500 for that is ludicrous.
Same damn thing in 500GB is $150.. Get two if you need that much space o.o
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OBRE5UE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I agree. I will buy a 500GB SSD + 3T HDD. Use the saved money for an 8th generation i5/i7 CPU.
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NZD, not USD. 500 GB / 1 TB basically cost the same per GB.
But not sure why he also buys the 960. The single 1 TB drive would be sufficient. And that i5... meh.
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Says nothing overkill, adds a 1TB SSD, expects 144hz AAA gaming... I think we need to have a talk about the word overkill lol.
On a more serious note, you need to scrap the CPU and MB, go 8th gen, thought that was obvious at this point.
And for the love of humanity ditch that huge and expensive SSD and get a HDD for mass storage.
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I'm sure it's displaying new zealand dollars, but it's still really high.
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I don't know what is happening in New Zealand, these prices are insane.
Newegg doesn't deliver there?
Amazon doesn't have better prices?
I bought similar stuff minus the ssd less than a week ago for around 600 usd.
1700x ryzen 300
350b mobo 100
ddr4 3k 16gb 150
212 hyper turbo (the one with two fans) 20
And I wouldn't have paid a penny more.
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I will probably buy whatever I can from newegg. NZ pcpartpicker doesn't have newegg listed.
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Personally i always look for what i need a PC. Is it gaming, office stuff, graphic design and or programming.... So here is my question: What do you need your PC for? Is is mainly gaming? If it is I would advise you, and this is my opinion, that you would be better off not going for the 512 dollar SSD but just replace it with any 7200 rpm regular one. That way you can free up your budget a bit more and go for another/better component(s).
I have a samsung SSD 500 gig where my windows some graphic design programs and a couple video editing programs are on. For office stuff I use my laptop. I also have about 20 TB at 7200 rpm that are in docking stations. Now a lot of games have bottlenecks when it comes to performances, which is where sloppy coding comes in ( intentional or not). If your equipment is not up to date it may also contribute to the problem but most of the time is is because of shitty coding ( most of these companies ship certain parts of the codes off to India, Pakistan or others and that means a lot of mistakes and crappy programming)
Also your DDR is way to expensive for what you got and you can find the same cheaper either directly from the manufacturer or from amazon itself ( newegg is also a good choice but i heard that people got some crappy components in the past). You can also get more "bang for your bucks" if you do some smart price watching and comparing what the DDR actually does.
As for case it also depends just make sure it is wired properly and that it is easy to install your components. I have cut myself numerous times while installing pc components.
some info about SSD and HDD and the difference. Older games it will not matter, new games might see a slight difference. SSD's are great for graphic work, making your OS better/faster, streaming and video editing. Games not that much ( if you want the best of the best go for consoles. You want pc games that run beautiful go with Xbox). Ps 4 is also good but the fact that Xbox will play games in 4k....
Anyway that is my opinion. Cheers and good luck with constructing your new pc!
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The dispute section at steam will contradict you there. consoles are plug and play. No fuss just put your game in/dwnload your game and presto you can play your game. Pcs are more often than not: pay for your game, hope steam, drivers, firewall other crap on your pc will not disrupt it and even then your game will not run because of some steam malfunction/corruption whatever. Lately, after the update in sept 2017, steam is getting heaps of complaints and refund requests. Reportedly they "fixed it" but the problems still continue and no, the majority of the people having this problem are not "they have bad pcs" or some variation of that.
yeah sure if you spend 5000 dollars on a pc it can out preform any other pc and console... but only for 6 months. then the new version comes out so your "new version" from 6 months ago is losing out. Also Xboxs plays native 4k no low budget or even mid range pc has done that at a steady pace. so why buy 1500+ dollars/euros whatever rig, which is mid range, for less quality than an xbox ( if you go for resolution and 4k gaming, easy to use, no fuss or fudging around figuring out what has or hasn't been updated?)
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I can use the same excuses as others use when they say " your pc is not up to date/new". Your internet is slow, your internet service is not allowing you to use the full speed ( which is nearly everywhere), Maffia 3 is a crap game, both on pc and consoles. I also had to install reinstall and this 4 times pulling a cool 200 GB with warhammer 2...
consoles are plug and play. Yeah you have to update and download games too, just like pc, but once you download everything you are set. With pc chances are high that you have to check if everything is up to date because the latest update didn't auto install/ corrupt install etc and then you have steam app acting up now and again....
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No plug and play means get the game install the game and or download the game. Go with the times man ( buying a code on the internet or game store is the same as plug and play.. the definition is buy a game and play it not what you suggests). Besides NOTHING is plug and play not even pc games if i follow your reasoning :)
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In my entire steam library, there are maybe 3 games I've had compatibility issues with that weren't resolved in 3 minutes or less.
But yes, consoles tend not to have the compatibility issues that are now fairly rare among PC games. There are some, but not a lot. But I wasn't talking about compatibility, and neither were you. We were talking about performance - and a PC can typically outperform a console
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Actually bottleneck happens when your CPU / GPU are not fully compatible, not because of game coding lol.
Coding and game engines are mostly highly optimized, high chance is your own personal hardware isn't capable of handling the game at certain resolutions, effects etc. Doesn't mean you get a 5k prebuild pc means its bound to run every single game out there at 144fps 1080p, lots of factors involve into the price, high price pre-build doesn't = running all games max settings. Your GPU and CPU are the key factors you look into from there. It isn't hard. Also even if entirely high end, how you take care of your computer is also very important, doesn't mean best specs = immune to slowing down / ageing from continuous usage. You can get a 2k computer and run it at similar speeds for 5 years by taking care (won't go into specifics as i dont want this to be long), and likewise a 5k computer with another user that is reckless in handling the computer (not physically, internally, such as software etc) so to speak and the com can even go down in 6 months.
This is why researching and buying your own parts is best, understand your hardware first at what settings are optimal for it before blaming the game developer, seen this mistake with lots of users nowadays.
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LOL so what you are saying " it is always your rig and if you do not clean it, it will run like crap. The game developers are "gods"...". This is the age old "its your rig not the developer" argument. Again let me point to the steam dispute and refunds from September till now for evidence of how it is sloppy game developers and/or steam itself that is causing the problem. If an pc of 5 months old in the 2500 euro range has problems ( not a pre build rig like you claim), despite being up to date with every update there is, something else is wrong ( but now you probably going to suggest that "there are exceptions"). ah the twisting and turing
You all assume a lot by insinuating that I buy my pc prebuild. LOL. i suggest you read the part where I say that I build my own pc's but it seems you skipped that part... Oh well...
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Never did i say always and dev's are gods. Its just true for most of the time and i have enough firsthand experience with other users that made me come to this conclusion. Too many users just overestimate what their rig is actually capable of doing, i cant really say much as i have 0 idea what your exact specs are, how you use it, is it well maintained, etc.
I highly doubt the steam refunds are because of the game's optimisation but due to many more reasons. perharps any details to enlighten me.
Well at the end of the day, whether prebuild or not, if specs are shit, specs are shit. No arguing that because of price range that you deserve to play better.
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Drop the 1tb ssd for a 2tb HDD and get intel 8th gen or ryzen 7.
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Just saying you can get 2x 8TB seagate ironwolf internal hard drives for the same price as 1TB ssd... Just saying 16 TB versus 1TB just saying. https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronWolf-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST8000VN0022/dp/B01M1BUBSO/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1510577001&sr=1-11&keywords=internal+hard+drive
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There is no evidence that SSDs are better for gaming. Sure modern games will run faster and better on SSDs but that is about it.
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because over 700 games that are in the game stores do not benefit from ssds at all. Even modern day games bottleneck... so you pay thousands of dollars ( or whatever currency you have over there) for what.. a second faster reaction speed LOL
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focus in on "can" be a difference. If there are so many you can easily list a few.
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tested all the civilization games, average of 1 second or two.
Tested all the total war games minus Warhammer 2.. no real difference again between one to three seconds
Witcher max 2 seconds/GTA 1 second exactly/ Bethesda games: average 1.2seconds.
If you can't wait for 1-3 seconds when starting up a game.....
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There is no evidence?
And then you state yourself that some games will run better?
Are you just trolling now?
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not trolling most games have next to no benefit from ssd only current games might have a slight and i mean slight 10% at max faster loads. That is about it. Why put in a 512 dollar SSD when you can put 16 TB for the same price at near the same speeds just saying
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I would suggest getting a better CPU, my recommendation Intel Core i7-7700k / Intel Core i5-8600K (this is newest gen, more powerful and cheaper). As your current CPU isn't powerful enough to fully optimize your GPU. For CPU and GPU they come hand in hand, having them equally powerful is the best option, never go higher / lower budget on either one.
Storage wise you don't really need 2 SSD, 1TB SSD is purely enough if you are using it to strictly game (you need to have good game storage management, like uninstalling your unwanted games etc but its still more then enough) and not using it for practical use. If you are using for both practical use and gaming, ?TB(depends on your needs) HHD for your normal applications, files, etc. and maybe a 250GB / 500GB / 1TB(only if you want to download lots of games) SSD for your OS (for a way faster boot up rate) and game storage.
For RAM, G.Skill Trident Z instead of Ripjaw V series would be a much better choice, better overall performance and cheaper (at least from where i am). But its not too much of a difference.
Get a decent monitor that at least have a refresh rate of 144Hz and 1080p for your 1080p gaming with 144 fps.
The rest is not much of an issue, but make sure your power source is around 650W - 750W, safe spot for this build
Just what i can help with. Overall its a decent build.
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I'd never chose a 4 core nowadays. At least a Ryzen 1600 or Intel equivalent is a must.
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I definitely wouldn't get a 7600K atp unless you can find a crazy good deal on one. The 8600K should cost about the same price but have an additional 50% performance boost in multi-threaded tasks due to the extra cores.
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opt a ryzen : https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/tcmztJ [cheaper oc ready]
opt b intel : https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/RksptJ [expensive oc way higher after delid]
intel is about 20ish % faster in games and every day work , where Ryzen is awesome if you want to work on video and streaming but intel isnt that far any way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12ossqTibLA
https://youtu.be/zUg9lJBbRDU
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People already gave you Ryzen and HDD alternatives, the only alternative I might suggest you to look at is a Cryorig H7 or perhaps a Raijintek cooler? They have better performance than the 212 and (should) have similar costs.
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7600k CPU is ok, but youll get a better return for your money with Ryzen or Intel 8000, if you can consider any alternatives on those it will be worth it.
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This is going to be my last draft of a PC Build.
It's not completed yet, still missing a few parts, which I'm not sure to go with.
A couple of parts, I just chose randomly, so will fix it if I need to.
Not looking for anything thats going to be overkill and so on, just need something that can run aaa games on 1080p at 144hz.
https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/user/aC.Nao/saved/wMK2RB
Needing a case that has 3-4 usb ports on top in front.
An optical drive would be nice as I still get quite a bit of physical copies.
My graphics 1070/Ti is coming from newegg, still deciding.
Going to be taking my PSU from my current PC, unless I need to change it. Zalman 750W 80+ Gold
What are your thoughts?
EDIT: After changing everything, I believe I have the final build.
I5-8600k
ASUS ROG STRIX Z370 Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 2666mhz
NZXT S340 Elite Mid
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD
Kingston 120GB SSD
In the original post, I'll be using my current PSU (Zalman 750W 80+ Gold
Recently got my GTX 1070 delivered
Using my current CD Drive
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