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I asked Salz nicely to blacklist me as well without any insults whatsoever. He did what I asked him to do, but he also blocked me.
http://i.imgur.com/kJARyTj.png
Oh well, at least I got what I wanted for the most part.
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I don't understand one thing - if there's proof of all this then why does he/them/whatever have so many giveaways on SG and most of them are featured at the top of the page? Seems wrong if there really is proof of him/them conducting any kind of wrongdoings.
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Salz has a lot of contacts for indie developers and most of them just don't seem to care much about what he did. Doing massive giveaways here + Promoting games by partnering with big giveaway / curator groups = Better sales.
Salz already got banned from S.Companion and I can't thank enough the staff for actually doing the right decision and taking these threats (and other things he has done) seriously. People have asked Salz several times why he got banned from there but he has deleted the comments (I've seen them), meaning he is trying to hide the truth and his guilt, which I find absolutely disgusting.
Valve doesn't care much about stuff like this unless valve's staff are the ones being threatened.
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But I'm asking why the staff of this site, Steam Gifts, allows it. I'm not talking about Valve.
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Not directly but I think it's somewhat wrong that they can give away games here they obtained immorally lol.
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The problem lies with the developers who still trust the Duck.
As you probably have noticed, SG is very lenient with its members, and wont take actions unless someone violated the site rules, which is not the case, Salz might be without morals but aside for probably a few like this special case, most of those games where legitimately offered to him, from Developers who dont really care about the situation.
Just like Digital Homicide, he is still going to be around just as long as any of the rules arent broken
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Update for featured giveaways, hu? This reminded me of something... Bump
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Another lil BUMPPPP!!!!
This fascist piece of garbage is still sending his douche cronies to downvote other peoples' reviews. How is he not banned yet, and why are developers still giving him keys?
I'm going to Germany next year - should I pay him a visit? That's not a threat, I just want to sit down and have some tea with him.
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Why I have a feeling this conversation would look like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GqY-M5fE4 ?
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I also want to point out that it's particularly funny that he believes I'm close to a Steam ban.
Two things!
I also consider being called "he" and "Him" sexual harassment. (Just edited this post to shoehorn that in there :) )
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SalzStange IS THE WORST GUY THAT HAS BEEN BORN IN GERMANY
FUCK YOU SALZSTANGE
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Actually, Hitler wanted to do a good thing, CLEANING THIS SHITTY WORLD.
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Sad that you aren´t an Austrian or German... Just one thing. For me as a Austrian: WTF IS wrong with you? "CLEANING THIS SHITTY WORLD." So you are an anti-Semite? or what?
I know that some americans don´t understand how bad the Austrian/German or generally the European population suffered under the NSDAP... but just stop it...
And by the way: Now i understand your community ban.
Because a sentence like this one is violating the steam rules..^^^
And one thing: People like you usually go to jail in Austria for smth like this..
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I tasted a little fish when I saw all of the group giveaways, but I didn't know they tasted this salty.
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Still shocked Salz didn't get Discipline through punishment
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Have another bump. I was reminded about this stuff earlier tonight when I entered a giveaway that linked to all of these groups in the description. I didn't say anything since the guy was already saying he'd BL anyone who said thanks and I didn't want to make him mad.
Also, I clicked on one of the group links and was dismayed to see that 2 of my whitelist friends were members. :(
Both are nice people here on the forums, so I'm sure they're not malicious and only in it for gibs, which is fine, but still- idk if they know the backstory, and I'm not sure they'd take kindly to me telling them what groups they should be in.
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sadly most people don't care about backstories as long as there is free stuff to get :(
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You have all probably seen this group "network" at some point. They send out invites to everyone. They giveaway bundle games here in mass quantities as part of their recruitment. They also advertise giving away AAA titles to whoever invites the most people to their groups. Sadly those giveaways are rigged, as they are not done on SteamGifts, but rather in his group's forum, and no winners are chosen truly at random as the system here allows.
But that's not what I'm here to tell you about.
First, let me show you exactly what I am talking about, in case you are unfamiliar with the OTG Network.
Original Traders Group
Original Curators Group
Original Giveaway Group
German Giveaway Community
Original Society Club
Duck Society
The above 6 groups are what's known as the 'Original Network'. It originally started as just the top group. It's recently expanded unnecessarily into the other groups. You can do everything the 4 groups do with one group, after all. The groups are also all populated by the same people, so don't let the numbers fool you. The Original Society Club is for the most loyal of his followers, where he supposedly does non-bundle game giveaways. Duck Society is...I don't even.
They are all run by a lovely fellow named SalzStange. His username here on SteamGifts is AngryErpel.
Confirmed with SteamGifts Support that this is not calling out..
SalzStange was recently outted on Twitter for trying to blackmail a developer for a free Steam Key. This kind of activity has been known to occur in this "network" but was covered up by his loyalists. When things like this happened in the past, or someone wrote a negative review for a game SalzStange obtained keys for, he would ask his loyalists to downrate the hell out of the review, which they sadly did. According to other 'victims', his loyalists were also asked to harass people that did not agree with SalzStange's methods or people who called him out on his bullshit. It's safe to say some are blindly following him in the hopes of free games. This is, of course, unacceptable, and since this was brought public, some of his loyalists left the group. Namely a few (most) of his admins and even a co-founder. He now has a new set of followers and Admins/Mods, and they are still up to the same routine.
SalzStange thinks giving away games is charity, and refers to his groups as "the biggest charity groups on Steam".
Charity is helping people who are less fortunate (IE Homeless, starving, etc), donating clothes and food to homeless people, or volunteering at a shelter....things of that nature. Not giving away games to privileged people on SteamGifts. He lists hundreds of giveaways for bundle games and games he's received from devs here on SteamGifts. The bundle games he asks members to donate to him so he can give them away here or in his group's chat (this has been confirmed by many former members). Either way, he is unfairly benefiting from contributor value here on SteamGifts because of this. He is currently a LV 9 contributor here on SteamGifts.
There is a reddit thread where a lot of people have come forward to share their experiences with SalzStange and his groups. and there is also a NEOGAF thread.
Proof, evidence, chatlogs, examples of his behavior and other things.
Take a look at these and find out for yourself what kind of person SalzStange is. Don't listen to his long-winded excuses or lies he's posted here and elsewhere.
2706 line OTG Group Chat Log
Full email conversation - This is the 'unedited' screenshot SalzStange provided that he claims absolves him of all accusations. It, in fact, makes him look worse.
My experience with SalzStange and his group
Chat harassment
SalzStange's SteamRep Report
SalzStange's "apology" to the dev he blackmailed
SalzStange thinks there's no proof
Valve is at least aware of this situation
SalzStange thinks those "against" him are all trolls
SalzStange denies allegations concerning his rigged giveaways, which were already confirmed as true
SalzStange's official statement after he was caught
Former Mod's response to his 'official statement'
SalzStange's post history on the Steam forums. A great example of his attitude and how he talks to developers
OTG Head Admin is okay with SalzStange's actions.
SalzStange has been permanently banned from SteamCompanion.
SalzStange calls those who caught him and spread awareness of his lies 'troll' and 'haters'..
SteamCompanion Group Chatlog where SalzStange was invited to discuss his ban
If you are still a part of this "network" I advise you all to leave to avoid being dragged down with him. It will happen eventually. WGN got shut down for doing less than this.
If you would like to combat this network and it's practices, there are a number of things you can do.
If you are a member of any of their groups, or any of the groups that SalzStange associates with (Such as Hookups where he is an Admin), simply leave them. You can also share this thread with people on your friendslists who are members of these groups and advise them to leave as well.
TL;DR:
SalzStange threatened a dev, got caught, and is still trying to lie and cover up the facts, acting like he did nothing wrong.
He claims to be an adult, but is refusing to own up to his actions. Everything we do in life has consequences. It's time he faces them.
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