is uncle SAM your friend?
I haven't heard about achievements with counters which wouldn't show on your achievement page, but for checking hidden descriptions you can use any of the popular achievement tracker websites like completionist.me or Astats
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I only use it to farm cards sometimes.
Anyway that 0.x% most of the time is probably fake. I remember that when Yaluza 0 came out, in the same day 0 4% of players had already the 100% achievement. In a 60+ hours game. Yeah right.
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Games are supposed to be played and enjoyed, not automated. Except for when they are Steam Summer Sale mouse-breaking clicker games.
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Wrong. Not all games are like that. Tons of asset-trash released recently clearly wasn't supposed to be enjoyed or even played.
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Which is why they weren't even supposed to be bought. Why would you buy something you don't wanna play?
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some buy it because easy achievement, and achievement=epenis.
https://steamcommunity.com/stats/604490/achievements/
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But achievements are called achievements because they're supposed to be achieved not automated.
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for profitz ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯.
also, buying games is not the only option. There are mass giveaways on gleam, etc.
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Achievements are overrated, and some games don't deserve their achievements unlocked even with SAM. I don't use SAM, but not because of the reasons above - I just don't care about achievements.
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I would say that achievements are mostly for you (seriously how often do you go to someone's steam profile and think "he got this rare achievement, he's so awesome), so let people screw with their accounts if that really makes them happy... but I guess SAM is a problem for your group. ;P
Although I don't really see the point of unlocking achievements with SAM (can't lie to yourself ¯_(ツ)_/¯ ), I think there should be more pressure put in fixing broken achievements before we can demonize SAM.
You can't really blame people for not sticking to the systems rules... when system is broken.
To this day I have a game on 99% because developers, instead of fixing or removing broken achievement, just posted some weird solution that works for some people and not for others. After hours spent on reinstalling game and moving files... SAM suddenly looks more attractive - especially since you know you deserved that freaking achievement.
I can live with game with 50% of achievements, but 99% always hurts...
There also should exist some rules regarding steam achievements.
Like "achievements can relate only to game you're playing". I can understand achievements for DLC but, I have game that gives you achievement for playing next game in series... that wasn't released yet (and maybe never will be).
Or achievement for backing game on Kickstarter
/o/ Congratulations! Here's an achievement for having enough money in the right time... You won't be able to fix it ever again and we don't car you were poor student at that time.
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Yea, I really hope such methods wouldn't exist... I'm an active achievement hunter and I know that people using SAM are usually banned from achievement related communities/websites if someone finds out about it, but it's still annoying when some other sites (and Steam itself) shows you totally inaccurate info about achievements...
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I don't have a problem with SAM, it's the achievement system itself, that raises my concerns. I don't like that Valve records my playing times and game process. Basically it's just spying disguised as a feature. I try to avoid those "features" by putting my Steam client in offline mode whenever possible. Call me paranoid, but "tell me what like to play, when you play it, how often and how much you're willing to grind for it and I can tell you who are". So if SAM messes up with their data collection by adding fake achievements, so be it. I just rather avoid achievements altogether.
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I sometimes use SAM to unlock glitched achievements, ones that I'm 100% sure I met the requirements yet the buggers stay locked. And like talgaby up there said, SAM is pretty useful for checking the requirements of hidden achievs. Much better than trying to randomly figure them out :)
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It won't reveal the description of the achievement until you unlock it. And without the description, the achievement name alone is often very obscure and confusing. It does show which achievements are hardest to get and give an indicating of how annoying to get they'll be.
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your well earned achievements, some of them even being owned by 0.3% of people or even lower which should make you feel good.
I feel like stopping doing achievements to show off and starting doing them as a personal goals will fix this problem - that will make you feel good no matter how many people cheated the achievement.
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People who demonize SAM are people who can't use it responsibly. Using SAM to unlock broken, glitched or no longer obtainable achievements is a completely legitimate reason to use it in my opinion. Even though my 100% profile might seem like I didn't, I have only ever used it for those achievements and have always been open about it. I don't see any reason why I should be punished for lazy developers who generally don't care about fixing their achievements.
Just because bad people use it to cheat doesn't mean it's a bad program.
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People frown upon SAM ( I think) because you CAN unlock any achievement with it. If you unlocked that broken one, that nobody can legit acquire - then who knows what else you used it for. Cheated on the rare item one, or the one that was challenging? Maybe you never ever played the game, just let it to idle and unlocked an achievement every half an hour?
To have a very benign example - imagine that you have a superpower to make anyone sneeze, and people know that you can do that. How many times would you accused that their sneezing was caused by you, only because you can do that?
I think the anti-SAM thing is somewhat similar, a bit paranoia-related, people even claiming that they don't know / use it, just to avoid the accusations and the paranoia-rounds.
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You have a valid point, but I personally don't care what others think about my achievements. Because I know that I got them legitimately and that's enough for me, if others want to believe I'm a cheater that's fine too. Whether someone gets their achievements legitimately or not doesn't affect me at all. I've gotten many of these "rare" achievements and there are few to none that ever impress me, most of the time they aren't very hard, they're just time consuming and most people, for good reason, just can't be bothered. I think there's something wrong with the people that need their validation through others from meaningless Steam achievements.
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Why you shouldn't use SAM ?
Because it can be detected years ago was that not possible, archivement cheat/hack are not allowed AND they punish people for using SAM.
So use it when you want risk your games... and need to cheat because you can't do it by yourself...
EDIT:
I reported, in the past, people for using SAM and so i know exactly that they punish people for using it ;o). Team Fortress 2 at 100% archievements in 70h... and such ones.
I know people at steam + sg that are archivement cheaters (yes the worst ones are on my BL :-D. Its a bit like a running gag with my BL).
EDIT 2:
I am (very) proud on the archievements i reached (when uncommon/rare) with my own skills. The cheaters/hackers are proud that there program "played" for them or what ? It's a sign of a weakling to be happy over anything that you don't reached by yourself.
To make it clear i don't speak from people that use it for unlocking a broken Archievement (but when enough made this, why should the dev fix it ?), i speak from people that get 100% in a few hours by games that other ones need 100's or 1000's of hours (and often not reach 100% -and that is ok because people are not perfect and they don't need a perfect archievement history....-).
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like in life in general there's people with integrity and there's scum.
and scum always looks for shortcuts and the easy way in & out.
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If it wasn't directed at him, maybe don't use the "reply" button? ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Still don't understand why bother with achievement
to show ppl You're really into the game that other ppl might not own?
I got 46/47 achievement from certain game and don't even want to complete the last achivement even though it's the easiest non-storyline achievement (fishing)
oh, wait, sorry. I live among pirates who doesn't know what's achievement
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I'm salty because I can't opt-out of being spammed by distracting notifications that I killed 50 bears or whatever. Couple times I toyed with idea to make my own launcher that will unlock every achievement of a game as I launch it, so that I get zero notifications, and then locks them again when I turn it off, but eh, effort
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learnt that SAM was a thing from Ravmaster, few months ago, here @SG.
you can google it, but i'd say is a piece of software that eats your steam activated games, unlocking achievements. you can 100% all games with it.
so, as a member here, learnt that you shouldn't treat my keys as very-very-dumb-bot-food. your SAM will not eat my keys, sounded fair to me.
yesterday was browsing destructoid and read this:
Why you shouldn't use SAM
at first, thought the guy wanted to say something like i've just said up here, but no. he has another point of view, more as a gamer, a good gamer that also cares for game development/developers:
and
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