The solution is simple if you think of the method of image charges here

First we have an image point charge q2 so we can make the potential of the sphere that comes from q1 and q2 equal to 0

But we have a charge qs on the sphere so in order the sphere to have the same potential we must place a point charge q3 on its center with

q2+q3=qs

the place of q2 is b=r0^2/d = 1 cm

and its charge is q2= - ro/d * q1= 1nC

so q3= 0.5 nC

so we have 3 point charges in P1(0,0,0) P2(3,0,0) P3(4,0,0)

the distances of each point charge from the point P(1,1,1) is :

r1= sqrt 3 cm

r2= sqrt 6 cm

r3= sqrt 11 cm

so the potential is calculated :

Φ= 1/4πεrε0 * (q1/r1 + q2/r2 + q3/r3) = -214,16 V ( well its -214,158 but i said round it a a little )

That's the solution

Only 1 solver though and not with enough contribution value :/

Original problem :


Welcome to an electromagnetic puzzle!I hope its the first here in steamgifts :)

The giveaway is Fable:The Lost Chapters game (contributor of $40 required).

The problem is :

In a x,y,z 3D space we have the point charge q1 placed in (0(cm),0(cm),0(cm)) with value q1= -2(nC). We also have a solid charged conducting sphere of radius r= 2 (cm) with qs= 1.5 (nC) and its center is in (4(cm),0(cm),0(cm)). The distance between the center of the sphere and q1 is d= 4 (cm). (nC stands for nano Coulomb and cm for centimeters)

You have to find the electric potential Φ in point P(1(cm),1(cm),1(cm)).

The permittivity οf the space is ε=2.5 and permittivity of air is the known constant ε0=8,854 * 10^-12 (F/m)

Here is a graph to help you with the puzzle :

graph

once you find the answer you place it here(plain number,round it up a little) and you get the link of the giveaway

Giveaway lasts for about a week from now!

So grab your pens and start solving some electromagnetic field math!

Have fun and dont hesitate to ask me anything :)

I hope the puzzle was understandable :)

EDIT: Of course leaking or sharing the giveaway is prohibited !

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Hint 1

In order to take a point charge in the center of the sphere(different than qs though) you have to "make" the potential Φ in the surface of the sphere equal to zero.

Hint 2

There is a certain METHOD that can help you a lot with the problem :)

Hint 3

The method is called "Method of image charges" and its a very easy! Check it out online and you can solve the puzzle easily

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bump

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bumps,more hints added :)

11 years ago
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fun! i'll try this when i get home even though i already own the game =/

11 years ago
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Cool! Sorry for not giving something more expensive :/

11 years ago
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It's all about the journey for me when it comes to physics/math puzzles!

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I'm just sad that he didn't give away Fable: The Journey so I could make an incredibly bad pun.

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Amusingly fitting avatar.

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Good call =)

11 years ago
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ooo this looks cool! Except I forgot everything I learned in Physics. :) Cheers!

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dont know if school physics can help you solve the problem. At least in my school we did not solve that kind of electromagnetic problems :P

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Either way, out of my league :P

11 years ago
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Nooo! I've forgotten about Physics!

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I thought I'd do it for fun like our friend Tesla up there, but only incorrect answers. :<

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Well if you know some laws and tricks of the electromagnetic field its rather easy,but I don't know if you've got that knowledge :)

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Unless this requires some evil integral/differential equations to be solved, I think I do. ...Or maybe everything I learned in my basic physics courses was a lie.

Should we be aware of any specific constant value approximation?

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Well no evil differential or integral is involved

Sorry forgot to mention that permittivity of air ε0= 8,854 * 10^-12 (F/m)

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Line integrals? Is the trick line integrals? Or maybe residues? It's residues, isn't it?

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"residues"

Stop giving him ideas, man!

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I'll see how the entries go and I will post hints :)

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I think it has something to do with the Green's Function involving the Laplacian, taking into account eigenvalue expansion and the correct Dirichlet boundary conditions (perhaps Neumann is involved as well). Although applying the complex analysis involved with meromorphic functions, using a Laurent expansion should allow residue calculation of an isolated singularity as long as the function is analytic. After slugging through the math, I believe the answer is 42

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Well, duh, it's always 42! Bump for solved!

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Oh god, I hate fields. :( I'll still give it a try later, thanks for the Physics puzzle!

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You should learn to love them,they are great :P

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(¬_¬)

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BTW, I got curious and decided to read some articles on the subject in hopes of, if not solving, then maybe understanding the puzzle :) We'll see if I succeed.

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That's the spirit!

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Ok, so I calculated each electric potential (from q1 to P and from Ps to P), summed them up and it's saying it's the wrong answer.

I've double-checked all the calculations, is there any special formatting or something?

Also, what's the point of distance "d" and permittivity of space? Unless there's something you forgot to tell, they're both useless.

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added on steam to chat :)

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I'm in the same boat as you. Maybe we're both wrong and insisting in the same or different mistakes, or maybe not. Nevertheless, the same boat.

11 years ago
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same...lets see if we discuss I might find a problem in the pronunciation of the puzzle

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same here i've tried it 2 times and came up with 2 anwsers i would like to join this chat pls, thank you kind sir

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had a talk with the lads,edited a little :)

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You obviously hate other people.

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I obviously love people because the solvers will be a few people so they will have more chances of winning :P

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Aaaah you devil, this would take 2 minutes if the sphere wasn't conductive. :P

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Its rather easy even with the conductive sphere! I will post hints if no one solves it :)

11 years ago
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Ohhhh Physics, so beautiful!
A shame I don't have enough contributor points, but I'll try anyway.

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What units do you want the answer in? Volts? And is qs short for surface charge? If so, should the units be nC/m, or is nC correct? Thanks! I'm doing plenty of research to work this puppy out. More like re-research as I should probably know it already.

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Also, how many places or decimals do you want the answer to? Solid whole number, one decimal, two decimals? Is there a negative sign or should we just make this absolute?

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Sorry my answer took so long

the answer is a plain number,though it is in volts, but just a plain number. Two decimals there but you have to round it up a little. If there is a negative sign you should put it.

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still no luck?

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Why didn't you make this in 2 months we still didn't do electromagnets, just finished with direct currents

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is the answer potato? If not I'm out.

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wow! magic skills there :P

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No solvers yet :/

Will add a final hint maybe a day before the giveaway closes is there are no entries by then

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Bump for solved. Thank you for the game and the puzzle: it is hard but satisfactory.

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First solver!!!! Congrats :)

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Hint 3

The method is called "Method of image charges" and its a very easy! Check it out online and you can solve the puzzle easily

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I feel like I'm a dumb.
May I show you my solution for this puzzle on steam chat?

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add me,though I am quite busy these days :)

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Solution posted :) NEXT TIME LADS NEXT TIME

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Closed 11 years ago by laharlgr.