GPU Advice Intel ARC Battlemage (B570 vs B580)

What exactly is your concern here? That the prices will be too high for you to buy the B580 at a later date?

I don't get why anyone considers Intel. Abandoning DX 11,10,9 is a complete no-go for me.
On top of a decade long history of bad drivers. Were crap with integrated and shortly reading up still are now.

Rumours of price increases are due to Trump tariffs, it's not guaranteed they'll apply to Europe as well. Hard to answer whether it's worth risking for the stock to come back or scalpers.

To be honest, I doubt scalpers are going to be touching cards from this end of the budget. They'll be focusing on the Nvidia 50 series that are coming out at the end of January.

You should also be aware that if you have a weak CPU, like anything slower than a Ryzen 7600X or i5-14600K, you're going to get reduced performance with any Intel card due to driver overhead. They might fix this in a driver in the future but it's unlikely. With something at the level of a Ryzen 5600, Arc B580 drops far behind the RTX 4060. Getting a second hand Nvidia/AMD card would probably be much more cost efficient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dF_xJytE7g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00GmwHIJuJY

I'm sure it applies to B570 also

intel? take the 580 then

Refund the card.

These 2 intel GPUs are great bang for buck if you got the appropriate CPU to pair it with, and it just demands too much on that end, which is weird for a low to mid range card. Using a CPU that is lacking or does not work properly with the card, you will be getting worst performance than the 4060. This is for the b580, the b570 is on the same page here but its an even slower card.

If i were you, i would refund it and see what AMD is cooking. Nvidia went in and showed the world what they had to offer, AMD did not because they were afraid. The pricing this time around on nvidia is more aggressive, which means AMD is cornered and has to target a lower price tag on the new cards.

I think amd wanted the 9070XT to be priced closer to 600 bucks, but nvidia screwed them over with the 5070. So now they have to drop the price on the 9070xt, which is their "go-to" card for next generation. This might make the 9070 series from AMD the best value for buck next gen for mid to high range gamers not wanting to go with nvidia. Intel is lacking on that area as they offer low to mid range currently.

From all 3 sides:
-go with intel if the card costs less than 300 bucks and works properly (which it does not, this applies to alchemist cards and battlemage cards, A770 never achieved its true performance and is lacking, b570 and b580 have the CPU pairing problem, both generations have drivers issues i assume and the issue of running older games). Essentially pick this if you want a headache or like experimenting. (should aim for 10gb VRAM or 12gb minimum for some future proofing for new games, 8GB is BAD)

-go with AMD for mid to high range, low tier cards are mostly garbage, they offer better pricing than nvidia but really not worth it, less of a headache than intel for sure. So essentially 300-500 price point is for AMD if the product is good. 7800 XT, 7900 GRE, 9060 series, 9070 series. These are the best cards from AMD currently and what is to come for similar price range. Value will get even better for the older cards as they get discounted to make room for new ones. (you want 16gb in this tier, if you are getting less, you are being scammed, although 12gb could work, i would not risk it. As cards in this tier will be offering performance capable of using more VRAM beyond the 12gb limit)

-go with nvidia for mid to very high range, all of their cards are a scam. Pricing, Vram, reduced specs to make the bigger card look better than ever... Although, the 5070ti might be the best card next gen from nvidia for anyone willing to pay that much. There are plans for a 12gb 5060 that will perform between 4060ti and 4070 if i'm not mistaking, If this card is priced low aswell like 250, it will destroy AMD and intel. 9060 series from AMD will be dead as they will be competing against that, 9070 and 9070 XT are mostly safe as these are competing against 4070/4080/5070 cards which are on a different tier. Intel will be screwed as their b570 and b580, which are not profitable, would be forced to drop even further in value to be able to sell. (again, 16gb or more for this tier, some of the cards here are still scamming people with 12gb vs 16gb or 16gb vs 20gb vram for what they pay for)

Me personally, i am sticking with my rig for as much as possible as it is fairly capable still, the main issue would be my 1080ti showing signs of age and lacking new technology required for some games, performance wise it still delivers reasonable performance. However i am curious about that potential steam machine v2. If that thing is a decent upgrade at a decent price point, i might just go with it. I'm also looking at the handheld market, i got a deck and i feel like upgrading to something a bit more powerfull and get some VR glasses to go along with the handheld. I'm also tempted at upgrading my GPU, however my current setup is more or less equal in terms of lifespan going forward, i suspect my CPU will be "meh" by around the same time period the 1080ti ceases to run games properly, which would be in 2026-2027. So still got 2-3 years of juice left on this setup, upgrading the GPU would be good, but it would require another upgrade in a few years again, which is why i'm 50/50 on this one.