They just changed vote up / vote down buttons to bigger ones with explanations on them on Steam Greenlight.

http://i.imgur.com/jhARM.png

And made a curious announcement:

http://steamcommunity.com/games/765/announcements/detail/1317556891741839763

Most noticeable part being "The first update is a $100 fee for someone to post to Steam Greenlight."

There have been a hundred joke posts and several hundreds of pre-alpha and concept submissions, hopefully this will cut it down to release ready games.

What do you think?

12 years ago*

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Appreciate that Steam is stepping up to reduce the noise in Greenlight but by imposing a fee, making life harder then it already is for decent people.

12 years ago
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Looking at the feedback that some point and click adventure games got on greenlight, i can see the introduction of the fee as a deterrent against indies instead of a deterrent against spam.

I can't imagine why some indie developer (1 person developing a point and click adventure), whose budget is very tight (yes in some cases even $100 matter) will be paying to put his game on greenlight just so he can get comments like "these kind of games are stupid, bring real games!!".

Imagine what chances To the moon would have had with comments like: "rpgmaker games are shit. downvoted!". Yeah, Greenlight is a bit shit right now.

12 years ago
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I agree, it should be more like the system on kickstarter. Make only the payment final, when it's releasing on steam or when it's spam. When not, just do a retrobution

12 years ago
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[http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/05/green-for-greenlight-valve-now-charging-100-fee/](From the article Valzi linked) “I know many [who live from paycheck-to-paycheck] in the indie community,” he explained. “However, I’ve never seen a living-on-the-edge team who couldn’t scrounge up the $100 or so for an iOS license or the Xbox Live Indie Games license, etc.”

I agree with this... BUT the major difference is, $100 for a license is not the same as $100 for the POSSIBILITY to get on Steam. I understand Steam's need to cut down on the spam and this clearly does it, but you have to ask "at what cost?" How many legitimate games are missing out on because the dev doesn't want to gamble $100?
And asking the community for money for this is kind of shitty IMO, not for the dev or for the asking part, but because it's a gamble. Would you support a dev who said "Hey guys, I'm going to the casino tonight and want to take donations"?

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They should be able to put up the $100 fee AND get it refunded if their game doesn't make it on Steam.

Joke posts, however, will NOT have their money refunded, and their Steam accounts will also be banned.

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100$ is too much. I think 10 $ would be enough since a noob that puts a random game in Greenlight would never pay money for it.

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Closed 12 years ago by echoMateria.