A friend of mine just yesterday received a message from a random girl on facebook (someone he never had contact with before) who told him that she knew he was German, called him Nazi, told him not to bother to answer because she'd block him right after the message and ended with some more stuff the like of that.
Well, that's the most convincing way to prove oneself to be a complete loser, isn't it?
Still, it did hurt my friend. He is no Nazi at all and has probably not done anything ever in his life to deserve this. And if he had been a Nazi that message wouldn't have hurt him at all. So all she could achieve by doing this was hurting people who clearly were no Nazis, but no Nazi whatsoever if she should have stumbled over one with such a message ...
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I never expect this day to come
I did nazi this day to come
Fixed! c:
It's so stupid that the best thing I can do is to joke about it :D
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This usually happens when talking online about politics, race or religion.
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I didn't even speak, about such things when I got called that. It was, about a game mainly the first time xD
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The things that can start an online argument actually range from politics, race and religion to things like preferred hobbies and activities, games, music, the way the word "gif" is read, how often you blink, the colour of a dress, the taste of water and the relevance of things that don't even exist, like Sonic the Hedgehog's favorite Halloween costume.
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(randomly points out)
Yo Stalin, water tastes like water.
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europe called erdogan for the last years a dictator and racist. why do europeans now get butthurt if erdogan calls them nazis for forcing unlawful stuff on turkish politicians only.
They even make propaganda against erdogan and try to manipulate political elections. But thats how the world works. If you dont like someone try your best to make your enemy look bad. so, noone says anything if you break human rights and laws to stop them.
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So who made "propaganda against erdogan and try to manipulate political elections"?
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the german tv channel ard made a propaganda video where they tell lies about the upcoming changes in the laws. they dont descripe it correctly and try to manipulate the turkish people. even making such an attempt says many things.
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Not sure how aware you are but this is most likely the only thing that isn't propaganda at the moment. Erdogan literally quote ISIS during the Turkish elections and he is literally trying to corrupt the Bulgarian elections at the moment. He's assisting the Turkish movement party in winning the current government elections. One of his ministers even came to Bulgaria, trying to rally the Bulgarian Turks to vote for that movement party so they can take the ultimate power.
So I don't see any reason for you to excuse him. He is worse than what western Europe knows, as western Europe just hears few of his stuff. Me living here so close to his country and getting direct affected by his actions, is not fun... Things are way worse than you think or expect them to be. He is literally a dictator and he really believes that islam is the only religion as much as he tries to "excuse" it from time to time. And you do realize that Erdogan broken human rights a few hundred times just for the last year. Right?
By the way. Europe doesn't force unlawful stuff on anyone. You aren't not allowed to rally people in different countries for your own elections OR for their elections. It's like saying that the Mexican president can enter in the USA and start doing rallies to vote for Hillary or Trump. Both are against the law in pretty much every country in the world. If you want to rally your people in different countries do it on your OWN media and give access to that online media or TV media to the countries you want to do it in a fair price, but only if it's your OWN politics. Don't go out on the streets and cause chaos. Plus agitating in a language which is NOT the native language for this country is strictly forbidden by the law. As I said the Turkish movement party in Bulgaria have been fined lots of times for agitating in Turkish instead of Bulgarian.
I am sorry for you if you cannot understand any of this and think it's propaganda. But don't even start calling me brain washed. I see things going on with my own eyes, I don't need some media to lie to me, about it.
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Erdogan is just protecting his own people from the US. #TeamErdogan
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in which way is it causing chaos making a rally for the elections to gain votes from the voters? everyone does it. and every turk has a right to vote in the turkish elections. it doesnt cause any chaos and it doesnt change anything. people who vote for him still votes for him and people who dont dont.
but allowing the meetings and suddenly bringing up lies and bullshit to stop them again is nothing but breaking your own laws. european politicans showed their true faces by doing so. they dont even allow programs for honoring the dead people from ww1 because they "could" talk about the elections.
What do you say about the bulgarian right wing party who tried to stop turkish people from entering turkey? they made barricades and didnt let them through. Is this ok?
If people start talking about things you should do and not do they should first look at their own backyard. europe has and will never have a right to tell the turkish politicians that they are not allowed to make a meeting and after that making their own propaganda material on a german tv channel to manipulate turkish people. hypocrisy at its finest.
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Are you an idiot? Nobody is allowed to rally for election of a different country in someone else's country. You cant fucking go in Germany and rally for Turkish elections. You cant go to Holland to rally for Turkish elections. You cant be a fucking Turkish minister and rally IN TURKEY FOR BULGARIAN ELECTIONS. It's like saying Merkel doing a rally, about a political party in Bulgaria, are you fucking mental? Read the bloody laws, then come and speak bullshit.
And the "right winged" as you claim are the patriotic party which everyone knows that they hate Turks. Their party alone. And they didn't go to the boarders to stop Turkish people to go back to Turkey. They went to stop Turkish people who never lived in Bulgaria, but come to Bulgaria to vote in the Bulgarian elections. Before you speak propaganda bullshit, about how we're doing the propaganda, go and recheck your facts. Thank you very much. I know political members of all right and some left winged parties in Bulgaria and I know what their goals are. When they go to stop Turkish voters and you say "Ohhh they went stop Turks to enter Turkey", I know you're full of shit.
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yeah, good good. show what kind of person you are by insulting people who dont agree with you shows how childish you are.
How on earth can turkish people vote in bulgarian elections? do you even have a system? if they are citizens of both countries dont they have a right to vote?
and i am full of shit? here watch this. then you can see who is full of shit. but i dont expect someone who cant discuss anything without insulting to be an adult. only minor little rude kids do it.
even if the bulgarian police doesnt stop them. what tells it about your country? rules dont matter right? as long as it fits your opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIVz_BORq80
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They don't have a right to vote for a country they dont even live in or know the language, no matter your idiotic double pasports system.
Nice propaganda video you troll. IT just shows them at the boarder, doesnt show if they are stupid Turks out or IN. And why dahell should people like you who never lived her elect who will rule my country? Take your double standard pasports and stay in your own bloody country.
And you insulted me way more in a single post than my "Are you an idiot?". And you don't discuss anything. You come here and lie directly my political groups are doing. Then you go and excuse when your political groups go mess with the government of other countries. Your politicians have 0 rights to rally for Holland elections, for our elections, for German elections or any other elections. So your dictator for a president can go back where he came from and leave Europe alone. Thank you. Calls Europe as Nazi's same time goes and messes with their politics... Fucking logical at max.
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Best for everyone would be if the Turkish stopped with their double passport policy.
Born in Turkey = Turk. Born outside Turkey = not a Turk. Basically how most countries work.
This will make elections more honest. Let the people in the country decide its fate, and not those foreign voters who live in a different country with different rules and different mindsets.
I personally wouldnt want someone with Dutch grandparents but born and raised in Turkey be able to cast a vote on Dutch elections. They arent Dutch.
And why is he so pissed? Because he needs these votes to win his referendum, nothing else.
If something should be called manipulation its the Turkish double passport bullshit
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Yep, that's one of the many ways some people call others for not agreeing with them.
It think it's stupid, and anyone who disagrees with me is literally Hitler.
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I think you're wrong, but if you disagree with me, you're Stalin. :p
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Guys, I think we just found where Hitler was hiding all these years...
I agree with you, though, you must be right since I'm not actually Stalin (I think)
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You're right. Golwar even posted proof that Im Hitler on the first page. You should hate me now.
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That's definitive proof.
But you can't tell me what to do, Hitler. I'm a person from the internet, and like a teenage girl, if you tell me to hate you, I'll just like you even more. =)
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Hate me. Or Golwar will eat you with his false wikipedia links :p
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I always find it very interesting that Hitler is the face of ultimate evil in this world. It transcends language and borders, this guy.
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Hitler kills jews and wants to make Europe pure again. Face of all evil
Ottoman empire enslaves christians for 500 years and wants to take over the world and make it all Muslim and kills way more jews than Hitler's force ever did. Nobody buzzes a fly. This is how we're constructed these days. We hate only what the media makes us hate, we forget what's not helping us win arguments.
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Ottoman empire [...] kills way more jews than Hitler's force ever did.
Another bit of education for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire
Yes, Antisemitism was imported in later centuries. But your claim that they killed more Jews than Hitler, is just the usual nonsense of an uneducated hater.
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Uneducated is wikipedia and the casual western person who believes that horse crap, because this is my own history and we still keep actual facts in our books instead of the random BS written in wikipedia. Now quit pretending that you're so cool and get a real book that writes real facts, about this age on the Balkans.
And before you claim our books are fake. They are written by actual figures who lived in that era and are considered heroes for our country. So don't bloody go acting like they are some false sources. Only other place where they have true facts is in a Greek library, as our writers actually had to go in Greece to be able to write the stuff, as Bulgarian was forbidden by Ottoman law.
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So how many Jews did the Ottoman Empire kill? Where did it kill them, in Constantinople and 'core Turkish' areas, or in Bulgaria and other blood tax style 'foreign places'?
(I know in some other Balkans countries, the books with actual facts are complete fables. The same of course famously goes for history books in Turkey and a few neighbours; Japan for a far-away example. I don't know how that is in Bulgaria, but it doesn't have to be more accurate or less accurate than Wikipedia just because it's in books or written by 'heroes'.)
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Wikipeadia is written by American "historians" who claim that Bulgaria was in alliance with the Ottoman empire. If that was true why does our history teach is totally differently and why does our two countries have such hate to each other? Does that make historical heroes like Vasil Levski who is still claimed the biggest hero of the nation, actually a false hero or just a myth? Are the books originally written at that time period really fake? Why did a film director recently come to Bulgaria to get actual historian facts, about our country, simple because Wikipedia and the historical facts in America, about us are false?
Jews were executed in the Ottoman empire, in which Bulgaria and other balkan countries fall into while they were under slavery. And the numbers were over 20% higher than what was claimed, of Hitler's casualties. I don't speak in exact numbers, as I am not a person of dates neither I'm a historian to know exact names and in detail every event. But wikipedia... well once I tried to write an essay with information from it and I felt sick and never entered it again.
OH sorry, was that an attempt to mock the blood tax and claim that it was fake?
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No, I know that Ottoman Carpets treated Bulgur Salad pretty poorly. Even my German CNN Wikipedia historians do not doubt it.
I was just asking how you know that the 'real' books contain 100% correct information, as opposed to maybe 52% correct information.
(Numbers about deaths attributed to WW2 parties of course also vary wildly - they're educated guesses by historians, and guessing is an imprecise science.)
I accept that Levski is so important that he even has a football stadium named after him, even though the Plovdiv one is bigger. Levski btw believed in equal rights for Turks and Jews and whatnot, according to Western CNN.
P.S.: Do you know that your neighbours in Romania hate the Roman Empire as much as you hate the Ottoman Empire?
P.P.S.: To get back to the Ottomans, it feels like you might be generalising and thus also exaggerating their evilness. They didn't take all the little boys, and they didn't "send the boys back to murder their parents". Like any very big entity, they were mostly interested in stability, and before the Ottoman Empire held dominion over the Bulgarian lands, you have to admit that constant wars occurred that largely got replaced by a more stable and dare I say safe existence, besides the periodic 'child theft'. Imported Turkish warriors only held high administrative posts, while the actual village administrations commonly remained with the Bulgarian locals. Can we agree that the Ottoman yoke was onlyreally horribly bad in the last period, when the Ottoman Empire was unable to sustain itself anymore and (maybe more importantly for Bulgaria) unable to keep its local spahis under control? The whole çiftlik thing you are very welcome to call evil and demonic and whatnot.
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The feel when someone says that the blood tax was acceptable. Guess banning Christianity and Bulgarian language was pretty peaceful. Killing people who don't accept Allah was acceptable... Actually you did post a lot of stuff that Al Jesira or w. E they were called released last year with the support of an American historian... Did you know that Romania was actually Bulgaria before the ottomans? Even Dracula is born in Bulgaria... The Roman Empire or also know as the byzantine empire pretty much waged wars with ancient Bulgaria for hundreds of years... So knowing that Romania was, Bulgaria during that period it's obvious that they hate the Roman Empire... We here just care about it because we know that we were kicking their butts...and levski has a football team after him as well and the stadium is theirs... And he fought for liberation of his country, not for equal rights... He was just respected from most turks because he was too good for a person who lives in that age...
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The feel when someone says that the blood tax was acceptable.
Your Bulgarian History reaction is exactly the same as when I read out your Did you know that Romania was actually Bulgaria to a Romanian. Very angry. English Wikipedia says it happened, while Romanian Wikipedia says that the most Bulgaria would have done was maybe do invasions and raids. You are literally spreading the view of the Western CNN here!
All fake history reads like we know that we were kicking their butts btw. Not saying all we know that we were kicking their butts is false, but that everything false is exactly that.
(Why is Hitler intelligent when he bans religions and languages and kills people, but Ottomans are not intelligent when they do the same? Serious question. It's the same shit. Treat it the same.)
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btw. I added your "proof" at the main post ,so people can know who I am before they post :)))
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+1. This is what I'm saying.
I mean, there's other notable figures that have done quite a considerable lot of questionable inhumane stuff out there, but it always falls down to Hitler. I'm not a sympathizer (just pointing it out, in case that's what's going on in the head of whoever's reading), I'm just questioning this whole face of all evil idea.
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Golwar will put the Hitler lover/fanboy title on you now. Welcome to the club. <3
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I'd say there's nothing wrong with bunching up figures of history as 'faces of evil', but it's better to use multiple symbols and not merely one (i.e. you can replace him with Stalin or any other mass murdering dictators of your choice, and even largely avoid Godwin's Law accusations).
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Not as wrong as the sell weapons to ISIS policy by some political groups... But I mean... doesn't "Make Europe Muslim by force", sound worse? Which was used ~600 years ago and now used once again... I mean. Okay. Call me racist, and whatever, but... History repeats itself and people are too busy hating on a guy who made a war 100 years ago... which he actually won indirectly... Because Merkel is kind of seen as the Europe grand boss in the current state of Europe...
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The word PURE might not be correct, as I don't know german and it could be bad translation, after all I'm just a basic cyrillic alphabet user, trying to write in latin alphabet and language. And the current ISIS views are the same as the old Ottoman views. They didn't purge the white people from their homes as they just stole their kids (blood tax) and trained them to be soldiers who were later sent to kill their own parents. That's way worse than direct purge.
And in math 72 > 50 = 100, I speak of not exactly number.
I never spoke, about his ideologies, I spoke about him as a person. Because Hitler as a person itself was a good person judging by today's standards, but people are too blind to see it... Animal lover? Vegetarian? He wasn't sexist? Pretty much what most people see as good today... or am I wrong? I mean obviously I am wrong, and people will take every single word I wrote out of context... Because this is how we live today, everything is taken out of context, nobody is trying to understand anyone. IT's instant hate and attack.
Feel free to dislike me or black list me now. It's just sad how people read only stuff they want to read and not what I meant by the words I use. Oh by the way. Any idea if steam punish people who directly attack you on your profile?
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Love. Hitler's army was one of the few who had female officers... Seriously. If that's sexist, then I'm my avatar in real life... He actually had female spies as well...
And please do not speak of religion, I don't really care about any church. I've never accepted any religion and speaking, about such religion stuff to me is literally entering my left ear and leaving my right one...
Now you'll call me a hypocrite, for disliking islam... well fuck me I live literally next to Turkey with a lot of muslims here... And I dislike the religion one for their lack of care, about others. There's a... idk what's the muslim temple even called, but there's one in my town. They are so disrespecting the non-muslims that every day they are singing their stuff loud on speakers so half the town could hear them, even if 90% of the town is Christian... And we cant do anything, because they go jumping on us, for discrimination. The constant attack (3 of them were pretty close to my father, who's not in the country) were all in the name of that bloody religion... My country was under muslim slavery for 500 years and they did pretty horrible stuff to them.
Now speaking of Hitler himself. Everyone calls him racist and shit, but does anyone even remember that he's half jew? if not full... I dont remember which of the two it was. You cant call a jew racist for killing jew... Skip that. Speaking of killings? It's a bloody war... there's no war without killings. But yeah. You all remember Hitler's killings right... meanwhile America dropped 2 nuclear bombs over Japan, or everyone forgot that? Hitler got people killed for that current age. Meanwhile the radiation from the nuclear bombs affects way more generations, way more time. Does anyone remember that? Same time. Stalin killed his own men if they were captured. Whole prisons were slaughtered by Russian soldiers. Both prisoners and guards.
So yeah. HItler isnt men of the year. He isnt a flower. But he is not the biggest evil in history and he isnt an idiot as people claim. You cant be an idiot and the same time rebuild a crippling country and make it the most feared force in Europe. Does anyone even assimilate that? I never claimed that I wanted to live in Nazi Europe. I never said I'm proud of what he does. I said he was a brilliant mind and a brilliant dictator to be able to unite so many people together and to rebuild. My country is trying to rebuild for hundreds of years and fails, while he did it in no time...
Now can we please stop, trying to make me a NAzi and stop arguing about something that passed. The present is in a horrible state and people are more worried if someone says HItler was smart, than if tomorrow they wont fall victim to a totally random and retarded terrorist attack or a blind robbery or who knows what else life throws at them... The past is the past. The present is here. There is an open danger and people just ignore it.
If you wanna argue about this any more. Feel free to add me. I am just too fed up to continue with this.
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ylil. I said the hypocrite part, because I said I dont speak about religion, but then there's me speaking about islam. That's the idea of that word usage.
Everyone claims Im a nazi so I'm just ionizing it. And the racist part is because im still annoyed of that guy flooding my steam account with his abusive messages.
I still don't see what is this whole thing, all about now. I literally got mass attacked for calling Hitler intelligent. You agree in that. Topic ends. There's no point to continue it... Never said hes' good, I just claimed he's not the worse and I see no point of everyone to throw literally hate on him when there's so much worse. At that current age. There wasnt a single country which wasnt sexist. Nazi Germany was the least. So yeah. I do say people should read history. Because most of the females who live today and complain for their rights, would of suicide if they lived in the early years of the 20th cent.
There, I said all I wanted to say. Wanna go out for dinner now? (Rofl) (I dont know who or what you are so it's a joke. Excuse if you understood it, but I guess I have to start pointing out stuff, because lots of people prefer to read my jokes out of context)
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Roman Empire kills millions of innocent barbarians and conquers their land - no one gives a fat duck.
Egyptian Pharaoh enslaves tens of thousands of people - no one gives a fat duck.
A wild meteor kills all the dinosaurs from the planet - no one gives a fat duck.
I fart in public - everyone loses their mind.
What's up with Bulgarian and Turkish / Ottoman people? You hate them cause they used to be superior people over your lands just like nazis were superior over France, Poland, Denmark etc. countries?
I mean Turks are really nice and patriotic people. Except when they attack Russian Sukhois for bombarding terrorists.
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The barbarians weren't innocent. Neither was the Roman empire. So don't over-do it.
Black people cry for 200 years of slavery big issue. White people cry for 500 years of slavery, "what the big deal". That's the big deal... and be glad that Russia assisted the Balkanic countries, so that empire wouldn't invade whole Europe...
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When exactly was this 500 years of white man slavery? And black man slavery may have ended long before but apartheid ended in 1991. That's not so long ago, and what does it has to do with Hitler?
I think you are making a victim out of yourself.
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ARE YOU SERIOUSLY IGNORING 500 YEARS OF EUROPE HISTORY?!??! YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY CAME TO FUCKING STOP THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE AND HELP WHITE PEOPLE TO GET FREE OUT OF THE FUCKING ARABIC SLAVERY...
No Fuck this. I'm don't talking to you. You're a just an idiot. Haven't called anyone an idiot from ages, but you fucking deserve it...
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... You still haven't answered my question about when this 500 years of white man slavery happened?
You mean Roman Empire who enslaved white and black men? You mean peasants that were nowhere near the slave conditions that worked on fields in the US? What do you mean?
Sure, I can be idiot, but at least you could tell the truth - You don't know what you're talking about.
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The Ottoman empire enslaved the Balkans. Aka white people for 500 years. Traded christian woman and objects, used men for labor. Stole their kids as blood tax and then send them to kill their own parents. That's what... This is the type for slavery. 500 Years under the rule of the Ottoman empire. 500. Clearly you are ignoring history. And acting like it never happened. Or you're just an idiot trying to provoke while knowing this very well.
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Considering your previous fascist, racist, hateful and intolerant comments, that is a pretty legit claim I have to say...
I remember once you said you hate all turkish people and there is no reason to even try talking to any one of people living in Turkey, clearly meaning all 80 millions of them.
I think you don't have the mental maturity to distinguish and understand things and what is actually behind them other than the manipulative and one-sided things they show on the media.
Do you really think every single German person, supported Hitler in Nazi Germany?
Do you consider, what would happen to you if you go against a dictator?
You can spend the rest of your life voting 'no' in a so called democratic election and get nothing out of it or you can try going beyond that risking your reputation, everything you own, your freedom, your life and your family without anything to gain in sight.
When will people start to see others as individuals, as fellow human beings with equally precious lives of their own, rather than some numbers to hate and crush under a flag or religion?
Most people can understand when a neighbour commits a crime, others in the same building are not responsible of it.. But when it comes to a much bigger scale, countries, religions and races they seem to be so eager to put everyone in the same boat and blame/hate them all at once...
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Taking my words out of context. Claims that I believe the media even if I literally got 50 posts talking against the fake news that keep coming out. Claims that I believe all Germans are Nazi's and claims that I said I hate all Turks, even if that is totally out of context as I never said that literally. Claims that I'm mentally immature, but goes attacking me without actually thinking over anything i said, without trying to read or understand, just getting stuff out of context, ignoring sarcasm or self irony.
You literally, just showed what we were speaking, about on the thread.
But I agree with you. I'm Hitler and I deserved to be killed publicly before I destroy your freedom... Right? (self irony combined with sarcasm)
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That is not my opinion, you don't agree with me.
You asked a question and got a serious answer, maybe that was not something you were looking for.
I really hope you will change for the better, this is why I bothered with giving a serious reply in the first place.
They are not "just claims"
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By the lady and savior ! You're right, I deserve to die now!
Wait... 1 year ago? Wtf is this ? You stalking me or something? Plus side. You said Ottoman empire doesn't exist. Meanwhile the literally leader of Turkey is preaching their believes... Well glad I was all that wrong a year ago... maybe I was a prophet... I'm from the future bruh. You know nothing... Now would you kindly quit been so obsessed with me and posting stuff from a year ago? That's just wrong and disgusting... Like get real, I don't even remember my (nazI based (sarcasm)) fanfiction from 8 months ago, which I'm still writing and you're like full "I remember this person from over a year, I remember all the words that person said, I hate this person, I'll kill this person" ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Whoooooooooooooooooo?????????????????????????????????
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I ignored that, as people kept repeating that he's a Christian terrorist while in fact he was a political terrorist. He didn't shout "hail Christ", while ISIS terrorist do shout "Allah Akbah'.
Or will you now say I was wrong, as the topic was about religion terrorism and not politics... Why am I asking, ofc now you will claim I'm a racist monster, just because of it... everyone sees me a monster now. I was exposed so much. My political career is over, my life is over. I should commit (sarcasm obviously) suicide.
But if you understood what I mean, I'm glad and happy that finally someone did. Getting lonely here on the cliff of understanding.
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Wait wait wait wait... So the guy who claimed that there's christian terrorists and pointed out this guy was wrong the first place? So basically... 99% of the argument which happened on my arse back then is totally... fuck me I got baited, these guys really are some weirdo stalkers trying to make crap over me.
So does this mean you hate me now?
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i feel like I'm getting hated over here, for having different views and understanding. :p I even got attacked by a kind ser or ma'am on my steam account few mins ago.
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Check my profile and you'll know what I meant. I wasn't pointing you as the attacker.
P.S your way of interacting with me is kind of showing aggression giving the impression that you have some hate growing towards me.
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I remember clearly that Breivik had initially claimed to be acting in self-defense of white Christian Europe. Back then I decided to mostly view him as a "WoW player" background-wise, as I didn't find his Christianity profession to sound incredibly convincing. I don't know if he by now identifies as a second Varg Vikernes as you say. I'm not a Breivik expert and don't follow him on Twitter or whatever.
Overall Kapy's analysis of 'political terrorist' seems surprisingly spot-on.
(I suppose there's a racial element to it, after all the people he attacked weren't only at a politically sponsored camp, but also seemed to largely be non-white.)
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Unsure if you are joking / even read the post. Hard to tell by now.
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Who cares I'm deleting diary comments on my profile where ppl want to kill me and call me racist! Meaning I'm a racist! Especially after I was called white privileged while standing home because I can't find a job ^^
Ps I don't event get social help for this, because I'm white privileged
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it feels to me more an anti-Islam text than a pro-Christian one.
Yes, that was the vibe I got off the minuscule bit I glanced at.
largely non-white
I remember our TV stations trying to play it off as an attack by a white person on other white people, while survivors in the TV feed background seemed maybe 40% white. No precise memories; your victims table I assume roughly reflects the ethnicity makeup of Norway.
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I find it concerning that you blacklist kapy, but the account he is shown arguing with, whose name already is chosen for the purpose of glorifying a "bloodthirsty tyrant", is exempt from any criticism.
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He is? I should start reading names and check their meanings I guess. (points out the +40 blacklists and +2 whitelists from this thread)
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In 1453, Mehmed the Conqueror fucked Istanbul-not-Constantinople and destroyed the Byzantine Empire (and what was left of the Roman Empire). I'm not including any Wikipedia links, I know it would tilt you <3.
Also congrats, what's your overall blacklist count?
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21 - 163. The blacklist is going yolo up and down douh.
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Ah, I only have 30-something BLs and WLs. I guess a good few are revenge BLs, so it's hard to estimate which of mine are 'real' blacklist entries.
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If you're so double skidded with everyone then I guess they are real
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I find it concerning that you are concerned with who is not in my blacklist even more so than who is in there.
If you really need an answer, even though I have completely different political views, 1453 seems to be capable of holding a conversation in a civilized manner while not attacking every single opposition like they have something against him personally.
I actually have a very small blacklist, only a few people are there. You got to be somewhat "special" to be included in that list and even among them kapy has a special place since she is one of the 2-3 people I remember exactly why I blacklisted and why they should stay there.
Backing up my claims, what happened to her accounts in League of Legends might give you an idea what kind of person you are dealing with here. I played thousands of games (ranked and normal) in lol since beta till this season on EU-West server mostly. I have seen all kinds of flamers, ragers, haters, trolls... But believe me getting 5 accounts perma-banned is something very very "special" and rare. You have to be extremely toxic and stubborn in order to achieve that. Trust me I am also human, there were times I also flamed and lost my control due to excessive trolling or flaming in that game as well, but still got nothing more than a few chat restrictions.
I can't even imagine what you need to do to get 5 accounts banned and not even question yourself a bit during that very long process of creating new accounts and leveling them, showing extreme toxic behaviour in games, getting them banned again, going back to the start of the loop.
Anyway, I don't want to stay in this thread any longer. This must be one of the worst threads ever in SG history, I can totally relate to "this thread gave me cancer" comments. Now if you will excuse me, I have better things to do than reading threads filled with hate and neo-nazi rants, losing my faith in humanity while doing that...
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she
She is a character from said videogame. He's a he.
EU-West
I fear kapy might play on EUNE, which is hosted in the same datacenter as EUW but is roughly five times as hostile (you'd be surprised that's even possible).
(Why do you respond to me with a picture of a conversation where I told kapy roughly what you now tell me, namely that five permabans don't come out of misunderstood sarcasm?)
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I dont see a reason if any of you to genderlize me without even knowing me. And I play in EUW and yeah. I mean why would ppl from the support team be my friends and actually gift me ingame stuff on my new accounts if I'm all that toxic and horrible. They would of actually unbanned my account if lyte didn't have such an idiotic system
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Who the heck is this pewpie?
Anyway, there's nothing wrong in being Hitler, of course, many people would want to kill you but they are just jealous of your stache ;=)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PewDiePie
half the stuff are wrong, but at least they got his name and country and "job" right XD
._. that's what Stalin would say.
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Not even marginally interesting to me.
I'll stick to my plan of seizing control of a country and for no reason attack other ones except it will be fun ; )
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Not sure how to accept this. I'll call CNN to report this as serious news.
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New argument? No. On the Internet sooner or later, in ANY argument one of the sides will start comparing something/someone to nazis and Hitler. That's the rule of the Internet.
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Offered a lighter punishment system compared to the dictatorship system they currently have in League of Legends. Clearly sarcasm causes you to perma. lose your account, I had the idea to just mute the account instead of disabling it, so people don't lose their content and stuff (aka real money). Clearly people decided to go full balls to the walls on me and claiming how I'm a dictator or literal hitler for offering such a system and got tons of hate. Plus other threads in other gaming forums.
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I know nothing about League of Legends, so I can't say anything about this.
But yeah, sarcasm can be a real problem.
Because so many people just don't get it and start to act like the inquisition, lol.
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Not inquisition. Account sellers make tons and tons of money, with the current system. So mainly account sellers go full balls to the wall on me with their bots and shit... And ofc my friend at support is acting dumb going "we detected ips, no bots sorry" not realizing that account sellers dont use the same IP on all their bots... like seriously... t-t
goes to cry in emo corner
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(Very few games offer more ways to be hostile and mean to the people you are supposed to be cooperating with, or for that matter incentives to get angry at them. You and me have no way of finding out if the OP's ingame punishments were justified or not.)
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Solely. I look like a criminal. Seen in the actual conversation, you'd think that I was a Saint as no vulgar language was used in return
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But yeah, the whole Pewdiepie fiasco was really funny :)
Media fucked this up so badly, it's ridiculous.
They apparently can't stop to undermine their own credibility, this time with the younger part of their audience.
In the meanwhile, I enjoy the hilarity that ensues :D
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I think he's nominated as person of the year, this year. But not sure xD
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Pointing out. 16 blacklists since i made this thread.
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Please... I didn't even know that these guys were having a grudge over me from a year+ ago. I just wanted a discussion and i got "exposed". :p
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I said that Merkel's rule must be fun for your gaming.
Then I claimed that Merkel is way worse than Hitler and that's an offense to him.
Then I added the reffugies in the whole discussion after I got attack.
Recreating it on your own views is a bit unfair towards me, don't you think? Plus taking things out of context. I was called racist for calling Merkel a bad leader and a bad comparison with Hitler. Do I get some tolerant views for me now? Or am I still a criminal? Excuse me, but ignoring such basics is kind of discriminating and really really offensive.
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You: Merkel is destroying Germany and affects gaming.
Someone: Compare Merkel to Hitler.
You: Don't offend Hitler.
Now that's pretty much nazi- stuff. Admiring someone who made an ideology of killing others to be nothing but better for everyone. Nowadays patriotism is close to being nazism. You look at other nations repressively and don't feel pity if other person is coming from somewhere else.
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That you're factually inaccurate on some topics and it shows.
Fun fact, before Merkel games were more restricted in Germany (but that has nothing to do with Merkel really).
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Fun fact. Merkel got this tolerant views in Germany and Europe the first place...
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Unless you're a white supremacist that thinks that others are inferior just because of their skin color or you think that Germany should conquer neighbor countries and become an Empire... then no, I doubt you're a nazi. Am I doing it right? HEIL KAPY! :3
After reading your permalink comment on that thread it amuses me how people have elevated nazis to the most vile people that have born on the face of the Earth, because yes, nazis were conquering assholes driven by vengeance and extreme nationalism, but they were efficient, calculating, smart assholes! There are good things we can learn from their methods (hell, a shit ton of scientific progress was taken from Nazi Germany I believe), however their motives were absolute shit and should be condemned. So it's kind of funny to see how everyone is ok with killing the same enemies on videogames and films: aliens, monsters/mutants, robots/faceless soldiers, zombies/undead and... NAZIS :D
After reading your second comment I think what offend people the most, I think, is your generalization feeling when you called out a "refugee attack"; remember that everyone reads things with a certain tone of voice in their minds, I don't know you enough to know if you do make such generalizations and/or hate all or most of the syrian refugees. It's pretty easy to make generalizations based on our strong emotions towards some individuals even though we don't really think that way. I love dark humor, making some gay jokes and women jokes with friends, family and even my gf, someone who doesn't know me and hears me passing by might think I really think that way, but I actually support gay rights and gender equality and am vocal about those too. So yeah, I guess it all depends on how we phrase things and our tones.
tl;dr: Hitler and the nazis were assholes, and yet they did have some positive things too. History is written by the victors, not everything is so black and white like people would like to believe. And regarding people, we all have layers of black and of white, try not to be so defensive. I get that sometimes we like to debate and argument our points but it's the Internet after all... not much can be expected except a lot of misunderstandings and angst. Peace!
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He's a Chocolate Pandora Box: you never know what you'll get!
It's pretty hard to know the truth without talking to real Russians I guess... if you read something against Putin you get "russians" commenting it's bullshit anti-russian propaganda, and those "russians" are then called Putin-bots or part of the cyber-attack army of hackers at his disposal. It gets a little tiring to see the ultra national country loving fanatics of the USA and of Russia online tbh, both countries have great things and bad things imo.
Personally I do believe there's something rotten in the Kremlin just for seeing how that guy has been pulling the strings of the country for around 17-18 years since he began his Prime Minister-President alternance in power. I remember that in past elections the guy got SO MUCH votes at his favor that in the end 140% of russians ended up voting on the elections, LOL.
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I think he's doing great and I actually voted for him in the last voting. There was a reasonable explanation for the 146% mistake but no one cares about that because saying he cheated is much more productive way. Plus, don't forget that US media earns a lot by writing crap on Russia, China and India. And European media takes all their news from the US, because it's 146% legit and truth only.
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Like I said, "It's pretty hard to know the truth without talking to real Russians". I have my reservations about him, but he DID lift up Russia from the Soviet Union's mess, he's a pretty smart leader! However his opposition has met with "strange" bad things happening to them too...
But anyway, what was the explanation of those election? A bug in the computer voting system? I'm curious.
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His enemies would say that the people 'lifted up' are mostly thieves and the children of thieves and the children of the children of thieves, while out on the countryside you won't find any glorious wealth increases or smart leadership.
As for talking to 'real' Russians/Turks/whatnot, take into consideration the problem of deciding who is real and has access to real information. I made the experience that expats from countries with authoritarian regimes are either very resentful towards their ancestral homeland (because their family was persecuted there, who knows for what reasons) or extremely gullible towards propaganda and thus very defensive of a place they might never have set foot in (I assume motivated by a need to belong to their 'real homeland').
tl;dr: truth's hard to find, yo
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tl;dr: truth's hard to find, yo
word!
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I said hitler was a smart asshole. Got 130 blacklists, life threads and who knows what else.
S/he writes it. People are like "You like Putin? He sexy? TELL ME SENSAI'
I am seriously feeling discriminated over here... Btw.. Hitler was a jew (half jew) so "white supremacy" for him doesn't actually count... And yeah. Video games kill only Russians, Nazis, Muslims, Aliens, Monsters, Robots... And later people call me a discriminating, racist, sexist, retard...
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- If you really got a life-threatening messages you can turn them to your police.
- I like Putin and Erdogan, I'm actually Russian. I just happen to live in Europe. I just asked if you liked them cause if you don't then why? Putin and Erdogan haven't done anything wrong. They're strong leaders who protect their own, just like your beloved Hitler did, except without mass murdering innocent.
- Hitler is as jew as Erdogan is Bulgarian.
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I never said I love Hitler you t**t, I said I respect him. Even enemies respect each other.
Erdogan isnt a strong leader, neither he is protecting his people. He is going inside Europe trying to tell Europe how to live their lives. Clearly you're ignoring that fact.
Plus you don't know your own history. So I dont see a point of speaking to you.
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HAHAHAHA. Someone got all emotional just because Erdogan is as great leader as Hitler. I guess Bulgarian media writes shit on him and you follow. Good for you bro. Keep reading 9gag and local news papers about bad boy Turkey.
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I don't do 9gag. I don't do local news papers. And clearly you're ignorant as hell... If you had spent at least 5 mins of reading my comments, you'd know that I am against all these fake news that media keeps throwing around. I live at the bloody boarder of Europe. Next to Turkey. I see the stuff first hand. I am informing myself from real life views. Not from media, not from fake news. As the media is actually corrupt by CNN news and gives only false bullshit. And Erdogan is a conquer.
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Well one of nazi's main belief is white supremacy (aryan to be exact), since it was the true German race and thus it was the supreme race or some bullshit like that. And yeah, I don't think he was half jew but rather 1/8 or 1/4... but whatever, he got JEW blood! Some even say that his hate for jews developped since he hated that part of his heritage, he felt filthy or whatever; the mind is powerful, even the stupidest thought can cause a huge impact, be it positive or negative.
Don't take life threat seriously, also the comment about "digging your own grave" is an english expression, it's not LITERAL hehe. Basically people saw you like a closet Hitler lover and that you were hurting yourself by saying those things in public, but here people blacklists you for WHATEVER reason. I'm sure I will get blacklisted just by written to you and not insulting you or demonize you, meh, who cares. I'm not on this site to get popular or to win more than what I gift, I will never get everyone to like me, that's life :]
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Why is everyone calling me a Hitler lover... I said a hundred times. I respect him. I don't like/love him... Even enemies can respect each other. I just don't understand this idiotic pointless hate over 1 person while there's thousands worse in history. Yet nobody sees is as wrong and weird how 2 weirdos I don't know, came from the nothing. Pointing a thread from 1 + years ago. Everyone just goes attacking because I called Hitler intelligent.. Fuck me. Why are people forcing me to lose more and more faith in humanity...
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Try to ignore them, maybe take a break from the site for some days if you feel it's affecting your emotional health too much. This issue really isn't worth it for you to feel anxious or bad about it, with critics is always the same, take what's constructive for your life and ignore what's just plain hate. In time you might even just see it as dumb when people call you something you're not and joke around sarcastically if you even feel like responding to such dumb comments :]
Chin up Kapy. Don't take it personally, people will be people, don't waste any more energy around this!
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so white supremacists that in the wehrmacht there were department entirely composed by arabs an asian volunteers. and there were jews too. whose heritage was well known on the upper floors of the power back then. very white suprematist indeed...
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well first of all I was mainly thinking of neo nazis, who are white supremacist as far as I know. Secondly, WOW, I've never heard about nazi working with jews... like wtf, sorry to bother you but do you have some link sources? (and about the other volunteers I guess it was to gain their favor, but jew volunteers seems pretty crazy)
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sorry, quoted the wrong message.
true about the neo nazi. a bunch of nato mindless puppet playing with celtic crosses and swastikas happy to be used as anti-government elements (see ukraine prevy sektor).
the jew could get into the german army as volunteers and or as vet of the 1WW. the definition of "jew" was confused and heavily discussed even among the party member up untill the norember law that defined it by juw and half-jew based on theyr grade heritage, religious and beliefe relationship. internal divisions about the matter were still heavy. there were those who believed that it was a mere matter of kinship more or less closely related ( "the race wont betray the race"), and those who believed it was more a spiritual matter rather than material (hitlers view).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischling_Test
(to be noted that even today about 10-15% of europeans share jewish heritage, mostly without even knowing it, for a past conversion with christianity, or whatever reason)
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from the mein kampf
"Our racism is aggressive only against the jewish race. We speak of the jewish race for ease of reference because there is not, in the proper sense, and from the genetic point of view, a jewish race. However, there is a fact that without the hesitation one can attribute this qualification and that, moreover, was admitted by the jews themselves. It is the existence of a human being spiritually homogeneous group to which jews all over the world have awareness of belonging, whatever the country of which, administratively, they are citizens (...). The jewish race is first and foremost an inner race. If it comes from the Jewish religion, if it was partly shaped by the latter, however, while its essence is not purely religious. Because the jewish race includes, in the same way both atheists declared and the sincere practitioners. To this we must add the link represented by the persecution suffered during the centuries and that jews always forget to have caused. It is nevertheless true that each jew conceal in their veins some blood specifically jewish. Otherwise it would be impossible to explain the permanence of their physical traits that belong to them exclusively and invariably find themselves at very different jews, for example, Polish and Moroccan jew (...) An inner race is something more solid, more durable that not a biological race. Transplant a german in the United States and you will make an american. The jew, wherever he goes, is a jew. It is a being naturally unassimilable. "
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Interesting, I myself found very rare the definition of a race based on a religion (the spiritual bonding mentioned before), I pondered if it was also some specifical physical traits (marriage between only jews will make this), I think it's a mix of both that makes a person feel a strong belonging feeling of being jew.
However it's still hard to grasp why Hitler and most of the nazis had so much loathe for jews... pointing their fingers to them as to be the cause of Germany's demise and deeming necessary a purge by cruel deaths of millions (executions, forced labor, poison gas). This is why I think it would be impossible to have jews in the german army, the hate was too high, but I get that it would be more "admissable" if they were considered "half-breed".
Oh boy, it seems humans always look for another human to hate to feel better at themselves, most of the times dehumanizing them is easier :/ (I think of violent fans of rival sports team who even share the same nationality as an easy example).
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i think the answer to that lies in that particular period of time. the first post-ww1 for germany was a total mess. to give the idea, currency pruduction costed almost the same the currency itself. the governments efforts were focused only in settle the debt toward international banks that had lent money for reconstruction. this quickly created a stagnant economic situation, with catastrophic social consequences. scarcity of basic necessities, extreme poverty, inadequate public services, and the discontent due to the defeat in war. the jewish bourgeoisie of that time was not touched by this at all. they were snooty from inside theyr manors, complete with servants and every kind of luxury, speculating money and buying all the media propaganda such as theaters, cinemas and newspapers (this is even described in the anne frank diary). they were constantly accused of spreading neo-marxist propaganda on the wake of the russian revolution and degenerate behavior. the first gay pride parade was organized at that time by jew hirschfel. to consider also that jews and communism was considered as a whole (the first urss government was almost completely jewish), and the persecution of christians, muslims and judean and the sad end of the romanov family during the october revolution was well known.
cant talk about the deaths as the italian democrat party (for as ironic as it sounds) a while back had the brilliand and not-at-all-liberticide idea to consider any talk about the holocaust that differ from the official narrative as a crime punishable with imprisonment
given that, i will just leave this here and gladly take my leave
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Dude saying white supremacy for Hitler doesn't count because he was half jew is racist. At least say like half white supremacy can count for him please.
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So, first thing I thought of was this (basically, it's not constructive to call others Hitler or a Nazi just because you disagree)
But, after reading the post you linked, I feel like you're confused about some aspects of Hitler, or maybe put more emphasis on things that here in Germany are seen as secondary behind, you know, killing people, internment camps, starting a war ... I see you not liking Erdogan - for Germans, that's kind of what Hitler was. (I don't know much about Erdogan, but from what I hear, he seems to be moving in a Hitler-direction more than Merkel).
To clarify, you didn't grow up in Germany, most of the people you were arguing there did. We talk about Hitler/the 3rd Reich/the time leading up to it + after it A LOT at school. Like, about one whole semester every year in history class (EVERY. F***ING. YEAR.), and we read novels related to it in our German class and even other language classes (e.g. we read Schindler's List in our English class). You seem to have a very different impression of who Hitler was & what he did than most Germans, at least in the forums, that's probably where that came from (that, and some gaping logic wholes in your arguments). Same goes for comments on refugees coming here to rape everyone and Merkel being happy about it or something stupid like that. You're not here, how would you know?
That said, I highly doubt you're Hitler. I really don't think he would've bothered to learn English + open up a Steam account ...
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I'm just not close minded and I don't bash my head over "he evil he evil". No person is evil, every person has a cause and every person has a way to achieve it. People claiming he's a racist idiot is just pathethic, because you cant rebuild a country and be a jew (half) and be racist towards your own bloody "race"... Fuck me... This is the issue, while I study freaken world history and my own history in school, you study how evil Hitler was, while America studies how America is only heroes and shit... This is like seriously wtf... Erdogan is literally the second Ottoman empire, at least the way he speaks is literally the way they were... Idk why I bother... people got their own fixed opinion and don't try to be a bit more open minded. I'm evil. Yay, I should be killed... Yay... Merkel and her allowing some idiotic actors controlling the way she operates got us this crisis. Yay... And you're right. There's no way I can know what's going there, because the media covers it... But then I have friends who live in Germany and saw most of that stuff with their own eyes... Guess I shouldnt believe them and just watch the media which proves day by day how they are hiding stuff for no logical explanation. Marry x-mas. I have a bday in 12 days. Feel free to kill me on that day for my "nazi views" as everyone claims ^^
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Why would I want to kill you? And why do you think only your country studies "world history" in school? We did a bunch of that too, and I'm sure the US has some of it (though I somewhat agree about the US, went to the American History Museum in DC and their role in WWII was described very differently from what we learnt in school, of course they're the heroes)
I was just pointing out that the people you were arguing with had a very different perception of Hitler, and that that's probably where the friction is from (Germans are pretty sensitive to anyone trying to relativize his actions overall - I'm sure he did some good things for some people, but there's just no excuse for the bad things).
As for the refugee issue - I'm sure I read somewhere in those threads that you don't believe mainstream media, that's why I was skeptical. I don't know your friends or their experience, but honestly, I've been living in German cities most of my life, and so far I've had way more scary moments with neo nazis and just drunk people than refugees or even regular immigrants. I have friends who, although they actually are German, don't look that German and are scared to walk through certain areas because of that. And I literally just came home from a thing, and on the tram ride home there were a whole bunch of young guys (early 20s maybe) from Libya (at least the loudest one said he was from there). They had loud music on and an elderly woman asked them to turn it down, they yelled at her in their language (even though they spoke some German later). At no point did anyone on the train seem scared (just annoyed, really). Then they moved on, and turned off the music for most of the ride (it was hip hop, in English btw). It was a full train, two of the guys stood right next to me, and, can you believe it, I didn't get raped, or groped, and they didn't steal anything! Then again, I've read about hooligans + neo nazis on full trains harassing women + left wing politicians, throwing stuff at them. This is all just anecdotal, as are your friends' accounts, but yeah, don't generalize like that (and seriously, I don't think Merkel's happy about violence from either side ... also, just to be clear, I've never voted for Merkel and never will, but I don't mind her winning over more right wing choices, of which there luckily aren't many)
And happy early birthday? You don't sound like you want to celebrate though :(
Edit: Extra anecdote because why not - coach ride from Berlin to Leipzig, 15 minutes before arrival a German guy in the front starts loudly saying/chanting something about the peaceful revolution in Leipzig 25 (now almost 30) years ago. People start getting annoyed (he keeps repeating the same sentence in German + bad/broken Spanish), the bus driver (not German looking, but probably born here) asks him politely to stop, he's annoying the other passengers. Chanting guy starts ranting at the bus driver, racist slurs + death threats, which gets to the bus driver enough to make a stop literally 2 minutes before we reach the destination. Chanting guy challenges the bus driver to call the cops, says he knows people in Berlin who'll kill him (not sure at this point if he was talking about himself or the bus driver). Some people on the bus defend the bus driver, volunteer as witnesses for the police. It was scary, since the guy talked as if he had nothing to lose. If he'd had a knife or something with him, he might've ended up stabbing the bus driver, just because he asked him to please keep it down.
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Getting older ain't a reason the celebrate the first place. And I am so bored of arguing over the same stuff already... there was this guy posting links with stuff, go watch his stuff. Oh and...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkxA4BliUwM&t=542s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmLfCHF3skk
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Thanks for more anecdotes? How does this have any more value than my own anecdotes, or anyone else's? Stop generalizing after watching a few youtube videos is all I'm saying. Things aren't black and white.
(not saying you have to celebrate, but aksing others to kill you seems a bit extreme)
(And if you don't want to argue over this, why did you open a thread about it? You literally initiated a conversation with everyone who feels like having that conversation.)
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Here's the grand issue.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO LITERALLY KILL ME. IT WAS FUCKING IRONY...
Some times...
This is why I don't want to continue. I use self irony, sarcasm and stuff like that and people take me seriously. When I mean something literally, I LITERALLY say LITERALLY... Fuck me... I should start pointing out every small detail in my messages... AND I DON'T MEAN LITERALLY TO FUCK ME...
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I used "literally" the same way, in case you didn't notice. I get that you weren't actually asking me to kill you, otherwise I probably would've used "literally" in there. I just don't get why you're bringing up killing at all, while trying to portray yourself as fun and open. It seems very depressive. "It's my birthday soon, please kill me because you seem to not like me" does not sound like a joke to me, at least not a funny/good one. Especially on a forum where you can just ask for blacklists instead. Work on your jokes, maybe you'll get fewer "you're a nazi"s from people :P
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I never claimed to be fun. But I'm open... But now you made me sad so you owe me a bday gift. -.- actually nvm just saying that made ppl hate me even more. Now I'll just go to bed annoyed. Ty a lot.
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Irony and sarcasm are forms of humor, thus I assumed you wanted to be some sort of fun. Sorry for ... hm, making you sad? How? I assumed you actually wanted to discuss this, because you replied to pretty much everyone here, but now you're pulling the victim card, so I can only surmise you actually are a troll and all out of arguments. Hope you have happy dreams to get you out of your funk. I'm still not convinced you're a nazi, if that helps.
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spends, literally whole day on this. Gets called a troll when tired at 4 AM... What more can I say? Victim 2k17, is when you're literally tired and people had flamed you whole day! Guess I'm no victim, I'm a criminal! Brb losing my crime virginity, as I cant allow myself to be so pure in actions...
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Well, if all the replies in your thread tired you out, that's fine, but don't put your sadness on me. I also didn't force you to stay up late. You opened this thread, I tried to provide an angle to help you understand where the people you argued with were coming from, and added my own thoughts, since that's kind of what we do here. You're free to not like what I have to say, disagree, bring counterarguments (not more random anecdotes), but you just said I made you sad and implied I made you look bad so others don't like you now. You're playing the victim in your own thread when people reply honestly. That seems like a troll tactic. (I actually thought you were more or less just trolling in the thread you linked in the OP, but then you seem to also take the negative comments you got from it pretty seriously, so I have no idea what's up with you)
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what????? XDD How do you know how I play Payday???
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I'm playing solo. That's my only option :((( And others are mostly just rushing up and breaking my side-missions that way.
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OH nonono... I go in. Clear the guards. Tie up as many people as I can. if they start detecting me then I clean them up. I'm doing the mission in stealth until the end. I dont like going loud when I can avoid i t.
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I'm not really a pacifist XD But at least I did my monthly quest last night without killing anyone on first run xD
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Some missions are bit impossibrum. at least for me... but there's proes who like to carry me from time to time ._.
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I'm too noob for that. Or my PC is just too bad and i cant run better FPS/Textures to easify. IDK. But I'm not having such an easy time in stealth missions lately.
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The linked thread was obviously discussing the 'refugees' coming into Europe from Syria. Are people still peddling this nonsense? How much proof needs to be provided before people admit that there is an uncontrollable mass influx of immigrants who are not even remotely close to the government 'refugee' claim. I don't think it is necessary to dive into the bullshit that the 'refugees' are peaceful after all the gang rapes, attacks, molestations, etc, etc, etc. Anyone who denies these things are mentally disturbed and are simply hiding behind a wall of denial.
http://www.france24.com/en/20161222-2016-year-europe-ongoing-migrant-crisis
https://www.pcdsquill.com/single-post/2016/12/17/The-Uncomfortable-Truth-about-Refugees
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/europe-refugees-migrant-crisis-men-213500
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9204/germany-migrant-rape-outrage
Read any of the above links about your 'mostly families, women and children refugees'.... or would you rather keep pretending its not single adult males coming to leach off the welfare state and bring their radical religious ideology? Your call. Either way... at some point the civil wars will start... what side of that line do you really want to be on? The side of ignorance and 'multiculturalism' or the side of sanity, liberty, and nationalism? Hitler did a lot of unspeakable atrocities... and there is a time coming when some unspeakable atrocities will be required... the only difference would be that the Jews didn't deserve what they got... but I know a group who certainly does.
If you think that makes me racist, then I would suggest that you are simply just too ignorant to even have an opinion on the matter. That isn't superiority speaking... that is just a matter of fact. Please... click any link above... maybe the one where a 10 year old boy was raped and the judge ruled that the boy may have 'consented to sex'..... oh... I'm still racist? OK then! Better get back to your Hillary Clinton Folk Hero support group and prepare for the 2020 election.
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Paul? Is that you?
(check the date. They exposed me for something I wrote over a year. Please call me a prophet for saying all the media uncovered a year earlier)
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There is no Paul here... just a whole bunch of liberal throat punches dressed up as self evident truths.
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At least you provided what people kept asking off me while I was too busy NOT wanting to waste my time of searching. Thanks! I still said the truth a year earlier and got used as me as "expose kapy as hitler" shit. >.>
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Nothing pisses me off more than this western world suicide which is the direct result of idiotic liberalism. Germany willingly and even more so going out of their way, to bring in mass immigrants to destroy their own culture.... I get it... Hitler was bad... but you don't have to willfully enforce the destruction of your own nation out of embarrassment of your own past. It might shed some light on the reality of how bad things have gotten when people say - we actually literally need a hitler today to save the future of europe. Ha! How weird does that sound? It would be humorous if only it weren't true.
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Social justice warriors will actually help them, than to ask for help xD
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You mean that group of who U.S. soldiers mass-raped a minor, killed all her family and her, and then blamed Muslims for it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings
Hmmm... well... it doesn't really seem liberal to me to say that you personally are clearly as much to blame for what they did, but when you say that you take full blame for it too, then that is what you say, isn't it?
One case not enough? How about also in Iraq rape of boys in front of their mothers by U.S. soldiers? Or hundreds of cases of rape on civilians in Japan in recent years, with perpetrators mostly not going to prison, and in cases of thousands of fellow service-members raped there probably even less punishment if any at all?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/09/sexual-assaults-us-military-japan-prison-unlikely
Colombia, South Korea, and also in Germany a few years ago rape of a minor by persons working for U.S. military, and that it is not even talking about estimated 200 000 rape victims of U.S. military members post-WWII (which were somewhat overshadowed by estimated 800 000 rape victims of Red Army members - and Nazis themselves also having done similarly tho not sure about numbers besides those they enforced to be in brothels for soldiers of the German army, known as Wehrmachstbordell of which there were around 500 with 34 140 enforced prostitutes they snatched of the streets in Europe).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II
And so far only talking about cases by those in service of a few militaries, with there being more cases if one looks at e.g., U.S. citizen involvement as perpetrator. Or e.g. in Germany there having been thousands of rapes year by year with barely anyone getting sentenced even more than 5 years ago (previous to war in Syria many understandably fled from while not sending their daughters on the road in the hope of some job as many a refugee camp is barely running in the region and in many case camps were abandoned when help stopped, as you may have learned yourself if you weren't just interested in reading "scandal news"), and barely anyone went into the street to complain about anything, such as that the criminal law about rape seems to be way more in favour of promiscuous men than to uphold need of consent. So seems quite hypocritical what is being claimed by many agitators about the state of things, where no one of them insisted e.g. all German men be put in chains after a German killed step-daughter after she refused to have sex with him.
By which I myself to not mean to make an argument of that everyone would be better off with WWIII, since it should be obvious that there are many idiots all over the planet regardless of whatever alleged background (and e.g. someone calling themselves Christian is not necessarily any such - e.g. Orthodox would probably argue that even Trump isn't a Christian because he had a divorce instead of staying with first wive). But some guy using a mosque to promote killing of all alleged infidels does seem to have a lot in common with you who is using forum on SG likewise and apparently claims to be some representation of nation while can't even really represent himself, and I myself think that it is folks like the two of you who are in such ways way more part of the problem/s than part of any real solution.
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Hey DaLejd, I appreciate your response. That said, I do not understand what you are attempting to accomplish by comparing a terrible war atrocity to Europe's 'refugee' crisis. While we do not expect rapes during war, we do expect a certain level of violence to accompany a war. We do not expect violence or rapes to occur when allowing safe passage to and local acceptance of migrant refugee's. So these are not even remotely close nor comparable in nature.
Why would I take blame for a rape that I didn't commit? You really lost me on that one.
The whole point I made was that Western leaders are blatantly lying to their citizens claiming that the 'refugees' are families of women and small children when in reality they are a majority of single unaccompanied military-aged men who enter the countries, commit crime, violence, rapes, and the government takes NO ACTION against them because of the liberal bullshit claim that it would be 'racist' to arrest a criminal who is also a 'refugee'. This happens while the people who are being raped, and the victims of said crime, are paying taxes to the government who turn around and give that money to these 'refugees' to pay for housing and food. YOU CAME INTO MY HOUSE, ATE MY FOOD, RAPED MY DAUGHTER, AND WANT ME TO LET YOU STAY THE NIGHT. If you think that is acceptable, then I encourage you to seek out a curb stomping.
The problem is the LYING and the INACTION against crime.
I am not an idiot and I am not suggesting that ALL refugees are a problem, I am suggesting that LIES and allowing crime to continue through INACTION is completely unacceptable.
No one said US citizens are perfect nor Germans nor anyone from the west. We do however expect that the government would do its job to protect its citizens.
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You posted: "... Either way... at some point the civil wars will start... what side of that line do you really want to be on? The side of ignorance and 'multiculturalism' or the side of sanity, liberty, and nationalism? Hitler did a lot of unspeakable atrocities... and there is a time coming when some unspeakable atrocities will be required... the only difference would be that the Jews didn't deserve what they got... but I know a group who certainly does. ..."
Based on that anyone can make some misty threats in terms of "we already know where you live and you better submit to our view or you will become a victim of reasonable expectation of war violence". And I just showed that similarly e.g. Taliban can claim that war against government in Afghanistan is justified "because they lie and offering no real protection" or claim that war against government in Germany is justified because they lie about that U.S. military base which doesn't have anything to show for but crying children.
All those issues do not simply go away by screaming as much as you can about some guys you quickly put into a group while yourself refusing to be seen in a group of similar perpetrators. I mean, if there were a law requiring not only you to wear a electronic tracking device the moment you go anywhere but where your place of residence is at, all just for sake of alleged ultimate security and to be sure because where you are from some cases are known and therefore you are already a suspect of the same, is it all ok to you, or not? If not while you tho expect some groups to be treated that way, such would seem quite hypocritical, wouldn't it.
And look at your posts, at no point are you saying anything about how any of that what you say will change anything about not little sexual rampant in western societies even if not every time getting scandal headlines. So, assuming so guys just riding a populist train get into power, how exactly do they plan to protect in cases such as that of Fritzl the girl? Do they even really care at all about that, or is it just fun to them to use the suffering of some persons for own personal gain, such as that of positions funded by taxpayers?
As for just now realizing that politicians do not always speak the truth and care little about many criminality, how old are you? 12? Or only recently started to read any news? And of course there is plenty to talk about, but you telling e.g. neonazis in Germany that of course they can start mass-murder of every politician and perhaps not only while they are at it, that isn't any discussion but you enticing violence.
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"Either way... at some point the civil wars will start... what side of that line do you really want to be on? The side of ignorance and 'multiculturalism' or the side of sanity, liberty, and nationalism? Hitler did a lot of unspeakable atrocities... and there is a time coming when some unspeakable atrocities will be required... the only difference would be that the Jews didn't deserve what they got... but I know a group who certainly does."
I did post that and I stand by what I wrote. At some point in time the mass migrations and the crime they bring with them will push the local populations into violence as a result. I simply asked which side of that violence do people want to be on? The same side as their countrymen or the side of the migrants who are raping their culture, their government, their wallets, and their daughters? That is a very simple question.
But I digress, let's go full circle again - comparing a rape in a WAR to a mass gang rape by migrants at a European holiday event is not even REMOTELY close - and absolutely dismissive. That is like suggesting that because the US dropped an atom bomb on Japan in WWII that we should drop a nuclear bomb on Brazil - for no reason. In what mental capacity does that remotely make any sense? It doesn't!
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So what you are saying is that e.g. these two:
https://www.stripes.com/news/2-former-us-dependents-sentenced-for-2013-sexual-assault-in-landstuhl-1.403076
would have been ok to do so if U.S. were officially at war with Germany?
And that the ex-marine:
http://apjjf.org/2016/11/Takazato.html
would be getting a medal for that if U.S. were officially at war with Germany?
What's next? You apologizing for U.S. having invaded Germany because according to you Germans were just protecting their daughters against Bolsheviks, similarly to how Japan just protected their daughters against wild sailors from the U.S. many e.g. also French women did get to know first-hand?
Anyhow, since you again make a generalization about some category-group while at the same time completely refusing shame for all of U.S. soldiers or citizen about the teenager who was raped, such seems really hypocritical regardless of whether your motive is trying to divert attention or you just consider humans to be as if groups of insects with hive-minds or whatever.
And as far as actual issues about law and order go, if you not able to protect girls even from those who are by many considered as if the most trustworthy (and therefore why I focused so much on a "group" which clearly has papers and dog-tags proving that they are of one group), and you are not really making any argument about how to protect and ensure law and order (almost as if you are saying that girls ought to be grateful if they get whichever attention by some allegedly so great guys), such also seems very biased.
Myself, regardless of whether I would be cutting off dicks, or sending to labour camps, or whatever, I do not see that a difference about whether a perpetrator happened to be from some allegedly noble family or from whichever backwater region, and it is rather obvious that kids of wealthy are not really less likely to not be perpetrators even if some cases may not have some sentence due to financial out-of-court settlement.
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Look genius, the points you are attempting to make are complete bullshit.
2 rape cases over the last 4 years compared to 500+ rapes, attempted rapes, and sexual assaults reported since the migrants invaded the EU. Do you notice any difference? If you don't then you should really just stop talking.
Did I say that 'all people of Islam are rapists'? No, I didn't. What I did say, was the facts... that a bunch of immigrants (who I did not label by religion or race) came to the EU and are now committing mass rapes. All you have to do is look at Sweden.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape
Rapes are up 1,470% - now go ahead and say 'USA people raped 2 women' as if that means anything.
There are rapes and crime all over the world - that is true - but nobody rapes and commits crime at the same rate as these immigrants - and to argue that simple fact makes you ignorant.
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In the link I posted about cases in Japan, there were thousands by U.S. service members in quite recent years, of which at least hundreds involved civilian Japanese women. Where is you saying that they should all go to hell and that Japanese better get ready to pick sides of whether they are on the side of the good and noble Japan or on the side of traitors letting their country be raped? Nowhere because you do not care about even killed Japanese women as you care about playing a blame game?
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Ok sure, except your claims of 'thousands' of rapes cannot be substantiated. There are a few cases that resulted in prosecution of those US service members. Also, the rapes are followed by mass protests to remove the US military from Okinawa... so there is plenty of blame going around and people are being sent to jail for the crimes. So again, your argument is invalidated through factual research.
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several hundred cases in a time-span of some years
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/09/sexual-assaults-us-military-japan-prison-unlikely
a dozen or so cases are year, tho quickly adding up also
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2011/10/us-military-south-korea-status-of-forces-agreement-sofa-rapes-intenational-diplomacy.html
"Empty promises: Japanese rapes by US military ‘just keep happening’ "
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/343876-us-base-woman-okinawa/
"Japan asks U.S. to finally stop military-related rapes, deaths"
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/japan-us-military-related-rapes-deaths-okinawa/
"Overall, FAP counted 5,378 child abuse and neglect victims in military families in 2015."
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-child-abuse-military-20161229-htmlstory.html
"In 2012, a confidential Pentagon survey estimated that 26,000 men and women were sexually assaulted. Of those, 3,374 cases were reported."
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/us/military-sex-assault-report.html?_r=1
But hey, let's keep posting links to some articles by persons no one heard of before, and let's not talk about such weird sources such as the Pentagon, huh?
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First off, you're a fucking moron. The articles I posted are all from credible news sources - so why would you even attempt to go after the source? Just proves your a fucking moron.
Secondly, child abuse and neglect has nothing to do with rape. Has nothing to do with 'thousands' of rapes in Japan.
Thirdly, the Pentagon figures are for INTERNAL military rapes (as in American military members raping other American military members). So that has no bearing on the conversation about 'thousands' of rapes in Japan.
Next, your first link - says "More than 1,000 records, obtained by the Associated Press through the Freedom of Information Act, describe hundreds of cases in graphic detail, painting a disturbing picture of how senior American officers prosecute and punish troops accused of sex crimes." - that does not say 1,000 records in JAPAN.
So back to basics, your claim that '1000's' of rapes in Japan cannot be substantiated through factual evidence. Furthermore, the punishments, jail time, and protests are just even more proof that you are wrong in saying 'you do not care about even killed Japanese women as you care about playing a blame game?". Obviously, those individuals were BLAMED and some punished when evidence to the crime were available.
Lastly, going full circle, you're a fucking moron who can't even copy and paste articles to prove a point... they just go to further disprove your point.
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Also, here are some links to your 'American's are raping boys' claims.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/22/asia/afghanistan-boy-abuse-us-military/
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/424621/afghan-militarys-child-rape-michelle-malkin
Do you think we don't know about your little secret? We know all about it bro.
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So your argument is "because some do it anyone can" ? That is pre-school level, isn't it? How about instead showing the world how to have firstly troops in order with no officers covering up:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/05/19/witness-raped-us-military-retaliated-against-life
Anyhow, you apparently already accusing me personally in some revenge drive where you perhaps expect me to be all scared now to end up in KZ, while you probably would be scared to have a fist fight against me if you were to see me face to face, such seems quite ridiculous. And I doubt any of your like what, 14-year old friends, would charge just because you told them to. Seriously, want a fight, come and get it... idiot.
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Lets go over this real quick here pal since you seem to have some issues.
I didn't accuse you of personally doing anything. If I were to accuse you of something, it would be the inability to create a coherent and understandable sentence in the English language. Which isn't my gripe since I expect you are using google translate or similar and am happy that such devices exist in order to allow cross cultural communication.
Moving on, I dont know what KZ stands for. I don't know why you are now threatening me to a fight... while claiming that I am 14 years old. Isn't it the immature who resort to violence? That would make you the 14 year old, not me. I would strongly suggest that you calm down there pal... and I don't say that because you have frightened me, I say that because in a civilized society we use our words. This isn't Islamabad here guy.
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You are the one preaching about some apocalyptical war about to happen (and as if there were only two sides), in which perhaps millions killed are all as if fair game as long as someone said that there is a war going on. You are the one making it look as if your alleged group were all noble while some other group were all bad. You are the one talking about Germany as if you were an expert while you don't even know what KZ stands for. And you are the one who associated me with an issue that is not only an issue in some backwater region while in the overall context of your posts you having marked me already for removal in that war you seem to looking forward to in the name of some alleged civilized purity or whatever.
Tho yeah, English is 3rd language I speak. How many languages do you speak by the way? Just barely English?
Anyhow, point still stands that in my view neither Germans nor U.S. citizen are really as if that much better about anything if one takes a handful of examples to potray a picture of some alleged whole group. But hey, it isn't me being on mission e.g. in Afghanistan exposed to those who may just copy what you said and turn it the other way about Americans being rapists and that people ought to pick sides and blahblah. So, while I tried to talk some sense (into you), if you find it hard to read those few sentences I wrote and claim it to be surely true so for everyone else, I sure to not mean to as if be stalking you while you keep on with that drivel. Still seems overally quite sad that many died and are dying just because some pseudo-intellectuals in various parts of the planet want to sound all important and ever so clever.
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Maybe you don't get out much... or read the news much... but the EU is being swept with anti immigration political parties who are making MASSIVE gains in political power. If you can't understand what comes next... then good luck. I never said any group was 'noble', I simply stated the facts.
If you want to read some nonsensical 'between the lines' 'undertones' that don't exist then that says more about your own position and mental state on the issue than mine. I don't invent your intent or your words at my pleasure - despite you attempting to do that to me.
I just barely speak English? Yeah... that must be it, considering you can't even understand what I ACTUALLY said compared to what you WANT me to have said to fit some bullshit narrative you seem to have. I also speak Thai, Tagalog, and Spanish. So feel free to take your disrespectful comment and shove it up your ass.
You never tried to talk any sense. You tried to twist things around, and did a very poor job at it. Are you doing that because you are a 'migrant' who moved to the EU? Are you doing that because you are a far left liberal trying to prevent the truth? What are your motivations to come here and blatantly lie about PROVABLE statistics and try to suggest that 'there is no immigrant issue - look the US military committed 2 rapes in the EU - don't look at the immigrant gang rapes - don't look at the police no-go zones'.
http://www.savemysweden.com/category/muslims-rape/
Or maybe you think 'keeping an arms length' will dissuade the the muslim rape gangs?
Or maybe you are a fan of and take part in the 'rape game'?
This is you:
"So, while I tried to talk some sense (into you), if you find it hard to read those few sentences I wrote and claim it to be surely true so for everyone else, I sure to not mean to as if be stalking you while you keep on with that drivel."
Now, if you want to continue on with whatever the hell the above is attempting to say, why don't you make it coherent and relative (unlike what it is now) with factual contexts. Otherwise there is no reason for you to come back and type out a bunch of nonsense that does not even remotely make any sense.
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Your words were clearly of that you support such parties while you probably do not know anything about them, such as that many of them are actually anti-NATO and would be glad to be not beside U.S. anymore and let them rot for all they care. For many of them it isn't some game of as if some country club of "whites allowed only" since e.g. in Nazi Germany no one ever talked about some "white race" as many in the U.S. seem to be talking about. For Nazis the master race was clearly and only Aryan or German, with pretty much having planned to eradicate after Jews in Europe pretty much everyone considered Slavic next, all simply because considered by ideology to be weed no matter what they did or didn't do (albeit anything they did do great for propaganda purposes - while at the same time completely ignoring any such case from "own" guys, ergo clearly not having made any consequent argument about protecting anyone as just living some sadistic fantasies). And many of those who are descendants of immigrants to the U.S. can not really hope for to be accepted as if brothers even if they claim some mystical white heritage. Yet many in the U.S. seem to be happy about such parties, and supporting them even with notions of that if they take up arms that they are justified to do so, as e.g. your post clearly said that it is "sane".
You trying to twist your own words and just blaming me for not being able to speak English, such is ridiculous. Again, in your words you posted:
"Either way... at some point the civil wars will start... what side of that line do you really want to be on? The side of ignorance and 'multiculturalism' or the side of sanity, liberty, and nationalism?"
So what you yourself said is that once the war starts, I better pick on whether I will be on the side of sanity and shoot me some Americans as well, who are from some other culture and will be noted as reasonable casualties of war, or whether I will be quite stupid to not do so.
I am native to where I live, as Prussian, unlike many Germans actually, even tho allies claimed that Hitler having robbed Prussia did well on that apparently, while Kennedy invited everyone to Berlin to see for themselves. And as local I know that there were year and year again thousands of accusations of rape of which barely any made it to court, while there are neonazis running around torturing and killing even someone who just happens to be a bit disabled and doesn't walk as some neonazi guy deems alright. If you think that it is ok to empower them in their believes according to which more than 30 000 women enslaved in Europe (and also German women) to serve as sex slaves for German soldiers during WWII is apparently still considered as if all fair game, and as if such belief is being anyhow mature or even the only sane approach to it all, then that is what you think. I mean, if I were a Neonazi I would feel quite empowered by your post to not just wait for some stupid elections but to start now protecting the motherland against all that imperialist scum no matter whether capitalist wall-street elite or Arab backwater village. And that seems quite ridiculous since e.g. looking at Chicago with apparently at least one murder every day, looking at statistics of U:S. where apparently one third of U.S. women experienced in their lives domestic violence (with not few cases of these not being able to talk about it anymore), cases such as e.g. U.S. citizen who killed teenager from Ireland after having raped her (and there are plenty such cases, but that would take hours to dig up every link on cases where at least an article exists - especially if one were to talk also about e.g. in Ukraine some guys from wealthy families having mass-raped and murdered, and also many cases involving German citizen), etc. etc., it isn't really as if e.g. U.S. were that an expert on these matters as they can get even their own lines in order.
If you had a real solution or approach to deal with those matters and not treating it just as if your problem were that some of the refugees from countries also U.S. is bombing do not have your personal permission to do as you let do many of your fellow brothers, then such surely would easily apply to it all without making it look as if being raped by you were any different to being raped by anyone else.
As for situation in Sweden known from some years back about Assange who got special treatment after having been sought for testimony in rape claim, that such attracts idiots isn't really that surprising. On whether Swedes should simply just kill everyone or whatever, that isn't for me to decide while U.S. would probably be among the first to complain about human rights not respected and so on and all that whining so many native English speakers surely seem quite experts in while they keep on raping all around the world.
Anyhow, yeah, I think we are done here. But if winning an argument is something you care so much about, how about we settle with that I state that your argument sounds very convincing that I know may consider joining some of the only sane around, and get ready to bomb some Americans as well in the name of protecting everything that is good against them bloody migrants? Good enough? Or yet again not as nothing one does being considered inferior can possibly be good enough?
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Dude, google translate isn't helping you at all.... I am staring at a wall of text that means literally nothing in the english language. Like honestly... there is just nothing to respond to here because nothing makes sense.
If you are an EU native, and are okay with your mother and sister, wife, daughter... etc. getting raped by these 'refugees' then that is your own business.... you should probably seek out a mental health professional... but still your own business.
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Short version: to German Nazis there is no white race, but there is only the German master race. And cynically put, you convinced me that only they are the really sane (even tho I didn't really understand why you would be supporting anti-NATO movements) and that it is time to get rid of all imperialist scum, regardless of whether some capitalist wallstreet elite ruled by Jewish immigrant or some Arab backwater village guys thinking that dying for some king is an honour.
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Honestly, reading your ignorance is absolutely exhausting. I just refuse to continue to do this.
I didn't support anti-NATO movements, I didn't support getting rid of 'imperialist scum', I didn't support any of this shit.
I said, the EU need to stop their cultural suicide by halting open immigration and 'refugee' policies. PERIOD. Send the immigrants back, send the 'refugees' back... and if you do not, then the people will do it through electing a new government who will do it. ANYTHING else you seem to think I did say - is of your own implicit creation.
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Do you have that proof for those 1200 incidents you claim that happened yet, while you yourself said minutes later that proven until guilty is normal? Or does that apply only to some while others have to deal with being sentenced to being bombed by whoever just like that?
And I heard you loud and clear that I have only two options: to pick the side of the sane fighting for their motherland against all imperialist (gotta decorate it a bit to motivate the masses, you know), or to pick the side of those that claim that there is room for U.S. corporations with their culture in Germany in some insane name of multiculturalism. And know after I yesterday perhaps already bombed something you seriously mean to tell me that such wasn't at all what you meant? Duuude. I know, too scared of some court, huh? But no worry, we'll soon liberate you too, and then you get to work for the glory of the German race and its leader. :p
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WORD FOR WORD
Your call. Either way... at some point the civil wars will start... what side of that line do you really want to be on? The side of ignorance and 'multiculturalism' or the side of sanity, liberty, and nationalism?
Pick the side of immigrant rape or pick the side of your own national interests.
You are a fucking retard. Eat a million dicks.
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So I pick a side and I declare war on U.S. military being in Germany. Happy? I mean, what Neonazis are saying is that Americans a in terms of genes inferior anyhow, similar to them Jewish immigrants, you know, sitting in the White House as well probably just waiting for an opportunity to make a coup. So me just telling Americans to go home, that doesn't sound that bad, does it?
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Well if your free loading nation actually kept to the NATO alliance terms then you would be spending the appropriate portion of your national GDP on defense and the US military could go home. Unfortunately for all of us, you are a bunch of free loaders who don't follow the terms of the treaty - and thus your government requests the US Military presence there.
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That part was a partial agreement talking about the year 2024 I think. Anyhow, did you pay for all those salaries for non-U.S. soldiers e.g. in Afghanistan which went there and many died there too in the name of defending the U.S.? As far as I know you didn't. So if anyone ought to be paying money, it should rather be the other way around.
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The NATO agreement was to spend 2% GDP on defense - upon signing of the treaty. Here is a list of current statuses:
http://time.com/4680885/nato-defense-spending-budget-trump/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nato-calls-for-rise-in-defence-spending-by-alliance-members-1434978193
As for Afghanistan....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/7/us-taxpayers-pick-up-tab-for-coalitions-food-and-l/
Also, what does Afghanistan have to do with the NATO alliance spending requirement? NOTHING. You just bring up shit that is irrelevant trying to focus on other issues because you know you are fucking WRONG. Everything you have posted is WRONG. PROVEN WRONG. Just stop.
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"NATO members agreed in Wales in 2014 to increase their spending on military within a decade."
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/aufruestung-trendwende-bei-nato-ausgaben-14329315.html
This article in English mentions it itself about that 2014 meeting, with "by 2024":
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/02/daily-chart-11
U.S. media presenting a different picture with you even saying as if it were directly in the NATO treaty even tho an derived from an agreement made not even 3 years ago, such doesn't change anything about what was agreed upon in Wales in 2014.
And that article about Afghanistan doesn't even mention whether that bill is for NATO members, with in Afghanistan not only having been NATO members.
Anyhow, since you say that the only sane thing to do is to view it all as that there is someone deserving a holocaust, and that I should just shut up and get to work about it, I suppose that is what you are saying and I better obey if I don't want to get nuked, huh?
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Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN07134
"In 2006, NATO allies set a target to spend 2% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) on defense." That is called 11 years ago not 3. The 2014 agreement was that the members would FINALLY adhere to their commitment that was committed to in 2006 and never followed through... which funny enough was not followed through on a second time. Only NOW that Trump has threatened to leave NATO are your free baggers finally starting to adhere to promises you already made well over a decade ago.
YET ANOTHER OF YOUR POSTS PROVEN WRONG. Just stop. Seriously... you are absolutely and laughably ignorant and continue to embarrass yourself... I am embarrassed for you.
Civil wars can be done politically and not violently... its time you idiots vote out the liberal trash who are destroying your nations through open gate immigration policies.
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"At a summit in 2014, NATO reiterated its commitment to the 2% target. Members that fell short at the time promised to meet their obligations by 2024."
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/02/daily-chart-11
That was the agreement. Not some "everyone has to pay right now" just because some guy in the US all of a sudden says so while claiming that he is also protecting Germany at it. But yeah, if you guys claim that plain English we do not understand over here, you guys would be better off leaving already, wouldn't you...
Or what's next? You guys claiming that Germans ought to pay for the mess that the U.S. left behind in Iraq, as if Germans were your personal nannies?
And that a "civil war can be done politically", sounds quite newspeak to me. Perhaps you may want to check first your own dictionary on the meaning of words you are throwing around while you are claiming that you are an expert in the English language?
Anyhow, I never said that my English is perfect. But I understood pretty well that you said that some deserve to become victims of a holocaust. Nothing civil about that. But once again I am wrong and I better get back to work on that holocaust, huh? E.g. Ivanka Trump is coming to Berlin I heard, with Merkel having invited her to have a session of multiculturalism. According to you probably bloody immigrant wanting to rape everyone, huh?
Btw, not really that much an open-border policy as there is respecting international conventions about refugees, such as not letting civilians die in some weird war. But something you probably do not care about while some of those parties will probably just insist on refusing to abide by international law and as you seem to be saying rightly so. But perhaps you should tell e.g. CIA to stop preaching about human rights all the time as it isn't possible to stick to that while at the same time refusing obligations coming from that as you yourself seem to be saying that it would be proper to do so.
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Read your own article "reiterated' as in already agreed to previously and not upheld.
Define civil war - a war between citizens of the same country.
Define war - a state of competition or hostility between different people or groups.
IE a political civil war is a war between liberal idiots and the rest of the population. Britian had that political civil war - BAM - Brexit. America had that political civil war - Bam - Trump. France is having that civil war - BAM - maybe le pen is elected. Then you have the AfD in germany polling high enough to get seats. You have Italy looking for Exitaly. Spain wants out of the EU. Liberlism is failing globally... and doing so at the polls. No one said anything about killing and holocausts you twat.
You might want to move it along now guy since you don't seem to know pretty much anything in regards to what you are making comments about.
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So you are saying that you are no one who did imply that someone deserves what Jews had happened to them. From your post:
"and there is a time coming when some unspeakable atrocities will be required... the only difference would be that the Jews didn't deserve what they got... but I know a group who certainly does."
And the civil war in the U.S. was just a disagreement at polling stations?
This guy would probably have disagreed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Andersonvillesurvivor.jpg
But perhaps when you keep shouting at his grave how wrong he is and and that he should fuck off etc. etc. and to recognize your revision of everything just because it is you, that Mr. no one anonymous guy on the internet, perhaps then his relatives will apologize to you for him, huh?
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I never said the US Civil war was a disagreement at the polls - I said the Trump election was. I said that Brexit was. Some civil wars are obviously violent. You try to associate clearly constructed verbage to fit some moronic agenda that you have. Obviously the US Civil War was the bloodiest war in American history. Who the fuck said it was political? Fucking idiot.
"America had that political civil war - Bam - Trump."
As for the Jew situation.... you make implications that do not exist AGAIN. I did not say that there was a group worthy of a HOLOCAUST. I said there is a group who DESERVES atrocities.... those atrocities - in current day - would be the mass deportation of these 'refugees', the police retaking the no-go zones through brute force - see extreme police violence, etc. No one said a holocaust is ok. Fucking idiot.
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Can you cite even one know guy who ever called something a "political civil war"? When you start making up new terms, you may want to put some effort explaining those and not just assume that everyone totally gets your oxymoron of "a peaceful war".
Anyhow, some posts ago you said only "civil wars":
"Either way... at some point the civil wars will start... what side of that line do you really want to be on?"
while depicting it as if you had picked your side of the not-Lincolnfans already while trying to make it look as if the clearly better side to pick. Even if you meant some "well, peaceful war of course", your post didn't say so and I understood it as that you are saying that nothing but violence will settle the issue you have.
And again, you were not clear about that you didn't mean the holocaust in terms of that someone deserves it. Neonazis have already last year beat up more than 3000 persons who looked foreign to them just because they looked as they looked. So in such context with you claiming to be in the picture, not really that clever nor smart of you to say stuff which makes it sound as if you support even more extreme approach about it all without really having been clear what you meant, such as that use of word "civil war" was meant to be a political term, huh?
In other words, while you may consider it fun if someone tells someone to do your mother, that guy may not necessarily understand it as if talking about doing her hair, does he?
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The US does protect germany idiot.
https://militarybases.com/germany/
You claim to be a german native but clearly don't know jack shit about your own damn nation.
US Military units stationed in Germany:
2nd Cavalry Regiment: Vilseck, Germany
12th Combat Aviation Brigade: Ansbach, Germany
10th Army Air & Missile Defense Command: Kaiserslautern, Germany
US Army NATO Brigade: Sembach, Germany
7th Army Joint Multinational Training Command: Grafenwoehr, Germany
19th Battlefield Coordination Detachment: Kaiserslautern, Germany
21st Theater Sustainment Command: Kaiserslautern, Germany
7th Civil Support Command: Kaiserslautern, Germany
30th Medical Brigade: Sembach, Germany
16th Sustainment Brigade: Baumholder, Germany
18th Military Police Brigade: Grafenwoehr, Germany
66th Military Intelligence Brigade: Wiesbaden, Germany
5th Signal Command: Wiesbaden, Germany
Europe Regional Medical Command: Sembach, Germany
Landstuhl Regional Medical Command: Landstuhl, Germany
Europe Regional Dental Command: Sembach, Germany
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...says the guy who claims that the American civil war was a disagreement at polling stations, lol.
Anyhow, I said that I am Prussian. That is different to German.
As for U.S. military presence, I do not feel anyhow protected about that really even if a few decades many of politicians in West-Germany were in panic about possibility of Soviets invading with Soviets having been a stone throw away. These days it seems more as if Germany is covering the back of U.S. while the U.S. did have secret prisons and invasions claiming some WMDs that were never found and torturing civilians to death, etc. etc.
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I never said the US Civil war was a disagreement at the polls - I said the Trump election was. I said that Brexit was. Some civil wars are obviously violent. You try to associate clearly constructed verbage to fit some moronic agenda that you have. Obviously the US Civil War was the bloodiest war in American history. Who the fuck said it was political? Fucking idiot.
"America had that political civil war - Bam - Trump."
Nobody gives a shit how you personally feel. Fuck your feelings.
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International convention of refugees agreed to in 1951 defines a refugee in article 1:
"A person who owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it."
That means when your so called 'refugees' return to their nation to take up arms in the war - they were never refugees to begin with.
Article 2 states:
Refugees shall abide by the national laws of the contracting states.
That means, you are not allowed to rape because rape is illegal. That means you are not allowed to practice sharia law, because the nation practices democratic law.
HOWEVER,
These articles were written with the intent for political refugees - people seeking refuge for political reasons... not for people displaced by war. Also, the UN's own figures state that illegal immigrants are being provided 'refugee' status who are not even remotely close to 'refugees'.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/10/10-truths-about-europes-refugee-crisis
http://www.unhcr.org/figures-at-a-glance.html
SO PLEASE JUST STOP YOUR IGNORANT COMMENTS. YOU KNOW NOTHING JOHN SNOW.
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Many of Syrians fled because they were afraid of being tortured if they refused to consider Assad some absolutist king, with particularly many men being drafted by the Assad regime without any real choice about it and others rather having run off (and/or sent by their families far away, perhaps in hope that they find some job from which to help the rest of the family a bit since the world doesn't care much about situation in refugee camps).
Such itself seems quite within that article no matter about whether there is a war going on or not.
Also:
"A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her country because of persecution, war, or violence."
http://www.unrefugees.org/what-is-a-refugee/
Are you gonna tell them that they know nothing too?
Not sure why you added something about "when they return to take up arms". That isn't the case with most of the refugees anyhow, albeit there sure may be some cases of former combatants.
And you adding something about sharia makes no real sense about that. I mean, if I could use sharia to deal with cases of sex assault, then it seems quite easy to just execute many as sharia seems to be quite clear about that any sex outside of marriage is not permissible at all, with capital punishment apparently not much an issue similarly to how it is on the books e.g. in the U.S. Not that I would have much an issue with there no sharia (which btw also quite a thing coming from Roman law) being useable, but if someone means to show as if sharia law to be something real good, they sure wouldn't make a proper argument by breaching their alleged as if own law, would they?
In regard to local law, as said, if some rich kid gets easily to walk free after cases of e.g. prostitution of a minor, then it is how courts deal with that no matter who sits on the bench of the accused. And I found that ridiculous already years ago, with cases such as mass rape of a drunk girl they then threw out in the cold, and most of the perpetrators just getting a probation sentence. But argument of some guys about as if it were a huge difference about whether the perpetrators are some local guys or happened to come with refugees, and that only the latter should be treated harshly, such is biased BS.
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What the UN website for idiots has to say about what a refugee is and what the ACTUAL AGREEMENT TEXT states are clearly two different things. I provided the EXACT verbage that defines a refugee as outlined in the international agreement. You provided a glossed over summary that is inadequate in its description based on the ACTUAL TEXT.
I pointed out 'when they return to take up arms' for that EXACT reason. Because the REAL TEXT says QUOTE "unwilling to return to it." - It as in their country - so if someone returns.... then they were NEVER a refugee to begin with under the ACTUAL AGREEMENT TEXT. You seem to have some serious reading comprehension issues.
Oh boy... Sharia law. Have you ever lived in an Islamist nation? No? Clearly. I have.... I have lived in a nation in the middle east that practiced Sharia law.... BUT PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT YOUR VAST AND INFINITE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT SOMETHING YOU HAVE NEVER ACTUALLY SEEN, BEEN A PART OF, OR HAVE EXAMPLES OF. Lets do a practical thought exercise.
You are a woman in a Sharia nation and you have been raped. Ok, you go to the police and report the rape. The man you accuse is arrested, as are you, and you go to trial. You testify that the man raped you, and he denies the claims. Maybe your sister also testifies that the man raped you. Ok great, you have two women accusing a man of rape. Now maybe.... your mother and daughter even join and confirm your testimony... so we have you accusing the man, and 3 witnesses. Ok great, so now since you failed to meet the criteria in a Sharia court the man is set free... because you did not provide 4 men or 8 women to testify on your behalf. But DONT WORRY... because as a rape victim, you will stay in jail or be stoned to death or receive 200 lashings... you know.... those fun sharia punishments.
https://www.saddahaq.com/truth-of-the-strict-sharia-law-against-rape
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/03/saudi-sharia-court-sentences-gang-rape-victim-to-200-lashes
Sharia law is nothing even remotely close to western law... to suggest they are is absolutely ignorant.
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You are quoting out of context.
Part 1:
"A person who owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country;"
A German fleeing from Germany during nazi times because he is afraid that as a socialist he may not even be drafted and just be put to death straight away, such is at that moment in time by that definition a refugee, even if he then later is willing to join up in armed forces of post-Nazi Germany.
Part 2:
"or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it."
Again, "unwilling", definition of that word is "not ready, eager, or prepared to do something". So, e.g. you may be today unwilling to read something properly instead of just interpreting it to fit your agenda, but perhaps already tomorrow you may be already willing to read it properly. Seems quite simple English there.
But thanks for pointing out that you have an issue to comprehend long English sentences and that my fluency may therefore not be that bad.
As for showing some cases in some jurisdictions, e.g. in the U.S. alleged witches were burned. And there were some executions of women for adultery too I think... pretty sure there were some in Europe even quite recently. Does that mean all that law in U.S. is stupid, or does it rather show that some stupid persons used law as they thought to be proper?
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will do it through electing a new government who will do it
DaLejd was trying to tell you here that virtually all the currently-empowered anti-immigration movements are also just as anti-NATO. Beyond that I also didn't understand much.
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I am not sure why he himself isn't wanting to leave NATO already, with many Germans clearly seeing "German culture" a thing, similarly e.g. in France etc., ergo NATO being multicultural.
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When did I say I didn't want to leave NATO? I do... I think all the mainland European countries are absolutely worthless. The US and Britain can still be allies... maybe some of the nordic nations... and the rest of you idiots can piss off.
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Great. Tell your leader.
I don't think that particularly Sweden or Finland cares about some of that alliance tho as they aren't in NATO even now, but hey, perhaps they change their mind after the U.S. sends someone like you who tells them that it is quite normal to send soldiers to die alongside U.S. soldiers and then the relatives of them are being told they are worthless and idiots , huh?
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Sweden participates in the Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council. They also participate in ISAF (international security assistance force).
AS FOR FINLAND....
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/finland-americas-next-top-ally-17494
http://www.finland.org/Public/default.aspx?contentid=346548&culture=en-US
it sounds like those goes "DONT PARTICULARALY CARE ABOUT SOME ALLIANCE".
You are a regular genius.
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Perhaps they are just scared of getting nuked so they pretend to be all like friends? Anyhow, if the U.S. is going to have a bilateral treaty with them, you sure be rubbing it in my face. As of now, you do not have, and with Trump calling a Swedish scientist / Nobel prize recipient known for his work proving global warming exists a Chinese hoax, it doesn't really sound as if Trump were to make much effort towards any such bilateral treaty.
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the criminal law about rape seems to be way more in favour of promiscuous men than to uphold need of consent
What does rape have to do with promiscuous men, and what are you even speaking about?
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If e.g. a prominent soccer player isn't sentenced for paid sex with a minor, then in terms of law it doesn't matter that much whether a prominent soccer player or some guy from wherever. And if the law was and is such then it is such, perhaps due to lawmakers making laws as to ensure that they can not be blamed after some drunk weekend instead of putting the interests of everyone else first.
In other words, the overall situation was quite miserable already years ago even if some only now complain as if the only problem were that some other guys dare to integrate into a society where females are considered to be just some objects the males of that society claim some shared ownership of without real regard to their rights. And just as if closing borders to everyone based on a number of cases, such doesn't really make that a difference about that overall situation even if in numbers some of those who have rapist tendencies rape somewhere else before the victims are perhaps also bombed by some Assad or freedom fighters or Russia or NATO all claiming to serve the interests of civilians and civilization. Which doesn't mean as if global approach to law enforcement is necessarily a proper way to deal with everything. But some cases of what is probably happening every weekend at some house parties by the allegedly so well behaved kids in way bigger numbers, if one wants to go total war on such issues then it surely should be overall and not some approach of as if "everyone be grateful if raped e.g. by Strauss-Kahn, but kill thousands if someone not considered a slave does the same".
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This guy's logic is - if there were already rapes committed in the EU before the migrants showed up.... then the migrants should also be allowed to rape women too... individually or in gang rapes or through the rape game.
If people cannot see the idiocy in this person's thoughts and actually agree with that type of logic then we might as well just let the nukes fly.
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Nah, the argument is that if you are ok with what e.g. Strauss-Kahn was accused of and no blame game there, then why all of a sudden that a problem with someone else?
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No one is ok with what Strauss-Kahn allegedly did. He was accused of rape in a civil court - not a criminal court - and the supposed victim of the rape settled the case out of court.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/12/22/what-really-happened-dominique-strauss-kahn/
The guy was arrested, put in jail, went to trial, etc, etc. Who did not place blame? What kind of stupidity are you offering here?
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And do you expect every Frenchman to not be allowed in the U.S. or anywhere anymore?
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If we mass emigrated 500,000 french people to the USA and then later found out that they had zero intention of assimilating to the culture, and started huge police no-go zones, gang rapes, etc.... then yes, I would expect the USA to revoke the criminals emigration status and ban further emigration from France. What is difficult to understand about that?
One french guy who was 'supposedly' a rapist - which was never proven in a court of criminal law (where the accused has to be proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt - unlike a civil court) - then there is not enough data to suggest that 1 french rape is consistent of a french rape epidemic. You compare 1 incident to 1200+ (in a SINGLE NIGHT) and expect them to be equal. You are absolutely idiotic.
Edited to provide link and update 500+ to 1200+. Also to reinforce the fact that you're an idiot.
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A Frenchman gets to be charged in civil court and settle out of court. And perhaps some other guys did too? Your argument doesn't makes sense about that whole "let that Frenchman be treated mildly but yet expect the same law system to treat anyone else harshly". Me saying that you can't have both based on whether some nation you consider best friends ever you would share your female relatives with, that isn't idiotic. It is quite simple. Idiotic is to expect that law enforcement ought to be harsh on some while not harsh on others, or to be mild on some while not being mild on others.
So either you expect the likes of also Strauss-Kahn to be hanged straight away, in which case anyone would, or you do not. To expect some treatment of these matters as if based on whether some kid of some business associate of yours has your favor, such isn't normal.
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Jesus FUCKING Christ you are retarded.
The criminal trial did not have adequate evidence to convict the guy to jail for the CRIME of rape. After that, the woman took the guy to civil court - to sue him for MONEY - and to avoid the COSTS of the second court (it is EXPENSIVE to go to court) he provided her a sum of money that SHE ACCEPTED to remove the court case.
SHE TOOK THE MONEY AND STOPPED THE CASE. What do you not understand about that? He was not treated MILDLY - he was treated the same way ANY defendant would be treated - and was PROVEN INNOCENT.
Literally just go fuck off back to your simpleton ways. WE DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO ACCUSATIONS EQUALS GUILT. We are a civilized nation where ACCUSATIONS MUST BE PROVEN. THIS IS NOT MOTHERFUCKING SHARIA LAW.
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Yet you say that there were 1200 incidents even tho most had no sentence with them. Or do you have actual proof for each of those alleged incidents?
Seems to me you are being the or more of a moron here.
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No, the only moron here is you. I have proven you wrong with every single post 'how come the laws were so mild for french people' - 'no, he was innocent in criminal court - and the woman settled her civil trial outside of court'.
I mean seriously - it is becoming clear you are just a fucking cuck of liberalism. The 1200+ incidents which, I did not claim - the victims did - are not sent to trial for many reasons. First - groping women in Germany is not a 'sexual assault' under the law because they never thought they would need to specifically state it as such - BUT IT IS NOW:
Other reasons include, the inability to identify the attackers - especially the gang rapes that were captured on film. How can the police not identify a bunch of rapists who were filmed raping? I don't know... maybe they don't have photos of all their 'refugees'. Also, the media, government, and police tried to silence the entire event because LIBERALISM.
The truth is now available. If you had enough of a brain to get a clue, you would already have one from all the times I have proven your bullshit written above to be bullshit. Now literally fuck off.
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Yet a few posts ago you claimed the sane side to be the one with liberalism. So what now?
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no, i certainly did not.
I am waiting for the invention of the 'over the internet bitch slap' because you certainly require one.
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"The side of ignorance and 'multiculturalism' or the side of sanity, liberty, and nationalism?"
Liberalism and liberty are not just words which sound similar, they actually have the same root in them. Which I could try to explain to you, but you probably wouldn't care anyhow...
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No, they do not. Liberty is a word founded from libertarianism not liberalism. You cant even write english properly and want to give me a lesson on what words mean... that is real rich.
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Those words come from old Greek, as many other words, except for staple English words such as "fuck" or "shit". Englishmen learned in historical terms quite recently how to write, thousands of years after many others did, even if you think that English is the center of the world.
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Nat.Socialism not NAZI. Nazi is a term used in the Bible which means Christian. It was introduced in 1940s from the jews. You all should learn for what Hitler fought and that he predicted the situation we have now. But then again you are all brainwashed by the propaganda and live in your own bubbles like a rats. There will come a day that people will cry for person like Hitler but it will be too late. Europe is already plagued by multiculturism, same is happening in the USA. But Hitler was evil...yea right...
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As world is going to hell it will be hail muslims....
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No issue. Just give the common folk of bulgaria the right to defend their boarders, give em a gun and... well... I don t think anyone is getting in Europe that way XD
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Nazi in Hebrew means prince, and it is a coincidence that the word Nazi in German language used already priorly to 1940 was that, albeit not without irony if one knows how cruel some feudal family members were towards peasants.
As for Adolf Hitler, he was a sadistic junkie who just happened to be in charge of formerly mostly Prussian military in tradition of being drilled to obey king of Prussia (who in 1871 became Emperor of Germany, but then 1918/19 that empire was officially abolished albeit Germany was in structure still very similar until Hitler came to power, at which point all that previous SA street terror with which political competition was terrorized was replaced by systematic oppression of any political opponents through means of taking media into Nazi hands and plenty more). And Nazis surely had a highway built so that tanks could travel quicker, but that was about it all really, especially if one doesn't consider stealing and robbing anything they could get their hands on a real achievement. So, Germans themselves do not really have anything to thank him for even if there are some guys claiming that nazism was as if some magical thing that gave people power while it in fact was nothing but a pretend ideology in the name of the nation for some guys to just have some 'fun' at the expense of anyone else. Seriously, if you went to ask German neonazis to name at least one great thing Hitler allegedly did, would they name something?
As for mentioned 'sadistic junkie', former Plötzensee prison was a place were they even made video for Hitler for entertainment mistreating prisoner/s, which may not be known much due to how cruel that treatment was but is a fact. Similarly to how e.g. what Klaus Barbie all did usually not something many could talk about due to it having been extremely mad. And that Hitler used quite an amount of drugs, also not that unknown.
Anyhow, if you wish for someone to come and mistreat all your family, perhaps execution right away or years of labour, and all that just because they may have felt like your hair isn't pure enough and clearly a sign of that you are not an inbred result and therefore with no right to live, or because in their blood-lust anyone was considered ok to be sacrificed for the fun of the Nazi gang, then such is I suppose your wish regardless of whether you are so much into what you perceive as SM or have somehow been brainwashed into thinking that sacrificing your life for the glory of the leader is the best that could happen. But that doesn't change anything about that Nazis abused about anything and anyone, even own party guys.
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Hitler was not a nazi, nazi is not national socialist. Neo-nazis are just bunch of white supremacist they don't have anything in common with Hitler and Hitler's ideology. Hitler respected every race and culture ( he said that multiple times) because he removed federal reserves from Germany that were in control of the jews, jews declared war on him in 1933. Check who runs todays federal reserves in America and across the world. Check who runs the media, check who runs the bank, check who runs the hollywood. After you research that we can talk.
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I just read all of that nonsense and blacklisted all of those idiots that hate you for speaking about a historical entity logically instead of with nothing but blind hatred so that I could feel a little better even though they'll probably never enter any of my giveaways ever. =)
I do run on sentences good.
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You can't believe how happy you make me, after a whole day of getting "exposed" and framed :p
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Blacklisted for doubting Hitler's brilliance.
Steamgifts 2017.
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Hitler? Brilliant? Are you ok?
Are you one of those toxic idiots that feel the need to put words in someone else's mouth to make yourself feel morally right? Cause a 3 year old could tell you I never said what you just said.
Really though. Why? Why put words in my mouth? I don't get it.
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I'm the one who said things and you're the one who blacklisted me for that, not the other way around.
Edit: this poster is great, recommending for any collection. A++.
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And now you're putting it in my mouth that I said you blacklisted me or that I didn't blacklist you?
Seriously is this like some fetish of yours? Are you just in constant defense mode and trying to latch onto something to use against me even if you have to make up all of these words that I never said?
Why can't you just read and respond to things I actually wrote like a normal human being?
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I'm not fond of Islam (nor any other religion for that matter), nor am I a fan of immigration (and that includes white immigrants, the problem isn't race), and so on, for many reasons, but none of them matter because I'm just a racist xenophobe in the eyes of those who won't listen to reason. That being said though, I do feel from some of what I read you said (didn't read everything), that the major issue is your way of wording things. If I've learned something about having any given conversation these days, it's that people take everything extremely literal based on "their" interpretation of any given sentence or word. The only way to make anything clear and concise so others will understand it the way you intend it, is to write a book, void of sarcasm and so on, but... Then nobody wants to read what you said because it's too much. But yah, as a result, civilized debate is a thing of the past.
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What if I told you that I'm writing a fanfiction about a game, in which I randomly added myself as a character and I'm inderectly mocking current society and I actually have constant 100-200 readers per chapter every week? :D IT's actually funny, because some people dont even realize that they are getting mocked and they actually like it. Even if they stop giving me much reviews per chapter, making me think they slowly realized it, especially after I totally remade first few pages of the bible, in a way that kind of mind blown flew folks xD
Enough self advertise. But really. when I am literal I always write "Literally"... even if I start to sound like leafyishere ,by doing so xD
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So "Hitler did nothing wrong" and "Hitler was a brilliant man" are wrongly worded forms of "Hitler was a major person in the 20th century"?
(Not meant as an attack on you or anything)
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I didn't read anything about Hitler doing nothing wrong, only read a bit of what was shown. If I recall, I read something about Hitler not being all bad, and although I know to many that is very offensive, it is sort of true. Now don't get me wrong, he was a horrible human being for the shit he did, but... Some of his ideas and/or opinions would have been good if he wasn't the way he was. Think I also read him being called smart, which I can only agree with 50/50, because although yes, he had a good understanding of people, the world and politics, which is what helped him manipulate his way to the top. He was an idiot who thought he was more intelligent then he was, and that's why Germany lost the war. Had he not let his ego take over, and instead listened to his Generals, odds are we'd all be living under a German flag right now. All that said though, Hitler did a lot of things wrong, both morally, and strategically. Ofc, people can go on all they want how horrible Germans were, and Nazi's, but when does anyone ever talk about the mistreatment that happened in Canada and the US towards the Japanese? Every side in past wars did horrific things, but the victors are always written off as much less barbaric and inhumane.
Hopefully I made sense with that, head is pounding atm.
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This is it. This is the worst thread on steamgifts and I want my past 30 minutes (and innocence) back. Jesus Christ... I don't even post from mobile and I had to make an exception just to say... This was a trainwreck from start to finish.
good. I think it's out of my system now
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just gonna leave this here, its quite interesting, expecially for those who consider hitler the devil himself
http://hitlerorchurchill.info/
got a 81%. feel free to share your % you all.
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Is that proof that Hitler wasnt all that bad ?XD
Your Score: 73%
I should of read the longer "questions" xD
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well compared to others (which are in no way blamed for what they have done, instead and getting glorified and thanked even nowadays), he is nothing but a rookie.
his only fault, and that of the entire threeparty pact is to have lost the damn war
history will be kind to me, if i intend to write it...
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It does nothing to redeem Hitler, but it does highlight the fact that Churchill's positive reputation is primarily the result of history being written by the winners. He was a highly racist imperialistic aristocrat, even by the standards of his time, with little regard for the lives of "primitives", and while his long and bloody career did not result in quite as much extermination as Hitler's, his legacy would be that of a monster who oversaw the deaths of millions in the British colonies, if he was not a war hero. In fact, his reputation IS of a monster, in the now former colonies that he savaged.
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After the whole pewdiepie drama with him been a nazi and stuff I was like "well good thing such stuff will never happen to me."... Couldn't be more wrong. Browsing around the next posting in different places and shit I realized something... For the last week or so, people more and more kept claiming that I'm a "dictator" or "Hitler".
I mean, I don't actually see it as all that offensive, because... I don't know, it's just random claims, but I just wonder... Is this the new argument these days for people just disagreeing with your opinion? I was literally called both things at least 10 times for the last few days.
Your toughs? Or just hail Kapy? xD
P.S I know that Erdogan was calling Europe nazi, but this started a bit before he did the claims, so I don't think it's because of him. ( I hope)
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Adding this proof from a user who posted proof that I'm Hitler or at least a 'fanboy"
Golwar:
The reason is probably rather that kapy is indeed a Hitler fanboy. There are Nazi comparisons that are pointless (most of them) and than there are those that might have a justification. Like in kapy's case.
(the link https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/kF0vR/update-steam-removed-many-games-not-availabe-in-germany-thread-now-with-infos#Ha5peKh)
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