I already own Guilty Gear X2 reload on GoG. No cards but whatever.
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Only in the sense that it's more difficult for GOG to revoke the licence should you do something like attempting a chargeback or some other breach in the terms of service.
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Which is an upside, however that has nothing to do with "owning" software.
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Uh, no. We actually own the game (Regardless of if that's ownership of a digital license or of a digital product), and are allowed to download and retain the installers. With Valve, we don't even purchase a license to the individual games (as is already an unfortunate norm): Valve loopholed the legalities involved into listing Steam itself as the service being provided, meaning that they can outright cancel access to ALL games at any time [by cancelling your right to their service].
Since it's a service, rather than a product, you have no right for recompense should they do such, since you never owned [and thus didn't lose] anything. ie, it's like a TV subscription plan: Even if you paid extra for more cable stations, that doesn't mean you get to retain anything if your service gets cancelled.
Steam is.. amazingly skeevy in its abuse of the legal system- or rather, of the laws that corporations like it have pushed into place regarding digital product rights (or rather, lack thereof).
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If you own it, please try to resell it. Please try to redistribute it as you please, inform GOG and the publishers of your doing so, and see what happens.
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First off, you're fully within legal rights to do so within Europe. Moreover, right of first sale is irrelevant to the more fundamental right of private ownership, which was the actual topic. That the first typically extends off the latter is a basic association, but not relevant to the assessment of each component on its own.
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And then was knocked down when people tried to sue Valve to resell their games: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/10/german-court-rules-against-rights-to-resell-steam-games/ and it wasn't due to a service loophole.
You still do not "own" the games purchased on GOG. You're still bound by terms of service of GOG.com and any EULA agreed to with the software itself, including, but not limited to reselling, redistribution, reverse engineering, or using imagery, music, characters, etc. from the software in your own work.
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Most of us don't intend to resell, redistribute or use the works came by software in our own work. You're nitpicking it. You can't even do most of them when you buy a boxed retail game.
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It doesn't matter your intent, what matters is that even through GOG, you still do not "own" the software.
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most people don't want to resell games after they played them? are you kidding me?
and that you can't do those things with a retail copy has to do with the fact, that nowadays you are buying a license, even with retail copies.
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I feel compelled to mention that the case by vzbv was handled by them in an extremely poor way. At least from what I understood, they could / should have won, but fucked it up hard.
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If GOG Connect gets more popular and GOG starts doing bundles, I'd easily swap over fully.
The problem is that GOG's sale benefit primarily comes from their complete-a-set bundles, and rebuying games is.. a waste.
So GOG, while awesome if it's the only site you use for games, really handicaps itself with its system.
Nevermind that bundles are just absurdly cheap compared to any sale, and that's hard to compete against without also engaging in similar.
Once you move past how difficult it is to purchase from them, GOG is the best available distributor by far.
And Steam.. well, if it wasn't for Uplay, they'd be hands down the worst- but while Valve is too cool to pay its customers any mind whatsoever, Ubisoft seems determined to outright express their disdain for us. :X
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IndieGala is an terrible, scammy, disrespectful site run by awful people.
..but it's not my place to make decisions for everyone else, so you'll probably want to include the fact that Guilty Gear X2: Reload is ALSO in an IndieGala bundle until the 11th [>>]
Gotta love the classic fighters- thanks for the heads up. :)
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is an terrible, scammy, disrespectful site run by awful people.
You could say that about most bundle sites, or businesses / companies / corporations :D
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Yeah, but I haven't personally been screwed over by most companies :P
Besides, Bundlestars, Groupees, and Humble have great reputations (Humbles regional issues aside, though even there they offer full refunds if an issue arises).
IG and GMG are really the only two bundle/sale sites with firmly bad reputations that I know of or hear about.
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First I hear that IG has a bad rep (aside from having often bad bundles). What did I miss?
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IG are extremely poor at adding Greenlight games to past bundles (which is why they stopped GL bundles I assume). Extremely poor.
Occasionally they did some funny business with invalid keys, but not often enough for that to be a concern.
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i first hear that IG and GMG have a bad reputation :D personally with IG i have no problems. when there was a major issue with a steam key people couldnt redeem it for one game (it wasnt even IG's fault devs didnt send keys) IG fixed it as fast as they could when they got the keys and when some people still had a problem with redeeming that key (i was one of those people) ive sent a message to support and it was resolved within hours and for GMG this speaks for itself :)
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That's not an entirely accurate way of phrasing it, since in a sense they're closer to being a series of games based on the same foundation (eg, Street Fighter Alpha 1, 2, 3), rather than being minor remakes of the same game.
Those interested can compare features between versions here:
http://guilty-gear.wikia.com/wiki/Guilty_Gear_XX_(Disambiguation)
Accent Core Plus R is the latest and most definitive version, so in that sense it is the best option. :)
But y'know- some people still swear by Street Fighter 2 (or rather, one of Champion Edition or Turbo) over the later games, so there's reason to consider the different versions available. ^.^
(That being said, if you had to go for a single version, Core Plus R is probably the best choice- so if you're not looking at multiple versions, probably better to wait for that to go cheap instead.)
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Depends on story. Not all of them have story. #Reload does have part of the XX story (and last I checked, it was new parts of the story with each release), so if you want all of that, guess what you need to get.
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Meh Blazblue is still better than Guilty Gear... no lost
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****, no cash to grab #Reload in time. Bloody bank fees. >:(
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The trader in me wants to hold onto this extra key..........but I can't resist the urge to offer it to you for free! Add me if you decide you'd like it xp
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Thanks a lot for the warning. Was missing Isuka, so I just got it from Humble Store.
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bad time for paypal to be empty, i still want them both :(
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Only have steam wallet, so no surprise they aren't on sale on steam. Oh well I'll just have to put that to Angry Birds Space as I was intending to before this.
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cant wait till scalpers jack up its price
and yes, in case you missed it, this was sarcasm
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Seeing how Arc Systems moved towards self-publishing (and publishing for a select few others). With the following Guilty Gear has, I expect they'll put them back up themselves soon enough.
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thanks for the info i was missing X2 so instabought
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Silly question. If you own a delisted game, can you still download it or is it deleted for good?
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Thanks for the announcement, got both before they are delisted
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I was missing X2 Reload but managed to get it in time from IG. Gotta be sure I have them, just in case they don't come back.
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damm it and i wont get payd till a couple of days.... guess i'm out of luck for both of them
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Seems I'm lucky to already own both :o
Thanks for the heads up though bump!
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I was about to buy Isuka on Bundle Stars and disappeared from the cart
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Eh, they'll be back. If they still work, it's pure profit to list them.
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It appears rights are reverting back to Arcsys and the games will be delisted soon. Kiss Ltd is selling the games at 85% off before they are delisted so if you want them now would be a good time to buy.
GMG and Humble Store has both games for 85% OFF
So far Arcsys hasn't said a word when or if they will return to Steam.
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