Humble Hope For Orphans Bundle

3 tiers, 12 games

09 January - 23 January 2018


View this bundle on: ITAD - Barter.vg - Lestrades


Notice: āš ļø Region lock āš ļø

HomefrontĀ®: The Revolution
These packages exist (which of them is given by Humble Bundle is yet to find out (only EU, NA and RU/CIS confirmed so far)):

  • EU <- confirmed
  • NA (can be activated anywhere ROW except for Europe) <- confirmed
  • RU/CIS (+run lock) <- confirmed
  • BR
  • Oceania (+Run lock), each get keys specific for their regions.
  • Asia ROW activation except NA / EU / RUCIS / BR / Oceania

Tier 1 - $1 (about ā‚¬0.84)

Game Ratings Cards Bundled Retail Price
ā˜  Rising Storm Game of the Year Edition 98% of 83 reviews ā¤ 0 $19.99
ā˜  Killing Floor 96% of 30,340 reviews ā¤ 5 $19.99
BLACKHOLE 87% of 335 reviews ā¤ 0 $8.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946 90% of 969 reviews - 6 $9.99

Tier 2 - BTA: lowest $5.96

Game Ratings Cards Bundled Retail Price
Killing Floor 2 89% of 35,650 reviews ā¤ 1 $29.99
King's Bounty: Platinum Edition 90% of 350 reviews - 1 $19.99
HomefrontĀ®: The Revolution 58% of 5,632 reviews ā¤ 1 $29.99
  • Tripwire Soundtrack Pack

Tier 3 - $10 (about ā‚¬8.35)

Game Ratings Cards Bundled Retail Price
Rising Storm 2: Vietnam 78% of 9,230 reviews ā¤ 0 $24.99
Call to Arms - Full Version 66% of 3,815 reviews ā¤ 0 $29.99
Call to Arms - Deluxe Edition upgrade 77% of 58 reviews ā¤ 0 $14.99
  • $2 Humble Wallet credit for Monthly subscribers

Call to Arms - Full Version cannot be given away currently.

ā˜  - Game was free at some time and does not grant any CV if given away.

Retail:

  • Tier 1 = $58.96
  • Tier 1 + 2 = $138.93
  • Tier 1 + 2 + 3 = $208.90

CV:

  • Tier 1 = 2.8470
  • Tier 1 + 2 = 14.8425
  • Tier 1 + 2 + 3 = 25.3380

Chart created with Lex's SG Chart Maker


Charities supported: Change30 | Russian Orphans


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Thanks to luckz for providing the poll answers. He apologizes for the WW1 typo. It's obviously WW2.

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Are you a hopeful orphan?

View Results
Woop woop, this bundle really trips my wires. T3 for the Vietnam PTSD.
I'm abstaining from the Call to Arms, but I must defend the Homefront. T2!
Just a tiny BLACKHOLE in my wallet, plus a mild dose of WW1. T1 it is.
Unsure if this is the Floor I'm looking to Kill. Pondering.
I already fought in these Revolutions, no thanks. Got 'em.
Not even the King's Bounty is enough to entice me, abstaining.
Rebundles of monthlies and past stuff, and that lame subscriber wallet credit. Eh.

waiting for chart, thanks! (:

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Who wants Killing Floor and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad with Rising Storm

i have 2 keys each
got the bundle just for 2 BlackHole's ( Ķ”Ā° ĶœŹ– Ķ”Ā°)

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me pls :)

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Can I have the one Killing Floor.

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I think i want.

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Somehow i already have them

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I'd like Killing Floor 2 if you still have it. :)

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i dont have kf2

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can I have rising storm?

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lul
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Deleted since I own both already :) Thanks anyway!

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Can I have one rising storm, thanks!

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Thanks for posting :)

Wow, that was fast chart

6 years ago
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Thank you for the post!

6 years ago
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Such TWI.

I see Call to Arms as owned because I 'own' the F2P sub.

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thank you op, fast as always

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Gonna skip that. Only one I don't have and have a mild interest in is Blackhole, and I'm not really a fan of platformers. Looks like Indiegala is getting my small bundle budget this year so far!

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With that point and click bundle I'm not even surprised :)

6 years ago
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$6.13 lowest i seen

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Started at $6 (6.01 to beat) as usual (not always, but most of the time).

Edit: Average $5.96 lowest I have open (right after the start, and dang was it slow today).

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I guess so, but the site was very slow at the launch time :(
so only catch $6.14

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at start i got 6.26

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$5.96 lowest I have open
What toolz do you use? :D

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Just manually hit reload in 4 tabs in Firefox at bundle time, slowly one after the other (and then waited several minutes because it was extremely slow to load). Two opened with 6.00, one with 5.96 and one with 6.24

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lowest was 6,01 on start :)

BTW: Will not buy probably - it was preaty long when i bought regular bundle from HB, mostly due repeats.

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didnt load for me

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Thanks for the chart. Bundles gonna be a no from me dawg

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2pewpew4me. Only interested in King's Bounty and I'm not going T2 for it.

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same here, have been wanting to try King's Bounty games for a while

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Thank you for the thread and chart, Sensualshakti! ^^

Some nice games in this bundle especially IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946.

6 years ago
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Rising Storm - was free
KF - was free
Plane game is old and many times rebundled..
so its like $1 for just Blackhole :/ nty. $1 for 1 game isnt bundle for me

BTA rebundles... eh, at actual price not worth

FBTA no comment i never buying them :D

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Many repeats, but T3 in a few days. Thanks for the quick chart & great poll! :-)

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great poll

Such praise, much delight.
I felt the last two options needed more separation. Oh, and the grueling World War 1 instead of World War 2 typo lol....
Sorry again for that :<

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Got to admit that I didn't realize the typo.

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Thanks for the post. Sadly not a really good bundle

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Rarely I've been left so uninterested by an HB.

Also, as already noted, there's some twisted irony in having so many war games in a bundle dedicated to orphans.

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I noticed that too: Let's better the condition of people in a foreign country who are considered disposable...by buying games centered around mowing down people in a foreign country who are considered disposable.

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I guess they could be seen as interactive educative pieces of software explaining why there are so many orphans in need of help.

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If only that were the message of modern war games...

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that ....

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Next bundle will be dedicated to those starving, and it will be mostly games about food,.

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Overcooked.

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that's what she says whenever i cook

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somehow i would expect This war of mine in such themed bundle.

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Thanks for posting shakti:) Tier 1 is pretty strong for this bundle. Might get that.

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meh

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If you don't own the games why not but war is not really my cup of tea.

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Got Blackhole from a friend, and that's all that I was missing / wanting from the bundle :)
(BTA could be pretty good for people who missed out those games, I'm fairly sure that the extras can be sold in Group Buys to reduce the costs)

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Huh. That will be a no from me.

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Well if you are a fan of the games in tier 3 or missing the games in t1 it is an ok bundle I guess..
I bet most people already have tier 1 games and t3-t2 difference is so small better get t3 if you are gonna buy t2 anyways...

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The issue I see with T3 is that the game doesn't only have a free MP base game, and a paid full game, and a deluxe edition, but on top of that it has an ULTIMAAAAAAATE edition with a season pass
http://cdn.edgecast.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/561140/extras/chart_versions.png
http://store.steampowered.com/app/561140/Call_to_Arms__Season_Pass/

Bonus points if they'll later do more DLCs outside the season pass xD

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lol indeed... Sorry about that, I am not interested in that game and haven't noticed you actually need to buy the "season pass" on top of the full game + deluxe edition for the full content, who knows maybe they will release a GOTY deluxe ultimate founders edition dlc later on...
Still I think HB credit + some "almost full version" of free MP game and RS2: Vietnam is worth adding 3 bucks on top of the BTA price.

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Very true, Vietnam was $12.5 or so in the last two sales, and while it's a bit low on maps and I hate most of the maps, it's sure fun to play.

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"Hope for Orphans" is quite the dark bundle title...
I'm really hoping whoever came up with that just confused the grammar for "Giving Hope to Orphans". šŸ™„

Hope, definition: To wish for something to be true, or for an event to occur. / The expectation of the fulfillment of such a wish.

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hope, n, the feeling that what is wanted can be had or that events will turn out for the best:

But yes...other interpretations exist... "Why would they be hoping for more orphans? Is that why they're selling wargames?"

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That's just a rephrasing of the second definition I listed, with the two definitions I provided being, as far as I'm aware, the extensive summary of the definition for the word. Past that, it's a matter of how the grammar works: The current phrasing can never mean the positive interpretation that is hopefully intended by the bundle. Think of the phrase "Hope for rain". It always means "[To wish for] rain". You can say "Providing hope for rain", and that changes the meaning to the second definition. It's always one of the two definitions I listed, and the distinction between which definition is intended is consistent depending on what phrasing you use.

"[To wish] for Orphans" vs "Providing [the expectation of the fulfillment of wishes] for Orphans" or " Giving [the expectation of the fulfillment of wishes] to Orphans". Unless you add a modifier that clearly indicates you aren't using the verb form, the proper interpretation is to recognize that form as being the one in use. While that's certainly not true for casual dialogue, where you may find people using the definitions interchangeably without paying mind to the overall sentence structure, in a professional written format you would expect an adherence to more formal grammar expectations.

I mean, I could assume error in my recollections on this, but I've scoured quite a few grammar sites about it just now, and they've all confirmed the interpretation I'm familiar with. Without a modifier to indicate the noun form being present, you assume a 'ghost' verb modifier, eg, "To" [hope for orphans].
Of course, even if it is shown that the usage can be interchangeable in a formal format as well as a casual one, it's never professional to use ambiguous phrasing in the first place, meaning the current phrasing is still in error- in much the same way that "Love the Dick" would be an inappropriate title, even if the intended meaning was completely non-sexual and wholly relevant to the titles included in the bundle.

All that aside, I was actually just pointing it out because I thought it was a good bit of dark humor.. :X

"Why would they be hoping for more orphans? Is that why they're selling wargames?"

It really does explain a lot though, doesn't it? :S

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Without a modifier to indicate the noun form being present, you assume a 'ghost' verb modifier

It's pretty easy with a simple noun:
Death to the dictator

Or with a simple verb:
Pray for the homeless

Hope is rather special in that the verb hope goes with 'for'. Other verbs that the word factory made with accompanying identical nouns, like abuse, don't have this problem:
Abuse for all!
(to) abuse for is not a thing, so it's clearly the noun.

Humble are not alone in their use of it:
https://hftw.org/ - Hope for the world, strikes me as the noun as well, and is really pretty identical-ish to this bundle title in grammar.


What is the grammar site interpretation explanation for down with the King? Down is an adverb. But we also have a preposition, an adjective, an informal verb and a bizarre American Handegg noun (as well as a more useful noun).
An adverb needs a verb to modify. What's the verb?

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First, I posted prior to your edit. I agree that my definition approximates your second definition added, I believe, in the edit.

I don't think the title of the bundle rises to the level of a grammatical error, although it does have other (comical, dark, and perfectly grammatically valid) interpretations. There is an implied, "this bundle represents" before the "hope for orphans." I don't think "Prayer for homeless people" suggests a prayer that there will be an influx of homeless people in the world. In both of these cases, I think context trumps exact word choice.

I do believe/agree that a professional writer, editor, or somebody on the site should recognize the other (unfortunate, dark) interpretation, even if it's obvious by context that it's not the intended meaning. It would have been easy to change it to "Hope for the Orphans," which removes some ambiguity (don't you agree?) Better to avoid the jokes it could give rise to, the possible misinterpretation, and the discussion fodder on internet gaming forums. :p

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Prayer doesn't follow the same grammatical rules as Hope, though (Firstly, in meaning- the noun form of Prayer doesn't suddenly mean you expect your prayer to come true; Secondly, unlike Hope and Hoping, you have Pray, Prayer, and Praying, meaning that Prayer doesn't share both a verb and noun usage like Hope does, with Hope's two utilizations being split between Pray and Prayer. Of course, Pray for Homeless People doesn't interpret as Pray for Homeless People [to exist], true- but again, that's a distinction between how the two different words are utilized in relation to other words, and not due to grammatical constants.)
A better comparison would be "Wish"- ie, "Wish for Orphans" versus "A Wish for Orphans", which has a similar approach of applying modifiers to obtain the noun utilization of the word. Likewise, wish is often directly interchangable with hope, meaning you can surface-check how your presentation sounds by substituting wish in place of hope.

Likewise, we're not talking contextual intuiting, we're talking formal presentation. While from our end it's just comical, from Humble's end it's a quality-lax formatting error. Like, putting a ' in the wrong location- regardless of how easy it is to intuit the correct positioning, it still speaks of lax oversight quality from the company presenting that formatting. Moreover, had their intent been providing Hope to orphans, It would have been Hope / for Orphans, not Hope for / Orphans, as they currently have it formatted (note where the coloration is split). Between the phrasing and presentation, the title ends up being rather dubious in its presentation. Our ability to interpret a functional meaning has no relation to their marketing team's quirky design decisions on the matter.

"Hope for the Orphans" (without a preceding 'A') adds another grammatical quirk- Hope for the Orphans to do what, exactly? Despite that grammatical quirk, "Hope for the Orphans" would nevertheless be a nice way of diluting the darker meaning (as such meaning is nearly impossible to interpret once you add the 'the' in), especially if the emphasis on different parts of the phrase was also removed, leaving us with a slightly awkward but rather functional title.
Which is to say, if you present it as Hope / for the orphans [which has the effective grammatical presentation of Hope (for the Orphans) ] it works as emphasizing the noun interpretation, and does seem to come across a fair bit clearer than Hope (for Orphans). Currently, the main issue is that it's Hope for (Orphans), which distinctly indicates the verb presentation of the word; though the fact that they're using "Hope for" instead of "Hope to" muddles the matter to begin with, as "Hope for" is primarily associated with the verb utilization of the word, and invites confusion just from that.

In short, to recap, Hope has to have a modifier to distinguish it as utilizing its noun format, due to its versatility as serving as both a noun and a verb, and especially given that the verb form is dominant in utilization. That modifier can be as simple as adding "the" or by separating the word from other words [as a noun interpretation is assumed where there is no associated context to give meaning to the verb form], but it needs to be present. Likewise, using "hope for" where the intent is "hope to" is misleading, and should be avoided where modifiers don't make the intended distinction clear.

The fact that Humble used the most misleading phrasing possible, and then separated it at the wrong point for the predicted meaning, and did it all for a bundle with content that seems to match the negative interpretation rather than the positive one, is just weird. I mean, it's a good bit of dark humor, but it does also make my inner editor squint their eyes dubiously toward Humble's marketing staff. :P

If I recall correctly, similar examples of such a phrasing typically emphasize a separation of the 'for' (which Humble already does by sizing, but ruins by coloration), to try and highlight both words as being separate nouns connected by the 'for'. In fact, I guess most of why the negative interpretation is emphasized, boils down to someone not coloring within the correct lines.
Man, and who said kindergarten doesn't teach you anything useful, huh?

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I agree that "Prayer for" is a slightly different case, but it's a similar example in that the intention, especially in context, is clear.
I hadn't noticed the coloration...that's an amusing tidbit though I don't think it makes the intention any less clear.
I still don't think it's a full-blown grammatical error (though it could be clarified), and I've done some editing in my day as well.
I also still think "Hope for the Orphans" is a reasonable edit/clarification as "Hope for the Orphans to do what, exactly" strikes me as going out of one's way to mis-interpret meaning.

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Haha that was the first thing I noticed.

The replies seem to veer off into debating the grammatical 'correctness' of the phrase, but that's all irrelevant and particularly silly when dealing with a play on words. Interpretations that rest on implications make for all the better burns and blusters.

Pretty sure it's an intentional double entendre about the irony of a war game package in support of orphans. And a damn good one.

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How did you even end up here? Is there a search parameter to search comments by users? I have been wanting to know if such parameter exist. :)

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Hahaha, awww I was anticipating a parameter. Well, you did find a Surprise! XD

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So you decided it was worth an useless necro bump just to spam that?
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/beSEj/necro-illegal

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Happy Cakeday!!! :D

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I was about to say CV farming bundle, especially with Glitchfront: The Bugalution in it, but I think the whole pack triggers the bundle list threshold, so this really is for those who want to support charity.
Which is a significantly better one than the one for AGDQā€¦ Still, I am surprised they did not make an AGDQ bundle, maybe supporting PCF is too embarrassing now even for Humble.

Oh, and I am glad to see that they continue the tradition of putting semi-recent HB Monthly games to Tier 2.

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I don't understand their claim of $247 total MSRP.

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Damn, I would love that King's Bounty, but... ugh at all that other stuff. Maybe I'll get lucky and win it. I don't think the rest of the stuff makes this bundle worth it for me.

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I added you! :o

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You were so fast with the post and chart that a certain other bundle poster deleted his minimalist post because yours immediately gained traction. :D

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Perhaps he closed it to be polite, so there wouldn't be two threads.

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History suggests otherwise in this case, but yes, that's possible.

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Where is the upvote for this message :)

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Right above this comment.

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maybe he finally realized how uninformative his thread was

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