CLASHBOWL
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2068050/CLASHBOWL/
Price change from 1 euro to 40 euro...
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Drag and Drop
current price 39,99€
lowest 0,59€ at -40%
ZAVOD
current price 38,99€
lowest 3,39€ at -15%
Crispy Puppy
current price 29,99€
lowest 0,59€ at -40%
Computer Cats
current price 34,99€
lowest 0,99€ (regular)
Probably others from this studio bundle with current price 181,16€ at -50%, and lowest 2,17€.
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Fly Fly Tuk Tuk
Current best:
194,99€
at Steam
Historical low:
0,25€
-72% at Steam 12/23/2022
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There has been a lot of new additions here. Anyone knows when these will be 0 CV?
Can that process be sped up?
Is there anything we can do systematically about these games?
Eg any game that has a price hike of more 200% within certain period of time gets reviewed or sg?
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I suspect support members may watch this thread for user reports, but I am not positive. I think the official way to report the games is to file a support ticket under the category "Add game to list", but if you look at the stats page for support, you can see that they currently have 157 tickets open in that category.
There are so many of these games being created, it is probably overwhelming the support members that choose to volunteer their time. I am grateful that they are helping, but I feel bad for them because I would not have the motivation to try and stay on top of this neverending problem.
Some sort of automated system to identify and flag games for review would definitely help, but it has been suggested many times and hasn't been implemented, so I feel like it isn't being worked on.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2207080/
Stolen Dolls
Historical low:
0,59€
-40% at Steam 21.11.2022
Price now: 29,99€
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All Games by seel35games
Prices changed from $1.00 to $60.00
List of the games:
Arena Chaos
AdvLite
Reach the Hilltop
Unrushed Defence
Chick Rage
Military Division
Strong Protection
Mountain Parkour
Foxventures
Magic Corgi
Tasty Defense
Logic and Candy
City of Scary Zombies
Dotgeon
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Most of these still give full CV. Same goes for the games by this publisher:
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?publisher=didlstudio
For two of these some giveaways just popped up.
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I think this one can be added to the list too: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2260420/Mushroom_Agent/
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hell yes
And the other "Ready to Play" games -- World of Barn and School Trip also at AAA prices, and really any of the other ones should be premptively nuked as from an abusive crapware developer/publisher.
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https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/ihUhv/knight-story or better yet all the asset flips in this bundle https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/29078/November_2022/
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https://store.steampowered.com/franchise/atomicfabrik a bunch of the games on here are way over priced and I wouldn't be surprised if prices on some haven't been increase with other to be increased later.
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Add
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2085510/Fly_Fly_Tuk_Tuk/
Currently $199, lowest price USD $0.27
https://steamdb.info/app/2085510/
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https://store.steampowered.com/search/?developer=KOA%20BOA. Another bunch to add to the list
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no idea why says it's the much more reasonable price of £3.36 for me
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No one is paying that. He took the Snooker 3D template from the Unity Asset Store and put it on Steam and named it "Ero Snooker".
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/templates/packs/snooker-3d-138136
This guy jacks prices up to try to farm CV. He makes a ton of shit games on his horrible shit game engine or he'll do it with things he gets on different stores like what he did with the Snooker template.
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https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/CE3PQ/hidden-post-apocalyptic-2-top-down-3d
message from gifter after I blacklisted the person.
I'm not farming anything, but I'm giving the keys to all. I was given 3 pieces, 2 I added to GA. 1 registered to my account. I have not violated anything and for me all games are games. I am a collector of any games in Steam. Trash delisted indie AAA no matter. But thanks for adding me to the blacklist. I don't want inadequate personalities to be friends with me.
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My comment has zero to do with people who make the GAs, it's about the "dev".
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they are not making anymore in steamgifts to farm cv because they know that all the mods are watching and they will set them to 0cv..
I'm referring to the "devs" who make the games. And yes there are "devs", if that's what you want to call them that do jack their prices up for CV purposes.
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solid members of old groups are forced to make giveaways with good games just to keep their groups values out of the red zone....
In my opinion group owners/admins who use value difference should not allow those games to be used.
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I do care about this type of issue, I'm someone who regularly reports these types of games.
Long before I decided to make a GA group not only was I member of a couple of groups that use value difference I was also an admin in one and a mod in another so I do understand how frustrating this type of thing can be if you are in those groups. Unfortunately what those groups are dealing with now is an extreme version of a smaller problem that's been going on for a long time.
As far as your ticket, it's been read by some of the support team, but a response hasn't been made yet. This type of ticket is one that really should be handled by someone at a high rank. I'm not sure if anything can or will be done by our team, but I honestly feel this issue needs to be handled by the owners/admins of the groups as I've mentioned above.
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In my opinion group owners/admins who use value difference should not allow those games to be used.
Exactly.
Good groups don't allow such (exploiting) "games".
And if prices are set later much higher a good group would demand the deletion of such GAs IF it is visible that it influence the group in a negative way or someone from the group used it to exploit this "loophole" (and kick members if it is clear that someone give only such games or do GAs with a exploiting motivation).
This "devs" and their helpers -friends of owners of shady "shops"- (i don't say names or it would be calling out but i say they are sg users (and it isn't hard to find them when you look on their made GAs...)-, do such GAs too on other places like the Indiegala Giveaways.
Of course help the high fake prices to cheat levels and win then much more/often/better/easier.
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It's probably better to just post a link to the Steam store for the game and not a specific users giveaway because it might be seen as calling out. If someone wants to see who is giving away the games, they can search the archive to see all the giveaways for any game.
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I don't think you noticed that both of your links went to the giveaway instead of the Steam store page, so the giveaway is actually still linked.
Also, just to be clear, I don't want you (or anyone else reading this) to think I am telling you to remove the link, that is up to you. I just thought I would point it out since some people blacklist users who create giveaways for these games and it seems kind of unfair to point out a specific user when there are dozens of other users creating giveaways for the same game.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1971730/Put_Your_Brain_On/
and
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2085500/Restaurant_Manager_Simulator/
Price change from 4 euros to 43 euros ...
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/853480/Pestis/
Change from about 1,50 to 20,90 Euros
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Wigglenose posted this, but it's worth reposting:
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=_ASC&supportedlang=english&publisher=Hede
This one page has dozens of "CV-farming" games.
There's at least one group giveaway active for many games on this list, and the games all appear to still give full CV. Hopefully they can be changed to zero CV retroactively.
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I'm not sure if support is watching this thread or if they are just doing the ones that people file support tickets for. I thought someone might be watching the thread because most of the ones listed here are getting dropped to 0 CV, but Fly Fly Tuk Tuk is selling for $200 and was posted here 2 weeks ago, but is still full CV, so maybe they are just going off support tickets and that one didn't have a ticket filed.
This dev was also mentioned here 2 weeks ago because they raised all their games to $45 and they are still full CV as well.
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Bad news: from 1€ to 50-60€
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?developer=didlstudio
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?publisher=seel35games
But the good news is that "Bloodied Fear" has lower price from 2000000$ to 3.99$. ;-)
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For two of the didlstudio games giveaways just popped up and they still give full CV. And seel35games has been reported a month ago and most of their games still give full CV. It's really disheartening.
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Seems to be alot of news changed-for-overpriced games :/ :
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2208320/Explore_the_forest_Kill/
0,99 E > 116,99 E
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2240320/A_dream_that_never_wakes_up/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/873180/__1000_Stages__Adventure/
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2232040/Exalted_Seracthon/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1900520/Hyperstrix/
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?publisher=healthy%20game
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1720060/Earthquake_escape/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1699510/_/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1103060/Run_Thief/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1607640/Arcade_Drift/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1262730/Submarine_Adventure/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2118320/steal/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/881510/The_Official_GamingTaylor_Game_Great_Job/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1864090/Difficulty/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1487230/FutureKreate/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2241820/Sokoban/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2229010/Kotori/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2228930/5SPOTS/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2240270/East_Lake_Pond/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2055680/Nuclear_Fighter/
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/789550/Bright_Bob/
Changed 0.99 Euros -> 3.29 Euros-> 20.99 Euros
or 0.99 USD -> 3.99 USD -> 24.99 USD
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2082400/decisive/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2058130/Fortitude_invasion/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1555890/Paradise_Lost/
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1085800/Zenkat/
4,99 to 194,99 Euros
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2349010/Hidden_World_4_TopDown_3D/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2151590/Rush_Red__Blue/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1771000/Cry_Baby/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1468060/The_Island_of_Dr_Yepstein/
1,59 to 169,99 Euros
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1169510/Game_Breaker/
1,25 to 194,99 Euros
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1609600/Bunnys_Buddy/
4,09 to 194,99 Euros
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1035900/Prison_Escape/
0,55 to 49,99 Euros
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I have heard of people doing this, but specifically for group giveaways. This is because the calculations done for showing how much you have given or won from a group is not based on real CV, they are always calculated on full CV. This means when a game is dropped to reduced value or 0 CV, it has no affect for values shown in groups. When these games at $50 or $200 are dropped to 0 CV across the site, if someone created a GA for a group they still get the full $50, $200, or whatever it is added to how much they gave to the group. This messes up group contributor calculations.
Steamgifts really needs to switch group calculations over to real CV like the rest of the site. The way it is done now makes no sense.
Or maybe that person just realized that some people blacklist other users who give away a lot of these fake games to boost CV and decided they don't want these games on their account anymore.
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Please read this part before linking a game: If you are going to link a game here, please check to make sure that it has not already had it's CV removed. Support has already removed the CV from a very large number of these type of games. People can still create giveaways for the games, they just won't get any credit for them. There are a few different ways you can check. If you see a giveaway, you can just click the magnifying glass icon to the right of the game name and it will bring you to a page that will show a date next to "No Value" if it has already been reduced to give 0 CV. You can also go to the bundle game list here and search the name of the game or it's Steam ID. It will show a date in the "No Value" column if it has already had it's CV removed. The last way you can check is to go to the page to create a giveaway here and type in the name of the game or the Steam ID. The game has already had it's CV removed if there are 2 red asterisks next to the name of the game.
A lot of games have been reported in this thread that have not had their value reduced. To make it easier to see if a full CV game has already been reported here in the past, PoeticKatana has taken the time to go through the entire thread and check all the reported games. He found a large number of games that have not been reduced and created a table with a list of all the games and other helpful info about them.
Gelweo has taken over and is updating the list of games that have already been reported.
List of reported games that have not had their CV removed yet
List of reported games that have already been reduced to 0 CV
Update: Thanks to the support members who are looking into this. I noticed that many of the games listed below have been set to reduced or no value. Dropping the games to no value is great, but letting them get reduced value on fake $50 games is still kind of crazy. They are still getting $7.50 real CV each for dozens of copies of $50 games. It would be nice if those could be reduced more, but at least something is being done. Thanks for helping :)
Update 2: Big thanks again to support. A comment has been posted to let us know that all the games listed here have been added to the free list so they don't give anyone CV at these crazy prices. I just checked the dates on all the games compared to the date of the first GA anyone created for them on SG and I am happy to report that every game listed here has been set so that nobody will get any CV from these games no matter when they created the GAs.
Update 3: I just want to point out that this thread is not meant to be a comprehensive list of all of these type of games. I stopped adding games to the list here a long time ago. I originally created the thread to try and figure out why these games are being priced so high and if there was something that could be done to prevent users from abusing them to cheat the CV system. There is a large number of these games being created and support has been working to remove the CV from them. There are probably hundreds of these games at this point and I have no intention of trying to keep track of them all.
I am not a support member, so I personally cannot modify the value of these games. If you want to report one of these games that has not had it's value reduced yet, support members may be watching this thread and posting about the game here may get their attention, but I am not positive. I believe the official way to report these games is to file a support ticket in the "Add game to list" category.
Also, if you notice that some of the games listed here are not expensive anymore, they were at one time and probably will be again. I do not know why they change the prices so drastically. The game may be $2 one day and $200 the next.
Original Thread
I just noticed users giving away multiple copies of games that are full CV with a value of $50 (a lot are $50, some are $25-45) and they look like they should cost $1 or $2. There is no way anyone would pay that much for these games and they all have around 10-12 review that are 100% or 90% positive.
Is someone creating these games for the purpose of cheating the CV system here or is there some other reason why they would be created and somehow users here got keys to give away?
I am not saying that everyone who gives away one of these games is bad since I can understand if a user normally creates giveaways for any free keys they get and happens to get one of these from somewhere, but I checked one user's account and they are creating multiple GAs of most of these games and another account that is giving away 5 copies each of a lot of them.
I'm not sure what can be done, but maybe support could manually set the value of games like these to $1 or just mark them as free so they don't give any CV. I don't think anyone would have much to complain about because I doubt anyone is actually paying much if anything for these. The only ones that would be upset would be the ones who lose their fake CV, but they have nothing to complain about.
I just want to point out that the majority of users, like myself, have been here for many years slowly working our way up through the levels. I am almost level 8 after 8 years, but if I knew where to buy these games on grey market sites for pennies, I could be level 10 tomorrow. I don't want to do that though because it is wrong and if everyone started doing it, it would hurt the site. If a new level 0 user gives away 5 copies each of 12 of the $50 games listed, they would be level 9. It would probably only cost them around $10 to do this where it would cost the average user giving away their spare Humble Monthly games around $1200 or someone who looks for decent sales or bundles that give about 4 times what they pay in CV around $750. (Edit: It is no longer just $50 games, there is now a very large number of these games giving $200 CV)
This is just a short list of examples from when I created the thread. There are hundreds more that follow the same pattern.
Aoihana
Art your brains
Ball Torture
BeachRun
Bots City
CHICKWEED
cookies СOOkies COOKIES
CowboysShowdown
Crazy Zoo
DOLPHIN HUSTLE
DonutCrabs
Dr. Science quest
DUCK Mission
Eagle Simulator
Fishy Business
Fortitude invasion
Grot Slasher
helicopter 2.0
Hot Summer
Ink World
The Last Metal Shooter
Limousine Parking Simulator
Magic War
Mechaguard
MOVERS IN THE WAREHOUSE
My Sweet Ants!
Need for Spirit: Off-Road Edition
Over City
Panda Run
Pixel Pirate
PLANETOIDS
Police Hot Pursuit
Puzzles with nature
Ragedanger Earth
Rich Taste of Ecchi
SCALEPLANET
SpearFrog
SPLAIT RAGE
Super Arkanoid
TOTO Quest
Underwater battles
Villwars
Voice Shooter "Pif Paf"
What do you hear?? Yanny vs Laurel
Yuonger Adventure
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