I don't know if i should even do this, offcourse i know it's not a medical forum, but i am really at a wits end, and also made me much more quiet the last 6 months.
Since november when i had to let go of Bowy i moved a washing machine/dryer on my own several times because she left me with fleas, and since then my world turned upside down, in that i started to leak fluid from behind, so a form of incontinence, luckily and i like to keep it at that, it's just clean fluid, if it dried up again you wouldn't even notice and smell it. Combined with a germphobia it's been a very killing combination and it's also i can't really google much on it, as iti also seem to have some very obscure thing it seems.

In march i had a treatment for internal hemmoroids, the surgeon said your problems should remain steady or get better, but lucky me it got worse, and i even got a second procedure done but that also didn't make it better.
For some weird reason (yet another bad break) incontinence is only covered frontal and not from behind in our country, so around june/july i bought my own fitness thing, some item with a spring you can put between your legs and press against it, but offcouse that yet again only made it more worse. Where normally i only had problems after waking up until i had to go to the bathroom, i now also have "accidents" later on in the day in lesser form.

One would say go to a doctor, but the surgeon just shrugged his shoulders, my stomach doctor said he didn't know and i should probably just live with it ..And i had an MRI taken for my liver and i was like can't they do one for the lower area while they were at it, but that required different settings.
But that stomach doctor also said a MRI there would likely be useless according to him, and i have a general doctor that doesn't even have a clue about an MRI there.

With a lot of hassle that stomach doctor was so kind to fill in a form so i got fysio therapy covered now, and i expected (and was told) they would examine me with a device and maybe a camera inside, and i hoped that would show something in that lower area has shifted and i would need surgery, but they didn't look, monday i got my second appointment, and i still don't know if they gonna do it then.

I just find it all very weird that no doctor can even help me guide through this and that there aren't some simple tests, in case if things have shifted.
I don't know if i could do and try things myself, like if someone would tell me take a 30 minute walk every day i would be right on it.
Just maybe there is just 1 person out there that can recognize this, and help me out.

On the other hand lots of other weird things just happening to me:
-Like just going to the store and an old lady as a customer reads a help wanted sign in that store and asks me if that job isn't something for me (like is it written on my forehead that i am jobless),
-My diabates nurse emailed me if i shouldn't just quit my diabetes medicine when i haven't tested my blood for six months so there was absolutely no ground for it to quit and say that.
-And then i was told a while ago by a person that helped me but quit 3 weeks ago without even a goodbye note or give me a replacement, i should never worry about losing my wellfare and now they suddenly started coming after me again after 4 years, fear of losing my wellfare, and thus also money for my rental and my house. And to top that off they also cut me off my meds 10 weeks ago that gave me some stress relief.

The last few months feels like being on a thight rope while 100 people are throwing stuff at you and i got weird stuff like that above like every day.

TL DR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTJBr9tt8Q&ab_channel=TheBeatlesVEVO
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/Mfhaw/jack-move

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MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, colonoscopy ?. Maybe is a virus?. I don't known where are you from.. Here in Argentina we got free health care for people is not the best, but well, i know in united kingdom they too have free health care, maybe if you live near that countrys can go if your country is expensive in medical care. Try eating food with more fiber in it maybe it would help?

Sorry for the bad english.

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Thanks, your english isn't that bad. :)

Netherlands, it's "free" after your own risk and you still pay a good deal monthly.

I thought at the fysio therapy that looking inside part would be equivalent to a colonscopy, but then i didn't get it (yet) and the stomach doctor again wasn't positive i would find something, it's a nice doctor but clueless in some areas, but then i also don't know if it is part of his expertise, there are "pee" doctors, but can't really say they have doctors for the behind, but someone has to know.

The problems started after moving something very heavy (100-120kg?) a few times, and it got worse after treatment against internal hemmoroids which would make it say it's not a virus especially if it's been going on for about a year, a virus normally would leave by itself eventually.

I tried cruesli, i even received medical fiber back in march but back then it gave me more accidents later on in the day when back then it was only restrained in the mornings so back then i quit, i still have them though, can't get worse (i hope) trying it again.

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Like andre say below, maybe you got an hernia for moving the thing. Maybe something in your intern just (i don't know the world in english) "cut it", or move, detached?, from the position and is making that happen?.

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Yeah shifted i would say, or moved. then you need surgery, i just don't know what would be required like f.e an endoscopy/colonoscopy or something else. When you got 3 doctors saying i don't know, i don't know who does then.

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it will sound strange, but, if you know a veterinary, you could ask him about your problem. Is NOT a joke, sometimes veterinarys because of their work, maybe get different ideas than normal medics. My gf family sometimes do that. And it works.

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I was diagnosed with IBS this year and have had various issues since January. Not saying you have IBS but like Edual suggested above, I would recommend getting a colonoscopy and maybe an endoscopy as well. Of course, depends on your healthcare and whether you doctor is willing to refer you. Colonoscopy would definitely show any possible issues down that end though.

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My bowel movement hasn't been superb in years either, what i forgot to mention is also since november when it began i got more muckus, sometimes also just a small drop with wiping later on in the day, just once a day.
But it could be, but never knew this issue could arise from that, just that with IBS you have problems with the bowel movement?

And i thought an endoscopy and colonoscopy were the same thing, but it's not, what is the difference?

See, i asked the stomach doctor about the possibility for an endoscopy/colonoscopy but i couldn't remember if there was a difference, but he basically said it was the same, and that most likely they wouldn't find anything.
Normally you would go for a second opinion, and while costs aren't an issue, getting a new doctor (or surgery) is usually a matter of waiting months up till a year ever since corona, they never catched up.

My mother had to wait 1 year to get her left eye fixed, and then another for the right eye.

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Apparently a small amount of mucus can be normal, but larger amounts can be a sign of IBS or IBD. IBS causes various digestive issues. Some people with IBS experience diarhea, others experience constipation and others have a mixture of both. There are also various abdominal pains associated with IBS. However my understanding is that they usually diagnose you with IBS when they can't find any other cause for your issues. IBS is a miscommunication between your brain and your gut. Again, not suggesting you have it but you need to get checked in case its something else.

Sorry for the confusion with colonoscopy / endoscopy. Instead of endoscopy I should have said gastroscopy. Endoscopy is the parent term for procedures that involve sticking tubes with a camera into your body. Colonoscopy is when it's inserted into your rectum and they inspect your large colon. Gastroscopy is when they insert a tube down your throat to inspect your stomach. Neither is very pleasant so if you have either done I recommend asking for sedation (if it's available).

I'd definitely recommend seeing a gastroenterologist to discuss your issues and see what they recommended. Even if you have to wait for an appointment, it's worth it.

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Thank you for the clear explanation. yeah i also had a few years always after dinner that i had to cough really loud.
That disappeared and now i have to cough after my bowels are clear. And i have almost really choked a few times in a piece of apple and pizza in the past, only because i always had soda nearby i could clear it with that.

So i always said i always felt sometime is stuck/wrong somewhere between my throat and the end.

There is also an option for a camera in a pill and then you just have to swallow that and you don't really experience pain or hassle but i am afraid that might be costly and not easily tried out.
I will see monday if they gonna check with a camera inside at the fysiotherapy and what comes out of it, else i will press with my general doctor for a gastroenterologist (jeez what a scrablle word). :p

I have also tried to get another general doctor, but there are waiting lists, and even those are closed.

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I've also had reflux issues this year and a general feeling that I can't swallow food properly. Since they couldn't find a physical cause for these issues I was told by a gastroenterologist that it was most likely in my head. So I can only assume it's related to depression / anxiety. Again, I don't want to diagnose you but maybe something to think about.

Seen other people mention Lactose intolerance. That's something I would definitely try. I haven't officially been diagnosed but I feel cutting out lactose has helped my symptoms. You could also try taking some probiotics to see if that helps.

The camera pill option sounds amazing but it was never offered to me, so I assume it's an expensive option. Anyway, good luck with your case. Hope you can figure things out. These kind of issues are really not fun.

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Endoscopy can get used in the stomach, intestine, lungs etc..
If used for the intestine it's called colonoscopy.

Endoscop(e) are the tool name.
Colon are a part of the intestine.

Colonoscopy on yt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHuJ-uHVY5I

I would recommend:
Specialist in internal medicine/gastroenterologist for a general intestine check (Ultrasonography + Colonoscopy if needed) and treatment if it isn't a problem of the last ~10cm and don't need directly a surgery.
Specialist in proctology (+ Specialist in surgery if needed). Most likely one doctor with both specialities, to check if the problem is in the last few cm of the intestine (after area).
A urologist for a check of the prostate gland

I have over 25 years of experience with chronic intestine illness(es).

Mucus, a bit white, could be, a part of, the first protection layer of your intestine and if so, a intestine specialist should see the problem in a colonoscopy.

And you should check if you react on milk sugar (lactose) or milk protein. In germany do this a skin doctor (don't question me why).
Lactose is much more often the problem and many people get it (i got it with ~30 years and none of my multiple doctors -multiple intestine and bowel specialists- not realized it for over 10 years. I found out by myself after many years with unneeded extreme pain and problems [so yes, doctors are sometimes absolute blind]).
I have this too and it is very painful, a lot of air in the intestine and a lot of running to the toilet. If you have it in a lower degree it make maybe only a bit problem that you describe then as "leaking a bit".
Could be a reason too.

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Diverticulitis or some kind of hernia? Maybe you have a lesion is some obscure core muscle or something.
But like the other friends said, it would be way better if you could get a real doctor to see you. If your situation gets too unbearable maybe going to any nearby country (even if you're going to pay for exams and stuff it may be way cheaper than in the US) could help.

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Could be maybe, yeah it definitely feels and sounds obscure.

But what if a stomach doctor, a surgeon and general doctor are shrugging their shoulders?

I am also alone with no option to get to the airport, public transport is also costly and i rather not do, i also have to do a liver biopsy (another issue, my liver values keep shifting for years which they also do nothing about except blood tests).
I live across a hospital, but some things can't be done there, and they have/had plans to shut it down, if that happens i would really struggle if i need regular treatments like chemo or whatever.

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Sorry, I don't know. Have a bump so maybe somebody will read it and help you.

Still, a forum maybe is not the best place. I think it's better to leave it to the medical experts.

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Thanks, i really really tried, but as i said a general doctor, stomach doctor, surgeon and fysiotherapist all shrug their shoulders, and can't give me answers to certain questions (like if it's perhaps also excessive sweat (sometimes) due excessive stress.

And that's just the medical things, all the rest the few people around me (i had) also shrugged their shoulders like i feel sorry for you but we don't know either, i am hoping someone for a change does know something to help me.

I know the chances are slim to none, but maybe there is 1 person that recognizes it with theirselves or someone close to them.
I tried google, but with my germphobia i can't dig in to deeply without reading the potential "dirty" stuff and it usually goes about that, which doesn't go well with my germphobia, but i also don't have that part, i am "lucky" that everything is clean but it's still very annoying, but perhaps also something obscure.

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Maybe you should check if it is related with lactose intolerance. When eating milk you get gas aggregating in colon and it gets in a way of a processes in your colon which result in water not recieved by your organism and you may leak as you say. You should try not eating dairy for a week maybe to check for the difference and obviously consult a doctor about it. It is only a probability, I'm not a doctor, just met with same problem with partial intolerance.

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Thank you, that might be a good tip as i do eat cottage cheese a lot (sometimes 2x packages a day) since i moved, because it's easy to digest.

But you did leak too you say or just had the intolerance?

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Yeah i had a wet stool with gas and much water, which i thought is connected with poisoning or diarrhea. Colonoscopy and gastroscopy showed all is normal, except to much gas with water in colonoscopy. Poop analysis showed too much of undigested food. What was hard is that no doctor suggested lactose intolerance, and i found it myself just controlling my food, because i thought it is a problem with its quality. Took time really.

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So you avoid most/any lactose products now or you getting medicine?

Yeah, i totally understand the part where doctors aren't coming up with ideas with what you can have, and basically say "live with it", it's good you found out yourself, that's also what i am trying to do here. It can make you feel so helpless.

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Yeah i agree, from doctors you except them blooming with ideas like dr house. And i liked milk a lot always, so it was unexpected for me to have such problems. And it only appeared a couple of years after some rather stupid food poisoning in military, so i don't know what really caused it.

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Well we do also put them on a pedestal, but also they treat themselves like gods that they know it all because they studied, but in the end they are also just human.

Like 2 stomach doctors always blamed my shifting liver values on the alcohol i took in the past, while i had many moments i was clean (up till a year) and i said that wasn't it, only now i got a stomach doctor that agreed with me.
It's also not always easy to get a doctor to go with what you think is right or wrong.

I do think i don't have lupus atleast (the running gag on that show).

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Also eating cheese or cottage cheese is normal for me since i have only partial intolerance to lactose, and in cheese you have lactose digested by bacteria. What triggers really is milk itself and things containing it in nonfermented form, like condensed milk or sour cream.

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Well maybe cottage cheese i translated badly, google says soft cheese, i don't really feel it's anything like cheese form or taste like it, it's more like yoghurt thus a milk form (i think).

It's like this: https://www.dekweker.nl/p.53476.html/melkan-verse-volle-kwark-romig-bak-500-gram.html There is a cow on the package and it says made with milk.

Unless you say whenever it's processed it's okay and you really mean pure milk, but that intolerance might also differ per person? Not everyone is the same after all.

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Goat and sheep cheese is always lactose free.
Cheese from cow milk that lay 6 months is lactose free. So hard and stronger cheese in general. Fresh and soft cheese are the most problematic.

Of course cow milk, joghurt, tzaziki, whipped cream, sour cream etc. are problematic.

Lactose is in a lot of sweets and many other products. Partly in much higher amounts as you would expect.

And yes, of course, is the intolerance different from person to person.
Some are very sensitive and have from the lowest amount of lactose problems (i as example can drink only 2 glass of lactose free milk, all over this make problems -lactose free milk still have small amounts of lactose-) and other ones have only problems if they drink/eat a lot of milk products.

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Thank you.l

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In the US it looks like kwark might best be described as kind of a midpoint between yogurt and cottage cheese, but is actually neither. It's basically yet another type of very soft fermented cheese, and the one you linked is 'smooth', while (American) cottage cheese is generally lightly to mildly lumpy with curds/cheese chunks.

As for doctors, my husband has no less than three diseases that have doctors shrugging shoulders. It happens. I like a lot of the suggestions made (colonoscopy, trying milk free for a week, etc).

My husband had to cut out various foods at different times of hia illness. If it's not milk, you might try cutting out other foods.

I sympathize with the pelvic floor exercises... It's hard to see results.

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Thanks for explaining the differences.

Yeah i am taking in any advice, i just got a load of that kwark though which expires after 3 weeks so i can't keep it in the fridge for long. That and bread (beside candy) is basically my diet, so there isn't much else to cut out.

Yeah and if you lift too much weight or ran too much your body will tell you, you will feel it, the pelvic area not so much and even so i think some numbness was created after using that pelvic muscle trainer and the leakage got worse. Before it remained till the mornings, now it can happen the whole day. why i am hesistant on if i should actually continue training or give my body absolute total rest for x time.

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Gastroenterology and surgery are not my field of expertise but I have a general knowledge about them.
Just to clarify a few things I read in the post and comments. The doctor for the back is called proctologist or colorectal surgeon. Rectoscopy or colonoscopy requires preparation. If the doctor did not prescribe a solution for you to drink on the day before the colonoscopy, then the colon won't be clean and they won't be able to see anything.
The cause of fecal incontinence can be multiple, but reading your history it's most likely a grade III or grade IV internal hemorrhoid. The dilated veins prolapse through the anus sphincter and they won't let the anus to close. That can lead to incontinence. I understand that it was treated multiple times already. Maybe the previous method was not working for you and your surgeon might try another method next time (ligation, sclerotherapy, coagulation)

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Thank you for the clarification.

To not mess with my mind and since i am not seeing anything, i like to keep it that it's just fluid and would call it differently (if there is even a word for that), and as i said not see anything "dirty" if i i would have had that, it would have driven me insane with the germphobia.

Indeed i been treated 2 times for internal hemmoroids, the second time he found another big one, but what stumps me is that he was totally suprised the problems got worse, like it wasn't in his study books and knowledge like he didn't even believed me.
From november till the procedure in march, i occasionally had a leakage and sometimes not. After the procedure i leaked every morning.

But i asked him to consult with my stomach doctor whocalled me back but i haven't heard back anymore from that surgeon since, so he basically just dropped me instead of just suggesting himself any other forms of treatments or tests.
I even suggested surgery for any hemmoroid removal to the surgeon but he was not going along with that for some weird reason.

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Sorry, you are right, I didn't realize the clean fluid part that was there.
Shouldn't have surprised the surgeon. The increased abdominal pressure is still there, and with a treated hemorrhoid there is a chance the untreated veins - either hemorrhoid or not yet - can dilate more and get worse. I think you did well to suggest additional therapy for hemorrhoids. It is possible the gastroenterologist and surgeon will consult and call you back or you should bring all the documentation from the surgery to your next appointment at the gastroenterologist and ask for other ways of treatment. Maybe the surgeon doesn't have access to other treatments and you will be sent into a colorectal centrum but I'm only just guessing.
Rereading the symptoms lead me to believe that this can be mucinous rectal discharge. The mucus that is coating the walls of the colon (similarly to salive in the mouth) for protection and lubrication can appear on the underwear in case of an incontinency. Since you mentioned it was clean, did not contain any stool, blood, pus and the histroy of the recurring prolapsing internal hemorrhoids that is a likely cause of the problem. I might be wrong but I think a few years back I read that you are taking metformin. Since people with diabetes have higher chances for fungal infections, you should check this area for any signs or superficial fungal infections on a regular basis (slowly growing red, itchy, scaling plaques) and use desinfectant spray daily before that needs additional treatment.
Hope you can see a specialist soon and get some help with your problem.

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It's okay, and sorry i just want to keep it in my head that way also that it's clean because of the germphobia you know it's the only way i can keep going on, of all the things one can have with germphobia, a broken toe, hernia etc, i get this.

Currently no specalist is still on that case, the surgeon performed a second procedure against the hemmoroids (rubber band) i told him even with the way i go to the toilet it might even be better to put me under narcosis and just cut anything off.
Especalliy now i want to be as empty as possible so i sit for about 30+ minutes there which probably isn't a very good thing to do for potential hemmoroids either but to just avoid leakage later on the day.
Atleast that was how it worked up until a few weeks ago.

The surgeon would call me for a check up after the second one, but i called him up earlier because i felt it wasn't getting better and i wanted to possibly speed things up for possible future tests, with all the long waiting lists we already have.
He just basically shrugged i don't know what else to do, so i told him perhaps he could consult with the stomach doctor and they did, in which the stomach doctor called me to say they both don't know, and i never heared from the surgeon again.
We here call it a stomach/liver/colon doctor, i don't know if it's exactly the same as an gastroenterologist but he also just basically says fysio therapy or live with it, nothing about further possible tests.

Correct (you sure got a good memory) i was given metformin, until a year ago they changed it to glicazide (and now want to remove that for no apparent reason).
After any toilet use i am using throw away cleaning towels, and i am taking showers, let's just say i never (want to) have dirty underwear beside the occasional clear leaking fluid part.
I been examined by a general doctor twice, including the prostate (my dad had prostate cancer) and i imagine if it was anything fungal they would have seen that and said so.

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That sucks, hope you get better.

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Thank you.

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as an american.
whats a doctor???

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Seems like the obvious next step would be a scope. Not sure how none of the doctors recommended that.

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Thank you.

Yeah i am not sure about that either.

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First of all, I am not a doctor but a passing alien, so please do not rely on me.

MRI is good for looking at the skeleton, but it is necessary to adjust the settings according to the internal organs, and the waiting time in the same position is long and the cost is often a little high. I get the impression that this is the reason for the exchange.

If you feel that “30 minutes of walking” is the best you have ever done, it is likely that those problems started with lower body muscle problems.

When you consult with your urologist, if he/she does the examination first and finds nothing abnormal and it is not serious, he/she is likely to recommend pelvic floor muscle exercises.

 It is not clear if the rationale for being asked to quit diabetes medications is based on medical evidence or financial issues.
 It is possible that the diabetes medications tend to cause frequent urination and that this was such advice.
Again, this is basically remedied by increasing exercise and building muscle mass.
 Usually, after informing the urologist of your diabetes and incontinence, if the medications are not incompatible, he or she will consult with you about taking medications to reduce bladder contractions or recommend exercise.
 There is a slight possibility that perhaps information about your various medical conditions is not being shared among other doctors or is difficult to say and not understood.
 If time is not a problem after consulting with the doctor, you should increase your exercise and see how you feel again for about two weeks.
 And if the signs are better than they were two weeks ago, it's probably a distant sign that you've lost some basic fitness.
If not, I would suspect a drug compatibility. Maybe this is one of those situations where you need some time to determine the cause of things.

Well, we may be in an age when AI will do most of the human work and AI will earn the salaries.
There is no need for humans who are not in good shape to rush. May you return to a state where you can enjoy various things in better physical condition.🤗🏥🤕💉💊 🤖<Do you want me to be sick instead?

Well, I'm not a doctor so definitely don't believe these things, I was told by E.T.

That I have this medical condition!
If you tell your doctor that you have a medical condition, he will give you a completely different prescription.🛸💊

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Thank you.

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I am not a doctor and you probably should keep relying on those for medical expertise.
But speaking from personal experience and knowing the stories of others who really just "cleaned" up their lifes aka regular light exercises and changed their diet to be much less based on processed foods with the results that a lot of their "issues" just went poof away.
So that might be something to consider.
Hope you get to figure it out.

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Thank you.

I know as a gamer and someone that sits a lot i should exercise and even eat better, and living on a diet of bread and cottage cheese (or whatever it is called in english) is not the most healthy way, but i can't gather the energy to cook (for myself) but i do try take my vitamins with an a-z tablet and atleast some fruit.

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I guess it is not the worst diet in the world.
I have discovered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVoOz0_zf-Q&t=24s this one recently and it only takes 15 minutes to make.
Same as you I dont have the motivation to cook these dishes that take 1 hour+ to make.

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Thank you, will watch that. I got a 230 euro airfryer with 2 baskets, i could technically toss in some meat and something else in the other, press a button and be done or put something in an oven but even that feels like "too much work" right now the cleaning afterwards.

We had these packages which contained a sauce, pasta or rice etc and you basically just had to add some vegetables/meat a bit on the far salty side but it made me eat vegetables, they were also quick to make but a package used to be like 2 euro and now 4 euro something and then you don't even have all the side products yet, it became expensive.
Same for a package of cookies 3,50 or peanut butter 6 euro (not to mention the smaller packages) but i guess that's how it is now.

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I've consulted my wife, who is a medical doctor, about your issue, and I'll let you know what she says. Though she was asking for your age.

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So my wife said that it sounds like a fistula, which is a post-surgery complication. She requested a more detailed timeline of your issues and surgery to get a better picture and recommend necessary tests.

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Thank you, i am 44.

November 2023 My issues began after i lifted my washing machine/dryer several times and several days, it was also a moment i quit alcohol (never smoked).

March 2024 I had my first procedure taken but it wasn't real surgery as in been put under narcosis, the surgeon did a rubber band procedue and then the leakage got worse both in amount and days (before i had dry days) a few months later i had another rubber band procedure done as the surgeon found 1 more big hemmoroid, but that procedure didn't make it worse or better and he didn't invite me back again to look.
I never have any real surgery done under narcosis except for my eyes over 10 years ago.

June/July 2024 I bought that device, the clamp to put between my legs to train the pelvis area, since then the problems also got worse, while before the issues only restricted itself to the mornings, but ever since that device it also affects me later during the day on a regular basis, but i also started to leak after peeing (even cleaning it with some toilet paper) and even some numbness in the pelvis area.

So i got 2 moments that made things worse, and even the surgeon was absolutely surprised that it got worse and not better, and i am also surprised the clamp device made it worse after that.

My diet currently consists mostly out of bread and cottage cheese (if that's the proper english word) as i can't gather enough energy to cook a decent meal for myself, also i don't have a car so i have to carry my groceries (usually 15-20kg) on a bike and bike 2km.
I don't know if the consistent (heavy) lifting is hurting things and i should just really take a few weeks (bed)rest or exercise would actually be benefitial. But if something has shifted in the pelvis area i don't think anything there could make a difference.
I do take a-z vitamins, and also there is a continueing major stress factor in my life, and i can't get rid of those issues.

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Thanks for the info. Based on how it started because of lifting a heavy load, it could be a rectal prolapse. There are stages to a prolapse, and you might have been on an early stage. Did you ever feel like something was coming out, even when nothing was? The rubber band surgery may have exacerbated the condition. Hopefully physiotherapy will help correct this if it really is the issue. Nerve damage as a complication of the surgery could be the cause of the worsening as well. That will heal over time (typically over 2-3 months).

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Thank you for replying back.

No i never had that feeling, on the contrary most of the time i don't even feel the leakage part until i get out of my seat, and if it's mild (a drop) i don't notice it unless i look in my underwear.

Things became numb and got even more worse when i tried the pelvic muscle trainer, i am guessing that i overtrained myself, and i think that was 6-8 weeks ago? So actually i am "happy" to see that timeline of 2-3 months then perhaps it can also still heal that part, but i just don't know what's best now, continue exercize (and if so what kind?) or just try to give it as much rest as possible for the time being?
Since there is a numbness and a part that already doesn't let you easily know when you gone too far unlike f.e other parts of your party where you get a clear muscle pain.

I am fearing a later stage, and physiotherapy isn't going to help and i need actual surgery, but what doctor, what test can and should i ask for there, to prove that?

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Thank you, i really appreciate it and will watch it.

Unfortunately finding a right doctor is really hard as there is a big shortage, even to begin with a good general doctor, i tried signing myself in with a new practice but they all got waiting lists, and those are even closed.
And i am very willing to take any test and as i said i tried the general doctor and stomach doctor both about the options for a pelvis MRI but they are clueless on it, and i asked my general doctor just let me try any test but they don't know.
Except fysio therapy (or "living with it") tommorow is my second appointment but i don't feel that's the solution, i want some scan taken so they can see if things haven't shifted or whatever, perform surgery on it, and pray that it's just over.

If i don't find a solution with the fysiotherapist i gonna try what BauerBoy24 suggested and just press on a gastroenterologist.

And yes you can also reverse diabetes type 2 through proper eating and exercise, but it takes a real commitment there, where basically you can't even eat candy, potato chips, or anything "nice" anymore, and i already find things "boring" without alcohol, because my liver values keep shifting for years and i never been given a pill or treatment for it. but an echo/mri atleast showed that the liver would be okay, but i was adviced for a biposy still.

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Not a doctor but I would suggest you do go on walks daily, about 10k steps at least and at least 1 hour of more intense exercise every week. This is just a theory but you probably damaged the muscles during some intense training and then you take long periods of time sitting down, which lowered their strength. Lifting a lot of weight can cause issues down there. I would also recommend drinking some water, apple cider vinegar, lemon and cayenne pepper mix for detox, and eating a banana every 2 days or so. You got some other tips that I'd recommend as well like eating less cheese, and doing lower body exercises to strengthen the muscles.

Reason why your doctors probably can't figure it out is because there's a lot of reasons why it can happen and they always go for the easiest options first, like giving you some ibuprofen and telling you to try that first, then the next time they're like lets do a blood test, then this. They're just filling in data into the system until they eventually get lucky and hit your condition. Most doctors aren't very good actually, and they're just kinda guessing around. You need someone whos dealt with your particular case enough to know ahead "yep thats the one" but finding that doctor is like 1 in millions of doctors. Over the years I've stopped trusting doctors, as they're more interested in getting me signed up for a second and third appointment than fixing my condition.

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Thank you.

That is a major struggle point, if i should exercize more or actually give my body total rest, and i don't have a car (or know anyone) when i do groceries it's 2km biking (1 way) and i usually have 15-20kg with me to carry which i would call an intense workout, but perhaps that's where i keep straining myself too much maybe, for the rest yeah i basically do sit all day.
And as to lower body exercises i thought i was trying to do that with the clamp thing, but that only made things worse and why i worry more about over exercizing.

Oh tell me about it, I been going to a stomach doctor for 3 years (3 different doctors) due shifting liver values, every 3 months they want my blood tested but they never said let's try a pill or this or that, it's only the third doctor that actually suggested an MRI and biopsy.

And i tried a different general doctor practice, but there are waiting lists and even those are closed.

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Really weird to write about that stuff on a gaming site, a simple google search gives a lot of hints for the cause already. And as to your other "issues" welcome to adulthood ? Maybe take care of things instead of just complaining about them.

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No they don't give any hints, and i am not complaing, just seeking an answer from just anyway after doctors even shrug their shoulders.

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"Really weird to write about that stuff on a gaming site, a simple google search gives a lot of hints for the cause already.
And as to your other "issues" welcome to adulthood ? Maybe take care of things instead of just complaining about them."

This is the first level-headed and honest reply in this whole fiasco of a thread.
The poster needs to stop using the threads here as their dear diary. None of us are medical professionals and none of us can be their surrogate therapists either. It is honestly a new low even for them.

This part of their thread tells you all you need to know about them:
"My diabates nurse emailed me if i shouldn't just quit my diabetes medicine when i haven't tested my blood for six months"

"And then i was told a while ago by a person that helped me but quit 3 weeks ago without even a goodbye note or give me a replacement, i should never worry about losing my wellfare and now they suddenly started coming after me again after 4 years"

6 months
4 years
How long does it take for someone to start taking charge of their own life instead of blaming others and complaining online? It is honestly a new low even for them.

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See different doctors until you get proper consultation, diagnosis and suggestion for remedies. I know it's tiring and you may think it's a waste of time. It is highly likely you will get the same answer but you may find a doctor that actually cares and understands the situation you are in.

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Thank you, i would definitely like to, but with a general doctor there are even waiting lists, and those are closed.

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I don't know how it works in the Netherlands, I'm in Belgium. But I'm guessing it would be similar.

Here you first go to your "huisarts" and they can refer you to a bigger clinic/hospital if necessary. Here also there are long waiting lists (6-9 months at least) to see a specialist in a bigger hospital. But you can also go to a smaller praktijk where the doctors with the same expertise work together. There are also waiting lists for these but usually shorter (and if I get lucky, I may even find an appointment for next week). Did you already try looking for these?

You can also look for other, smaller hospitals around your city, one that is accessible by train if you don't drive.

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It's the same, and with general doctor we also call them huisarts, but they got waiting lists and i tried 1 other praktijk and all i read is they had a waiting list which was closed so basically leaving me with empty hands, i can't even join that waiting list.

Right now i can't handle a train ride, financially, phsiycally and mentally, i already have to get a liver biopsy done too (for shifting liver values) it's not an urgency and up to me. In the past i always could do anything in my own hospital, but suppose one day i had to get chemo done and you can't get it in this hospital i have to travel too, but just right now i can't handle it, then again the whole situation with that behind is also driving me crazy, which leads to stress, which leads to worse things phsiycally, it's also a circle, one has to get out of (if that's still possible).

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I understand. Please reach out to the institutions that can help you and don't accept a mentality like "welp, I guess this is how I live now". You know you will get out of this place one day. Until then, be strong! 💪

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Thank you, will try. 💪

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Maybe you should try Kegel exercises to solve the problem, if you haven't tried it?

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Yes i thought about it, and no i am kinda afraid to try anything right now, as with the thing i bought (a pelvic muscle trainer) things even somehow got worse, more moments being wet later in the day, and even some numbness there (which might suggest overtrained but it's been like this 6-8? weeks now if it had to heal you would think it would have by now?).
I don't know if i continue to exercise now (and the right sort) or complete rest is better of the two.

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To be honest, it is extremely difficult for me to advise anything because of the language barrier. I honestly still haven't fully understood what gender you are, but it seemed to me that you were female. Again, if I made a mistake, please don't scold me too much, I rarely write in English and mostly on this forum.

When it comes to medical terms and more complex English, my level is clearly not enough.

If I understood correctly, the problem is primarily with strange liquid discharge.

I heard something similar from the stories of one woman, but she was not talking about colorless discharge, but specifically about the fact that she began to have urinary incontinence with age.
Remembering from memory what she said, it can be roughly summarized that she was approaching menopause in age and that because of this, her natural secretion of estrogen decreased and her internal organs became less elastic.
It seems she was choosing 1 of 2 types of treatment:
1) With surgical intervention, they had to insert something there to support her organs.
2) Hormonal. There was also a branching when it was necessary to either sit on pills for life and it seems there was an option to insert an IUD with hormones and change it at some period. But this IUD also seemed not to be inserted for everyone and there also had to be tests to make sure that it could help you.

I hope that online translators were able to translate everything correctly and the experience that I heard will be useful.

Good luck with the treatment. This is really an extremely expensive and difficult task.

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I am male.

Thank you though for trying to think with me, still appreciated.

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Your symptoms remind me that of Infectious Coilitis, perhaps Pseudomembranous. If you had imaging tests and they came out clean, I would suggest doing a culture. Genuinely hope that you find a solution, best wishes.

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Thank you, no tests have been done, and none are given at request. Don't know what it entails but i will certainly google it.

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I have an advice that might be uncomfortable but really cheap and simple, to support a natural healing process that hopefully kicks in:
Some fasting could help very much, giving a good break to the digestive system. In our evolution it was quite a normal thing that the body is well equipped to cope with. I'm not a specialist of that though, and there are many ways to fast, for some days totally not eating anything or eating only little or eating nothing for x days and then eating again for y days and repeat, there are different ways. But it's easy to try and see how it influences your problem, and it's cheap.

Be prepared to feel a bit weak for some time, so choose a good time to try it, and try to be ok with feeling hungry. People cope differently with that experience but I think it's healthy for the body and the mind.

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But i am already skinny and it took me months to get back to my old weight because after the move i didn't had a scale and didn't realize i lost a bunch.

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Sorry to hear you're going through this. Take care of yourself and stay strong!

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Thank you, appreciate it.

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