Good one. It better not be an exclusive though. What are the odds of it, since the remasters will be on Steam in a few days and the rest of the Borderlands series saw a massive discount on the Steam Store? I don't think that either Gearbox or 2K intend to antagonize the Steam community.
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Well, the absence of a Steam logo is somewhat of an indication.
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There is a big Epic logo on the bottom left corner in this tease
It's not an april's fools according to the OP.
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Yes there are, read Randy Pitchfords Tweets, he LOVES the epic game store and doesnt see anything wrong with it or making his game exclusive to it.
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If this is true and it is an Epic exclusive, there is going to be a MASS riot. You have no idea how many people would boycott the game, and company, if they pulled that kind of dick move.
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people said this when mass effect 3 was not coming to steam. I dont remember riots lol.
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That was Mas Deffeft 3. And there were other riots about that game
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people will do absolutely nothing, almost all are just hypocrite, too much talk and don't do nothing.
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Most people just don't care what launcher they have to install in order to play the game. Metro Exodus sold really well despite being Epic exclusive.
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in fact the hype that the game have it's what determine the solds, not the launcher.
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Please, share with real evidence/source, numbers (not compared to second game) and etc. before saying that Exodus sold really well.
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https://www.pcgamesn.com/metro-exodus/metro-exodus-sales I read this sometime ago.
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2033 and Last Light are easily two of my favorite top ten games. That being said, as much as I was looking forward to exodus, which supposedly adds the open world element to the series, thus making it a potential #1, I am never going to buy it. I don't intend to install chinese spyware on my PC, or kowtow to their rogue corporations.
(Well, never is a strong word, maybe when it's included in a USD 1 bundle...)
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me too, i loved both games..but i wont give my money to chinese spyware epic. it not just the store, Steam has the better features and community..
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Shallow people maybe. Valve needs to learn a lot, and if Epic Games can give them serious competition, maybe that's good for Steam to get some very bad policies changed. Valve needs to give developers who use their platform a bigger cut of the sales, because it's the devs who put in most of the work and Steam just hosts them. What's unfortunately unlikely that even Epic Games could change (that would involve GOG if it could ever get big enough) is the abhorrent state of Steam being DRM. AAA companies also need to learn that DRM harms more than it ever helps, and it's not the answer.
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Yup! I love Epic giving Valve a hard time. As much as I like Steam, they're too stagnant. If this dirty move forces Steam to do something, I'm all for it.
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The problem is that the practice of using exclusives to lure customers is not actually competitive. Epic is not trying to make a better launcher... they are trying to make it so that it is the consumer's only option if they want to play these games... which Epic did not even make. They are literally just using their considerable wealth to buy out other people's work and use the work of others to lure people to their platform instead of making a product that is actually good.
In short, exclusives are an anti-competitive practice that actually just makes things worse for all consumers because it doesn't give consumers a choice in the matter of choosing the platform that they want to use.... but consumers are falling for this crap anyway... so Epic has no reason to change. In the end... we're fucking ourselves over whenever we support a company that uses exclusives as a business practice.
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So they're doing what Steam did while they had no competition.
Now that Epic are trying a similar thing while there is competition, it's suddenly bad?
I hate how Epic is doing things, I hate their launcher, and I dislike that it's owned by a Chinese company.
However, to think that Steam didn't do a similar thing to bring publishers into the "digital subscription" mindest is a little naive.
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the difference is steam never forced a developer to be exclusive, the developers chose steam because steam was the only choice available. later on, developers kept choosing steam because they had the biggest market
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the developers chose steam because steam was the only choice available
Again, this is naive thinking. You say no-one forced them to use Steam, and yet they chose Steam and suddenly and everyone is now using that service. It's almost like the blind leading the blind. Steam had to have gotten big because they were contacting devs and publishers to grow their game base.
steam never forced a developer to be exclusive
Are you sure EGS is forcing people to be exclusive? They're contacting devs and pubs just like Steam, I'm not sure how much different this is, apart from the fact that Steam is now the game platform that 99% of games use (and in that sense it's a monopoly). Doesn't some competition help? This isn't about all those users "who only use Steam", I feel like this is the start of something bigger than the hate of one service or the love of another one. I wanna see how this affects people's view on Steam and clients as a whole. Too long we've just accepted that we play all our games on Steam, and generally ignore the other clients. I'm not excited in EGS, I'm excited to see if the world suddenly wakes up and stops relying on clients again. And this is coming from someone who loves playing games through Steam. I know, it's weird.
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For a long time, steam was the only available option for online sales with a modicum of DRM. If publishers wanted digital distribution without having to build their own, steam was the only choice.
They could either build and market their own storefront, or piggyback off steam.
Steam was there first, and as the audience grew, so did the desire for publishes to have access to said audience. As more and more games became more available, the audience kept growing. It's called the Network Effect.
EGS is cutting deals with publishers for exclusivity - either a lump sum of cash, or a guaranteed minimum. Steam has never offered such deals, nor ever asked for a game to be steam-exclusive.
I'm not against competition, and it'd be great if there were more options, but those options should win on the merits - people should choose a storefront because it's a better storefront, not because it's the only one available. The Origin store is doing fine, GOG is doing ok.
If EGS could bring something new to the table, like a better way to discover new games, I'd be there in a heartbeat. But they're not better than steam. They're not even half as good as steam. The only thing EGS has going for it are that they have money to burn to try and attract people with giveaways and exclusives. But nobody wants to use their inferior product.
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EGS isn't forcing anyone to be exclusive.
I don't need to be told you don't like EGS - I already said I don't like it either.
peace out.
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1) EGS is paying for exclusivity. Hence they are forcing the industry into exclusivity.
2) Steam is different in (huge mega amounts of ways) because when steam was born you had to buy discs from GameStop or another game store and there was no actual good access to a digital copy and digital distributors of said games would eventually close those services when the game wasn't selling anymore. Steam came to the world of gaming to offer people a choice of having a digital copy of their game online, safe and available forever and for a evolving gaming community this was amazing to be able to forget long lines and availability of the copy of your game.
3) So yes Steam didn't force anything on anyone, it only created the path towards what we have now. I don't find it as their fault that other even bigger gaming giants like EA took eon's to figure it out.
4) DRM is a awful excuse for bashing steam when there is GOG who unlike EGS came into the market to compete against steam and it has been doing pretty well for itself although it has not made all that much of an impact but that is because of features but if you want your games DRM free GOG is there for you, I mean you don't even need a launcher for GOG.
5) The way I see it EGS can't compete like the others have against steam so it chooses to buy it's way to the top buying loved titles and basically just telling the user "Buy Me or GFYS" I chose the "Buy Me" option cause there was no other option for me to play Metro and I wish I had pre-ordered it now before this garbage happened I have to use EGS to play the game.
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They aren't FORCING exclusivity... you can't get a few games, and assume that publishers and devs suddenly have no choice. Why do people make these assumptions.
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And 3. How do you explain all the physical discs i bought that i couldnt play cos i needed Steam's app to activate and play them? The anger people are feeling towards EGS now is exactly like the anger I had when i got a game home only to find I needed steam. It's the same sort of thing.
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Im not bashing any game service. Get your presumptions correct. Ii anything, I dont tend to use GOG cos they're expensive to buy the same games.
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Heck, my argumwnt isnt dor or against any client, or for drm exclusively. I think the squabble about how crappy the EGS store, mixed with emotions about some games being exclusive has gotten everyone's panties in a bunch.
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Opinions. Feel free to have them, just stop misconstruing mine.
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1) You are not understanding the point being argued in regards to exclusivity, nobody is talking about Dev's & Publishers choice or lack their of. People are arguing the fact Epic is waving millions of dollars to buy games for their platform forcing the user to use their platform.
2) Yeah you bought discs during the time steam was around growing in the market so maybe you are too young for the reference back when steam did not exist and during the time it was barely making a dent in the market. I only every got 1 disk game requiring steam and after that I started looking into the chance of never having to make a line ever again.
3) Sorry, misrepresentation of a company service.
4) Facts.
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Please tell me how timed exclusives or exclusives in general is not just worse for the consumer? If you don't have the option to choose a launcher for the game you want to play... at any time! ... Then that's not competition! That's anti-competition!
Edit: I mean... pretending there is no problem at all with the idea of exclusives is ultimately bad for the gaming industry as a whole.
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Again... please tell me how it is not worse for the consumer? Cause I know you think you did... but you just described a situation that is worse for the consumer...
Also, after seeing this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_game_store_spyware_tracking_and_you/
And all the shit the Epic launcher was caught doing on people's computers... excuse me if I don't want to touch the launcher with a ten foot pole!
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GOG is a superior platform in some ways but it's platform is not at the level of steam which is what has made it not so successful and it doesn't promote itself all that much either so yeah Steam is still on top because of the better service and better platform ( Steams return policy is frankly and undeniably better than GOG's and that's service right there ). I can assure you that statement is false because it's talking about it's current capital not the revenue it's going to make and is making by snatching up successful franchises. Frankly I wish GOG made a better effort to get developers to publish on their platform specially considering the revenue cut is lots better.
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They say that abvout every exclusive game on every exclusive store and bar a few frothing standouts it never actually happens.
It's not like consoles with a cash investment, if you care enough eventually you'll just download the client and get on with your life. If you don't, you won't. So it goes.
Fucks sake, the day the most important hill I have to die on is defending Valve's monopoly will be a sorry one indeed.
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Valve doesn't really have a monopoly, it might have the bigger user base but not a monopoly it has had competition from GOG for a while although not one that has made it flinch but that's on GOG not being aggressive enough in being competitive Epic at this point is not competing, not offering a better service and frankly not offering a better platform they are just buying users by buying their games.
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Aprils fool or not .... awesome news.
Only if you don't mind Epic siphoning your data for whatever purpose.
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gearbox will make a lot more money. It is on the unreal engine / epic store = crazy cut. Facebook and google already know my bra size.
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Nah. They don't have a big enough customer base for anyone to make money off this store. Ubi took the bribe/incentive for Division 2 but they sold almost nothing on Epic. Over 92% of their sales were on the Ubi Store.
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reference cant see that .... would not believe they would reveal that data except more preorders than original on steam.
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only if the pre-order will have all 132 dlc it'll eventually get
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Money saved either way, as I do not intend to buy this game, but I would NEVER buy it from the Epic store.
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How much people start discussions about unlayed eggs ...
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All previous games are using Unreal Engine. So if they will be using EGS, then there will no tax for using unreal engine. but it does not mean, that game will be 100% exlusive for EGS. But 100% it will sales in EGS
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no problem, not worth to buy games until Goty or all DLC pack anyway. There are millions of other games.
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just waiting for 1 more year
no biggie, it's gonna get GOTY version in the mean time and potentially discount too
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for 6 month... will be available april 2020 on steam
source :https://kotaku.com/borderlands-3-is-a-six-month-epic-store-exclusive-1833771692
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Basically the offical PC launch date is April 2020
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At launch on September 13, Borderlands 3 will be available for PC exclusively through the Epic Games store. Borderlands 3 will be available on additional PC digital storefronts in April 2020.
but yeh if you consider pc = steam :)
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Considering it took Borderlands 2 three years to get its first complete edition, it is cute to see people here thinking BL3 will get one in 6-12 months. ^_^
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They just revealed a trailer for the game.
Release date is indeed September 13th.
Stores are indeed: XBOX, Playstation, Epic
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Well now to wait for more new regarding MHW Iceborn DLC because no more excited about BL3 . And really wonder how 2k will moneytize it if pre-order bonus is bloody gold skins for your weapons (just like the bloody golden skins in Battleborn that were ugly).
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Epic's entire platform kinda sucks tho. I wish it didn't but they rushed out the store too fast.
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7 months later for steam version? I'll wait, and then probably wait some more for summer sale. Hope the game turns out to be as great as 2, or even better! Fuck epic.
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Gearbox should just delete the free HD-Remake for all these people...
A big part of the gamingcomunity is just... nuts
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You want to ban people from being able to voice their opinion the only way they can, they have no other voice than this, if anything, Valve should ban you for toxicity.
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Valve already has a feature to make review bombs irrelevant. There's no reason to ban people who are voicing their opinions in reviews.
There are games I really love that have spyware/adware/removed features that I have changed my positive reviews for. Sometimes it actually helps and the spyware gets removed but it's never gotten features back (looking at you, marketed co-op games that get co-op removed making the entire game shitty)
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I go back and revise my reviews once in awhile, and one thing I review about a game is the company behind them if applicable.
For example, if a company removed a feature from a game that would be mentioned in any new reviews as well as added into consideration in all my other reviews, maybe changing the overall verdict of being positive/negative. Steam does need some sort of publisher/developer review system, it's an important part in making an informed decision when buying games.
Nothing worse than spending a bundle of cash to get trash.
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Or maybe Gearbox should not piss off people by forcing them to buy their game somewhere else where security is a joke or they cant even buy it there if they happen to be chinese or other regional users.
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Valve should punish you, theres nothing worse than fanboys.
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Let's punish everyone who leaves a negative review for an arbitrary reason that someone doesn't agree with. What could go wrong?
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Actually, yes. When a review is "I am giving a downvote not because there is anything wrong with the game but because I do not like some associated company", then it is not a review, but a typical internet kiddie rant. A review should inform you about the game and its quality, its strong suits and shortcomings, not be someone's personal Trump-style twitter page to whine/rage about unrelated stuff.
So, yes, I would very much agree if Valve simply permanently prevent such people of ever posting any review after a few of these. Then maybe Steam game scores would not be an actual bad joke instead of an actual measurement of a game.
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I agree that review bombing is an issue,but the solution is not to dictate what people can put in their reviews. How a company or developer conduct themselves can be a valid concern, and I wouldn't want to ban joke reviews either.
Unlike a curated review aggregator like metacritic, Steam reviews have always been a more raw, uncontained outlet and I'd prefer to keep it that way. The downside to this of course are all the "dumb" reviews that don't provide anything useful.
It would be better for Steam to provide more tools allowing community curation and filtering out unwanted reviews than telling people what they can or can't write.
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Their not fucking dumb, their voicing their opinion the only way we can.
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Reminds me of some guy who was so upset about Total War Arena's servers being shut down, he went and wrote a review to every Total War game and dlc he had, ranting about how much he hated the company for shutting down the servers. He wrote like 20 reviews, smh.
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https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/borderlands-3-release-date-leak/
Aprils fool or not .... awesome news.
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