https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/ISHOULDPROBABLYPLAYTHESEATSOMEPOINT/bioshock-the-collection
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Oh dear, however will anyone figure this out? XD
E: I just realized that now all my giveaways are going to end in 2 days.
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https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway//gabriel-knight-3-blood-of-the-sacred-blood-of-the-damned
WWmmf
Didn't realize I made this an invite only. XD
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So... Ended up with a bunch of keys for some reason or another... Regardless of why (I might've intended to use them in some sort of GA event, which would explain the copies), I figured I'd drop these here for any parties that may be interested. Best of luck all!
Vendetta: Curse of Raven's Cry
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway//vendetta-curse-of-ravens-cry
JRgeX
Serial Cleaner
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway//serial-cleaner
kQjPQ
Sid Meier's Civilization III Complete
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway//sid-meiers-civilization-iii-complete
SCuEE
Mortal Kombat Kollection
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway//mortal-kombat-kollection
hgR8K
Edit: I have a GA with one person in it, hiding around the forums. XD
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You have to insert the five-character code that appears below the link between the two consecutive slashes. It should look like:
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/dF42C/whatever-game
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While I'm not the creator of these giveaway, it's safe to assume that this is a common knowledge, certainly not something intended as a "puzzle". Absolutely nothing is spoiled by explaining to someone where the code goes in the URL.
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Indeed, I didn't mean for it to be a puzzle by any means, and apologies to anyone I might have thrown off, simply a small and easy check for whatever bots may be lurking about.
Thank you though!
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No problem, best of luck, assuming you join of course.
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No problem, best of luck, assuming you join of course.
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https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/deleteMdqn9/
Enjoy lads!
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Yono and the Celestial Elephants (Level 0)
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway//yono-and-the-celestial-elephants
PbXB2
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https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/EXTRA/the-signal-from-tolva
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Replace the obvious, as usual. Hope you all are doing well!
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I don't really mind bots if they are used fair. For example... Some people work whole day and can only maybe come to site once a day. Maybe even rarer. And by using bots people doesn't have increased chance for winning. So for me it's okay.
If bot, for example, played a game and win for You (like in CS aimbots), I would be against it. But when there is no harm to anyone, I don't really see why are people mad at it.
Actually, there should be maybe the option that let people automatically entry the games they want to win. I wouldn't use it, as I prefer to see what I am entering to, especially now my wishlisted search is full of new games, because of bundles. And I run out of points. But some people would like to set few games to be auto entered. Why not?
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Well, if there were automated options freely available for every user, I can follow your argument as far as you could set some preferences to have it assist you in matching giveaways relevant to your interests.
The problem is that most people who use bots are likely not interested in using them fairly, and when people are against bots they are generally referring to that kind of usage.
I have no idea how SG's anti-bot features work but it would make sense to have a general policy against bots since it is unrealistic to monitor the blurred line between what is considered 'fair' when you are not accessing the site as a human. The easiest option would be, as you suggest, adding specific, whitelisted features that are directly supported by the site itself, but that is a debate to be taken separately, and I think most users prefer that such features are generally avoided because they go against the human interaction part of the site.
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But how You can not use it fairly? It's impossible, because bots won't give You any advantage.
Also no, when people are against bots in this sites, they mean bots that works on this sites.
Also there is no such thing as "general bots". Because bot is too wide to generalise them into one thing. There are chat bots for example. They still do what all bots do. Automate things.
Bots are bad when You are using them on some sort of giveaway site with limited keys and You don't have to prove Your identity or the security is too easy to break, so one person is supposed to get only one, but it gets like hundred keys to sell them. That kind of bots are bad and gives You advantage.
But it's not possible with SteamGifts, as You have to prove Your identity with a Steam profile. Although, if You are using multiple Steam accounts to log in and use bots of all of them, it's not bot that is bad, but multi accountin, which gives You the advantage. Bot itself just make it easier.
If bot can do, what user can, it's fair use. If bot give whatever advantage (for example automatic aim in Counter-Strike or multiple key getting in a giveaway), this is what we should fight with.
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All that use autojoiners are AH's.
It don't give a "fair use" of autojoiners.
Each one that use automatic systems do that to have a advantage in comparison to their normal available time, propulsion and so on.
And sure people increase their chance of winning with bots or none would do it.
The bot spend all points you gather, to a set point minimum/maximum, 24/7. So you spend more points as normal users that aren't around every time and aren't able to spend all points.
The bot owners appear only all few days, mostly all 4 - 7 days, to collect their wins and so you wait at least that time till your winner take the win. If you have "luck". If you are "unlucky" your winner take it first after 10 days, after you wrote a reroll ticket to the support, so you have a lot of work with writing them "please take your win XYZ", screenshot that different tries and write then a support ticket.
The bots don't click ons ads, so they hit cg's earnings directly.
Human users click, at least a few and from time to time, at a ad and generate a direct income for him.
The bots don't make GA's, they don't use the discussions, they don't write something (a thanks after a win, a other comment, a discussion thread or in a discussion thread) and they don't ant to play the games (it's only collecting and/or for trades and reselling)......
More reasons needed to see they harm the site, the users, the owners and in the end destroy such sites ?
I don't think so.
They are one of the biggest reasons why i slowed down my use of this site to give something away and changed how, when and where i do that, because i don't want to feed such people.
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What is AH?
None, I repeat, none of botters have more chance of winning giveaway than me. And I do everything manually. So what advantage are wa talking about here? How does using automation increase chance of winning?
I too, use all points I gather. How was it be...? 10 points every 15 minutes or what? I don't remember. But it takes 2 times a day to not lose any point. It isn't that bad, but even if somebody can't enter the site twice a day, it's still fair to me if they don't want to lose points. Why won't SG give a limit of 1000 points? Why there even is a limit at all?
I don't click on ads either. I will never be.
I don't make GAs anymore too. Because I feel betrayed. But nevermind.
And I don't use discuss regularly. Actually I am here just by... maybe not accident.... but it was less than 1 chance in a million that I even clicked the discossuion. Mostly I only check Humble Choice chart to check whatever I have or not. I don't really care for discussions.
And I don't thank for giveaways too. It's pain for the giveaway owner, to get spam. I suggested a system with reaction-like "thank you", that would not make notification, and You would be thankful that way. But I doubt it ever be implemented here.
Also how do You know if botter don't do giveaway? It doesn't even correlate. Or don't use discussions. Just because somebody use a bot, doesn't make he doesn't use a site at all. Automatic point spending doesn't mean that people are not using the site.
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You fell betrayed by winning more games then you gave, so now you just stop to give at all? Actually therefor I do not see a reason, why you should win anything from now on, do you?
How do you know, if creators feel spammed by one "thank you" per GA?
Masafor didn't say, that bot-creators aren't active in the community, he said bots don't do GAs and that's most likely.
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Well I am a person, who works and therefore comes to the site just once a day. I still don't like bots and would follow DanZDKs argument about a system useable for everybody.
Bots just decrease my winning chance.
Actually the points per day are enough (for most days). During sale times or very good bundles, that I don't buy myself, it's hard to choose, what to enter. But that's one other thing: I am just entering games I would like to play (even though it would not be happening in the next ten years for some games [ crazy backlock :o]). Bots enter everything. It is just collecting. There is no intention to play it. Therefore it should be banned until a solution is found, that'll benefit everybody.
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Your argument doesn't make sense.
On sale site, bot have limited points to spend as You do. It can't enter everything. Bot's won't have more points than You do.
The only difference is that You chose, what to enter. Bot spend the whole points and it can't enter anymore.
It doesn't increase the winning chance at all.
And how do You know if a bot user doesn't intent to play the game? How could You know it? You don't have any data about the user.
You are just assuming things.
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if it was available to everyone as an option on site - yes, it would not give anyone advantages. But obviously it gives advantage now, when only some people have it (if there were no advantage - people would not use bots).
Also, this site is about social interaction, not just about "getting the games you want". People write comments in their giveaways, tell you something, and wish to hear something back from you. Some advertise there their curators/groups/art/site/whatever (and it's allowed). Not everyone does that, but it's still a thing. And those people, obviously, won't have social interaction from bot. Is this kind of reward for giveaway creator who spent real money for the game is too much to ask?
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For me it is for winning games.
It used to be for giving my spare keys too. But I won't do that anymore.
Also, You know. I don't like social interactions. I don't care about people lives and I don't really want people to mind my life as well.
I don't really read descriptions. If I lost some additional giveaway, so be it.
I am here to win some cool games. Why would I register on giving games away site otherwise? To... talk with people? it's just bonus. And I don't use that bonus.
I even once thought of giving up on this site entirely, because the chances to win anything are so small. And I mostly win super small games. And the current system is not really fair. You have to spend thousand of dollars to have increased chance just slightly. If I had this kind of money to waste... I would just buy all the games from my wishlist to myself.
5000$ to reach 10 lvl, that won't give You even a great boost in winning chance. With 5000 I would not need this site at all.
And I don't like people here. Especially those who gives away much. They entitled themselves as the best of the bests, they are so generous. Generous are those who have not much but gives much. Rich people can't be generous, unless they give away most of their money, not just a bit. There is saying about it in some evangelion or sth. And that's so true to life. Rich people doesn't deserve the praise for giving things. Poor people does.
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Then you are just greedy and selfish. And your opinion about bots is biased because of that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I even once thought of giving up on this site entirely, because the chances to win anything are so small.
I really hope you will do that. It will be better for everyone.
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No, I'm not. You know literally nothing about be and You are accusing me of that? Who do You think You are, You arrogant scum?
Not to mention, my opinion about bots doesn't have anything to do with that. It's not even a correlation. You are literally saying that John is biased about cars, because he likes cooking. That's Your reasoning. Not to mention, assuming things about people You don't know.
And I will stay here. Just to trigger douchebags like You. I love seeing people who get triggered for no reason.
Also... You are biased about me, because I said something inconvenient to You :) So don't say I am biased about anything, especially things that doesn't have anything in common at all.
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You know literally nothing about
It's enough to see your opinion to make conclusions. Deny it as much as you want, but you ARE greedy and selfish. It's not accusing, it's just stating the facts. And insulting me for that not only useless, it proves that I was right.
That's Your reasoning.
No, it's not. My logic is flawless, always.
And I will stay here. Just to trigger douchebags like You.
Than you failed, I don't care.
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Without people whom you don't like this site would have very low amount of giveaways. I found it funny that you won a game from such person recently and got no problems accepting their gift (without saying simple "thank you") and yet you blabbing how you don't like people who gave "too much". That is why many people stop doing public giveaways - entitled douchebags like yourself ruining their experience with this site.
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Rich people, poor people. Hum people.
How does someone becomes rich? It can be inherited yes and it can inspire jalousy yes. But some people become rich by working hard, making sacrifices, learning a lot, making choices sometimes bad sometimes good. Also here we are talking of "rich" of money but some people see themselves as rich because of the people in their life, their experiences etc. So what does it really mean being rich?
That's why I am saying they are people. People who are giving a chance to win a game that you wishlisted. Why would you judge them? Who are you for that? What does it add to your life or someone elses life?
When I see someone giving away a lot of good games, I sometimes visit their profile and I see what is their profession, sometimes it's a curator investing in good games hoping to see it's subscribers go up, Sometimes it's someone who wants to celebrate something. Sometimes it's someone who just enjoy giving away. What people do with their money is their personal choice. I have a budget for games, my boyfriend thinks it's too much but I don't go out partying as much as he does so at the end of the day, I spend less than him. Choices.
In summary: people make choices, you are enjoying the benefits of it, it would be easier to just accept that than saying that's it's not enough. And there are a few ways to increase the chances of winning giveaways without going against any set rules. Joinning like minded groups are one of them. See? If you have a problem, you search for a solution that's how you get things done and become happier with how things are in life. That's how you become richer.
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I reached level ten while remaining poor, and I still am poor. If you don't want to give anything, that's fine with me. I will continue to give as long as I have the means to do so.
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5000$ is what I will get in a whole year. More than half of that is used for paying bills and buying food etc. Then there is a slight part of it, that I want to have for myself too. If somebody can casually give it away, he is not poor. If I only had that much money to give away to random people...
And I have given away many games. Too many actually.
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Well, as far as I know, "poor" is defined differently in different places. For myself, I like to look at different "quality of life" aspects.
Everything that is not food, shelter, or clothing should be considered a luxury. That includes things like running water, furniture, pets, and climate control (heating and cooling). Depending upon circumstances, "poor" people often have access to many luxuries, but they are usually so focused on acquiring "the basics" that they do not spend time appreciating such comforts. It is human nature to worry about what you do not have instead of being thankful for what you do have. One good thing about poverty, however, is that it is usually a humbling experience, and Humility is far more valuable than any material possessions.
Instead of complaining about how little money you have, you should be asking how to maximize the money you do spend. (Assuming you want to increase your CV, of course.) There are many people on SteamGifts who have reached high level without ever possessing a great deal of money.
P.S. (Until losing my job from COVID-19, the last year or so has seen me spending 110% of my income on food and bills. Thank God I have managed to get by with the help of others. It took a very long time to save up enough money for my latest giveaway.)
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How delusional can you be? Spend less time in your closed groups. The average public giveaway on SG won't even get you a 'thank you' reply from the winner. The site IS NOT about social interaction. That's just facts. People are here to win/give away games.
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I can't spend less in my closed groups because right now I'm in none of them. Same as EyrieTheEagle, you really need to be less egocentric. If you don't want/need social interaction - it does not means everybody thinks the same. And most givers here WANT social interaction, I can prove you that. Look, games cost money. People don't have urge to spend money for nothing, they ALWAYS do it for some reason. Some may of course give away games just to have more chances to win something because of higher level, but I hope I don't need to tell you how dumb that is, it will never pay off. So, most givers must have some other reason. And that reason is totally social - those people want to feel good because they doing something nice to others, they want gratitude, at least a simple "thank you". Some also give away games to advertise their group/curator/games/whatever, but guess what - it's also social interaction. Without that this site would not exist. Yes, I know, majority is 0-level users who just came here to take, and don't care to give back even their gratitude (I'm not asking everyone to do giveaways, some people may really be unable to do, but everyone can do as much as thank giveaway creator for the game they won), but this majority does not define what this site is about, because this majority can easily be replaced or even ditched, and site will stay the same.
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And most givers here WANT social interaction, I can prove you that.
As if this conversation was not evidence enough.
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3-5 from 15 public GA's don't bring a thank you after a win.
I blacklist all of such people that don't know basic manners and guarantee with it that they can't get something else as that one win from me.
And yes one of the reasons why i make not much public Ga's anymore because i think a thank you from the winner is the minimum to expect
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I support this 100% and I always thought the same, to be honest. A simple thank you, just as when someone holds the elevator, or the door, for you is basic courtesy.
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It's been a while since there was a link here so here is one : https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/gnagnagnagnagna/witch-the-bloodlines
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game is BLOK DROP NEO, 3x, level 1, 10 hours remaining:
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/N4BeQ/
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So you want to create public GAs, but you don't want bots and auto-join scripts to enter? Good. Just post a comment in this thread with a link to an invite-only giveaway. The idea is very simple and is really not different from many (most?) of the other threads in the forum, except that you don't need to invest much time or thought into it. Just post the link in a comment, and you're done :-)
A few additional guidelines:
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I'm trying to find how serious the issue with bots really is. So far the results don't really prove things one way or another. Here are some stats from my latest experiment:
Game: Space Trader: Merchant Marine
Number of giveaways: 5
Period: 3 days
Yet some more stats:
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