional. If the giveaway creator doesn't want his game to be traded or anything else - he can choose it. If he is free with that - he can choose it.
New tags: "Tradeable" - "Only to redeem on existing account"
hm?
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