Are you a holiday helper?
This bundle is worth it for the good cause and otherwise it's not a bad Groupees bundle. ^^
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I wanted ravager and the music looks nice. Maybe something extra in the unlocks. Could have been worse :)
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Am I correct in thinking the Mystery Games drop at a later date?
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Momonga Pinball and Xmas Shooting are definitely great. The bundle is a 6 or 7 right now (would be higher if I didn't already buy that Celldweller CD). Let's see if the mystery games can bump it up.
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Dead In Bermuda is really cool if you're into that sort of thing. Sadly the balancing is pretty messed up.
I was playing on Easy and was swimming in resources later on. I should have trusted a review I read prior to playing and played on Easy until I got the cooking-pot and then switched to normal.
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I do not understand what this "Easy" you speak of is.
Do you mean "the difficulty directly under Impossible"? =O
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:D Yeah, exactly. I'd like to hear more opinions on this because maybe I was just bad but Normal seems to be "broken" in the early stages of the game (plus I was really unlucky with RNG and kept getting 1x of the resource I don't need from looting the crashed plane for ~8 turns in a row). I can imagine Normal gets doable once you have most of the equipment but I don't really see a way of getting to that point without most of my survivors dying from eating raw fish first.
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I played their next game a bit and to say it harshly, "Dead in Bermuda is the This War of Mine that Groupees can bundle"...
(no idea why one would play their games when there's much more immersive alternatives out there)
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*Lol* So I take it that Dead In Vinland has significally improved on the formula ?
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Not bad. I only want X'mas Shooting.
I did not pre-order.
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This bundle is not eligible for purchase with Groupees coins right? I didn't see an option for it but I may be going blind with old age.
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Thank you for confirming I have not reached 100% tech senility yet.
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By this point, I think those of us that invested into bundles for the coins, or traded for them, or otherwise managed a stockpile of them can start assuming we're screwed over on them. Feels like it's been forever since we've had a coin-able bundle (that wasn't a "Remember when you thought Bad Rats was bad?" bundle, anyway).
But hey- at least I'm not waiting on any prepaid Be Mines. >:3
I'm sorry. Please stop crying. :X
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Get every Be Mine Bundle to be released over the next 12 months (minimum of 10 Be Mine Bundles).
.·´¯(>▂<)´¯·.
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Yeah I've already made a point to back up all my DRM-free Groupees stuff and store extra keys in my database, as it really feels like the writing is on the wall for them. Of course I can't say it's 100% certain that they are going to close down, but given the current trajectory I don't think the prognosis for a rebound is very strong. It kind of seems like they have a stronger future in diversifying away from game bundles and carving a niche in music/book/software bundles instead... at this point there are probably more opportunities for that sort of thing given how saturated the game bundle market is currently. I wouldn't even mind that if they were able to put together some nice bundles of that variety.
Having said that, there could always be a Christmas miracle, in which Groupees suddenly turns it around, eschewing brilliant Be Mine bundles every other week and seeing our fluctuating value coins reaching BitCoin-level heights of prosperity... but I've already asked Santa for something a little more realistic this year. INSERT OBLIGATORY HALF-LIFE 3 REFERENCE HERE
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I feel pretty much the same about Groupees. I knew the bundle subscription for Be Mine was a cry for help, but I honestly expected them to at least deliver that. Seems like they are flat out of options and cling to those software shovelware bundles as a last straw. If I get two more Be Mine bundles from them before they file bankruptcy I won't try to get my 20$ back. Otherwise I'll get my money back.
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It does begin to feel inevitable, doesn't it?
Man, I really need to figure out how to best get all my Groupees music downloaded via my slow internet ...
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well the keys come (either means that game contract backed out or developer hasn't provided keys yet)
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Typically at the midpoint of a bundle, which is typically (and in this case) 7 days.
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Typically...
Groupees hasn't been operating "typically" in a long time. The recent pattern has been that when they say "mystery game", they don't mean "game that we carefully curated and have secured keys for and will reveal later", what they really mean by "mystery" is "we don't yet have any game for this slot, and will try to convince some random developer to put whatever game they don't care too much about into the bundle in exchange for a few pennies". Mystery games have become placeholders for games that they have no idea what they're going to be yet, and often, the quality of the game they are able to procure is much poorer than what has already been revealed. Mystery games have become cheap and crappy tack-ons that are a result of poor planning and deceptive marketing.
So, one shouldn't expect much of anything. Be happy with the bundle as it is now, because you are almost sure to be dissappointed by any mystery reveals, unless it's a grab bag with some good games, which is the only exception.
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In fairness, the bundles the past.. two years now? have been so awful (ranging up to agreeably lackluster), that I can't say I've paid close attention to the details anymore (and certainly, not bought any bundles to reference the progression of). So you may certainly be right. Of course, by that perspective, there's no way to guess when the game'll pop, so I suppose it still works to aim for the midpoint as a general prediction.
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Xmas Shooting - Scramble!! is basically a Christmas-themed version of QP Shooting - Dangerous!! and the game's title follows the same format. :)
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omg wasted 2$, eh at least participated in making meal
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only interested in Xmas Shooting - Scramble!! but not for 2$ tho
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i think it's usually part way through. but there has been some revealed afterwards... there isn't a standard...
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sure, i'll put in $3.50 for the latest celldweller album along with charity and some other stuff
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Looks like this has been extended by a week = longer wait for mystery games, probably going to be garbage.
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It wouldn't be the first time that they extend bundle because they can't provide regular game, make their own "game" within 10 minutes, put it on itch and then reveal it as a mystery game. (Tax Year 3 for reference)
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PSA: Owning Xmas Shooting - Scramble!! gives you a bonus character in 100% Orange Juice [Aru (Scramble)]. Though she isn't quite as good as vanilla Aru...
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Thought it would end today but another week, another week waiting on the mystery games. :(
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No guarantee we'll see them before the bundle is over, either. They have in the past revealed them after the bundle ended sometimes.
I said before, the first Groupees Holiday Helpings was my first ever Groupees bundle, and this one might well be my last -- those mysterious mystery games yet again (and two of them, even!) and their nonchalant attitude about being more and more unprofessional just cement my New Year's resolution of staying far away from (most) Groupees bundles in 2018.
It's just the royalty free music albums (especially if they have Purple Planet) and the (weak) possibility of BeMines with wishlisted early confirmations that make me wonder if I can really do it ...
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Groupees just pulled the last straw. They are done for. Not one more cent will go their way. Well, it was big on the horizon, but now it is for sure that Groupees are going down.
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They extended the bundle for another week without even revealing one of the two 'mystery' games. They simply don't have any games to reveal and it's just sad to see how they lie to their customers.
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How do you interpret their actions then? That they just extend the bundle and not reveal the games for laughs and giggles?
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They decided to extend the bundle so the didn't reveal the mystery games. I don't find this particularly despicable. Of course I do expect them to reveal the games (and provide them to buyers) within the next week. If they just let the bundle end without adding those two games, that would be really bad, but again I have no reason to think they're gonna do that.
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I do have reason because they quite often added coins instead of games in the last days of a bundle during the last year. Also the Be Mine 'subscription' was not fulfilled and I'm not confident that we will ever see the rest of the 10 bundles on Groupees. Each to their own though and I do hope you are right. I'm done with Groupees for good.
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Did they add coins after clearly promising games? I didn't know that. I mostly stay away from Groupees these days, unless I have a very specific reason. I didn't even know a Be Mine subscription existed. Let's see what happens.
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Just look at the bundle now. Coin added and Johnny posted this: "sorry for the disappointment, and yes, we'll no longer launch bundles with mystery games... in past we've done this because keys don't show up in time". Well at least we got one of the games now and maybe the other one will be added... eventually.
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Because that's been the assumption/explanation many times in the past when mystery games were revealed late. I can remember cases of "dev backed out" and cases of "dev hasn't delivered the keys in time" from past bundles. I don't know if either has been the official explanation for this bundle in particular, but Groupees has certainly let that assumption stand and never said anything to the contrary.
"Mystery games get unlocked whenever they do." and "If there is info about the mystery games, you'll probably have heard it by now. Don't think it's people having fun by making others wait for the games." are the relevant official quotes from last night, as far as I see. Now he doesn't confirm or deny that the games just aren't sourced yet, as people in chat suspect, but he's certainly not denying it.
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Understood. Like I said, I've been out of touch with Groupees and Groupees-related drama for quite a while. Evidently they got even worse than I thought. Again, let's see what happens.
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For me, at least, it would be different if when buying the bundle I had known it was "5 games + 2 mystery games".
But buying "7 games" (at preorder), then having the bundle go live and 2 of the 7 games are "mystery", and then not even having one of them shown 2 weeks later as the Steam sale ends does irritate me quite a bit.
The first Holiday Helpings was my first Groupees bundle, and when I bought Holiday Helpings 4 during preorder I already said this was probably my last, because Groupees have been more and more unprofessional this past year; this just cements my decision.
(But as you said, let's see what happens -- and their music bundles have still been great, and a good BeMine could probably still get me to buy it. Still -- I should probably backup all my stuff from there, just in case...)
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Personally, as long as they actually add those 2 games at some point, I'm fine with it. I agree Groupees only get worse, though.
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I bought HH4, because past HH was good.
But that doubled my $ spent with Groupees this year. :o
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Just let it die quietly and go work on something else.
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Like the Be Mine bundles,
10 months only have 3,
Die quietly...
"Be Mine Annual Subscription (Get every Be Mine Bundle to be released over the next 12 months, minimum of 10 Be Mine Bundles)"
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Yeah I know, I was pissed but now it's impossible to refund from Paypal and they won't return any of your money, because they value their own bundles as more expensive than preorder of the bundle.
Thus, let it die quietly so there is no free advertisement for failed game bundle website.
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Extended again! It's getting sad. :(
They need a Groupees Helpings bundle.
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They are beyond ridiculous. Seriously, if they can't fill a bundle with the number of games they promised, then don't promise it. Or just don't make game bundles... can't wait what trash they will put in it at the end when they run out of all options... I don't mind an interesting game for 1$ like they had in spotlights, or smaller bundles, but this cheeky approach is revolting.
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Yeah, gonna just download everything i got from there, before they go completely under, which will probably happen soon enough.
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Pathetic, they really should stop doing game bundles at this point if they can't even add 2 promised mystery games
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"Few people were aware that the "Holiday" in "Holiday Helpings" include Valentines Day and Easter. The mystery games will be revealed in April."
Maybe someone's joke is on point now :D
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Oh hey, forgot about this bundle, saw the topic was bumped. I should go see what my new games are.
*reads topic*
Oh
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Honestly, at this point, I wonder why I even have Groupees bookmarked.
For a site I used to be proud to have my music featured in bundles on, I now think the site is just a spiraling wastebin of garbage. What used to be decent bundles turn into crap like that "Halloween Android Game" bundle that was just the worst asset flips and cheaply made "Halloween" games they could find.
It started with them not caring that a game about domestic abuse was in a "casual" bundle to them pretty much whining that they have to include anything, even games like Youthdrainers where it's just a nude pregnant women running away from tiny monsters who literally want to suck the fetus from her vagina, because they "have to make money."
It seems like they thrived on Greenlight and the rush of trash games it brought to Steam. I fell for it, too: the idea of buying a bundle for a buck, voting for the games, and getting 10+ games when greenlit sounded like a steal. I just didn't know the thing up for being stolen was the dignity of Groupees and the quality of Steam's game library. I fully admit I'm part of the problem since I supported them and other bundle sites so much that I'm now sitting on 8,303 games in my library with a modest figure of about maybe 1,000 that are at least playable and even less that are actually fun and worth playing.
So in 2018 I'm done. Groupees is dead to me. Fanatical's bundles have been less than impressive lately. I might stick with Indiegala for a few more months because there does seem to be a level of wanting to provide actual new games (of varying qualities) to their customers, but other than Humble Bundle and IG I'm out.
Thank you, Groupees, for taking someone who gladly offered you their own commercial and creative product to be included in the $1 "for suckers" tier of a Be Mine (and happily support it!) to someone who just does not care if you finally pull the plug anymore.
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Save Jesus added as first mystery game and also a $1 coin (guess as waiting bonus?)
Second mystery game not yet revealed
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Tbh I rather take 1$ to take that off from a music bundle than having another mobile/flash game like Save Jesus :\
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A coin is cool but if you are not interested in music and only want game bundles then it kinda sucks still, especially with how they are going lately, also you got to have more coins, as usually you can't buy a $1 game bundle (since also you can't preorder with them, i think).
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Best option for a coin is a "Build a Bundle" so you can trade the coin for 2 free games.
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Hmmm, as not a regular Groupees user, what are those coins good for?
Don't seem too useful from above conversation.
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You can use them as payment for bundled, but not pre-orders, and not very expensive bundles
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And with not so many game bundles lately (unless you are interested in music), none selling at $1 (unless it's a build a bundle) they are often useless.
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Groupees - Holiday Helpings 4
7 games + 9 music albums + 1 comics
$2 minimum preorder20 December 2017 - 3 January 201820 December 2017 - 10 January 2018 (extended)20 December 2017 - 12 January 2018 (extended again)20 December 2017 - 15 January 2018
every $1 contributed = 1 meal for the hungry
(25% goes to charity -> $0.25 per meal)
View this bundle on: ITAD - Barter.vg - Lestrades
Tier 1 - $2
Tier 2 - $3.50
Mystery game #1: Save Jesus
Mystery game #2: Space Pilgrim Episode I: Alpha Centauri and Space Pilgrim Episode II: Epsilon Indi
Retail:
CV:
Chart created with Lex's SG Chart Maker
hints:❓ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
still no hints so far :(
Guesses
no guesses yet :(
Previous Holiday Helpings bundles
Holiday Helpings #3 - SG Thread
Holiday Helpings #2 - SG Thread
Holiday Helpings #1
Are you interested in knowing other ongoing bundles? Feel free to check out the new master thread!
Wondering what games you already own from this bundle? There's an extension/UserScript for that! It's called the RaChart™ Enhancer!
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