I've seen quite a few turks trading humble bundles for dota/tf2 keys at a low price (some trade for games too). Do they have cheaper regional pricing or what? (I asked a turkish trader - he said no) Anyone knows the reason why they can do this? I don't believe all of them purchase them through fraudulent means (stolen credit cards etc.)

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They probably do purchase through fraudulent means. Humble Bundle charges the exact same prices to anyone no matter where they are in the world. So how could they be selling at a loss? Well, they probably aren't. So trade with the people who have actually legitimate prices (1 key for non-BTA, 3-4 keys for BTA) if you don't want any risk

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I hope this is not too offensive but I am taught not to trust Turkish people. I know not all of them are bad but if I travel to Istanbul I would be really vigilant and cautious.

So those turks mentioned by you probably acquired a number of fraud credit cards and buy a lot of humble bundles for trading.

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I would be vigilant and cautious in any major city. Just like everywhere else, Istanbul is full of both wonderful people and opportunist cocks.

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+1000

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"I don't believe all of them purchase them through fraudulent means (stolen credit cards etc.)"

Sorry, but I can't think of a better explanation.

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Bitcoins or fraud - I have no other explanation.

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What about bitcoins? Please do pardon me for being uninformed about this matter.. But I heard that you can't request for a refund with bitcoin payments?

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OK, I don't think that I can explain it, but I'll try. It is true that some of the turkish people "do illegal" things. In which case I don't think that there are more that in any other nationality!
The humble prizes are the same to us too. If someone gets it for 6$ we also get them for 6$ (the currency in Turkish money chances!), also in which case I don't think that it's a good think to accuse people with "stolen goods".
I'd prefer to try to reach the ones who do that and ask in person!

Yes, I'm also turkish (In one way or another!) So for starters..:
If you ever wanna come to Türkiye (trying to go agains the shitty turkey joke!) I can reassue you that you'll have the time of your life without being vigiliant or cautios! True there are places where you shouldn't go but isn't that the same in the whole world?! I don't remember any friend of mine who came to Türkiye regretting it (still my friend went to amsterdam 2 weeks ago and they stole his backpack!)
What I wanna say is that don't accuse people before actually you know one of them. I personally had never any prblems with trading, giveaways or any other stuff. Maybe it's just me. But please guys don't acuse the people of a country only bases on a knowledge of "news"...

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This.

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+1 Humanity is evil

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but... but... martin luther king ?

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Sorry if my previous comment means any offense to you. My uncle went to Istanbul and got mugged, beaten there so it left a bad impression on him and he's quite a huge influence to me. Of course not everyone in city or a country is good or bad, it's just a psychological thing for me.

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I can accept that!
It's just that it's not a nice thing to here such things. What would you say if someone said the same thing about your people? ;)

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You sure he wasn't just too stoned to think of his backpack and forgot it? ^^

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+1. I've been to Turkey too, just not Istanbul, but Marmaris and I loved it. Turks are probably one of the best trader's people and due to this, they are extremely welcoming (most of them of course, but this is true for everything). Just be stubborn and you'll get everything much cheaper than the price written on the label :P

Even when they are neighbours and we don't like the country Turkey for a huge number of political reasons, I can't say anything bad about the people there. I have good friends who are turks and that fact doesn't stop me to value them as people.

As for getting robbed - when abroad, always stick to the group of people you travel with, especially at night (if you travel alone you'd best be a good mixture of all the action heroes of the 80s and 90s to be sure no harm can get you). Use common sense where to go and where not and keep your belongings safe and money spread on several places (pockets, bag, suitcase, why not a shoe if you must). A bag of a friend of mine was stolen in Russia and I still can't say anything bad about Russians as I've seen some of the most kind people just there.

Try to never judge a nation by some bad impression it left on you for whatever reason. It stops you from actually seeing the people as they are.

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Why, I'd never tartar you all with the same brush. I'm sure you're delightful. :)

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I guess it's reason. But i don't know explain that.

Only I say that ; it is a far cry from stolen credit card or similar thing. :)

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What do you think they do then?

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maybe not stolen credit card, but is it legal? surely that much you can say

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nice

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=> stolen credit cards

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They simply and utterly scam. They buy a lot of the bundle at first, then they trade with someone, and once the trade is complete they send the person the gift URL and after they had traded all their copies they just refund it from Humble Bundle and HB kindly refunds it to them meaning that the URL a given person has been gifted with is no longer accessible, its pathetic.

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I'm waiting for someone who actually experienced this to prove the theory is right.

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I experienced it. Take a look at this.

Message from HB support.

Also the guy who traded me deleted me about a day after the trade was done, I am guessing he ran out of keys. I also gave him minus REP on ST and someone else happened to suffer from the same scam.

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Search on steamrep. There are quite a few people who posted there about this scam. Also there were some threads on Steamtrades about this 1, 2. There was even a thread open just yesterday on steamgifts complaining about the scam.

Even CG has posted a thread advising people to be careful about this scam

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Turkey, Russia, China... the evil seems to be in the east... or the best proxies and the countries a lot of people who do illegal stuff tell you they are from knowing you will not think about sueing them because these countries have strange justice systems...

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Smooth way to be a racist.

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Agreed, but its true that its pretty much impossible (or pointless) to attempt to prosecute any of them from those regions. And hey, these humble bundles we're talking about ain't that expensive anyway.

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Strange justice system.... Yeah, occupying a country to bring democracy, detaining people on foreign soil so they have no rights, to bring freedom...

But if you go to the East long enough, everyone is to the East. So I guess it is true all evil sems to be in the East.

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"So I guess it is true all evil se(e)ms to be in the East."

You haven't experienced the world yet.

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I guess you haven't read my comment completely (yet)...

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+1

reading Fire In The Lake right now. Recommended. Its about vietnam but it still applies.

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That's racist! And you should feel ashamed of it! What would happen if you'd born one o these countries? Are "everybody" living there are like you think? I think not.

I wonder how many pages have you read of such countries (not from foxnews etc. lol, I mean real objective articles).

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Yea what's with all the racist hate on those whiteys in Russia and Turkey!??!

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What are you talking about? Prices are not like in Russia here. If you compare with a country, compare it with Brazil. Prices are more like theirs here.

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for full clarification: I'm a Turk currently living in Turkey. And this message is intended for every person who thinks he/she got clue about the whole world.

I have created 17 confirmed giveaways (16 received, 1 waiting for confirmation). Most of them was bundle leftovers, one of them is a price error (Sleeping Dogs), a few of them are spare copies of cheap bargains. It is disturbing to hear that, just because I'm from Turkey I'm probably a scammer.

But I'm OK with that. You know why? Because I know who I am, and I'm not a scam.

Let me tell you something that you do not know

  1. Turkish people does not wear fez hats. We do not eat children.
  2. Not all Russian women are not prostitutes, and definitely not all Russian men are hackers
  3. Not all Chinese/Korean/Japan/... people know Kung Fu/Karate/Taekwondo/...
  4. Europe is not a country where everybody speaks French (see related YouTube video)
  5. USA is not full of dumb and obese people (even my American friends think they are, but they are not).
  6. ...

this list goes on and on and on and on. There are scammers all around the world. Most of them uses and exploits inefficient systems (digital/social/financial/physical/legal). Unfortunately in Turkey, we are not strong on every front on this subject, so many scammers around the world uses this as an opportunity. I'm absolutely sure we have our share of scammers, but assuming all of us is.. well, that is pure racism.

One last thing, racist people do not consider them racist.

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Hello, I'm not particularly being racist or attacking/insulting turks as a whole. Its just that I noticed most of those trading humble bundles cheap are from turkey, and some person asked a guy if he got his bundle from a turk (that guy's bundle was revoked or something, its in another recent thread on steamgifts). I actually wanted to know if there's any possible exploit or benefit turks have in purchasing humble bundles which allow them to trade them out cheap. (And I didn't want to believe that everyone trading these bundles cheap got them through fraudulent means)

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  1. Turkey has never been a keen lover of Fez, but it has been very popular at times in marocco and among the greek community, especially cyprus, and has been worn by many armies, especially colonial ones, making it very prominent.
  2. Russia has a more prominent scene of prostitutes and hackers, russian women are known for their beauty, and most hacker forums and websites are russian.
  3. Martial Arts are part of the school cursus in many chinese schools and tai chi is present in all the main cities of what i call cultural china ( aka not counting xinjiang etc )
  4. French was the international and diplomatic language in europe for a while, after latin and before english.
  5. eeeeh yes it is.
  6. just trolling.
  7. turkey is awesome. srsly.
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I decided myself not to trade with turkish people anymore. One guy cancelled a trade after making me buy what he wanted, he got mad at me and he made 7 friends leave negative rep on my profile. I dont want that to happen again, since it is stopping me from doing trades

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I'm sure all people from Uruguay are very kind, nice and non-racist.

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I see what you did there.

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Not every Turks are like what you think, you know?

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I am a Turk but there isn't any discount so just don't trade with 'em.

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I am Turkish and no there been any regional discount ever on HB or similar.

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Guys, check out rep counters, not nationalities ;)

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Just never trust me . I am scam king . it is a lifestyle choice . Respect or get scammed.

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Anybody reading the above statement by OsManiac, you have just been scammed.

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i am from turkey but i have no idea what the heck is going on.

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regional hotspot for scams/fraud similar to Russia. Many people are reporting losing their bundles they traded for right now, because they were originally obtained with credit card fraud.

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Lots of people seem to feel they are being accused, when they have done nothing wrong. Closing this.

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Closed 11 years ago by Vindictive.