Also, few people would have lots of friends who paid for an IGN Prime subscription and gave the same game to this one person who already had it.
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The QUBE giveaway creator himself said his copies were from IGN Prime. And why would multiple copies of Choplifter HD, QUBE and other games from the IGN Prime promo suddenly show up?
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Yeah, I know some people who were able to exploit IGN yesterday.
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Yeah the free 30days or 7 days trial is still going for IGN Prime.
false.
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5 more qube omg http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/XuRpW/qube
anyone knows how to get the 7 days trial on ign prime?
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There is a method many of you might not have heard of called supporting the developers instead of screwing them over, Q.U.B.E isn't worth $15 (The first 5 chapters took me 32 minutes to complete (going by Steam's timing), the rest of the game was fun and interesting) but the devs worked hard to get a product out the door. Screwing them over isn't helping anyone, if you want the game for free pirate it, because it hurts the developers less than taking their product directly from them.
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While I'm not supporting exploiting IGN, I must point out that it's not the developers of the games getting screwed over, it's IGN. IGN will have bought the keys from the developer.
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highly illegal!
cheating with credit cards is not a minor case!
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It really is credit card fraud.
You're tricking the system into thinking you paid for a subscription, when you haven't, then getting items that only someone who paid for the subscription could get. Try doing this in a shop and you'd get busted for fraud. It's just the same on the internet.
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Try doing this at a shop and the card says "no funds".
There is a process to check funds on a card. Usually they put a hold on the money and after 48h the payment process complete. It's their own fault accepting credit cards without funds, beacause their system is shit.
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Exactly, but it also depends on the agreement. Normally there's a clause like "by accessing this product you agree that you are currently able to pay your subscription" or something like that; I'm not a lawyer mind you.
Paying or not, if the agreement doesn't cover void credit cards it's their own fault.
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Intentionally using a credit card you know doesn't to have sufficient funds to pay for services is fraud. A shitty credit card checking system is not a valid excuse to commit fraud. By analogy, if a bank doesn't have any security, it is still a crime to steal from it.
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When did receive something you didn't pay for became legal? It may be legal from the Virtual Visa's company view, but from IGN it isn't.
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The law ain't the same in every country... Potato is most likely located in Eastern Europe, so just imagine what IGN would have to do to catch him... file a complaint, then wait for the US to demand his country to participate in the chase, then hope they get him.
Plus considering the relationship between the US and Russia/its surrounding countries for the past 25 years I don't think they'll be eager to devote their resources for this. Especially since Potato doesn't threaten his country in any way.
As for our Steam accounts, normally they just remove the game as per the agreement we all signed when signing up.
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Steam don't ban accounts for this. They just remove the game. My alt account with Dirt 3 (2 different leaked keys) and Dead Island only accout isn't banned. Only that the games vanished for library.
The worst scenario here is if someone trade for a key and after some time the key dissapear.
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oki thx. i wonder if its illegal if i get one for myself. =/ and how to get one key. whatever
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I don't see how it's exploiting if IGN allows people to do it. You don't even need a card with zero balance. Upload an actual card and before the trial wears off remove your information. You get free games and don't have to pay anything.
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IGN letting you cancel a subscription before you are charged isn't a flaw though because they put the option there, it's kinda like when I signed up with Netflix and they told me it was okay for me to cancel my account before 30 days was up so my card wouldn't be charged.
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Fraud is fraud no matter how you turn it around. While using the trial to get a free ROCHARD and King Arthur keys was a mistake from IGN's part, using a "flaw" in the payment system to get as many keys you want and then trade/gift them is not okay.
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This is an issue that we originally discussed, but after removing many of these giveaways, several support tickets with members proving their innocence. Instead, we've now been banning anyone that shares the exploit. We hope this doesn't last much longer, and if anyone suspects foul play, please report it in support.
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So many questions, but it's best not to ask/provide any ideas to the community.
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That's not exactly an exploit, just stupidity. :( haha.
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Unless there's a clause "Only one per account" (or "per person"). IGN really had to think this through.
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What are the possible legal repercussions for using a dead credit card?
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It's credit card fraud, so if you're in any country where you can obtain a credit card you'll be facing penalties similar to those if you committed theft. Of course, if the companies want to push it even farther with civil litigation they can do that too.
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Again an exploit? Really? That holds me up from buying prime again :(
I mean, the "exploit" with the trial was there for like... half a year? Even longer afaik (< sadly I didn't knew about it before Rochard/KA^^). It might take them that long again, or they just don't care. And if I'd buy the 1 year now, and soon everyone is using the exploit that would really suck :|
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Most of you know that IGN Prime is currently giving away some games to those that subscribe to it, and that there are giveaway of these games being held here. However, how come people are giving away 5 copies of Choplifter HD or 4 copies of QUBE if they receive a single key for each game per subscription? Don't tell me they paid for 4 or 5 different subscriptions. They probably found a way to fool IGN Prime, didn't they?
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