I blacklist people either when they massively broke the rules (not hunting them down but if I see some, e.g. when they win a giveaway of mine) or if they straight up insult me or others. If someone just posts his opinion, without insulting, he won't be blacklisted, no matter what opinion it is.
What I call insulting depends on the mood I have when encountering it, I guess.
Edit: I do not consider racism, hate and a few other things an opinion though. Have to admit that.
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Disclaimer : I don't know the thread, or the opinion you put forth that got you the blacklists. Just putting that out ahead of this.
I may come across as judgemental but I'm speaking in hypotheticals about other encounters, attitudes or things I've witnessed not related to you.
The thing with 'controversial' subjects is that they often deal with matters of human rights, the treatment of the vulnerable, or general conduct involving people may be treated by a different standard. Usually the subject deals with something recurring and systematic, like ongoing attitudes, rather than singular one-off newsworthy events. Everyone has opinions, but publicly sharing an 'opinion' on a subject that people deal with on a daily basis that has certain ramifications, will naturally get a stronger reaction. If a matters close to a persons heart is approached by an 'opinion' of someone without enough grounding experience, context or tact, it takes on a whole different shade. The internet often causes people to lapse in their conduct, forgetting there are real humans on the other side of the screens, not just an abstract batch of floating words and concepts. The "I have an opinion" does not float equally well in all situations, environments and choice of timing. For example, an opinion that a premature death was a foregone conclusion due to drug abuse may be valid insomuch that it's a view you hold, and may have some merit in its prediction, but to raise that opinion at the wake of someone's funeral who died of overdose, among people who struggled with and overcame their own addiction, as a person who never touched drugs and had ample support for their own issues where the deceased had none? Yeah. Context and content is a big thing.
On some subjects, you cannot simply use guarded words and expect to be treated as a neutral party when the actual content of the message beyond the tone is in support of behaviour or actions that have severe negative side-effects upon the effected. Some people like to dress up rather regressive messages in hollow sentiments of "its just an opinion", fall back upon "lets agree to disagree" when challenged, and use tactics like false compromise to paint strong dissent as unreasonable.
Divisive subjects are often divisive with a reason. If not for emotive content, then because of the repercussions of 'mere opinion' propagating and snowballing into attempts at the passing of laws or the perpetual suspension of certain rights through stalling tactics. Some subjects are not very compatible with the 'just a disagreeing opinion' mentality. There are opinions, and then there are hard airquotes "opinions", but neither weigh much when placed side by side on a measuring scale with actual facts, lives and experiences.
Yes, some people are overly judgemental. Some are very guarded, or misread your intents, tone or even the opinion itself. But the onus is not solely on the listener to be completely detached from every opinion put forwards. Not every opinion is equally respectable in its content, and people have learned to use adult vocabulary and certain tactics to try mask certain rotten aspects of what is being brought up, or to outright displace blame on those who react negatively. By all means, dissent and discussion is a normal and healthy thing, but when you step into certain subject matter, you can no longer simply politely disagree on every facet with a default of 'just an opinion', y'know?
If you get blacklisted for engaging in a respectable manner and forwarding thoughts that are respectable and do not dehumanise people, etc... then take that as a disguised blessing. Someone judged you harshly, but the blacklist is automatically bidirectional. They saved you some work. That said, if you get a sudden influx of almost exclusively blacklists after engaging in a divisive thread, it can't hurt to take an honest pause to shake the tree in your minds garden to see if any of the leaves fall off dead. More important than "this is my opinion" is "and this is why", followed by "I do not hold these differing opinions / versions of my opinion because...".
Maybe I'm just pulling a full Captain Obvious routine here and you already consider all this, but you did open a whole thread to grouch about blacklisting rather than the specific context of a conflict. Maybe it doesn't apply here, but whenever I have encountered this, it was done by people annoyed that their dismissive or shortsighted (or just plain bad / immoral) takes got shot down or met with distain. Either way, the blacklists are either punishing a bad move, or they're saving you the work of rooting out the overly judgemental. It seems like a win/win despite the annoying wrapper it wears.
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I definitely appreciate the time and effort you put in this reply! Feels like an essay - but in general I agree with what you have said. We can't know what others are thinking at all, and expressing oneself in certain discussions will sometimes lead to backlash in varying degrees - and yet I feel that even though there is backlash sometimes it's just as important as agreeing with what has been said - we must not be afraid to state what we think - of course there are some limits and things that pretty much should never be said, whether one believes in them or not.
But if everyone agrees with something - that doesn't make that something right - and in case that it is actually wrong there will be no way to correct it because everyone agreed, if you get my meaning.
But yes, getting blacklisted got me thinking so I started this thread mostly to see what other people have to say about how they themselves choose to blacklist or not to. And yes, sometimes it's a blessing in disguise, I agree.
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A big thing I forgot to mention is that sometimes there is collateral damage in the more intense subjects. Sometimes people are actually in agreement, but somewhere in the tone or the reading of it, people see an opponent where there isn't one. Sometimes you all have the same end-goal but you disagree on the fineprint of getting there so ferociously that you may as well be comicbook arch-nemesis. Nemisees? Fuck you, english. :P
That has always been a bitter thing for me, because while I do tend towards left-leaning values, I can't turn a blind eye to the tribal mindsets that have sprung up around various advocacy subjects. In one hand, I appreciate that with generations of being treated real bad, people have every right to want to lash out. It's a natural result of mistreatment. Though on the other hand, there is a line it crosses when someone simply making off-colour remarks or petty jabs, and actually gets into the territory of seeding fresh prejudices or normalising alt flavours of racism / sexism / etc. I predicted it way back, but had always hoped this natural boomerang effect was just a paranoid worry. Sadly, such destructive tribalism only really ends up hurting people who aren't shielded by actual prejudice, and leads to various advocates cannibalising their own kind via gatekeeping, brutally mauling even the smallest shades of dissent within their own ranks, and making the alt-right rhetoric seem vaguely plausible. And none of this is helped by the nature of social media which acts as a perfect vector for social memes (of the mental group-adaption variety, not image macros and vines haha). It feels like sitting in the back of a family car and watching a drunk parent swerve back and forth between lamp-posts, powerless to do anything to correct matters, and all efforts only causing them to direct bitter slurring at me while further distracting their attention from the road.
As long as you're honest with yourself, and do your best to carefully prune your opinions where they are found to conflict with reality, and weigh them carefully when it comes to value judgements and actual human experiences and lives, then even if someone blacklists you in a moment of misplaced anger, it's not a big deal. Sometimes the best of people just clash with little provocation. Sometimes discourse is badly timed, badly worded, or you drop a genuine bad take despite your best intentions. Sometimes we just have to eat a blacklist and chalk it up to experience, doing better in the future, or not holding it against the person who got the wrong impression.
The most important subjects are rarely clean and surgical in their resolution. Just be your best version of yourself, be as honest as you can, remember the human element and that we don't always have the same frames of reference (and giving the benefit of the doubt where possible), and we should hypothetically have the least possible salt and regrets. Hypothetically, haha.
And if you're lucky, you'll be both correct AND change one mind per debate.
It's still a big drain on energy and focus, and keeping your cool when shit hits the fan can be harder said than done. :P
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You might consider becoming a writer, public speaker or a diplomat, if you are not already one of the above :P
But yes, a part of your third paragraph actually seems like good life advice : "As long as you're honest with yourself, and do your best to carefully prune your opinions where they are found to conflict with reality, and weigh them carefully when it comes to value judgements and actual human experiences and lives".
Big part of the problem is the inability of people or plain unwillingness to try to discuss some topics in a civil manner and resort to extreme measures - now not all (in fact, very few) people do that, but since they are usually the loudest ones we get the wrong impression of either sides in the discussion - but all of this is a bit meta and relates to things not so relevant in this topic.
Still, thank you very much for taking the time to deliberate and write these thoughtful replies.
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I usually blacklist people who lack any common sense, who are douches etc. just people with bad behavior in general. I can tolerate all kinds of people unless they are (as they say in my country) an "empty watering can".
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Thank you for your input! Never heard of that expression but I can get the gist of it, I think :D
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You got my curiosity up so I checked stats. Apparently 35 people have blacklisted me because of the giveaways I made. Smooth.
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Feelsbadman. But as another member said above, think of it as a blessing in disguise, for it probably is.
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I blacklist people who don't read the giveaway's author comment, had some problems with people who couldn't activate the game because region restrictions and wanted to try their luck. In the end they didn't get the game, thanks Humble Bundle.
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I follow 2 simple rules:
- If you blacklisted me first and I find you I will blacklist you.
- When you make a giveaway, I check your profile. If you previously made a giveaway where the winner didn't recieve the game I will blacklist you.
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I see you like Taken! :P
Thanks for your input. It's reasonable I think.
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Haha this guy is basically the Liam Neeson of SG!!!
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Point 2 sounds a bit harsh. I mean, sure if you have like 10 not received out of 100 there's a problem, but 1 not received in 1000 can happen, some (rare) winners are really uncooperative in getting things fixed...
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Funny thing is I have a few level 10 users on my blacklist as well with only a single not sent gift. I would have never entered any of their giveaways anyways so those will be filtered because of the blacklisting, saves me a bit of time while browsing through the few giveaways I am interested in (my game filter list is also just a bit over 16000 so if I have little time I can still browse through the new public giveaways in a few minutes).
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[Comment = Blacklist] is the most common thing at sg :-D
Other opinions aren't liked from a good bunch of people.
Don't question me why, i don't understand it but it is their right to BL each and everyone if they have a reason or not.
So mostly it is better to not look much on it and be yourself, if that is "IN" or "OUT" right now.
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Thanks for your input! It does seem the community is somewhat divided in that way I guess, which is unfortunate in my opinion.
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Nihilists don't blacklist anything. It's great to just let things be without needing to be emotionally moved by an occurrence.
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Hmm.. Another unexpected point of view! Thanks for your input!
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That's quite a detailed response! Thank you for your input! It does seem quite sensible as well, as in improves the quality of giveaways you host (at least I think so).
The 1p dude is a fun anecdote though - like seriously wtf xD
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I blacklisted someone because they won a 1p game from me, and then proceeded to tell me to fuck off for giving them such a cheap game (why did you enter then???)
Lol. "I entered because I wanted to win just to tell you your game is crap" :D
Troll level: 11/10 - Dark Yoda 🙃
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Haha! I'm laughing at the guy with the 1p. What a douchwaffle. XD
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I only blacklist those who don't thank after winning a game
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not to be racist or anything, but i prefer whitelists over blacklists
joking aside, i would only blacklist someone if they're being straight-up disrespectful or deliberately breaking/ignoring rules. so far, that's been nobody.
i like to whitelist people who either do giveaways for exceptionally good games, or have a high sent to won ratio.for example, this absolute champ
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Mr Buscemi, thanks for your input! It's good to have a positive outlook!
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I'm the type of person who has 0 blacklisted people. I have experienced lots of blacklists (most of them from months-years ago) maybe for my behavior and my lack of knowledge of the site.
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So would you say you personally would never blacklist someone or that so far you haven't felt anybody deserved to be blacklisted by you?
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Eh, it's a double-edged sword.
Personally I don't blacklist anyone and I'm alive, so it obviously didn't hurt me to avoid blacklisting people. I used to blacklist a fair amount, but I noticed myself become really snobbish, especially when I was more active with making decent giveaways. It's a bit intoxicating to have the power to take away something from someone.
But at the same time, I have nothing against the idea that people have the opportunity to blacklist.
If you blacklist for differing beliefs, then you're a bit of a bitch and you're probably really disliked in the real life since you can't even handle someone in the world having different opinions. But if you blacklist for rule violations or other more technical things, then whatever.
Personally, I think it's a bit of a snobbish thing and I also think it requires a bit of an ego. Enough of an ego to think that your giveaways are so important and so worthy and that someone else is not worthy in the slightest.
Basically, whatever. Getting hung up on blacklists is like getting hung up on a Facebook post. It's just not the best way to spend your mental energy.
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Thank you for your input! I think it's a sensible approach in general, and yes, getting hung-up on such things is kinda useless - but hearing opinions on the matter was also quite helpful to me, for I have a slightly broader picture now.
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No need to find excuses to ask questions. Some might dislike it, but often enough they either don't know it either and are unwilling to learn or they forgot that not everyone knows the things they do.
Regardless, don't worry about it and it's always fine to inquire about things you're interested in.
Especially if the answer to the question might change over time for people.
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Yes, we were all young once!
But from the small group of people that replied here it could be approximated that "most" users that are somewhat active on the forums and such have normal/neutral points-of-view on blacklisting and are therefore sensible people. But comparing that to the increased number of blacklists I have received since starting this thread, I would more likely lean to 50/50.
Thanks for your replies.
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i blacklisted one person, after he complained in very offen... ähhh harsh language that i added him after he won a game... because i did not wrote on his steampage first...
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Thank you for your input! I could see myself doing the same I guess, though again I wasn't in your shoes so it's not something I want to get involved in.
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On SG, doing basically anything could get you a blacklist. I got several blacklists for creating my first train - go figure. Saying anything remotely controversial is practically guaranteed to get you blacklisted.
I wouldn't blacklist anyone just for saying something I disagree with - I'm sure I've said stuff some people disagree with, and I would hope they would engage me in dialog over it instead of blacklisting me.
Personally, I only blacklist people for being extremely rude and disrespectful, or for spreading hate speech. Now, I don't know what you said that was controversial, but I hope you said it in a way that wasn't very rude or disrespectful, and I certainly hope you weren't engaging in hate speech.
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Thank you for your input! I also find blacklisting for simple disagreements is not a good approach and that dialogue is something I would personally prefer.
As for what I've said, I did not attack anyone personally or incited any violence/hate, just stated my view which was not shared by most other people in the thread. Though in their defense it was (and still is) quite a decisive attitude, with little room for negotiations but plenty room for discussion.
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Well, in that case, I wouldn't blacklist you.
I might engage you in discussion, to understand where you're coming from and to see if maybe you could understand where I'm coming from (assuming we have different view points), but not blacklist you. :)
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That's the proper attitude, I think so at least.
I might engage in discussion as well, but I would probably just keep scrolling, leaving it be. I've exceeded the age at which I would spend that much time on forums and engage in long and exhausting discussions (this one thread being the exception I guess).
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Haha, the internet is always able to get to us despite our better judgement. This comic is as true now as it was when it was first written: Duty Calls I love the mouse over text. :)
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Hahaha, yeah, it's a great classic! However I did not know there's a mouse over text! You, good sir, enlightened me! xD
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I got several blacklists for creating my first train - go figure
Maybe because you didn't say the magic word? Choo-choo 👀
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You know, you're right, I didn't say that. Didn't know I was supposed to. Dang!
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I don't want to go into details, but blacklisting for me is a complicated and esoteric procedure involving arcane rituals, runes and the advice of my forefathers.
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As long as you do it on cold moonlit nights on a mountaintop I can relate.
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my BL rules are secret. otherwise you'll all do it just to get on my naughty list.
about hypocrisy:
just recently i wrote a very similar comment in another discussion. about youtube demonetizing lots of channels which aren't bathing 24/7 in new age rainbow piss. i even had a real life example of the impact of transgender bullshit in US women sports and the effect it has on actual women who work hard for their sports. got me a few BL obviously because facts can't be allowed to beat delusional ideals. but i couldn't care less. my integrity is not for sale for the 10th wave of some cheap ass bundle leftovers.
funnily enough it's usually the same people preaching about tolerance and equality who can't handle different opinions.
and yes, i do enjoy toying with the easily triggered. it's big fun and there is a slim chance you help them get their feet on the ground again.
well, maybe not but the fun remains the same!
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Thank you for your input!
I can see how your comment might've gotten you in trouble. It's definitely not a popular opinion (the one you hold) - but that doesn't make it untrue. Now I can't say that I agree or disagree with you because I don't know the specifics but I guess I would lean towards your side of the argument simply based, from my understanding, that you weren't debated against but rather blacklisted/insulted, which leads nowhere.
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just for context:
i'm not from the US and i'm not a woman so that's two reasons not to care but i think it's always important to be well informed when forming an opinion. and seeing hard working people getting hammered and their dreams and ambitions smashed just because some very few folks insist on being some sort of "special snowflakes" is like paying a visit to a madhouse.
feel free to check out the video if you have the time. 7 minutes from the point of view of people who actually have to deal with this bullshit brought upon them by people who sit in their cozy seats and yell their crazy agendas into the world all day long.
8th Place: A High School Girl’s Life After Transgender Students Joined Her Sport
literally everybody can see that this is wrong. buuuut you are not allowed to argue against it in public. most people even denied the interview in fear of bullying afterwards. what a time to be alive!
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There are quite a lot of things going wrong in our world today. This story just being one of them. It is indeed easy to enforce and make laws and rules that don't affect you or your style/way of living directly - as is usually the case for politicians. Though we are getting a bit sidetracked, since you mentioned this video, I personally "enjoyed" another one titled : The State of Britain.. Ah the times we live in - as Terry Pratchett said "may you live in interesting times" in one of his eponymous books.
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that is actually a curse credited to the chinese. ;)
but you are right, let's get our heads around more pleasant things this fine evening.
update:
oh yes, that video is a fine testament to today's madness as well.
funny at first but gets disturbing quickly as soon as you realize it's actually real & serious.
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I thought the Chinese had "Be careful what u wish for" - but I like learning new things, so thanks! :)
Yes, life is to be enjoyed. A sweet song, I guess :P
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I don't blacklist people for their opinions. That's stupid and immature. (ok, I'm totally gonna end up on more blacklists for this but I don't care because I'm awesome like this). :)
My own blacklist has a whopping number of a whole one person in it and the only reason there will be more is if I catch some regifters or other people who violate the rules here.
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Thank you for your input! You might just end up on more blacklists but in the end, as you said, who cares :D
Yeah, rule violation seems a good reason for blacklisting. It's also quite objective, nothing personal about it.
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I found this quite useful when I started SG and I hope you get some use out if it too. It may well answer your question.
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/pxlgT/reasons-for-blacklist
Reason 26 is quite a useful one to remember. No need to dwell on it too much and focus on your whitelist. You'll feel better in the long run overall.
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Thank you for your input! This list seems to include a lot of reasons that were also mentioned here. Yes, you are right, no reason to dwell on it too much, look on the bright side of life :) (but still, No.20 on that list takes the cake for me - I can't even xD).
It's a useful thread to check out, so I will do just that.
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is that reason enough (obviously one does not need any actual reason, but for the sake of discussion) to blacklist someone
Actually, it's reason enough to get someone fired, in some people's minds... I would cite the James Damore case, but it's not exactly the typical scenario I had in mind. I'm rather thinking of: random politically incorrect tweet goes viral, random user doxxes author, quotes tweet to employer asking to fire or boycott. As I'm not a regular social network user, I don't have many links to that, but I've seen it in the past. Works on Facebook too.
One of the last I've seen was a shop owner losing their franchise for pictures of a safari vacation. Taken 4 years ago, mind you. Press article (in French, sorry)
And no, I don't particularly like hunting, but I don't think either that those who do it in a legal way should be excluded from society and left to die from hunger (this is basically what people who want to get other people fired do)
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Such tales make me feel a way I find hard to explain with words - and it's not a good way. There's that one movie that I think of when I read stuff such as this - it makes me worried for the direction we are heading.
But then again, there's that one poem by T.S.Eliot, titled "The Hollow Men", famous for it's ending - ..."This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper." We live in difficult times...
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Such tales make me feel a way I find hard to explain with words - and it's not a good way
Same. And the worst part of it is that people who do it are usually in the self-proclaimed "Nice/Good camp". As in "We're the goodies, we're nice and tolerant. We try to eliminate all the people who don't think the right way, but it doesn't count as evil, because they're Evil and killing Evil is Good"
Also I don't really think Idiocracy covers that theme, but it's a great movie anyway ^^
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It doesn't cover that theme directly yes, but I feel that's the direction we're heading with things happening as they are (such as the article you sent). Yes, it's a great movie.
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Hell yeah, I blacklist bigots who openly express their "unpopular stances" like xenophobia, sexism, homophobia and so on. Irrational hatred doesn't even deserve to be called "opinions". But I do hope that's not what you're talking about.
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Thank you for your input! Irrational hatred is indeed not an opinion and not something I am talking about here, no worries.
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It's not that important, I just find it curious. I also realize that this might be another of those "controversial" threads, but, hey, free speech?
Gah, that's a pet-peeve of mine! The misuse of the term "free speech".
Free speech means that the government (or any of its branches) can't restriction you from saying something, or punish you for it (with some restriction on that applying). You could say that you hate puppies and no government branch would be allowed to block your speech, prevent you from accessing their "public forums" (there was a court case in the US about that recently even) , or send the cops after you in order to silence your puppy hate.
But that is only true for government branches. On a private forum, something owned by an individual or a company, your speech is not protected in this way. The owner of that forum is allowed to ban you for saying that you hate puppies, and that would not be a breech of free speech, in fact one could argue that it would be them exercising their right to free speech by them saying what they think is okay on their forum. it also does not mean that individuals have to like what you say, or that they'll want to associate with you for saying it. If you say "I hate puppies" I would have the right to block all communications from you.
So no, this is not a free speech issue. And I wish people on the internet would stop misusing the term "free speech", particularly when something happens to them on a private forum due to things they've said. It makes the term "free speech" lose a lot of its meaning when everything becomes a "free speech" issue in the eyes of some, and it makes it harder to talk about ACTUAL free speech issues.
/end of rant.
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I just skimmed through your post - but just to be clear - that line was written half-jokingly, I wasn't really relying on my "free speech rights" when posting this thread, I just wanted to express my thoughts and hear the opinions of others - but thanks for taking the time to teach (I have read your comment completely by now).
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Free speech means that the government (or any of its branches) can't restriction you from saying something, or punish you for it
Actually, that's the First Amendment of the US Constitution, not free speech. I guess "free speech" is ambiguous, between those who define it as the First Amendment only, those who narrow it even further (in my country, some opinions are banned, and there are still people who claim we have free speech, because "what's illegal to say is not speech but is a crime"), and the free speech absolutists.
Although it really shouldn't be, IMO, as the words are clear enough. I mean, free software isn't just software that the US government can't prevent you to use now, is it?
And no, censoring someone isn't exercising your right to free speech. Saying "you can't say that" is free speech, but actually censoring is, well, censoring. It is legal, not anti-constitutional, legitimate (but debatable for some Big Tech, who became "de facto agorae"), and all. But it's still censoring.
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When it comes to my own GA's I choose to BL people who are rude or not thankful for a win, all it takes is one word or a short sentence.
Outside of that there has only been a couple of times when someone has essentially stuck their fingers up with a comment on a thread and even though not necessarily aimed at myself I feel that I do not wish to potentially gift to these people.
Also I never revenge BL someone, If they decide to do so it's for their own reasons and I respect that.
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Thank you for your input! I personally do not follow the same thought process but I can understand it. As for revenge BL yes, that sounds extremely childish.
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As for revenge BL yes, that sounds extremely childish.
To some extent I agree (plus BL is automatically dual way now), but with one exception: I've caught, on very rare occasions, people on my WL who had BLed me. That's just so rude...
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And what would that actually mean? Could they still enter your giveaways?
It's either extremely rude or a one-sided-affair (while you liked them they disliked you, kinda like a misunderstanding).
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Could they still enter your giveaways?
That's a good question... I'm not sure, I guess not
(while you liked them they disliked you, kinda like a misunderstanding)
I gtg sleep now, so I'll conclude with a relaxing picture ^^
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...right in the feels... xD
Sleeping is important, do your thing!
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When bl were not working in two ways like now - they could enter and win you giveaways :) It's quite disappointing when you discover that winner of your whitelist-only ga added you to blacklist :)
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I've caught, on very rare occasions, people on my WL who had BLed me.
Had couple of those in past.. and strangely most of them removed me from blackilst when BL started to work in dual way xD
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Thank you for your input!
Yes, you are correct on all accounts. However, I am not afraid, so to speak, on getting on many blacklists, nor do I even care that much - I was simply intrigued (it was my first time getting blacklisted in large numbers for a comment nobody even replied to) and wanted to express myself and voice my own/hear other opinions on the matter.
Your words below are on point as well. We have internet personas that are sometimes different from our real-live-selves. And sometimes people disagree and rub each other the wrong way by pure chance while in other circumstances they might become friends. But that is life, not much can really be done about it and it's not even that important.
Leechers probably should be dealt with but I still haven't even considered that, I don't really spend that much time here, but I will take it into consideration.
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Well... Initialy i blacklist people who broke the rules such as duplicate win, won my games and bad ratio, those who blacklist and enter my giveaway.
The reason for blacklisting those who won my game is to allow others to win.
Duplicate win is those who dont follow rules.
Bad ratio is sort of a leecher.
Those that blacklisted you andaa still enter your giveaway which is kinda sick and annoying
After a year into steamgifts, i removed everyone from my blacklist and currently having 0 people blacklisted.
Find that there is no point of keeping a list of blacklist which people will PM you to ask for reason why they are backlisted.
Suddenly, there is a mutual blacklist. Which means those who blacklist you will be blocked from your giveaway so it's kind funny that my blacklist from others start to decrease.
Well it's a fun place hope you enjoy your stay :D
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Thank you for your input!
So would you say you matured a bit? Or just got too lazy to care about blacklisting and getting messages and such?
I wasn't really active in that non-mutual-blacklist era so I guess I wouldn't know. But I understand the point - leeching all the way xD
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Matured/ lazy to care?
Well I would say take its a mixture of both as I find that it's no point doing and everyone should should hve an equal chance to win expecially when the rate of getting the win is quite low for loe level giveaway.
Leeching is da best :D
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blacklist is nothing much
but sgtool, now that's different. just because of some mistake from way back then, you're permanentlly banned FOREVER, not just for a single person but anyone who use sgtools
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Hmmm... That's something I'm unaware of, how does that work?
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it's simply check your winning rate, double win(same game), how many you've won vs how many you've sent etc.
in my case it's simply because i've won the same game twice (not really a game, but software), way back then when i was just a noob (for a week, a day? i forgot), doesnt know the rules and even the gifter doesnt know it. getting the same win on the same week. and then voilla insta suspend and even worst this double win is a must in every sgtool filter. and there you go, i'm barred from entering in 99% sgtool link
sheesh, if it werent allowed then why the hell is SG doesnt "sync" whenever winner check his/her winning. sync account is potentionally remove most SG problem for suspending.
doesnt matter though, since i still got some winning from public ones lol
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You can still fix it by coming to an agreement with one of the GA creators so they they delete their GA (although years later, it may be difficult ti reach them)
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nah, it's fine. i'm not desperate for joining anyway. besides 400p per day are always gone in the blink of an eye
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Oooh, I see - I did not know it works like that - thank you for clarifying it for me! Yes, attempting to solve it with the giveaway creator would be ideal I think as well.
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Here's the thing - you could read some "controversial" topics recently, and of course, ignoring them would change nothing, but I noted that after expressing what most would consider an unpopular opinion/stance on a matter I find myself on quite a few blacklists, and find it somewhat amusing. One could say my stance was conservative and closed-minded sure, but is that reason enough (obviously one does not need any actual reason, but for the sake of discussion) to blacklist someone - just because you disagree with something they said? It's not that important, I just find it curious. I also realize that this might be another of those "controversial" threads, but, hey, free speech? I'm also interested in the POV of others of course, otherwise I wouldn't even ask.
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