Он бывший украинец из Польши. Значит трижды предвзятый, а не здравомыслящий.
Судьба Украины печальна и неизбежна, как и её героев-бандеровцев. Все нацисты и их режимы заканчивают одинаково. Нравится нам это или нет. Историю не обманешь.
Она, конечно, может ещё пожить, но только в случае третьей мировой, которая закончится полным поражением России и Китая. Но захотите ли вы жить с выжившей Украиной в мире ожившего "Сталкера" среди руин и в противогазе? Я сомневаюсь, она того не стоит. Поэтому, чем быстрее эта раковая опухоль прекратит своё существование, тем лучше будет всему миру.
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Repeat all that nonsense in English, please, so everyone can read it (and blacklist you)
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Since he doesn't have the balls to do it, I'm just gonna post the Google Translation of merrcy's comment here:
He is a former Ukrainian from Poland. So thrice biased, not sane.
The fate of Ukraine is sad and inevitable, just like its Bandera heroes. All Nazis and their regimes end the same way. Whether we like it or not. You can't fool history.
She, of course, can still live, but only in the event of a third world war, which will end in the complete defeat of Russia and China. But do you want to live with surviving Ukraine in the world of the revived "Stalker" among the ruins and in a gas mask? I doubt she's worth it. Therefore, the sooner this cancerous tumor ceases to exist, the better it will be for the whole world.
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Strange thing is that Russia, or rather Russian regime (& its indoctrinated followers) is so isolated in their view of Ukraine as a country & Russia's "peaceful" intervention in so called people's republics. The whole world seems to be blind. 🤔
But wait, there are some enlightened countries (and groups) that share your perspective & endorse Russian aggression:
🇻🇪 Venezuela
🇳🇮 Nicaragua
🏴☠️ Houthis
🇧🇾 Belarus
🇨🇺 Cuba
🇸🇾 Syria
Edit: I don't mean to offend anybody, based on their nationality. What I wanted to say is that it seems kinda strange to me how, despite the obvious isolation of Russia's views, some people fall for that savage propaganda.
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The self-proclaimed president of Belarus basicaly sold his country to Putin to keep his position. There are a small amount of people who belive in Russian propaganda, but I doubt that most Belarusians are supporting this decision. At least all my Belarusian friends aren't.
For the other countries... Well, I don't have a clue what the locals are thinking about it (probably they don't give a shit since they have their own problems). But their corrupt regimes are getting money and weapons from our (Russian) government. Just yesterday we've prolongued Cuba's credit for example. So, it's a simple trade.
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...or because it's not XIX/XX century anymore. I'm not saying that the world is all peaceful these days or that US or NATO actions are always accurate. Of course not. But such an open aggression & and based on what? Listening to Putin it sounds like it's based on fear. Fear of Ukraine? This is plainly absurd. Excuses. Russia (or Russians) is not a victim here. The whole world moved forward, but Russia is still grieving over the fall of USSR. Ukrainians made their decision, to leave it. I thought the people's will is what should matter the most - also for those who perceive the times of the USSR somehow positively.
I can't imagine how any one would support open aggression. That is why Putin is desperately trying to make people believe this is not an aggression, but protective actions. Most of the world can easily see through this unbelievable excuses, but it seems to take its toll over the "motherland".
Edit: by Russia I mean the regime government ofc, not all Russians. I'm sure that, as AmikoNovich said many people there strongly disagree with what their government is doing.
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Being a Russian citizen, I cannot express enough how immense my hate for this bullshit Putin's regime is. Poverty levels are off-the-charts, our economy is in stagnation for many years now since the 2014, government institutions are degraded beyond repair, and all this bunker rat cares for is fucking geopolitics, invading neighboring countries and supporting inhuman regimes across the globe, poisoning and assassinating those who dare to oppose him. Don't let me start on basically nonexistent citizen rights here in Russia - you'll get beaten up and put behind the bars if attempted to use your constitutional right to protest this bullshit.
I feel apathy, depression and hopelessness, I'm in fear of a full-scale war with the country that under normal circumstances would be our closest ally and trading partner, hell, I have friends and work colleagues there and I'm ashamed by being, even though indirectly, but responsible for threatening wellbeing and lives of theirs and their closest ones.
Looking around, I see no one around me who's in support of all of this, but this asshole government is not really interested in what we think, no one's asking us of our opinion. My only hope is that this is going to be the dying agony of the weakening but cruel regime and that those who are in charge of it will get what they deserve.
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Да, самое печальное, что я ни знаю ни одного человека, кто одобрял бы всю эту дичь (может круг общения виноват), но власть мнение граждан не беспокоит абсолютно. Я очень надеюсь конечно, что все к лучшему, как предполагал выше человек из Польши, инвестиции в будущее, помощь ближним и все такое, но как-то война не лучшая форма помощи, да и последние 15 лет моя жизнь улучшается разве что из-за глобализации, экономика нашей страны только падает, а правительство пытается усыпить нас внешней политикой и лозунгами уровня кругом враги. Грустно говорить, мне стыдно перед моими друзьями с Украины, что я русский.
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Происходящее сейчас это какое-то совершенное безумие 😑 даже если всё закончится в эту самую секунду, мы будем ощущать последствия ещё долгие десятилетия
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There are TONS of police and OMON on the streets. It's like I said, you'll get beaten up and put behind the bars if you try to protest. That doesn't stop some, that won't stop me because now there's a fucking war our so-called government started
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It sucks how powerless this situation makes me feel, but at the very least, have a Bump, my friend. As someone who comes from a torn-up country, I feel for you. I really hope things get better
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Just keep in mind that there are very few people in Russia, who are actually sharing Putin's ideas, don't hate russians just because we live here, I believe that most of us are against everything that is happening right now. I guess russian citizens are just too scared or smth to go outside and share their opinion with "people" out there in marble palaces. And there are reasons for that. And for that matter, many of my relatives and friends are willing to go abroad, in order just not to feel involved in these brutal actions, though they hate us around the globe thanks to a bunch of barbarians in suits.
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Dont be so sure on numbers. I recently saw some french channel asking people around Moscow and the majority was aligned with Putin on the matter, aligned with the propaganda.
Was it because it was on camera, so they spoke as supporters? Was it because it was Moscow, and there the majority skews towards the government? Maybe
But that aligns with some analysis ive saw, just a few touch on the subject but chances are a majority supports or at least is indifferent to the invasion. It would be weird and much trickier for any country, even Putin`s Russia to launch an action like this, facing that level of sanctions with a majority against it. Even if only very few spoke aloud (out of fear for example) it have more to do with political cost- even if the entire country pretends to like you but actually hates you youre imediatly 90% closer to a coup.
My point is: real numbers and perception can differ a lot and regions matter too.
For example most americans ive spoken too tought the rightwing leaned in their country was much less- it took Trump winning for the real numbers to become more obvious. Same happened in my country, we always knew we had some extremism and right wing- but NEVER on the level that suddenly appeared after our current rightwing wacko rose to the presidency.
Couple of reasons for that:
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Sadly there are many cases like this all around the world. In some cases there is little to no rationale to impose something on others, be them around you or on another country; it's all motivated by personal/egotistic interests, greed, power hunger, resource envy (isn't Ukraine proportionately more rich in oil reserves than Russia?) and more often than not, just pure ignorance (deliberate or not) about imposing own beliefs and politics. Look at Nepal, look at Chechenia, in the end we're not that far from medieval times like "it's in our own interest to be at war so let's go".
Now it should be time to say something like "I hope things go to better with the matter", but usually before situations like this get solved, they go to worse and some crisis has to trigger a change. What change in what direction? No one can tell. I just hope, really really hope, this doesn't become "Chechenia II: Now we go for Ukrania."
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I'm deeply ashamed to be Russian these days. I've never voted for this government and this president, and I've spent countless hours on protest rallies when people all around me were being detained (weirdly enough, I never was - probably this means that I'm a coward). Still, it's hard not to feel responsibility for everything that's going on. These days the protest is completely dead in Russia. Almost all the opposition leaders are incarcerated, have left the country or even have been assassinated, many human rights organizations have been banned. Even single-person pickets are punishable by law, they've basically won, all we do is write emotional posts in social networks (and yes, that can become a reason for arrest as well - because, you know, extremism and stuff) and sign petitions, but that's, of course, just a way to calm ourselves a bit and not real actions. I'm really, really ashamed. And I'm afraid.
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Really, you should be proud of yourself, not ashamed. As all people who does not support war or regims that dont respect human rights of ppl
We know he first victims of sly P. are russians , daily, for restraints, repression of protests and no perspectives. Stay yourself and keep safe
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что ж
I can only offer my condolences to the Russians and Ukrainians. I don't know why the dictator needed Ukraine. just keep stealing money and that's it. but no, it's more like Hitler, because I just don't understand why he doesn't like Ukrainians so much
I am not sure that sanctions will give anything. it would be great if they were all stripped of everything. but gas and oil are flowing to Europe, real estate is being bought in USA, Euro and Britain. dirty money settles abroad. liberals were drowned in concrete, along with freedom of speech and laws
Ordinary people do not need a war. since 2014, the most vile part of Putin's board has begun, which is killing the already barely alive institutions. Not to mention neighboring countries. And I'm afraid it's far from over
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Russia is triggered because Ukraine is getting help from its enemies. Things could have been much better or cooler if there was no proxy support from USA and European union to put pressure on Russia. Ukraine should struggle for its sovereignty alone without the help so-called peace maker USA or NATO. But its only my point of view :)
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or maybe the big bully is an enemy of that big friend and thats why big bully hates the small victim. In the end the so-called big friend dumps the small victim.
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Our (Russian) government, most likely, a way more corrupt than Ukrainian. Sure, our land has more resources to pillage and more humans to rob, but I can't say that people here have a better life. Safer? Maybe. Until you say something negative about our politicians, law enforcers, military or local religious cult. Or until you say something positive about the opposition and human rights organisations. In other terms, it gets shittier every month and there is a lot of people who can't afford even the cheapest products and meds.
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Germany. One of the wealthiest countries in the world with the quality of life on according level. But poor Germans still starving and there is no one to help. Well, I guess one's perception of starvation can differ, but something seems off here.
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I have neither money, nor heath to travel (despite I really wish to), but I know a few people who live there. And from what I've heard/seen/read — its citizens are far from starvation.
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That's the greatest collection of bs about Germany I've read in quite some time. Pretty much nothing is even remotely correct.
Education remains at the same level. Companies are eagerly looking for employees, we actually have huge amounts of vacant roles. Most sorts of crimes have been at a record low level for years (see here.)
Kind regards
A German
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I live in the reality, where I don't project bad experiences I might make onto the whole country.
You know, there always is room for improvement. But a tirade how pretty much anything is fucked up can't be taken seriously. And I can't remain silent when you push this nonsense image of Germany to an international audience.
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If I deny your suggestion that everything is terrible, doesn't imply that it must be a paradise.
But your "skilled argumentation style" plus the quality of your claims is telling enough, I've done my job here and can ignore your further mumbling.
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I've seen homeless persons in Germany. Sometimes based on freedom, missing willingness to cooperate with the capitalists or authorities or illegal immigrants. All these situations can be avoided, if you really want to. Besides that there are some homeless people in every country.
Luckily I haven't witnessed a shooting yet. I hope you called the police.
I don't know any drug addicted people with children right now. I hope you reported them, so the kids can grow up in a better environment.
If protesters show (Neo-)Nazi symbols or yell such slogans, I will call them Neonazis. If not, I don't have any reason to call them that way.
I assume that you might be in an unsatisfying life situation right now. I had trouble to finance my studying years ago and I don't agree with all laws and rules. But Germany is by far the wealthiest country in Europe. Considering history we should be pretty grateful that we were helped and allowed to get back to this economical and political state. Being born in Germany out of all the places in the world is pure luck. And since oneself doesn't have any influence on the birthplace, it's not a reason for pride.
Asking Ukrainian users what their nation has ever done for us is like asking a homeless beggar in the streets to give you his few collected cents so you could buy a Steam game. Self-righteous for no reason.
I can only hope that the international users are aware that your opinion above is quite unique.
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Wow, those games are made in Ukraine? Awesome, TIL.
Wishing the situation resolves in the best way possible. Politics suck when it comes to these matters...
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We Are The Dwarves also I think. One game that I want to check out sometime, too.
I hope for the best, but I'm following on what is happening on Ukraine border with a great fear.
Take care, brother.
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That kind of discussion is destined to turn into shitstorm and chaos, so I won't stick here for long.
But, yeah, good luck to Ukraine.
Our "tsar" has gone completely nuts (I guess it's dementia) and we all suffering from his actions. And I fear that we will be paying for his idiotic decisions for decades to come.
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Someone should have done it, and apparently you were actually the brave one. But yes, I'm totally impressed by the lack of insults in this thread.
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Actually, I've been thinking about this situation a lot lately and I've opened SG discussions expecting to find a similar topic for a month. But it seemed the world outside Russia and Ukraine doesn't really care. I'm glad I was wrong.
And, yeah, the lack of insults and other shit is impressive. I guess the gaming community don't believe in our propaganda as much as some other social stratum.
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I understand your feelings, and hope everything will turn out for the best.
We've just kinda come out of a global pandemic, which put a lot of things on halt for about two years, and now the prospect of a possible World War III or close to it...
If it's unsettling for me, who live in Western Europe, I can only imagine how taxing and dreadful this whole thing must be for Ukrainians (and I'm sure for many Russians as well).
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Украинцы выдуманный народ, переименованные русины/русские, и вся их государственность от Ленина и большевиков, до них ничего не было. Нанешнюю Украину постигнет судьба Рейха и Карфагена. Учите историю, её законы не изменить хочется вам того или нет.
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Say something similar about another oppressed people? How about Jews? It's too fiction?
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+1 как говорят "История циклична и имеет свойство повторяться" Очень жаль, что наши предки зря боролись за мир. они освободили от нацистов много стран по пути в Берлин, но эти страны забыли об этом, нацизм снова расцвёл на Украине. история хочет напомнить о себе, хорошо это или плохо. не знаю, но раз это повторилось, значит этот урок никто не усвоил.
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Maybe all those liberated countries would have been more grateful if the USSR hadn't occupied them for 45 years in turn.
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everyone talks about the occupation, but no one provides any evidence of this except for dubious articles and videos instead of valuable historical information. don't you think it's strange. the same now applies to Ukraine. they all say that it is occupied by the Russians, but unlike the general story, this is happening before your eyes and you can go and check it yourself. I will not say what is happening there because all my words will be perceived as Putin's propaganda. just take it and go there. although they may just not let you in
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Do you really believe that Ukraine is controlled by nazis ? The same nazis that didn`t even get a single seat in parliament because no one voted for them ?
Are you really trying to say russia actually went in to liberate ukraine from nazism ? After Kremlin itself has been contradictory on this ?
And you do realize people are actually going to the frontline and seeing what has been done by putins occupation. Maybe you yourself should go there and see what putin has done before you deny what is going on.
I love how you try to pull this crap about misinformation in the lliteral digital age when people get first hand videos and pictures from both sides. I`ll agree - there is propoganda of course coming from ukraines side as well, but to lie so blatantly as Kremlin and putin does is laughable and if you support that view of course people will call it putins propoganda because it is exactly that.
Even what has happened in Donbas and Crimea it at no point means you can invade a whole country.
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nazism has flourished again in Ukraine. history wants to remind itself, good or bad.
Maybe I lost you in the translation, but your initial comment does indicate you are referring to this "denazification" which putin used as propoganda to invade ukraine.
I do apologize if I misunderstood you, but putins propoganda is mostly against Ukraine and sorry to say, proven to be lies.
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i dont care about nazis or no nazi, but i recently saw a few videos about ukrainian military shooting at ukrainian civilists. few hours later saw news saying the russians did it. some things ust dont add up. if it would be about leveling and conquoring ukraine, russia would have done it in a blitzkrieg, but they didn't
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Do you know how many days it took the USA to conquer the militarily massively inferior Iraq? Some people have completely delusional expectations. No, Russia can't conquer a huge country of 40 million people in a few days.
If they want to level and conquer Ukraine that requires careful and slow progress and methodological shelling of resisting Ukrainian cities.
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everyone talks about the occupation, but no one provides any evidence of this except for dubious articles and videos instead of valuable historical information. don't you think it's strange.
Do you mean this about the Warsaw Pact countries after 1945? If so you must live in an alternate reality. Europe was basically divided between the West and USSR with the countries falling to USSR's sphere having no say in it whatsoever. The communist parties were installed forcefully in these countries and whenever they wanted to go their separate ways the tanks rolled in. 1956 Hungary, 1968 Czechoslovakia just to name the two most well known events. Though I've heard that many in Russia consider 1956 a nazi counter-revolution, lol.
the same now applies to Ukraine. they all say that it is occupied by the Russians, but unlike the general story, this is happening before your eyes and you can go and check it yourself. I will not say what is happening there because all my words will be perceived as Putin's propaganda. just take it and go there. although they may just not let you in.
You know that we can see hundreds of combat videos and pictures from both sides, right? Unlike in Russia where you can't even call this event an invasion I can just go and look up all the footage I want to. Of course those don't show a complete picture, especially as a lot fewer images and videos come out from the Russian side. But you can clearly see the massive destruction this war caused from videos, pictures and satellite images of Ukrainian cities. There's also at least one well respected team that tallies up only those armor / plane / ship losses that have picture/video proof. The Russian side is at 1000+ destroyed/abandoned/captured armored vehicles and the Ukrainian side has massive losses, too.
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in none of the discussions did I turn to personal insults. it already looks like him. I did not kill or torture people in concentration camps and Auschwitz, which means I cannot be a Nazi. it wasn't me who hid behind civilians and shot my comrades in the back who were scared, it wasn't me who fired at houses, relatives and schools, which means I'm not a Nazi. turn off the Internet, your Ukrainian fake, go outside, if you don't understand the bullet from your own "defenders" you will be very lucky. you have already insulted me twice, while I am neutral in the dialogue and continue to be so. all your attempts to provoke me into a conflict have failed. good luck!
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Here's a good video about the origins of the current situation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDjKuUTb2Bc
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I wholly agree with your message, Ukraine is not a part of Russia and never was, but i would like to share my thoughts on the current situation:
Russia will not invade Ukraine for the reason of they do not have the military force to carry out a large scale war, the eyes of the world are on this event and if (god forbid) this evolves into a war we are looking at a WW3 situation in the case of if Russia invades, China will back them and most likely North Korea as well in opposition would most likely be America, UK, (maybe) most of the other major countries in Europe and despite Putin's intentions regardless of the chest pounding he knows this is a fight he will not win.
I prey this will not evolve into that situation and i cannot even imagine how scared I would be if i was in that situation but please know Ukraine is not alone
Stay strong dude xx
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Its just sad, saw a video where a lady filmed from her window and the shells where landing a few meters from her house. No human needs war except the power mongering goons high up. I hope one day we get over this and become free. imagine it's war and nobody goes there!
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Fuad Alakbarov on Twitter: "First footage is emerging near Mykolaivka. You can hear the heavy clashes between Ukraine and Russian forces. #Ukraine " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/DrAlakbarov/status/1496662247682236425
It seems to have started.😨
It was exactly one hour after I posted....
I hope it's safe.
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Marco Rubio on Twitter: "The #Russian invasion of #Ukraine is now underway" / Twitter
https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1496667918490382343
Marco Rubio on Twitter: "In the hours to come #Russia will -conduct strikes on air defense systems -move to cut off #Kyiv from eastern #Ukraine -move to cut off Ukraine’s military forces on the line of contact in the east to prevent them from falling back to defend Kyiv" / Twitter
https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1496670465879941120
Marco Rubio - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Rubio
United States Senator from Florida
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Speaking of which, do you guys know how to find out where the human race is?
Every human being these days carries a smart phone with GPS turned on.
We don't use optical devices or bio-currents to detect them because it is a pain in the ass.
It seems that there are some evil people on earth who would use these to attack us.
I have one more announcement.
Destructive Malware Targeting Organizations in Ukraine | CISA
https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/alerts/aa22-057a
Malware that makes your computer virtually unrecoverable seems to be distributed by evil humans.
It would be easier to understand if we say that the computer will self-destruct after misuse.
It is better to do all the appropriate virus scans, malware scans and security scans.
If you can afford it, replace your router if it's an old one, or make sure the firmware version is not too old.
By the way, I heard that the U.S. secretly provided $350 million worth of equipment to Ukraine before the war started.
It seems that other Nato countries were also preparing relief supplies even if they did not go that far.
I wonder why the plan has been leaked so far?
I can't say anything right now.🛸
You all should be careful not to do anything that would violate NATO's Article 5.
When you do something, think about whether or not it violates the laws of your country.
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How Google Maps is tracking the Russian invasion of Ukraine - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/25/google-maps-ukraine-invasion/
You will probably live longer if you turn off the GPS on your smartphone.
Some people inevitably forget to turn off the GPS.
There are people who don't know how to turn off GPS, so this is a feature limitation.
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Ukraine's Kiev TV has been attacked and broadcasting has been suspended.
They are trying to resume broadcasting from other base stations a while later.
Area near Kyiv TV tower hit by military strikes
From CNN's Paul P. Murphy and Olya Voitovych
(From Telegram)
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-01-22/index.html
[NSFW]
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Now, it seems that smart Russians are moving to the front lines to avoid killing people in war, avoid the tragedy of the ruble crash, become democratic citizens before the Iron Curtain closes, and then take off their uniforms and become EU refugees.
The Russian military might feel that way if they were in a place where they only had three days' worth of food and emergency rations that were several years out of date, and where they didn't know when they would die, and if they were in poor health and had no supplies.
Within Ukraine, it seems that heavy agricultural machinery is transporting large numbers of Russian tanks and armored vehicles to the Ukrainian army.
I'm sure they do that by contacting their families on Ukrainian terminals after they "heard it was a drill" as they often say.
And it seems that Russia destroyed the TV station when those reports were inconvenient.
Well, I don't know the detailed truth because I am not there.
However, the EU does regulate the Russian media.
Russia also controls the EU media.
However, they probably know the "real story" through various means such as "TOR", "Telegram", "VPN", and the recent communication app.
In any case, there is no justification for harming others.
The Russians were the first to get their hands on it, and Belarus is complicit.
If things escalate any further, we will degenerate the human race and let the apes manage the planet starting April 1.🍮🐵
Not only do we hope that the unnecessary bloodshed will stop, but most countries other than Russia are joining in the "war-fighting" (economic pressure).
Soon, the term "Russian veto" will no longer be used in the UN.
The reason is that things have gotten so bad that there is a possibility of creating a new United Nations with other countries without Russia.
Whenever a Russian diplomatic representative opens his mouth, the majority of diplomats leave the room.
I'm not kidding, okay?
It was posted an hour and a half ago at the bottom of the URL I just gave you.
It was reported on TV all over the world.
It's not just one news station, okay?
There's an incredible amount of Russian war crimes being exposed in the light of day.
If they want to live longer, it's time for the Russians to escape for the border.
It is better to swim the sea and go into exile.
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Особисті дані 120 тисяч військових РФ, що воюють в Україні – ЦОС | Українська правда
https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2022/03/1/7327081/
Detected an important historical event.
The space translator says so, and I'm curious about the content.
I wonder if it's true?
Full status of 120,000 Russian soldiers?
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The Associated Press on Twitter: "BREAKING: Ukraine says it has reached a tentative agreement with Russia to organize safe corridors for civilians to evacuate and for humanitarian supplies to be delivered. Under the agreement, cease-fires would be observed where safe corridors are created. / Twitter
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499448966055878658
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That's it. The war's just been declared. It's actually happening.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60454795
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Странно, почему-то заочно считала тебя приличным человеком. Не знаю, с какого перепугу. Но ок. Больше мне тебе сказать нечего.
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Занятно, что люди, которые больше всех топят за войну – сами воевать не собираются. Сидят у себя дома и изливают говно в интернете. Так было в 14м, так происходит сейчас...
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Принимается. Реальную жертву конфликта с реальной травмой судить не мне.
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