Was your key also revoked?
You missed the part where apparently the "dev" removed the game from the download earlier this month. (Which may be why the game got removed from the store to begin with)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=960770762
https://steamdb.info/sub/105201/history/
Edit: While I'm updating, worth noting the depots have been re-instated.
But hey, this "dev" is just another asset flipper who was bribing his way through Greenlight by promising keys for votes anyway:
<links redacted at moderator's request>
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Yea i've missed that part. At least one less not even a real "game" in my library :D
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- The keys is something I can't confirm. That seems to be focused mostly on dealings between the developer and the "Who's gaming now" website/group. But I don't know the full details, and the clearest explanation the dev gives is "Keys were leaked by a member. I didn't sell the keys elsewhere. As result banning the keys"
(From the ongoing thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/473900/discussions/1/1368380934276665796/)
Speculation:
A likely timeline on what happened is that Dev. handed out keys for promo purposes, those keys ended up on grey market reseller sites (which should be absolutely no surprise, as there's enough folk who try to turn any promo giveaway into personal profit that way), Dev. saw them there, didn't like that and revoked the lot.
- Regarding the changes in depots, If publishing a new version should also include adding of new depots for that new version. That didn't happen. As things stand now, anyone who still has the game in his/her library can't download a working copy.
Don't know if that is intentional or not, but it is bad form either way.
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Question though:
On what do you base your statement that these are "beta" keys to begin with ?
I can't find evidence that this game ever had a beta program for which keys were handed out, but I may be missing something.
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Have you seen the links with proofs that it was the developer who promised and gave the keys to people in exchange for greenlight votes? Right here on Steamgifts... Also WGN owner confirmed he got the keys that were given away there directly from that same developer as a compensation for some work he's done.
Reddit link shows this dev already removed all the depots a year ago, but these changes were later reversed by Valve. Will probably be this time too.
There's no proof whatsoever that any of these keys in mention are beta keys. If you have some, please provide it, as you are the only person on the internet who claimed that revoked keys are "yellow", not even developer mentioned that.
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- Never had the game, so no key to confirm anything.
- Even if true, that means that dev intentionally gave people beta keys with plan to revoke them latter after promising them retail keys, makes this even more sinister as they planned it all along few years ago.
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Why are you talking as if you know what you're talking about? I already admitted keys could be "yellow" as you said, wherever you got that info. I don't know. No one else has any info on that. How are you in possession of this information?
And as I said, even if it's true, giving people beta keys with a plan to revoke them a year or so later without telling them these are beta keys is fucked up. And why the dev didn't say "oh guys I gave you beta keys and beta is over". No, you can see their claim that all the keys are leaked by team member, and since they are the one who gave the keys to people... was the member using their steam account too?
That said, this dev deleted all the depots for their game. So even people who bought it on steam can't download and play it. And it's not the first time, they did that a year ago, got caught and Valve restored the game to original state. What does that have to do with "illegally acquired or leaked keys"?
And no, I don't want any dev to be the bad guy, and I'd be the happiest if "digital suicide" and other affairs never happened (and I mean happened, not "discovered") because that would mean the world is a much better place than it apparently is.
With that, I'll stop posting here before you accuse me of having anything personal against you next. Stay well.
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I'm calm, why do you think otherwise? I mean I know it's just text, but come on, stop assuming things please. And I haven't deny that what you're saying is (potentially) right. Feel free to read again. I simply asked you about this beta/yellow keys, several times, and you always skipped to answer. I even said I don't know...
Yes I see your response below now. That's a nice clue to have. Still makes things shady, but yes it's kind of different from revoking retail keys (the reason I didn't even think of beta keys is because of what dev said themselves on steam about revoked keys being from re-seller stores and users said it's not true but they got it from him or on WGN).
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Yes, that's true about beta keys not being meant for sale.
And as for your feeling, I'm not a native speaker and apparently sometimes can "sound" too direct/open/aggressive, as I've been told before. Might also be a cultural thing of sorts.
Assuming all of these keys were beta keys... the question remains, did the developer, when he gave these keys to users here on steamgifts and WGN, and also other places where he distributed them, told anyone about them being beta keys and was that part of the deal, or were they all expecting/thinking those are regular retail keys.
I'll try to be as clear as I can here.
- If they were retail keys, and not stolen but dev simply changed mind... it's messed up.
I think we can both agree on this. But what I'm saying, while agreeing with you that they might as well be beta keys and I don't know that for sure is this...
- If they were beta keys - and no one knew about it but dev - it means he had the right to revoke them as you say, but it's still messed up on an entirely different level.
Because giving people beta keys that you plan to revoke one days without telling them that keys are not beta keys is some really nasty sh... Specially if he gave beta keys to a 3rd party like WGN and didn't make it clear so they can make it clear to end users.
There's also the option you're always mentioning, and I assume it would be
- Dev gave beta keys and informed 3rd party of those keys being for beta only, in which case it's not dev's fault at all, but the 3rd party who didn't inform the end users of keys being for beta and giving/selling them away.
This would be less damaging to devs reputation, but it's still a weird situation, and doesn't explain why the dev said "a member leaked keys" and "they are bought outside steam store so they are banned" and not simply something about beta and so on.
In the end, we can all just assume things based on some facts and hear-say we have access to. You know about your key, but can't be sure for all keys. I know what I've read and seen about devs really shady behavior in the past. Valve doesn't work as it's weekend. I'm sure they will investigate this comes Monday and I'm sure they can see for sure what kind of keys were revoked and everything else, so unless other users can confirm after checking their keys... we won't know what sort of a mess this really is... but it's a mess nevertheless I think.
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Don't know if that is intentional or not
It's probably an intentional action for the developer to hide the game's content from its owners. Furthermore, this exact same thing happened last year as well although it got reverted.
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Keys bought from♥♥♥♥♥or from other re-sellers have been banned as the game has been not bought from Steam Store.
wtf???
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Apparently keys from grey market sites, G2A and kinguin among others, I guess, have been all revoked. Or does it include legitimate sites? Where did you get the game?
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My key came direct from the dev and that's been revoked as well.
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People say it includes WGN too, which is legitimate promotions website. Basically, dev gave the keys (probably to get some Greenlight votes or whatever at the time) and then removed all keys "because they are not bought on steam" which is a very ridiculous reason because the exact purpose of the keys is to get the game outside of steam for steam.
I didn't have the game, just read the discussion on the forums.
also, if you google a bit, the same dev did similar/same thing a year ago, according to reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/4khdsx/posted_some_normal_screenshots_about_a_game_that/
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Mine got revoked too, it was a WGN key and they were given by the dev for Greenlight votes.
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Shady dev has scammed all participants of the process :-D
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I think that this dev will score high on the shady dev list because of making sure that people can't play his game anymore because the download of the game doesn't work anymore. Now he removes games that were activated with WGN keys and that came directly from the dev and NOT from grey markets.
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Yep... [removed]...Gave free keys, removed all keys, scummy move.
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I had thought the dev was just punishing G2A and others. My mistake. The dev is a dick
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It includes all keys, doesn't matter whether it was from grey market or legitimate sites, such as WGN. I've got mine from WGN, so it shouldn't be revoked, but it was ;(
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Jep, all keys.
Carlmundo (WGN) already confirmed, that he got the keys directly from the Dev as payment for some work he did...
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I think i also got my key through WGN and i believe the key said march or may 2016, so it took a pretty long time to have changed his mind.
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Mine was a WGN key too and it got also revoked.
Clearly the dev has gotten out of the wrong side of the bed today.
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Nah, he's been planning this move for days now.
Dev also removed again files from everyone who bought from Steam about 12 days ago, this is after Valve has once restored those after he previously removed them. (even from steam store buyers).
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Steam store buyers also??? That dev is certainly the pick of the litter. :X
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Well, he can't revoke from steam store buyers, so he just removed access to files, removed all depots and added new empty depots (depots are what actually contain files), maybe to make it as hard as possible to restore access.
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In thirteen years on Steam I have seen a lot but nothing like this/him.
If you buy something on the Steam store then it should remain in your account and downloadable whenever you want, period. I wonder what Valve's reaction would be if and when they know this?
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That's not as bad as Digital Homicide actively trying to sue people for honestly saying their games were terrible, but this very well might be the second worst thing I've ever seen a dev do.
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lol, he also hacked the achievements for the
https://steamcommunity.com/id/TheBuckyBarnes/stats/390910/achievements/
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Nonono,
it's completly normal, that you get "walk 1,5 and 10km" in the same second.
Could be playing offlinemode and then going back online. Am not sure, but should look the same. Not sure if 3.6h are enough for that game.
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I think offline achievements might show without date, could be wrong I don't really spend too much attention to those.
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They show the date when you logged online and they were added—assuming they can unlock from offline mode (many games just never unlock them without internet connection). This is why achievement tracking is actually never always foolproof and why sites like astats never really work as intended if the player tends to use offline mode.
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He already got tagged for suspected achievement hacks in AStats. There is no way he plays offline for such many games in such a short period.
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my adventure in clicking
"what the hell... where'd my game go?"
(first part alternate attached if removed, like everything else)
hey! well what type of game dev you are anyway
Hrm, I wonder... do you... do you come here too?
Hahahahaha, of fucking course.
Last Online: Online Now
Registered: 1 year ago
Comments: 25
Giveaways Entered: 31,805
Gifts Won: 63 ($456.38)
Gifts Sent: 0 ($0.00)
Ratio: 0
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Agreed, especially since he's not given anything away in return. Very selfish behavior in my opinion.
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You, too. Fix your post and consider this your warning.
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Not quite sure what the issue is here. I'm assuming it was the last word "jk" you didn't approve of, buy that confuses me, because lower in the thread, there's the word "ahole" from a day ago which you haven't responded to, so I'm very confused. Anyways, I've edited to replace the last word of my original statement with, "behavior in my opinion" and I can't imagine anyone would disagree with that. Developer or not, it takes some serious commitment to join over 31,000 giveaways in a year, and to not create any in return? Well, that's something, a whole new level of "special" in my book. Take care.
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And yet it isn't your place to police a user or go over his or her failings in detail in the public forum. Your first tip-off should have been the warning I gave to the people to whom you responded.
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That's a nice can of worms you've opened up, there.... Now, we have to hope that nobody is foolish enough to comment on whatever dirt may have been dug up on him. (Too late.)
In the meantime, take a warning and delete the stats.
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By request https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Jrqp53atw
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I wish people wouldn't make level 0 public giveaways.
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The point of the site is to provide bot accounts with games to farm cards with?
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The point of the site is to gift Steam games to strangers in equal-chance raffles. Any restriction just starts to go against this philosophy, even if the site is full of bot accounts now. But level restrictions are not the answer for that. A captcha system would be.
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You set level restrictions on many of your giveaways. Am I missing some logic here?
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Many? o_0 Almost 84% of my giveaways are level 0, and most of the levelled ones were part of a level-climbing series, many of which were part of one of my social experiments.
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Cool stats! I only checked your first page and saw quite a few. I'm not sure I agree with you regarding the purpose of the site, and given the number of non-level 0 giveaways by other users, it seems many people have other views on it as well.
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Looking at the small number of comments, i sense this one isn't interested in discussing with us either
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Are you just spamming at random? Or cant i say a someone is not very talkative
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No, I'm going through the thread, one post and a time, trying to steer people away from getting hammered. Do you have an issue with that? If you had actually crossed the line, you would already be aware of it.
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you would already be aware of it.
i would prefer that.
i've managed staying away from trouble on my own for quite a few years now, and it beats having to read someone elses passive aggressive warnings
but you know, it's all good, i didn't mean to come off like that, i just wondered what exactly in this comment gave you an indication that it would escalate to something more.
He did post his version on the game page, so, i think i got what i wanted anyway
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He did post his version on the game page, so, i think i got what i wanted anyway
Cool. I just didn't want you to drift into "calling out" the way some other people in this thread did. Pretty much everyone has adjusted their posts, by now, so as to keep things civil.
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Yet when an op with a subject calling him scumbag and other people calling this guy all sorts of names (blatant scammer and asshole just below here, to someone that isn't even here to defend himself) are okay?
Because on one hand you can't say bad things about him, yet on the other you can.
Any other thread would already have been closed but just because of personal preference to show the information what this person has done (and not to create more uproar), it remains open, (again) a bit doublesided of staff.
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Verbal abuse is allowed to a degree, but "calling out" is not. It is the fact that the former moves quite easily toward the latter which prompted the caution, although there are other ways to get oneself into trouble. The thread remains open because of its function as a PSA and because the information contained within it continues to be updated.
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"Scumbag (in an subject title!)" "Asshole" "Blatant scammer" that's a mighty high degree then (and basically with that you're saying it's allowed to say it, since noone got warned for that).
Any other similar thread with such insults without a "warning message about a scam" would have been long closed.
Also while you made everyone remove their links, op still clearly shows links, that shows the profile of said person, it's easy to go from there to find his steamgifts profile. yet why isn't that calling out?
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... that's a mighty high degree then ...
You have been combative, rude, and disrespecting to a Mod (i.e. me), and yet I have not suspended you. That should be ample evidence of what I told you. While I have a high tolerance for being abused, however, I am not the only Mod who reads the forum. Others may react differently.
Also while you made everyone remove their links, op still clearly shows links...
The OP has been edited. If people want to dig for information on their own time, that's their business. Just don't dump that information here on SG.
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Excuse me, don't paint me of as the bad guy here, go open the one standing ticket and look clearly at the imgur screenshot link i posted there and tell here honestly who has been rude and who kept civil, i believe it was the other way around isn't it?
A mod that called me all sorts of names and insults (and to others too), while i never said 1 bad word (i been a mod at some other place, i know you need to stay cool, and he didn't, he completely lost it), be perfectly honest here.
And you guys just brush it off "because it happened on a steam profile and not here", it's a bastion among staff.
Almost tempting to post that link to show i wasn't the one in the wrong, regardless i would get suspended for it.
You are now exactly the one, blaming others for the same, calling me out too on things!
So if someone reads along? I am not doing anything wrong, i just ask questions, same as for example Mully, that also repeatedly got suspended for doing the same, am i rude or disrepectful here? Didn't think so.
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No names so no calling out, and nothing edited out.
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I've changed the title of the discussion. I admit i've got a bit too emotional and i should't have called anyone like that. Hopefully now this thread can stay open to discussion without calling anyone out and contain any new information about the whole case.
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lol, nothing edited out but you don't even include your original post.
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Because it was only something in the lines of can i add you / ask you and discussion things, thus didn't found it important at the time to add it (and if i still that message (i only got this picture still through the ticket), i would have added it still, got nothing to hide). Nothing in between is edited out nor changed.
Still i did not use one swear word or been hostile (unlike the certain staff member) not in a post before that either, and you be lieing if you said i did, and there are more support members here that lost their cool from time to time.
You really don't want to drag things out further here, right?
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You really don't want to drag things out further here, right?
Well you're the one who brought this up. It's really inconvenient you don't have the original message, to me it seems like you posted shit on a moderator's profile (instead of waiting for a reply on your ticket like any normal user would do) and expected them to take it down their throat with a smile, but I guess we'll never know.
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Ehrm no, Khalaq brought it up, calling me out on it.
You really know very well what was written and what not, or you really have some of memory loss problem now?
Most will know by now, as i said, it's a bastion on support level and everyone is just covering eachother, the ticket was just passed around from one to the other and as i said because it happened on a steam profile instead of here it was all fine to staff, just like you are covering eachother with Khalaq now.
Even another staff member here having said in his own thread, as a "joke" (only said later) for people to go f themselves, but since it's staff and "a joke" it was all okay.
I wanted that support member in my situation, to have a cool down of 2 days suspension, i had the text up for 2 days, but since some support tickets are laid aside for years (on purpose) i didn't want that actual shit that support member posted on my profile any longer, because it was so vile and that in a time around christmas.
Not to mention how rude one of the very first support member here could be in the beginning, it was all looked away too.
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You have been combative, rude, and disrespecting to a Mod, and yet have not been suspended.
Ironic, considering the nature of your warnings to others in this very thread.
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I'm not sure which is more ironic, the nature of your warnings and your subsequent comments to Lugum, or that you used an example of a moderator abusing another user on their Steam profile as your example.
No worries. I'll flip a coin.
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... or that you used an example of a moderator abusing another user on their Steam profile as your example.
... I have made no references, nor provided any examples, beyond my exchange with Lugum in this thread. I guess I wasn't clear about that?
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Forum wise, I am mostly here for the jigidi thread still (plenty of people that already got scared away completely), i haven't had any "run in" with any staff member beside the one insinuated, and don't pretend it wasn't the situation we are talking about.
You insinuated and also called out by having said "You have been combative, rude, and disrespecting to a Mod".
Because you pointed a finger (beside giving even an explanation or not, it does not matter) with that you drag an issue (with another staff member) and ticket publically here (as a staff member fcol) and while you policing everyone here in this thread about it, ironic.
Do you really think everything that happens here, just stays here, really?
I suggest we drop it here.
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I was referring to the interchange between you and me in this very thread, Nothing more, nothing less. To be frank, I was unaware of the information you brought up until you posted it. (I read it afterward, of course.) But I am perfectly fine with dropping this.
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Not sure if this is trying to get back out of a potential having called out, because i find that a bit nonsense to be honest because i was never rude or disrespectful against you, i never said 1 bad word, let alone a swear word nor did i even try to waylay anything you said or you motives, i just questioned a few things. But whatever.
I am dropping it here, now.
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If you knew me at all, you would know I don't lie. I have yet to meet someone who is more honest and open than I am.
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I don't know you, true, and we could say anything here (both of us) on the internet.
Well maybe you would find that in me, having been bullied all my life through school i wish i opened up back then, as i can do sometimes now, and i would never lie either, i actually hate it if someone else does.
Even if you did not lie about it, i grant you that, but i still say again, i was not disrepectful, rude etc and it was still a comment out of place.
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If you wish to know why/how I found your comments disrespectful, et cetera, I'm willing to discuss it on Steam chat. Otherwise, I think your suggestion to drop the matter is still best.
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it's ok to call out... when it's allowed to call out, didn't you know?
this thread and the "worst reviewer" one are enough proof.
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He should be reported as a blatant scammer in Steam too, that was ridiculous scam though
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So first we had Digital Homicide, and now Digital Suicide?
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Yep, it's a career-killing move for sure. The gaming community can be fiercely loyal, but it also holds a grudge like nobody's business. It has a long memory. I'll never have anything to do with this dev's games, promotions, campaigns, or otherwise. I'm sure others feel the same, so yeah, he's done.
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It would seriously hurt me on the inside if I was one that provided such assets via the asset store, just to constantly see my work getting dragged through the mud over and over again. Money and all that aside, you gotta have some pride ;x.
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Items: [106047, Oath of Genesis]
But I don't get from your other comment, why that should be a beta key.
And it doesn't change the fact, that the dev is a fraudulent moron.
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Ok, so 3 of the 4 availiable packages for that game are beta keys then.?
That makes it even worse.
Assuming Carlmundo tells the truth and no reason to not do that he got these keys as ?payment? or reward for some work. Depending on what they agreed before, thats just plain theft.
Really thrilled for his statement.
PS: I think WGN had 2 batches. One a while ago for voting.? and one for IdleArmy. The "got it for work" is most likely only true for the later patch.
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Yes, the keys were a form of payment. We never offered keys for votes (and haven't done that in a LONG time). Keval promised that on this forum.
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Btw: If a beta gets disabled, doesn't it just vanish?
Only the "problem with payment" gives an account alert, as far as my experience shows.
So he didn't disabled the beta, he revoked the keys. Big difference.
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well even store package keys from Carl were revoked, so it doesn't matter if you got that or press package.
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I bought this game on Steam store, what do you want to know?
] licenses_for_app 473900
License packageID 105201:
- State : Active( flags 512 ) - Purchased : Wed May 18 16:37:02 2016 in "US", Credit Card
- Apps : 473900, (1 in total)
- Depots : (0 in total)And what do you mean by "sharing" a store package key?
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I might have it somewhere.
Funnily, Family share doesn't revoke (until next reconnect, I assume), so since dev restored depots I'm back to having access. :D
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because one party might say one thing the other something else
Well, if one party is a trustworthy guy that has proven reliability once in a while and the othe rparty ist some moron (judginf from his posts) an removes the depots of his game once in a year and bans people for criticism.
Then... No, I don't relly need a screen.
It's like a (200/0) and a (5/20) rep person argue about who scammed who and noone made screens.
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The game depots are removed like over 10 days ago but it's not until now that I noticed it.
The best you can do for now if you own the game is to submit a Steam Support ticket describing the situation about the removing game depots issue and hopefully someone from Valve would review this. I already did this but it shall take a while to get a response.
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Interesting. He practically admits fraud and breaching every known consumer and commercial law. Of course he lives in a country where he will never be sued for that (since they would pretty much have to jail the entire population if they really prosecuted fraud and misleading business behaviour), but funny to see what some people think they can do in international dealings.
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Afaik you are completely wrong. By agreeing to steam terms of service you acknowledge that you are not buying games to own indefinitely, rather "renting" licenses that can be revoked at valve's (and probably developers) discretion.
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Crossposted from the steam community forums here because the "developer" will surely delete it in due time.
Some people wanted help on how to contact steam support about this, here is help on that:
[HELP] Game removed - How to contact steam support
The developer removed this game fradulently from many accounts today.
If you are affected, please read below and contact steam support.
Here is a step by step guide how to properly report this issue to steam support & a template to paste into the text field:
- go to the support site: https://help.steampowered.com/en/
- Select games and paste " Oath of Genesis " into the searchfield
- select the game in the next step, it will list that the game has been in your libary and that the key was revoked.
- select "It's not in my library" ( not "trouble with key" or "key revoked", steam does not let you create a ticket with these)
- select "Contact Steam Support" and fill out the textfield.
Here is a template that you can adapt to your wishes to paste in:
I got the key for this "game" from a giveaway last year. The giveaway was sponsored directly by the "developer" of this "game" and he provided the keys for it.
The "developer" has a history of misconduct on steam and the whole "game" was nothing but an asset flip and a scam. It was removed from steam.
Now today, this shady "developer" has taken steps to erase all traces of his "game" and his former misconduct on steam. He has removed all retail keys that he could remove, legitimatly given out or not. My key included.
This is theft. This can not happen on steam.
I want the actions of this shady "developer" undone and my key and the "game" restored to my steam libary.
Note that the "developer" is also banning people and deleting threads in the "game´s" community hub to hide the facts and what is happening.
I hope that helps you guys, now go and make a ticket.
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There's a guy on the forum for this game willing to sell it for 500 keys if you want this shitty game :P
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Just as a scumbag as dev.
Found him and blacklisted him (seems the giveaways he done were probably through asking devs too anyway).
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What guy? The developer's profile page has already been pointed out in the above posts.
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Your CD Key for this game has been revoked by the game publisher. This can happen when a batch of keys are stolen, or perhaps the key was for a beta game that has shipped and you'll need to purchase it.
You should contact whoever sold you the key for further assistance.
Steam Support
Julia
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That's the canned response they give to everyone. I suggest everyone presses on until they get a real human being to answer.
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damn, my free key i got just to +1 my library got removed, this is outrageous!
i demand compensation in the form of a $500 steam card and having the developer jailed for 30 years!
don't play with my +1s!
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No, that's ridiculous.
He should just be hanged by his balls, covered with honey and open a beehive near him.
Neglecting the whole asset flipping part though and it's still a rotten move, doesn't matter if it's free or not.
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Is this something to be mad about really? most of you guys got it for free anyways,and it was a shit game in the first place... i don't think people bought this game and if they did,it was a scam even when it was playable,now it's just been made officially a scam :P
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New official excuse by the dev:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/473900/discussions/1/1368380934280361478/
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He complains about Carlmundo selling his keys somewhere else, but as I know it's a common practice for those "game promoters", they taking 50% of keys for promotion in Greenlight and 50% for reselling, for example. And dev preferred to revoke 50% of our keys and 50% of the rest later.
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I believe it's about some of the people that got a key from him sold them, not Carlmundo himself.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/327680/Grind_Zones/ this is same game I believe :P
I doubt anyone has played it.
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Used to be same game but not anymore, since Grind Zones now flip another set of assets.
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check my previous post in the Removed Game Challenge
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/XkOFcEq
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It's about the principle.
I paid for my key. Not much, but anyways, I paid.
Revoking it unjustified is just scamming.
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It seems the keys were given for free and not authorized to be sold. So your issue should be with whomever you bought it from. Why not ask for a refund from were you bought the game?
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I "bought" it from Carlmundos idlearmy. So basically paid for it with my time and cards (on average thats ~0.5$).
But it mostly depends on what Carlmundo and the Dev agreed on.
PS: After the statement thread from the Dev it just seems he's a kid/teen that got pissed, that some people sell keys on G2A and totally overreacted. He claimed it's all Carl keys, but Carl mentioned the game being sold before he even got his keys.
I guess it's just as always. Some people got their free key (for vote) and later from Carl and just sold it.
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See above +
Well I always get pissed, when a game gets removed. Not gonna lie, wasn't more than a +1 for me either
But if it's somewhat justified (all [leaked] keys from a mass GA / a key from G2Shit (not buing there, but got some keys from trader, I was (after revokation) informed about the origin), I either write it of (GA) or get my money back/replacement key.
This case is a bit special, because idling a game for someone is basically free, but you pay with your time. Or with the cards from the game, depending on your viewpoint.
Additionaly the Dev seems a bit ... unexperience and it just pisses me of, if people do not think before they do irreversible actions. And if it were something novel like DLC-Quest or so I could understand the Dev... but this Assetflip and the History of banning people / removing depots just leaves a really bitter taste. Despite being a teen this Dev needs to learn some manners and buisness behaivior.
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So basically i woke up today and saw this message.
Apparently i'm not alone and all of the keys for this game got revoked. It doesn't matter from which source you got it. For me it is just a dick move. Too bad this game isn't on steam store anymore, so i can't report it. :( I guess there's not much i can do about this situation other than just sit in a corner of my room and cry, cause of -1 to my library. :(
EDIT: Official response by the dev
EDITx2: NEW OFFICIAL RESPONSE BY THE DEV: link
His talking to valve about reactivating those redeemed keys. Only time will tell if it's another lie or truth. Can't judge right now, at least he sees his mistake.
SidAlphas video about the topic: link
ALSO GUYS, REMEMBER: While it is important for people to be aware, DO NOT make this a witch hunt. Remember the punishment for "calling out" and resist the urge to post attacks on individuals.
I've changed the title of the discussion. I admit i've got a bit too emotional and i should't have called anyone like that.
The game is back in the library for everyone that had it already. The topic will remain open for 2/3 days and after that i will close it, as there is no point in keeping it open.
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