well just over all thought about it and how do you think it will do in the future.
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too many russians going into euro servers and not speaking atleast english.And asking everyone to know russian like cmon euro server -_-
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1) Dota2 community is more hostile towards new players than the LoL community (that's been my experience, your experience may differ)
2) too much trading in the chat
3) too much russian conversation (probably trading) in the EU/US server chat
4) nicely balanced game and nice graphics
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1)i would say that in lol it`s the same or worse what i know guys in lol report for just picking the wrong hero in draft.
2)depends on the chat for example reddit chat is mostly reddit people trying to find a group to play with.
3)Kinda agree but if you go to other servers like reddit no such thing will happen.
4) YES !!!!!!!!!! :D
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It's gonna be funny when it goes f2p. All the 'pr0s' will be having a field day bashing all the 'n00bs'
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And all the trolls and griefers will be having a field day trolling "pros".
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Meh, you will need to get to the pros level to play with the pros. When you make are finding a matchmaking match the games tend you put you in skill level. If you are not good you will be sent to lower skill level matches. Unless you are a very good player but you are a fucking troll that wants to ruin a game. And well HoN was full of trolls and thats why I stopped playing it. By the way, I haven't seen a lot of trolls playing with me and most of the reports that I submitte were answered telling that some actions were taken. So the community will clean of those trolls.
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After my experience, most f2p games have a rather bad community :/. Especially when they are popular
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1)Both communities are hostile for new players
2)Depends on the channel you are on
3)Russians everywhere even if they have their own server.They dont want to play with the people of their country also :D.
4)Most balanced game of its genre,i dont care about graphics.Gameplay + balance is all you need in this kind of games.
5)Epic fights like this cant happen to a game like lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd4TDvNQHds
Eddited
6)I forgot to mention something about items in dota 2 that doesnt make it better to play but motivates me.I get some items after i play some dota games and i can trade em with other steam games or sell them via paypall.Also i can create items and if valve likes them can put them to ingame store and i can get money from their sales.I really like the thing that i can play a free game and have the opportunities to win something even real money.
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LuckDuck all of your points are valid :D
i agree to all of them sadly on the russian subject aswell.
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Glad to hear and well true about dota being harder to learn but the learning curve dosent suck it
s just hard and they are working on ways how to help new players.Not rewarding,what do you get in lol for winning wee you won . In dota you might get an item nothing big but atleast it gives you something to fight for.And let`s not forget you have to buy skins and heros in lol in dota 2 you can get them for free by just playing.Heros are free from the start all of em.
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i tend to agree.Unlike lol or hon or what else moba like games are out there dota rewards you for playing and trying.And gives you every hero for free so you don
t feel riped off cuz some guy got a better hero for he`s money.
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HoN s got all heroes for free too :P And with their recent changes to the skin store, everyone can get what they want (not a random item that is not even guaranteed to drop) in a few games so I disagree with you. Also, at first i taught that dota s got better community then HoN (too many trolls and raging ppl in there), but after few games i played with full Russian team on EU server that wasnt able to use english, I changed my mind. Anyway, I like dota2 as a game, but HoN is still better for me :)
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I didnt really like it at first but I have grown to love it, I find it enjoyable once you get past the russians and hate/abuse of other players. Im surprised its not offcially released yet. If its a good enough build to be used for the internationals then should be fine for public use?
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true im interested about that quests and social hub part.
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To my opinion Dota2 is gameplay is so bad compared to HoN .. its slow and the map so dark and gloomy ..and also all the heroes got gloomy and dark colors.. theres nothing makes it so bright... over effects and hard to understand whats the enemy doing to you.. they are just focusing on how the heroes say crap in everything and the graphic which these games need a good normal graphic not some super thingy .. and i do play HoN,Dota2,LoL so i know each of these games.. go check the difference between HoN and Dota2 in the gameplay .. HoN is so smooth and everything is clear and in the right place.. so thats my opinion here.. that HoN is more better than Dota2.
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Well im glad to hear your thought but Hon is a direct clone of dota the wc3 mod, yes it
s clear to see stuff but thats really it.Dark oh really get you brightness up for gods sake.In gameplay it
s fine either you haven`t played dota 2 much or your one of those who want to make a nerd war lol.
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might be i dunno about hon all i know it`s like dota 1 in wc3.
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true that HoN is a direct clone of dota the wc3 but they took it and made it right.. but dota2 just showing off their graphic they are not improving the gameplay .. even the items and hero icons they are making them in 3D look -.- which they look ugly.. im not starting a war or something you asked for it and i gave you my opinion .. i was playing dota1 before even HON show up.. but HON made it more better and playable .. and dota2 failed to improve the gameplay
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how did they fail to improve gameplay tell me?
and how hon made it better?
And i don`t think they are showing off there graphics like cmon.
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i dont see how its bad. if they do change thing many fans will start raging and saying DOTA 1 was better and stuff so they decided to keep it simple.i like dota and only thing i wished was it had better graphic and interface now valve is doing that dota 2 had better graphics and interface thats all i need anything more is just optional.
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soon i will make a video showing the both games together and then not me who will decide i will let the community decide what they think about the difference between them.. im not trying to force anyone to leave dota2 and go to hon.. and im not that kind whos fan of a game and the other games are like enemy.. i play the ones that i see enjoyable and smooth and simple.. if dota2 is better i would say it.. just try something.. go to HON pick up Wretched hag which is the Queen in dota1/2 and try to play normal and then go back to the queen and check by yourself then tell me what do you think
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Smite is 3rd person rear view .. is either of the other titles this? .. and what does HoN stand for?
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I played LoL for about 2 years now...I like it very much (even if sometimes I want to smash the keyboard :D)..Dota 2 is good, I played it a bit (20ish matches) but I can't get used to, don't know why...If we can possibly combine LoL gameplay and Dota 2 graphics and the "steam thing" would be perfect...but still, it's just a dream.
EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention that 1 thing I love of Dota 2 is champions' dub, really cool
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Edit:It`s heros in dota2 :D and agreed.
But yeah i know plenty of my friends that are playing lol hardcore and just cant go to dota 2they can
t even give a godo reson for it.
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Yeah, heroes sorry xD
Anyway, yeah you're right!I can't even think about of "leaving" lol for dota...When I played dota 2 for the first time I felt like "OMG I played lol for 2 years, I have my champions' build and everything and now on dota I can't even understand how this hero works"...two different games, that's all...
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An inability to embrace something just because it's new and you already know what you like... Maybe you're getting old. :)
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Love it. Never had any of the problems that people whine about. I'm starting to think most of the whiners have never actually played the game and are just echoing whatever they hear on the internet.
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most of em yes only the russian thing but i feel it`s in all games.
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and better item drop system. I'm playing the shit out of it and the best item I got was unusual and a friend of mine dropped an unusal stumpy in his ~30th game...
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the best on i got is an rare and that happend once !! really 0_0
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I opened 3 international chests and got 3 unusuals. I had to trade to get some nice items. And trading in those spambot channels is a pain -.-
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im waiting for techie for trollin :D and skywrath mage looks interesting
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It's a tough nut to crack, but imo well worth it.
All the heroes are free.
Valve is pouring money and sweat getting this game up to snuff and responding to the community.
Cosmetic items are available through drops rather than just the store.
The gameplay is nuanced as all hell - for good or bad, it's an intricate design, and that can definitely turn some people off while intriguing others.
More is short but well-made. Comic is fantastic. Graphics are good, voice acting phenomenal. Dialogue often hilarious.
I can't bring myself to enjoy a MOBA model where some heroes are ever unavailable without first paying for them.
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I don't want Dota 2 D: I don't want Left 4 Dead 3! I don't want TF3! I don't want Team Dota! I don't want Counter Fortress of Half-Dead 4 Source! Just gimme HL3!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll spam every DOTA 2 thread with this phrase for at least 1 time, i promise it. Maybe Valve will give a fuck after this D:
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If you like MOBA you should love DOTA 2. You know, the game is amazing. I'm trying to get into the the local competitve scheme and we are working really hard. Well my friend you know the game is amazing, but as every MOBA the main problem is people. Trolls, ragers and the non speaking ones ruin most matches.
Well here is my opnion. I stopped playing HoN because the heroes started getting imbalanced and Overpowered. I don't know whats going on with the heroes but well now I'm playing dota. It's true that HoN is smoother than DOTA 2 but you can deal with that. The game is more balanced than HoN or LoL in my opinion. Either for the heroes HoN realeased or by the Runes system that LoL uses (I cannot say much about since I don't like LoL). The game will have every heroes free to play and this really makes the game balanced.
The intereaction between heroes is something amazing but i will say all the sound is amazing. This will be the most played MOBA for sure as soon as the game will be able to play for everyone.
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i still dont get it why people are on lol so much.But let
s not get on it don`t wanna start a war or anything.
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Lol was the first one to be free to play after dota 1. It is different to hon and to dota. In Lol you can make spells do more damage or heal more or whatever the skill does. In dota and HoN you can't do that. Spells can only be boosted by items that drop magic defense. Some people may like this, but in my opionion (i invite any good lol player to came here and let me know I'm wrong) being able to customize your heroes tend to tear appart heroes making a support a carry because you boosted his fucking magical damage and you start nuking like a bitch. Also, Think that HoN wasn't free at the begining and well dota 2, will be free to play but you will need to wait. Sothen that's also another reason of why people play more lol than other games. I never saw a game making a tournament in its beta with 1 million dollar prize for the winner. I predict that the prize pool will be higher whith the pass of the time and this will bring a lot of pro players that plays LoL because the prize pool is bigger. That happened With "Chu" in HoN who changed to LoL becuase there was more money there.
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dota 2 is difficult for someone who is new to moba. especially if there is no tutorial. but with watching a lot of vids and enough practise you can get the hang of it. for me it took 24 hours of playtime before i could say I can now play to start enjoying the game. If you are not familiar with moba and don't want to invest some time with discovering on your own how to play, I would say don't play. but if you are okay with that, I would say give it a go.
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Indeed it is but they are adding a tutorial but for now the only way is self practice
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Since lots of ppl here clearly play Dota2 (steam just sent me an invite finially) ...
QUick question
When you complete games you get experience. Ive played 6 games and only have 176 out of 1000 exp pts. Its gonna take forever to level up to level 2 at this rate.
Am I missing something?
And once I do level up .. do I get anything?
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you don't get anything, i think they will use that for matchmaking.
Oh yeah other than one cosmetic item, but you prob will have collected a few of those by then.
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the cosmo item drops.. are they assigned randomly to someone in the match .. or is if based on something like best player of the round?
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If you level up your sure to get an item altho what items that`s random you might get a common item or a rare or a mythical.
You get more xp depending on how long is the match thats kinda meh but still. You also get random item drops i don
t know if it depends on you being good or bad.
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