New Graphics Card - RX580/RX590/GTX1070 - considering prices

I'd never again get a Zotac. I had a 1050Ti mini and fan was locked to a certain value, I think 40%, no chance to get a silent card. Sent it back.

I just changed my card from GTX 970 to Vega 56.

Right now RX Vega 56 is at the same price as RTX 2060 but it have 8GB Vram and both cards are -/+5% FPS in games compered to each other.

I think youtube test and benchmark sites would help you to decide what you need.

RX 590 is 10-15% more FPS than RX 580.
GTX 1070 is 35-40% more FPS than RX 580.

It all depends how much you earn and how much is 90 euro vs 40% more FPS worth for you.

Can consider GTX 1660ti

Second-hand goods of mining graphics board which can be remodeled to RX 580 was sold in large quantities last month.(50€)
Recently, 'GTX 1660 Ti' was also sold ....(160€ ?)
There are places to think about variously,
However, if there is no reason to hurry, you will be able to purchase those with improved performance if you wait six months.

6 GB is enough.

Budget-wise, the 580 and 1070 are quite different. What's your actual budget?

würde statt der 1070 direkt die 1660ti nehmen. rx580 und 1160ti haben zurzeit das beste preis/leistungsverhältnis. was auch ab und zu angeboten wird is die vega 56 für 265€ bei mindfactory ... is stock nicht kosteneffizient un is halt n blower aber wenn sie undervoltet wird gehts sogar vom stromverbrauch.
*habs mim netzteil erst jetzt gelesen warum die vega doch keine option für dich ist

The RTX2060 is probably the best long term investment for a mid-range card right now.
(edit: typo)

I've bought Sapphire RX 580 Pulse in December.
It is not 1440p/60Hz card but It can be, but for how long I cant tell you. Thanks to FreeSync I'm playing at 1080p/75Hz The Division and Shadow Warrior 2. I would guess it can pull it higher, but that are my monitor specs. I'm expecting that I will be able to play for next 4-5 years at current specs with medium to high presets easy.

From what I've read during my PC build period, GTX 1070 is surly 1440p/60Hz card, and it should hold up for next 4-5 years with excellent presets. As for concrete model (Zotec Mini) really cant tell you anything.

This is a small comparison:

https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2298?vs=2147

and my question is where did you find those prices?

If you're thinking of doing VR in the -near- future then you probably want to buy the best card you can afford. But you may also have to consider a PSU upgrade as well as depending on the 550w you have you may not have all of the required PCIE connectors you need to power it. If its a semi-modern power supply (built within the last 5-6 years from a respected brand, then you should have the 1x 8pin + 1x 6pin, or the 2x 6 pin connectors you'd probably need. (Although in some cases i believe 2x8 may be needed.) It wouldnt hurt to figure out which connectors you have available before you buy to avoid any unexpected complications.

Additionally, listing the big games you like to play, and your framerate target might also help everyone to generalize what class of card you'd want to think about. Most modern high end cards can generally do 60fps at 1080p with high graphical settings. If thats your target them you're probably good no matter what you go with in that list. I cant speak to the VR experience, but generally if you are even considering VR then you want to go as high end as you can afford. Things may have changed a bit since then, but a couple years back you absolutely didnt want to skimp at all on performance if you wanted to do VR or you'd end up with something that was unplayable due to headaches from low framerates.

You can get a -very- generalized overview of a card's performance by checking how they compare to eachother here: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html I wouldnt use that site as the absolute authority on performance as one calculated number is pretty abstract and does not tell you how it performs in your favorite games, but if you use it simply for the purposes of comparing the classes of videocards with eachother in terms of performance then it can be useful.

Finally, I would probably avoid the "smaller" cards as often they have much worse cooling solutions and if you fully tax them, they can get very hot. (Less room to dissipate heat, and less fans to blow it away.) If you start to reach their thermal maximum they will throttle themselves which will result in lower performance, stuttering, and other anomalies and just give you an overall bad experience. If you live in cold climates, or have exceptionally good case cooling however this may be less of a problem, but still something to consider.

EDIT: Listing your CPU/Other hardware specs might also help people offer suggestions as it -is- possible to buy a graphics card that cant reach its maximum performance if your CPU cant keep up or if you're bottlenecked in other areas.

What about a used goods? In my country GTX 1070 goes for 220€ cheapest and at 250€ you can get good cards like Asus Strix and such. 1070Ti which I bought 2 months ago cost me 350€ but they also went for 300€ with proper coolers.

I'm also in dire need of a new PC, but I'm trying to stall till Navi launches. If that doesn't happen before June, I'll probably get a GTX 1660.

I cant understand why you cant decide. I would go for an rx 580 but only because that suits my budget better. The 580 is the slower here and the fastest is the 1070. As long as you dont mind paying the 1070's price go for it as its the fastest for sure otherwise go for the rx 580. The 30 euros difference is too much in my opinion to get the 590 which is a slight improvement of the 580.
Those cards dont have the same price range so you have to start thinking what might be the best choice.

I was going to recommend RX 590 due to your budget considerations after reading the comments and benchmark reviews. However, reading about your VR needs, as a consumer I feel 1070 fits your needs better. Better graphical and efficient performance also that 8GB VRAM which should perform better with the VR headset. Cheers~

@Eiion: Since you're german as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNBqldofA-Y

what about gtx 1660?

1080p -> I'd go for the 590 without thinking but it's not enough for 1440p, so... 1070 is your only choice but... I don't know, if you don't need a new gpu right now I'd wait for the next gen

wait, what is zotac mini, does it mean mini 1070 graphic card?

better buy a GTX 1660 Ti or a Vega 56

I own an rx 580 right now, I got it for 150$ and it rocks on my shitty resolution. But I would suggest you getting 1070 if you want to use for a couple of years, it's not much difference between 590 and 1070 but I imagine 1070 will perform better on your resolution and in future games. My advice is, only buy amd when it's at least 50 percent cheaper than its counterpart at nvidia, because that's what amd does best, buget gaming.

I think OP you're putting too much importance on VRAM. As it has been shown over here 6GB is enough for todays games.

And over here you can see that the freshly released GTX1660ti is on par with the GTX1070. In my country the GTX1070 is more expensive so it's a no brainer for me. Also keep in my mind the GTX1660ti can benefit even more from new driver release as it was tested with early drivers. With Nvidia it's often the case that you get better perf after a few drivers release.

For 1440p i personally would only consider 1660ti, Vega56 or RTX2060. RX580 if i had to play on 1080p and not planning to upgrade. Just my 2cents.

if you want a card for price/power then i would go with the rx580 and i dont know if its till active but there was a amd game bundle where you could chose to games that you get with the card i picked resident evil 2 remake and the divison 2 so that means for both game -30 per game from the price it has 8gb vram and amd supports dx12 better than nvidia saw sow benchmarks and amd had 20 fps more when they changed from dx11 to dx 12

i think is better you wait soon nvidia release new card they are same RTX but without raytracing\dlss features so is an RTX performance but at less price .

also is you sure you want buy a new gpu? try also beta of geforce now if u have high speed internet is cloud services streaming make u can play max gfx without hardwares (and for now is free.) but this is only for single player games,if u want play multiplayers or competitive vs other players ok you need hardware.

edit:
Can happen nvidia release new rtx without rtx and same performance but less price
or
can happen nvidia release new rtx without rtx and + performance at same price
But both would be better than buy rtx now , because raytracing and dlss is nothin so much special that is worth the price it's just marketing features.