Giveaways - Is it a good idea to use SGTools for extra filters / special rules?

There are already enough limits as it is (Level, invite (by puzzle or group) etc etc.
So many people lately that seem to be using it, being able to join a giveaway makes it more and more an elite thing.

These filters should be integrated in SG instead of going the detour over another page !

I mean, its cool, but were are having too goddamn filters..

meh

soon enough youll have to sacrifice a cat just to be able to enter a giveaway >.<

thanks for the ga even if i can't enter :3

to everyone complaining about the tools, these limitations are already imposed by some groups with ratio and rules, so an invite-only ga with sgtools isn't different from a group ga.
in any case it's better since you don't need to join 100 groups to enter something you like.

and it's better if you "thank" all rule-breakers and leeches for this, instead of complaining to ga creators.

I can't enter this giveaway. I think I'm gonna cry and throw a fit about it screaming something about inclusion.

Kidding, have a bump :)

I'm trying to create a GA, how do I filter by blue eyes and blonde hair only? Also considering right-handed-only players.

I've noticed that some, not all, of the biggest opponents to using this tool are those with a massive W/G ratio deficit since that seems to be a popular rule in these giveaways...

This SGTools thing is annoying.

If you're really that worried, then make it exclusive to a group you trust or whitelist. Now having to always double-check that it's not a phishing site instead or something is just tons of fun.

I don't like this tool.
I think using it to check for rule infringements like non-activated wins is fine, but I don't agree with ratio restrictions (note that this is coming from someone with a good ratio) even though I can see why people would want them.
I definitely draw the line at stuff like maximum win value restrictions.

Trying again, with RACE Injection

I simply see it as just one more way to deliver the giveaway link. And it's definitely easier to set it up that way than to handle invites to a private group.

Over time I've seen tons of different ways for people to restrict access to their giveaways: event-based whitelisting, groups, itstoohard, games you had to download and play to get the giveaway code, an external website with a labyrinth, sgtools, other kind of puzzles, etc.

Some people will use it, others won't. It someone doesn't care to go through the extra hoop, they can just skip them. Nobody is forcing anyone to enter those giveaway

SGTools actually can be quite fun, I'll surely try some things out with it. Low level giveaways, wins between 3-10, similar things really makes easier to gift for low level users. Usually I use level 1 filter, but when someone with 2 given, 100 won enters... that's pretty much infuriating. Similarly the ratio requirement gives pretty good chances for people with only a few wins (if they also gifted some games)

bump

I personally dont mind SGtools

I don't like the idea of anything new that makes giveaways more exclusionary. I've recently come back to steamgifts after months of absence, right before the advent of the white and black lists, and I, usually, don't even bother with the forums anymore. Its all whitelist whitelist whitelist whitelist. Maybe groups from time to time. I don't really have a lot of time to be in a bunch of threads, post, and make a name for myself to get on the list. Maybe I'm just being buttmad but I don't think it would help more casual users.

I missed the giveaway but thanks for doing it regardless.

I think it's a bad idea. There are already so many limited giveaways. I hardly see any public giveaways anymore. xD

Eh, I don't really have a hard and fast opinion either way, but I do lean toward supporting the use of SGTools if that's what the GA creator wants.

I don't see the SGTools requirements as any different than level, whitelist, group, puzzle, or forum-only giveaways. In addition, unlike some of those other methods, it's awful hard to exploit SGTools. I do hope, however, that people using it to make their GAs are still reaching a wide enough audience (and yes, I know that term is subjective) and not using them to cater to only a small portion of possible entrants. So far I haven't seen anyone abusing it (or even the possibility to truly abuse it), and since I'm a proponent of the whole "it's your money, give it away as you see fit" policy, I see no reason to oppose the use of SGTools to create giveaways.

I probably won't ever use it (I know I should never say never), but only because it makes more work and takes more time for me to use it, NOT because I don't think it's a useful tool. :P

Meh, you guys can do whatever you want.

The way I see it, it gives plus options to choose from, but not in an additive manner. I like the idea of limiting it from the top down, not just bottom up like SG natively supports. If the site would implement locks for max level/max CV won, I'd use the hell out of it to get the games to the more unlucky ones.

if you really need so many restrictions maybe just maybe giving isnt your thing...

As a convict I cant enter in such GA, but in general - yes, using sgtools is good idea. Even with restrictions relating to my mistake)

Good is subjective; those who think it's a good idea can make SGTools giveaways, and those who think it isn't can make traditional giveaways. No problem with that.