Gambling?
Oh, cool, I was discussing with Lilly about this bundle before.
I'll post my draws here (2 x 20 bundle copies):
Rebel Galaxy Outlaw
Sparklite
Those Who Remain
12 is Better Than 6
Raji: An Ancient Epic
Hammerwatch Anniversary Edition
Figment 2: Creed Valley
Pumped BMX Pro
Don't Knock Twice
As Far As The Eye
The Indie Mixtape
Outshine
I am Bread
Agatha Christie - Hercule Poirot: The First Cases
Interrogation: You will be deceived
Patrician III
The Shapeshifting Detective
Unity of Command: Stalingrad Campaign
Overloop
I am not a Monster: First Contact
Snow Moto Racing Freedom
Snow Plowing Simulator
Aqua Moto Racing Utopia
Nanotale - Typing Chronicles
Fantasy Wars
Planetiles
Recursive Ruin
Beat Cop
Chicken Invaders 2
Dead Age
HYPERVIOLENT
King's Bounty: Warriors of the North - Valhalla Edition
Guts and Glory
The Hive
How to Say Goodbye
Soul Axiom Rebooted
Imperial Glory
Call of Juarez
The Wanderer: Frankenstein’s Creature
Sands of Aura
Also, the purchase gave right to a "Lunar Sale Red Envelope" BONUS, which in my case was a copy of King's Bounty: Warriors of the North - Valhalla Edition.
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Most of those games are certainly good quality, but have been bundled often, so I were only missing 5 out of 40. Also most of the remaining ones, being so common, have a low exchange value (many are like 20-50 cents on keyshops), and I believe I'll have a hard time bartering them. :|
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Oh, I see. I was guessing you already owned a large part. 😅 What about giveaways? :o
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I want How To Say GoodBye. Can we trade? :) I have bought a Mystery Bundle once and I wasn't lucky.
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Just dont. 90% of them are keys they cant sell otherwise. Even if you supposedly get "$19.99 game" its probably sold often below $1 or given away via their "buy with $15 and get free game".
Just browse "below $5" and buy stuff around $1. You get a choice and you might get quality.
That said, I bought one because I cant help myself.
It was "Super Night Riders" ( https://youtu.be/XEl01buKqm0?t=9 ). Yeah, think I learned my lesson there.
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Super Night Riders has almost 200 reviews and a "very positive" average evaluation. Doesn't look that bad to me, considering that with 20-games bundles, the average price for a game is usually around 0.75€.
Of course it depends on which kind of gamer/collector/trader you are, but that applies to other bundles too
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200 reviews for 9 year old game doesnt really sound that great to me - personally. Maybe im overly rude tho.
HL at 0,99€ so thats "ok i guess".
Just really not for me.
Even at 0.75€ you can pick up decent games without gamble junk. Or just get some 3€ game that can give you AAA experience if you dont mind 10 year old games..I guess
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Considerations about game quality are highly subjective, but you don't find a huge amount of games with that amount of reviews and rating. I wouldn't know how to quickly get exact numbers, but I'd say it's probably in the top 3% games on Steam.
Your second observation also is very reasonable, but subjective too. For someone who likes collecting games, and takes the time barter the ones they already own, mystery bundles can be worth it, since some of those games have considerably higher prices on the store or keyshops
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Honestly I don't second the opinion against mystery bundles. There are good and bad instances of bundles (and the one at hand is a bad instance), but pricewise the 20-games versions are worth it
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Usually you end up with one or two decent games and a bunch of junk. And the decent games are usually already bundled so good chance you already own them if you're library is big enough. Not bad for creating giveaways but money is better spent elsewhere if you are trying to find a game you will enjoy playing. It's a gamble, hence the slot machine in the title of this thread.
The argument against mystery bundle threads is they were way more effort to compile the list of reported games and the list isn't even that useful. People can discuss/brag/complain about what they got in the comments but I'm not going to make a gigantic list of games that somebody might get if they buy this bundle.
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I wasn't questioning the choice of not creating threads for mystery bundles, but the widespread opinion that such bundles are "trash" and aren't worth buying.
For one, I believe that what "junk" is, is highly subjective. I find most of the bundled games enjoyable, except maybe a tiny portion which are often the few profile-limited ones. Also for someone who like collecting games, mystery bundles can be useful.
By the way, the other kinds of bundles often include games of the same quality, but sometimes at a considerably higher average price. As an example, consider "Nephilim Resurrection", which was bundled today in the Ruthless Bundle, and goes for at least 2.40€. It has 3 reviews only and is profile-limited. You rarely find AAA-games, or their likes, in other bundles too. Maybe the closest to that are Killer Bundles.
To me, and many other users I know, the main issue with mystery bundle is that many games are often included, and have become very common, so it's hard to find people to barter them with. By the same token, they've become very cheap on keyshops, and their trading value has declined considerably. Notwithstanding this, I still buy at least a couple of mystery bundles when they have a 20-games version.
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Hey! Long time no see! :) But to stay on topic, this kind of bundle is only good if you are starting trading, because then you can switch one or more for games that you actually want to play. But people need to remember, that unplayed games no matter the cost are the most expensive ones. 19 games pack is 16.29€ (weirdly there is no 20-pack option for me) For that price, you can buy for example Red Dead Redemption 2. Is it better to own 20 random games that you probably will never play or own 1 game that you'll play over 100 hours?
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Hi Hallak, long time no see indeed!
You know that I'm collector-minded, so I'll take quantity over quality. xD Indeed we were able to do some large trades thanks to this difference in perspective. Also I'm planning to try out all the games in my library even if for only 1 hour each, and the hundreds of videos on my channel are witness to that. About Red Dead Redemption 2, I was able to play that too, it was on PS Plus though ;)
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I know I know, collectors are different animals xD. I don't personally attack you because I'm the same :P and rdr2 is just an example. I only have a little bit fewer than 3k unplayed games and I played 100 games last year (and that's me trying to play my backlog more actively). So at this rate, that's 30 years for me :D. In your case, if you play 1 game every day, that's 27 years too, if you only play those that you have and not demos of games that you don't xD. We are doomed xD
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Rencounter - bad
Tropico 3 - Steam Special Edition - bad
The First Templar - Steam Special Edition - bad
Internet Cafe Simulator - bad
Landlord's Super - at least wasn't free at any point
The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard - at least wasn't free at any point
Grand Mountain Adventure: Wonderlands - ok but free...
Snow Moto Racing Freedom - non bundle - we are getting somewhere
Broken Lines - ok but free
Hiveswap Friendsim - very positive
Radical Relocation - none bundle
The Complex - bad,fmv
Double - VP, free
Alchemist Adventure - free
Cook, Serve, Delicious! 2!! - bundled google times
MagiCat - Free,VP
Aqua Moto Racing Utopia - ....
A Game of Thrones: The Board Game - Digital Edition - yes, give me digital version of social interaction...
Witchaven - ok i guess?
Circle Empires - ported mobile game?
Last time I did one of those mystery things was surprisingly good, got like 80% games i dont have.
This one was a Shame
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give me digital version of social interaction...
Discord VC with friends? :o
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LOL, and there used to be times, when 30 cents per game was expensive for me and i better skipped that cause there were simply better cheaper bundles in those years (and yet with surprisely good games inside). :)
BTW, Witchaven not OK at all- that became mediocre, some says even pure trash, instantly after launch in 90s, today horrible very badly playable DOS FPS only for collectors of weird games. Same note about TES Redguard, pure trash with just TES trademark, collectors still love that, lol.
Only good games i see here are Tropico 3 (modern classic, still good banana republic builder simulator), for some people maybe Cook, Serve, Delicious! 2!, both fun games, both milion times bundled.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1698220/Teslagrad_2/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1628130/Who_Pressed_Mute_on_Uncle_Marcus/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/328590/Dont_Knock_Twice/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1820430/Soul_Tolerance_Prologue/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1803410/Checkmate_Showdown/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/506900/Downward_Enhanced_Edition/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1085220/Figment_2_Creed_Valley/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1804610/Recollection/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/468100/Aqua_Moto_Racing_Utopia/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1558990/Siege_of_Avalon_Anthology/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1257660/Time_Rift/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1288410/Outshine/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1490840/Bloodshore/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/449510/The_Crows_Eye/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/587400/Snow_Moto_Racing_Freedom/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1561890/Recursive_Ruin/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1478650/Wiggles/ - fanatical calls it "Diggles: The Myth of Fenris" ?
https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/26277/Lawn_Mowing_Simulator_Landmark_Edition/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1741120/Fantasy_General/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/33520/Tropico_Reloaded/
8 not owned. im happy.
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fanatical calls it "Diggles: The Myth of Fenris" ?
It's called "Wiggles" in German and Polish, "Гномы" in Russian, and "Diggles: The Myth of Fenris" everywhere else
https://steamdb.info/app/1478650/info/ > name_localized
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Fantasy General
200% Mixed Juice!
Karma City Police
Who Pressed Mute on Uncle Marcus?
Soul Tolerance: Prologue
King's Bounty: Warriors of the North - Valhalla Edition
Chasm: The Rift
Garfield Lasagna Party
Snow Moto Racing Freedom
I am not a Monster: First Contact
The Long Reach
From Space
Accident
Retro Machina
Blade Assault
Asterix & Obelix XXL: Romastered
The Wild Eight
Tropico 3 - Steam Special Edition
Grand Ages: Rome
The Smurfs - Mission Vileaf
Red Envelope - Those Who Remain
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STAR PRIZE:
Metro Exodus - Gold Edition
Scars Above
Star Wars Collection
Kraken Academy!!
Kingdom Come: Deliverance - Royal Edition
Worms W.M.D
HumanitZ
Iron Harvest
Starfield
Sniper Ghost Warrior Contracts
Railroad Corporation
Legacy of Kain™ Soul Reaver 1&2 Remastered
Nova Lands
Squirrel with a Gun
Farm Together
Frostpunk: Game of the Year Edition
Hi-Fi RUSH
Control Ultimate Edition
Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2
Wild Bastards
Void Crew
DRAGON BALL: Sparking! ZERO
Metaphor: ReFantazio
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speechless - all others before you got random junk but you .... it almost makes me buy 20 keys... almost...
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There are several there I find it hard to believe would be in this bundle (or any bundle in the case of Metaphor: ReFantazio)
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likely just listing the pool of the Star Prize which very few will hit.
the jackpot(name changes at times) is usually AAA games, or a package of many games including AAA.
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Took one for the team u_u
12 is better than 6
alex kidd in miracle world dx
buckshot roulette
close to the sun
crash time 3
dead age 2
deathrun tv
diluvian winds
driftland: the magic revival
gonner
hammerwatch anniversary edition
hands of necromancy
i am not a monster: first contact
kingdom wars 4
mia and the dragon princess
pure farming 2018
slaycation paradise
stasis
teslagrad 2
the smurfs - mission vileaf
I'm actually pretty okay with my result :)
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did 2 bundles of 20 games each.
red letter Bloodshore
1st bundle
Fantasy Wars
GetsuFumaDen: Undying Moon
UFO: Aftershock
Diggles: The Myth of Fenris
King's Bounty: Dark Side
Alchemist Adventure
The First Templar - Steam Special Edition
Ziggurat
Deflector
200% Mixed Juice!
Overcooked
Gravity Badgers
Legend of Keepers: Career of a Dungeon Manager
Rebel Galaxy
Headsnatchers
Paleon
Blue Estate The Game
YouRiding - Surfing and Bodyboarding Game
Chicken Invaders 2
Rebel Galaxy Outlaw
2nd bundle
ChromaGun
Medieval Kingdom Wars
Monster Slayers
The Shapeshifting Detective
Snow Moto Racing Freedom
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Recursive Ruin
Drug Dealer Simulator
Frogun
Don't Knock Twice
Sparklite
Time on Frog Island
Metal Unit
Epistory - Typing Chronicles
NecroVisioN + NecroVisioN: Lost Company
Hammerwatch Anniversary Edition
Imperium Romanum Gold Edition
Driftland: The Magic Revival
Bloodshore - yes i got the game from my red letter gift in the bundle also
Dead Age 2
all in all meh
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Against my better judgement I grabbed one pack. The gamble did not pay off.
Checkmate Showdown
Pumped BMX Pro
Internet Cafe Simulator 2
Strikey Sisters
Internet Cafe Simulator
Kingdom Wars 2: Definitive Edition
Alchemist Adventure
Rebel Galaxy
Recursive Ruin
Ten Dates
Floppy Knights
Chicken Invaders 2
Outshine
Looterkings
Dead End Job
Nanotale - Typing Chronicles
Imperium Romanum Gold Edition
Patch Quest
Degrees of Separation
White Noise Online
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'Ten Dates' is a nice one at least, and only bundled once (I think).
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Thanks to all those who gambled, I'll hold onto my money.
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Alchemist Adventure
Aqua Moto Racing Utopia
Behold the Kickmen
Buckshot Roulette
Checkmate Showdown
Chicken Invaders 2
DEATHRUN TV
Defend the Rook
FORECLOSED
Internet Cafe Simulator
Internet Cafe Simulator 2
Mia and the Dragon Princess
Mini Thief
Retro Machina
Siege of Avalon: Anthology
The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard
The Gallery
Three Minutes To Eight
Tropico Reloaded
Witchaven
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Ok NZer here
anyone else not seeing the option to buy 20, only a max of 19
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must be imperial to metric conversion 😼
But weirdly enough your page looks completely different from what I see in the US. The layout of the buttons and everything is different.
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probably a price point comparison for $ conversion
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Not sure what causes this.
I also see 19 in Europe, while others from here don't.
But you end up with 20 games.
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Mystery Star Bundle
Chasm: The Rift Another dos FPS type game.
Chicken Invaders 3
Who Pressed Mute on Uncle Marcus?
Tropico 3 - Steam Special Edition
When Ski Lifts Go Wrong
Dread X Collection I had no idea about this one, im in love.
Teslagrad 2 Honestly, idk why they made a 2nd one.
King's Bounty: Warriors of the North - Valhalla Edition
Alex Kidd in Miracle World DX
Kingdom Wars 4
Hammerwatch Anniversary Edition 1:1 cost in triple pack as well
Just Ignore Them
MARSUPILAMI - HOOBADVENTURE Family-friendly 2D rayman ripoff, looks nice
Super Dungeon Maker
Dead Age 2
Cuban Missile Crisis
Praetorians
Retro Machina Gorgious, but a classic adventure type game
Interrogation: You will be deceived
Agatha Christie - The ABC Murders
Mystery Star Bundle
Vectronom
Fallback: Uprising AKA "fallback"
Return to Castle Wolfenstein classic, win
Shadows: Awakening
12 is Better Than 6
Fallout 3 Classic, but weak win
How to Say Goodbye
Chenso Club
The Gallery never bundled, trash
Definitely Not Fried Chicken looks fine
Aqua Moto Racing Utopia fine for what it is.
GoNNER - Low tier bundled a bunch, but good game
Crash Time 3
NEXT JUMP: Shmup Tactics
A Game of Thrones: The Board Game - Digital Edition
Alfred Hitchcock - Vertigo
FORECLOSED never bundled looks okay
MagiCat
Overloop
The Bunker
Red Envelope BONUS: Grotto
Mystery Star Bundle
Peachleaf Pirates
Internet Cafe Simulator
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood
Golf Gang
Cook, Serve, Delicious! 2!!
Snow Moto Racing Freedom
Kingdom Wars 2: Definitive Edition
Embr
Headsnatchers
Nanotale - Typing Chronicles win
Planetiles win
Uurnog Uurnlimited
Monster Slayers
The Crow's Eye
Pure Farming 2018 Deluxe
Recollection
The Smurfs - Mission Vileaf
Inua - A Story in Ice and Time
Karma City Police
Looterkings
Mystery Star Bundle
Time on Frog Island -- always a win, great game
Imperial Glory
Patrician III
Imperium Romanum Gold Edition
Barrow Hill: The Dark Path
Party Hard 2
The First Templar - Steam Special Edition
Monsters' Den: Godfall
Radical Relocation
Degrees of Separation
200% Mixed Juice!
Overcooked!
The Long Reach
Time to Morp Win
Chicken Invaders 2
Medieval Kingdom Wars
Smoke and Sacrifice
Diluvian Winds Win
Garfield Lasagna Party
Foretales
BONUS: Lunar Sale - Red Envelope FREE SPEND - $1
Mystery Star Bundle
Medieval Kingdom Wars
The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard
Penarium
Shortest Trip to Earth
Defend the Rook never bundled, looks good.
The Gallery
Tunche
Alchemist Adventure
Aqua Moto Racing Utopia-- never bundled, looks okay
Dungeons 2
The Wild Eight
FORECLOSED never bundled looks okay
10 Second Ninja X
Graveyard Keeper worth
Dread X Collection
Animal Rescuer-- never bundled, looks bad
Blazing Beaks -- a favorite but cheap game
White Noise Online
Close to the Sun
Alex Kidd in Miracle World DX
Mystery Star Bundle
A Game of Thrones: The Board Game - Digital Edition
Beat Cop
DOOM II low teir win imho
Tropico 3 - Steam Special Edition
HYPERVIOLENT
Alfred Hitchcock - Vertigo
Nuclear Dawn
Party Hard
GetsuFumaDen: Undying Moon - low teir win imho
Chroma Squad
Flashback
DOOM 64
Coromon
Encased: A Sci-Fi Post-Apocalyptic RPG
Those Who Remain
XIII - Classic
Out of Space
Banners of Ruin
Imperial Glory
Internet Cafe Simulator
Mystery Star Bundle
Teslagrad Remastered
Agatha Christie - Hercule Poirot: The First Cases
Conarium
The First Templar - Steam Special Edition
Hiveswap Friendsim
Slaycation Paradise
Ludus
Mini Thief
Super Sportmatchen
Nanotale - Typing Chronicles A win
Floppy Knights
Epic Chef
The Shapeshifting Detective
Rune Classic
Broken Lines
200% Mixed Juice!
Looterkings
DOOMBLADE A win
Ziggurat 2 A win
The Smurfs - Mission Vileaf
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Hey guys sorry its 24h late, got the new bundle video out this morning for anyone interested in it
https://youtu.be/T4XcFjjgUvo
Again a bunch in here that are not listed XD enjoy
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Will I ever learn?
- Soul Axiom Rebooted
- Diluvian Winds
- As Far As The Eye
- Nanotale - Typing Chronicles
- Checkmate Showdown
- Snow Moto Racing Freedom
- Teslagrad 2
- Praetorians
- Retro Machina
- Fantasy Wars
- The Shapeshifting Detective
- Floppy Knights
- Don't Knock Twice
- Epic Chef
- YouRiding - Surfing and Bodyboarding Game
- Broken Lines
- The Final Station
- Voltaire: The Vegan Vampire
- Recollection
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Their new "Win a Steam Deck OLED" promotion seems very sus to me. No option to enter without purchase, and they are almost certainly not a registered lottery in the UK where their business is registered (and if they somehow were they would still need to indicate this on the website alongside their registration number.) Have Fanatical finally crossed the line into illegal gambling?
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You are buying 1-20 random items, and you have a chance to get any item in the pool. I don't see how one of the items being a Steam Deck makes this different from any of their other mystery bundles. It is always a "gamble" that you hope to get something you want from the mystery bundles, but you always get the number of items you pay for. I assume that's why it's not legally considered gambling.
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According to the terms and conditions, it's a limited time giveaway where each purchase counts as an entry into the giveaway. The OLED is not being added to the regular pool of items available, there is only one OLED and the winner will be selected via a random drawing on a set date. This meets all the criteria for a raffle under UK law, and under UK law, unlicensed non-charitable raffles are only legal if confined to a physical brick and mortar business. If they're conducted over the internet, the proceeds are not going to charity, and you must purchase an item to gain entry into the giveaway, they constitute gambling and must have a license to be legal.
The only way to get around this, and this is what most businesses in the UK do (and other countries with similar restrictions), is to allow for participation without purchase, typically through sending in a postcard or letter with your name and address on it. That would turn it from an illegal lottery into a legal promotion.
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If you think they are doing something wrong you can report them
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I think the only time I got something really good out of mystery packs or bundles was when I got Dark Souls 3 from Green Man Gaming Mystery Bundle a couple of years ago, when the game was kind of new. Got it from the single key pack. Felt like winning the lottery. xD
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Mystery Bundles is the biggest income maker for Fanatical.
Disposing their shovelware and getting paid for it.
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My pull of the year!
The first templar
Terror of Hemasaurus
200% mixed juice
My big sister
XIII classic
Love's crescendo
Blazing beaks
Imperial Glory
Cook serve bla bla bla 2
Lootherkings
Alfred Hitchcock vertigo
12 is better than 6
Snow plowing simulator
retro machina
crash time 3
Astronarch
Monster Sanctuary
Asterix and Obelix XXl
Broken lines
Degrees of seperation
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Are all keys in these mystery bundles region free? Not sure how to check the region restrictions on them.
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I would check the Fanatical store page for the game(s) in question. Below the "Add to cart" button it will say whether it activates in your region. Next to that there is a "View all" button to see other regions where the key will activate. I click on the first country in the list (Afghanistan) and hold the down arrow to quickly scroll through all the countries. If I see a red mark, I will scroll back to see what country/countries are excluded.
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cross checking fanatical store page and steamDB is only way, most will have no region locks but not all
I would assume anything with a PRC restriction(this one is pretty much always true if there is a PRC locked sub) or tier 1 country restriction is the one you got.
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Tropico 3 - 35JLQ-88HYY-X?BL2 (?=L)
Grand Ages: Rome - DYK?H-ECJLR-IFQZC (?=Z)
The First Templar - 3EWJC-G?FJY-4QY04 (?=Y)
Patrician III - ZK5TK-6HXI7-F?Y7E (?=G)
DC's Justice League: Cosmic Chaos - 08?7X-JNZN9-JJF3L (?=4)
Psychonauts - PC?AV-BXV39-4H7R5 (?=R)
Cook, Serve, Delicious - 5MNBR-Y5LLH-K?XD2 (?=P)
Ashina: The Red Witch - MGTCD-BK883-W?NC8 (?=2)
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Mystery Star Bundle
5 Tiers, 1-20 Items
22 Jan 2025 - 26 Feb 2025
Mystery Keys: $0.70 - $1.00 each
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