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I don't trust RT as it is Putin's tool to use the media to manipulate the world.
Yes, RT gets it's daily walking orders from the Kremlin.
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What do you think media is if not a tool to manipulate popular opinion. Every single news oulet is a bussiness and has someone behind with an agenda.
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RT is the russian CNN
When you want to see what is doing bad USA go to RT/Sputnik
When you wan to see what is doing bad Russia go to CNN/FOX/NBC
Just left behind any believe of something and read on both sides
Just a little edit: read on both sides trust no one
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that's true, I add "Al Jazeera" to see what both US & Russia are doing wrong !:)
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Al Jazeera has really good news reports as long as it's not about the Arabic Peninsula or whatever.
But yeah, read everyone, trust no one.
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so because RT is used as a source then other sources are wrong too?
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It is like trusting FOX news to provide fair and balanced information without political spin.
The news will always be presented in a way that reinforces the Kremlin's perspective of the world.
It sucks that we have to 'read between the lines' when it comes to getting our news without any kind of spin.
Simply put, RT will have a Kremlin based spin on the information provided.
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Yeah, because there are absolutely no terror attacks in countries that are not in west-Europe...
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Basically all over the news here... what a shitty day - Ankara, Zurich, Berlin...
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hab's grad auf ner Nachrichtenapp gesehen. inkl. Foto. Echt gruselig. -_-
war ja klar dass so ein scheiß passiert. (mindestens 50 Verletzte?!)
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http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Politik/d/9589564/lkw-rast-in-weihnachtsmarkt---ein-verdaechtiger-nach-anschlag-festgenommen.html jetzt auch mit video, die gehen ja schon sehr von einem anschlag aus
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Wirklich traurig, dass man mittlerweile mit so einer Angst unterwegs sein muss.
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es hätte mich schon sehr gewundert, wenn dieses Jahr nichts dergleichen passiert wäre. tut mir echt leid für die familien, gibt nichts schlimmeres, und das gerade auf 'nem weihnachtsmarkt.
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echt Traurig alles , ich denk Sylvester wird auchnochwas passieren ,nirgendswo ist man mehr sicher heutzutage(wenn es wirklich auch ein Anschlag war - wird der 3e Weltkrieg auch nicht mehr weit weg sein)
RIP den Opfern.
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Ich war zum Zeitpunkt etwa 15min Fußweg weit entfernt, hab es nur mitbekommen weil ein Klassenkamerad es gesagt hat.
Keine Sirenen oder so zu hören gewesen den ganzen Tag, obwohl man die dort sehr oft hört. Auf dem nach hause weg durch halb Berlin hab ich nicht einen Polizisten gesehen geschweige denn ein Polizei-Auto.
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Nah, he probably was Jewish or a Jehova's Witness and he was born in Germany.
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Scientologist is also an option... But then what difference does it make?
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It might not have been a good idea to allow to many Mormons to come into the state with the best welfare system and monetary power in Europe to begin with, as is Mormonism wasn't dangerous enough (like every other religion, but damn, that one takes the cake).
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I wish he would be then we could nuke the entire state of utah and the few survivors we could put on a watch list and discriminate them everytime we have the chance, because you know, a mormon did something so they must all be guilty :-)
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Let's forget the book says to do some not-so-good deeds with other religions, and not to mention that I have NEVER defended any other religion, but you have to admit, it's hypocritical how nobody even dares saying anything against Islam.
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I don't know where you are from but in my country everybody is saying stuff against islam constantly. Now as an atheist i find all religions ridiculous, but look up all terrorists through history and tell me their ideology got the same treatment when they blew up stuff or killed ppl.
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There's a difference between doing something and happening to be of a certain religion; and doing something because of a certain religion. Islam has a tendency to cause the later.
But whatevs, let's sit back, relax, and wait for them to release the ethnicity and name of this guy.
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Truck is registered in Poland, on route from Italy. Driver was supposed to unload cargo in Berlin tomorrow in the morning.
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Oh dear child.
At least this is not 9gag/4chan/reddit/liveleak, is the less toxic forum/site i had seen
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Back when I joined the site, staff still allowed open bigotry, personal attacks, and harassment.
Now they'll actually suspend a user if they get out of hand [though as far as I'm aware, there's no real severity of punishment for repeated infractions]. So perhaps in time, we'll see them taking a more reliable approach against hate speech.
Then again, even I wouldn't push for rules so strict that they'd block out G7FR's absolutely batty comments above, as they not only don't directly attack anything (in a matter that demeans or insults individuals, rather than simply expresses a dubious opinion about a general concept), but they're also utterly nonsensical (and thus can't remotely be taken seriously).
If those are the comments troubling you, I honestly sympathize, but there's a bare minimum we have to tolerate in order to benefit from concepts of free speech ourselves.
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So, this site is civil 90% of the time. Then something political gets posted, the forums burn with the embers of a thousand bitter, dying suns for a few days, and then everyone moves on and tries to remember how people got on their blacklists/whitelists over the next few weeks until something happens and then things flame up again.
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Yeah, 9 dead and 50 injured, if I'm right. Thing is, we don't know who did this. Most people think it was probably done by an extremist, but nobody really knows. Only speculations can be heard so far.
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I hoped (how fucked up is it to use the word "hope" in this situation) that it was just an accident - but what i wondered is: if it wasn't a planned attack, why would the truck driver flee?
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True that. Usually the extremists do suicide attacks, trying to kill as many people as they can.
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I agree. Accidents are easier to swallow than terrorist attacks. I don't know, I think if a family member of mine died horribly, it would be much easier on my soul if it was due to an accident than "I want these random people to die".
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If it eats cheese, has a pointy nose and two big front teeth it's a ........ Whale !!!
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I understand what you mean, but what if it was someone on drugs or something? Many mass killings have happened in the past that were not done by extremists. I'm not supporting them (obviously), but I'm just saying that we should wait till we find out who did it.
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Update 21:41: The alleged driver of the truck was arrested
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After Nice I thought they'd get this whole "blocking off entry" thing organised... :/
Holes big enough for trucks at big "Christian" events...
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Emergency exits became important after 2010 Love Parade Tragedy
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I'm not saying build a wall, just barriers heavy enough to stop a truck from getting in at high speed. A nice zig-zag of concrete blocks with room enough for hundreds of people to move freely.
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It's how they have done it at the Christmas market in my nearest city - a pedestrianised area surrounded by merry festive steel-reinforced concrete tank traps...
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You're right ... I didn't say that the decide wisely here :-/
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hm, my sister read my message on WhatsApp, but hasn't replied ... not gonna get worried yet :/ (she happens to live like 20 mins from there)
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FUCK ... first thing that came to my mind what it happened in France was that this abominable coward method will inspire more
of the same. Unsurprisingly it does - damn easy to access and to plow through wherever masses stick around outside ...
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Yes, in nice it was obvious that was terrorist attack.
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It doesn't look like terrorist attack, at first look.
And it might be just coincidence - Ankara, Zurich, Berlin. And may be not, because 3 time in a row in one day. But like I said - this one doesn't look intentionally.
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What would point towards that possibility, is that it stopped after 50m into the market if i got that
right (aut news site) - that, or the truck had a failure that brought it to halt quickly, either way i wouldn't
be certain, but the driver fled from the scene. Also first it was 1 dead and several wounded, quickly it
changed to 9 dead and 50 wounded ...
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I have seen many drivers who fled crime scene, that is not a point. It can be some unexpirinced driver who just scare away, or he asleep at the wheel, or it's just silly terrorist what have been fail. Only named person of this driver will give us answer. But any thing will not bring back this nine souls back.(
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Co-passenger turned out to be the polish owner (dead doesn't say how) ... most probably killed and his truck stolen.
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/810977458342207488
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well, well.
it's a little early to really say for sure and start pointing fingers
but
rolling a truck over a christmas market evidently seems like an obvious message from the religion of peace we all know and love.
i'm sorry for the people who got injured and especially sorry for those who will have to face christmas with one person less around the christmas tree. :(
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You say it like it was answer on gun attack in Zurich.
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We are headed towards the point where this won't even have any news value.
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no wonder since it would be the first terrorist attack in germany afaik.
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If europe stay on sucide rounte such barbaric acts of terror will become part of our life.
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well i don't recall any major incidents with any kind of 'success' worth mentioning but maybe i just can't remember off the top of my head right now. in that case i blame the rum i enjoyed earlier.
on the other hand i'm no big news addict. since the news are always the same: people killing each other for no good reason. that happens every day and you can even tell without watching the news.
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This has been very underreported compared to the previous events.
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Well, the Facebook safety feature calls it "The Attack in Berlin"
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Facebook won't f*ing work for me - is there a feature to mark "I'm safe" or something like that? I got half an update on my phone about a friend and something to do with this, but our beautiful German language always puts the verb at the end of a sentence
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Acording to polish media (22:00 19.12.2016 ) which interview owner of that truck company , driver was calling him aroudn 16 :00 that he has some problems in no-go zone with some muslims and them the call was ended. Polziei found a body and it may be orginal driver.
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I checked 4 polish sources. Not a single word about muslims, also three of them (all with different owners) confirm that the driver wasn't speaking with anyone in Poland since about 12:00.
Also there is a lot of anti-muslim media in Poland - and they lie very often just to prove their point - especially all government owned media and media owned by "PMPG Polskie Media SA". It is harder to find article in which they told the truth than the one in which they lied.
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At first it was acording to tvp info . At second, yes there is a lot of lyingmedia in poland, to bad they are on left side of view and mostly promote muslism as 100 % safe people. Did you forget that german comapaneis own 75 % of polish companies?
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Which media?
According to TVN24 - which interviewed the owner of the company, he last spoke with the driver at about noon. He was already at his destination, but he couldn't unload until 8 a.m. tomorrow. Driver's wife tried to call him around 16:00, but he didn't answer his phone.
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Source in polish: http://www.tvn24.pl/wiadomosci-ze-swiata,2/ciezarowka-wjechala-w-jarmark-relacja-wlasciciela-firmy-transportowej,701084.html
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My heart goes out to the victims and family of this terrorist attack.
The use of a truck as a weapon to run over people has already been used as a tactic by Islamic terrorists in Israel and in Nice, France.
Merkel said: “Wir schaffen das”. I wonder how long she will say that before coming to the conclusion that she really has to ad a word to the end of that phrase: "nicht".
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Yeah ... afraid that ship has sailed - the terrorist sleeper cells among the ongoing flood of uncontrolled migration have probably already used the opportunity and are settled. Merkel and those thumb twiddling twats in the European council ... just irresponsible.
Merkel quotes (not taken out of context).:
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It actually amazes me a politician might have a slight chance of being able to accept that "welp, I fucked up."
But then again, what took her to admit such was the absolute foundation of the suicide of advanced western society as we know it, so not such a great accomplishment after all on her part.
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"if i could". yeah right, like if the whole eu has the autonomy to decide by itself and for itself. not gonna take for good anything of what this traitor says. besides she will run for the next election in 2017, her wards might just be an attempt to soften the idea that a part of her country has made on her rather than an admission of guilt.
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For one, don't call them IS. No need to give them legitimacy.
Second of all, they will always claim the attack. It adds to the resume and that's why most attacks are "lone wolf" attacks. It's always encouraged by them to just attack and not ask for their approval.
But I get you. It's probably them. Not ISIS, but some lone wolf.
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It is not a legitimation, its calling things by their names. or with with one of the many in this case. salafism, wahabism... or IS.
yeah well true, it happened for the IS to claim responsibility of the attack even if the attacker has not sworn loyalty to them. still unknown if this is the case or he has a dark past. interrogation will tell.
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