Imagine there's no monthlies, it's easy if you try
iam fine with a one time only battle.net monthly if they release more early unlocks and those will be the next wow expansion and diablo 3 complete with dlcs lol, else this is a definetly skipskipskipskipskip.... Cant be good bundle if they cover like 30-40% of the expected full MSRP with a half game which going obsolete in a few week with the new expansion.
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Unlikely. Maybe if enough people ask they'll change their mind still, for me the reply was "sorry no, just pause".
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Objectively, it's a good game. Especially in this deal. People just hate the season passes and endgame content and microtransactions. Despite its bad rep, I think people could enjoy it's base story, but everybody just loves to hate things, and feel entitled.
Mully was right. All this "ew it's not on Steam" is just leaving people no enjoyment of games and just hoarding of library.
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Not saying the deal isn't good, or that the game is bad. It doesn't interest me much, but I haven't ruled out giving it a try.
The point remains though that what we were sold was "All games are Steam games (or DRM-free Humble Originals)", and now that's changed to "with some exceptions".
If next month's headliner is a game for (console you don't own), but a great game and a good deal, are you still ok with it?
If next month's headliner is a software instead of a game, but it's a great software and a good deal, are you still ok with it?
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In addition to what Donners said, they did explicitly state "All games [...] will have Steam keys included", and explicitly said that information saying "in the future, some games may appear on other platforms" is incorrect.
I quoted it elsewhere in the thread, but here's the link again: https://www.reddit.com/r/GameDeals/comments/3n4o9m/humble_monthly_bundle/cvly6wf/
(Edit: The Humble Originals do already contradict the original statement, being DRM-free only; however, when those were added, they were in addition to the Monthly Bundle we subscribed for and did not replace one of the games. Destiny 2, however, is not only one of those games -- it's even the early unlock / headliner).
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But we already KNOW they didn't since they went through the whole darn deal with Destiny 1. And then doubled down and got WORSE with D2.
Why should they get any leniency that they would have learned (again) for D3 when the writing on the wall already showcases otherwise?
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Yea and it can end as for ME:A which was great game with not that bad sales but copy-pasted hates and screens gave as no chances on additional content and stopped whole franchise for a while. I'm not saying that we shouldn't stand up but make it count and do it with a proper reason other than "I don't like it so other must too". Destiny 2 isn't bad game and at that price I'm very happy with it.
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LOL ME: A is a crap game, compare it with the other MA and you get a medicare game that had problems with Animations really now for a AAA that only had cinematic graphics and little RPG elements that is beyond sad but do defend Andromeda :V :(.
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Many people who actually played the game (like for instance Total Biscuit) said it was actually quite good. Most people hated it just for the bad animations and didn't even play it. It's actually funny to see always people say how unimportant graphics are, and then suddenly they start hating a game purely for bad animations (by that i don't necessarily mean you).
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I played every ME game and can say that andromeda was great as for story and gameplay it goes. I got maby couple gliches but nothing major as ppl were complaining(show me one AAA game that is 100% polished and i won't find title+gliches on yt) and with every hate on this game I've seen alomst same screenshots. From what You wrote I wonder if You have played more than 3h into andromeda or just seen couple yt videos.
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Little one I didn't play Andromeda because it is crap ,why would I spent money on that.
The fact that you try to defend the crap of the animation on that game is enough to understand your view, the 3rd game already was pusing out the element that made the first and second great now Adromeda that was the most hyped crap on the market and came in a state that indie would laugh at them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjoZYiSY-C4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9dD9muaWNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KWkao73HuU
Etc, I kind of got bored to look for links too many :(.
This game was in alpha for me FFS.
But hey defend if you want, a game that is based of cinematic animations to make it great has this kind of animations.
It is not like a great RPG more of an action one and if the animations are this way then the game is mediocre and not AAA price at all :(.
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I enjoy destroying mediocre games !
Some education about animation in general : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qvvmVpS3AA :D.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2j5alJorxc -> no words here :(, watched it in 4k damn , don't agree with him but kind of has a point hmmm.
I hate This youtuber but again has a point : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MEKM2amQ2E
And in reality why the game that I would have liked is mediocre : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiAL3UefOro
By the way a big fan of Mass Effect but Andromeda is not MA for mois plain an simple :D.
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Really when I see Activision and Blizard defenders, I go damn this is why this games sell even tho they are crap at best :(.
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Crap at best? Blizzard constantly makes really good games. The Warcraft and Starcraft games are some of the best real-time strategy games ever released. I played Starcraft 2 just yesterday. It's brilliant. And hardly anybody except Blizzard makes these games anymore. I am so happy they do. The Diablo games are awesome. Even Diablo 3, which was initially flawed (but still way better than "crap"), is a really good game now. Hearthstone is one of the best CCGs out there. You can hate Blizzard as much as you want, but you have to admit they constantly make high quality gameplay-focussed games.
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Its funny that he says that blizzard's games are trash but if you visit blizzard website and click at games you will see 8 games, 6 of which are among the most famous and played games at pc community (diablo, starcraft, overwatch, hearthstone, world of warcraft). Even though i dont play any of them as i am not a big fan of those genres i have to admit blizzard is releasing masterpieces that no matter how much time will pass they will still be played by A LOT of gamers.
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And what are you doing, by saying that we are biased that we don't like crap like Destiny 2 in our bundles and say that we don't like the fact that it is not a steam key witch is false, I would like a lot of GOG keys, just not on a platform that has 10 games, why would I want such a platform ?
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So the platform means a lot more than a game itself? So you enjoy a game less if it's not sold, where you want it to be?
I never said the platform is great, I never said I'm okay with what they've done with all the microtransactions and stuff. I just said, that, objectively, the game itself is good if you would ignore any other stuff with cosmetics, with endgame and shit. That's all.
I'm sorry, if me liking the game makes you feel angry, that was not my intention.
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For me as a software dev that did some games in colleague it is 50 50.
If the publisher is crap the game is never 5 star ever, I can give 100 examples.
Do I need the many games franchises/ Activation destroyed, they will never make A Lost of Us of TW3 or Divinity Orginal Sin II and I ask you this, why do you thinks that is ?
I am not angry, I am more sad, that EA,Ubisoft an Activision brings mediocre games every year and so many millions buy them then buy season passes so we have 110$ now then micros transaction and they say nothing with their wallets.
But one thing is don't sell that to me I don't buy crap, they mediocre games at best, I studied game design in class and what they are doing is implementing mechanics to accommodate micros transaction and you say that platform doesn't count well yes it does ... ONE GAMES IS ENOUGH FOR ME TO NOT BUY ANY GAME FROM THEM PERIOD because of that kind of design logic.
Activion : Call of crap Destiny and some more, WB Shadow of Microtansaction, EA : Battlefront of microtansaction, Ubisoft the same game every year with new settings, OOO again games don't pop up every years a cycle is at least 4 years for a great game NOT ONE YEAR FFS.
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I would like a lot of GOG keys, just not on a platform that has 10 games, why would I want such a platform ?
[...]
and you say that platform doesn't count well yes it does ... ONE GAMES IS ENOUGH FOR ME TO NOT BUY ANY GAME FROM THEM PERIOD because of that kind of design logic.
Now decide that you're okay with GOG you just need more games on it, or you refuse to buy on a platform because of the developer (that wouldn't apply to to GOG) or that you're just getting way, way too involved in "giving about 3-4 bucks for EA at max in a monthly" that you spend half of your comments yelling in caps? :)
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I have 159 games on GOG your point is ?
I don't want give a cent to EA,that what my point, your point is again ?
I can pseudo yell throw CAPS how much I like and last your point is ?
It seams I am "yelling" to deft years per say, If you think that GOG and Steam are the same with the other platforms, then really you all deserve your AAA games standard, BYE I am bored ,don't reply :D.
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Thank you I appreciate your kinds words now BYE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RwpRQiILHU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb8fT1TVaoc
Bravo Take Two of course you support it FFS.
Congrats USA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-RLUeU8O7U , I am now proud that I an UE citizen and not a citizen of lobbyists :)),
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zS2m2R28Wk
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Wait a minute, some days ago you said that you studied economics and you have a master at it eventhough when i explained you the law of demand and supply you said nice logic. Now you are saying that you studied game desigh. I am pretty sure that you studied none of them and you just want to say multiple times that you hate EA and Activision. No matter how hard you tried both of those companies released some high quality game, not to mention that some messages above you said that blizzard's games are crap at best.
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Damn now E business is economics mkay sir.
Sir some education again bachelor degree in CS aka Computer Science and continuation in E business aka master degree, business in Electronic market :P.
Mate again, I really give zero absolute if you think "I am pretty sure that you studied none of them".
I studied a lot of things in 7 years, LOL, Computer architecture , electronics, game design with the director of Ubisoft Craiova 3 courses in second and 4th year of collage and first of master, C++, C,java , AI,networking, ethics and laws in CS, social computing and so one.
I had 8-10 lectures each semester for 7 years so do the math :)).
No mater what crap games they will release each year you will defend them, sad I see :(.
Blizzard made only a couple of games so your point is , also I have something with Activision not blizzard those I don't care because they make only multiplayer now :(.
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I like that I triggered a lot of Blizzard , EA fans :)).
Well sorry guys not all of us are sheeps like yourselves and swallow mediocre games and think they are the next best thing :)).
But hey you can prove me right by defending those masterpieces I will wait :)) FFS now EA makes great games like Battlefront II and the new new NFS :)).
From I read in here kittens, you believe that Destiny 2 is a masterpiece :)), damnnn :(
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Unsubbed after a long time. This is even worse than that time when h1z1 was early unlock because then there was another game. They should add another 2 early unlocks which are average at least to make resubscribe.
And what the hell? "Customers in China and South Korea will receive Prototype 2 as a replacement." here get a 5$ game by paying 12$.
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A 6 year old game with mixed reviews is a good sign?
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I traded my Destiny key for paypal ($9) feels like an okay/good offer to me!
Hope there are some nice goodies in the rest of the bundle, then this month is a bargain for me!
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Thanks for the encouragement ;) Got a key for Destiny 2, well it's not a Steam key and it's not just one key, but it's worth more than the $5 I would have gladly taken from Humble (but they declined). Happy for now :)
Let's hope the rest of the bundle isn't something I would have skipped ;)
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same with Overwatch and Hearthstone and HoTS, you can buy from any store (EU,US) and get what you want on the server you want.
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I have an extra Prototype 2 key to trade if anybody is interested. Not sure about keeping Destiny 2 either so might trade that as well.
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Is anyone thinking about suing them? I mean, when I purchased my annual subscription, I was promised only Steam keys or DRM-free games. Now, I'm forced to accept their new terms or pause
Their support had the nerve to tell me this:
"Thanks for reaching out to Humble Bundle Customer Support. We generally do offer Steam or DRM-Free options, but sometimes do have exceptions, such as this month. We are offering Destiny 2 on Battle.net. This is stated on our Humble Monthly FAQ:
"The monthly subscription will deliver PC games, though at times Mac and Linux compatible games will be included as well. The games will be delivered in Steam key format or DRM-Free (occasional exceptions apply).""
... As if I didn't know they've just added that part about the exceptions. Maybe they forgot there are internet archives?
Anyway, I really hope they see how wrong this is. If they insist of trampling over their customers, I WILL sue them. I know a lawyer in my country who gets all these cases about online stores, and he's so sure about the win that we won't even charge me anything beforehand, just a percentage of whatever I win as compensation.
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Your lawyer should sue them by his/her own and keep the profit for him/herself then ;)
I understand the anger. Indeed, that's a bad move to add this rule only now, and indeed, they may get some troubles for that.
Personally I don't think it's a really big deal IF it will be very rare and IF those games will be in the early unlocks. You don't want a Battle/Uplay/GOG/Playstation/Whatever game ? Then pause for a month, you have three weeks to do so, and if you really want the other games, then sell the early unlock. They'll probably learn the lesson anyway.and think twice before making a deal outside of Steam.
The biggest and ugliest issue would have been if they have added this game in the hidden games, and then added the rule afterwards. There it would have been a very, very bad move, and more than that, a true violation of customer rights.
Now we'll have to see if they'll give games outside of Steam among the hidden games, and if so, how often...
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Wow, if it had been a hidden game, it would've been terribly worse, indeed.
I wouldn't mind if they changed it only from now on, and if people who purchased an annual subscription BEFORE the change would always get a fair alternative in these cases. I paid to get bundles for 12 months in a row, not to pause when they decide to come up with exceptions to their rules. They already have my money with them, so they should deliver what they promised to. I think it's easier when you have a monthly plan, since you didn't pay ahead.
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I dunno maybe you can request you get a prototype 2 too, I mean why not? Also why you dont want other format games?
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I did. also said I'd be ok with the $5 credit on Humble Store as well. Pointed out how bad a move that was on their part...
That's when they replied what I pasted above =(
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Hey, I appreciate you giving me options.
I'm not sure where you're from, but I doubt I'd get that much from someone in Brazil. Besides, you're technically not allowed to trade your keys. Besides, I hate trading and didn't subscribe to an annual plan to trade my keys away. Besides, that doesn't change the fact that they're doing something illegal.
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I'm from the EU. I know about HB's TOS which say you are not permitted to trade the keys. But I'll stick to the simple idea that it is my key and I'll do whatever I want with it. So in your case, my advice would be to wait to see if more early unlocks are revealed, as is the tendency since IGN has taken over. And I agree that changing their TOS just to accomodate D2 is a shitty move.
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Trade the keys, It is my money I can do what I want with it PERIOD.
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I think it's fair to hope for a commercial gesture for the ones with an annual or X-months plan prior this new rule. It probably won't happen, but you might want to open a petition, or go alone and send a second ticket to the support and be threatening and convincing, asking for $5, a free month or whatever you please, or else, boom, they'll be sued. They'll probably lose and they should know it (don't expect billions though). You'll probably get noped a second time though...
Then again, personally, I feel disappointed, but that's all, and it would have been the same if I had an annual plan. I'm probably too nice and easy-going.
I see that like a book of tickets for a theater specialized in a genre, an era or a language, which then offers sometimes some other type of movies. I would be sceptical, perhaps I would try to get free pop-corn for my next movie, and I would think twice before buying a new book of tickets if those unwanted movies would become legions.
In case of "No, good Sir, no free pop-corn for you" and not even apologies, well, I'd use my remaining tickets for the movies I was promised, avoiding the new and unwanted ones (unless they actually could interest me), and once all the tickets are used, probably no new book of X tickets or even bye bye for good. But clearly I wouldn't sue them or even burn the theater like a psycho. The harm is not that high for such extreme.
Though, what I say is only due to the fact that you can pause for a month even with an annual plan (so they don't actually steal your money for an unwanted game), and my mood will change if they now decide to give plenty of games on other DRM (or way worse, other platforms), and/or if they hide them among the mystery games, or if they now decide that you can't pause when you have a X-months plan. Then, even the Dalai Lama would get a bazooka and go to IGN-Humble place.
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Well, I don't expect to win millions, no, but as a human being, I feel like it's my duty to not let them get away with doing whatever they want. I know I alone won't make them change, but I'd be doing my part to not teach them that it's worth it going against the law. That's why I was planting the seed here, maybe someone else might get motivated.
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Too much a hassle to sue them for this much but the backlash is good :D.
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Considering how much I paid for the annual subscription, I'd say "this much" is pretty meaningful. Also, from my experience is much less of a hassle to sue wrongful companies than trying to reason with them. You just give some info to your lawyer, they take care of the rest (and a chunk of however much you win hehe). Usually, show up in court once. A lot more money per hour spent than working lol
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Well the problem was first that you kind of pre ordered the subscription I would never do that, also I only buy when I like the shown game, if I don't like it problem solve no buy for me :D.
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I don't quite understand that region lock on Destiny 2, so I created my Battle.net account back when I lived in US but now I live in Egypt and looking for someone to trade with; so do i need to find someone who is trading middle east locked key or North America locked key?!!
Help would be appreciated. :)
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https://us.battle.net/account/management/
Check your country of residence stated in your battlenet account. You need to find someone selling a key in the region your country is located as per: https://support.activision.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/Destiny-2-PC-Region-Definitions#R2
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Is everyone really that suprised that it would eventually happen that the game was provided through other platform? I thought I remembered that it actually said on the humble page or in the support section. But I guess that has been modified since they started the monthly.
I did google and found an old post post in steamgifts and description of what games is included on another site.
Which games are in the Humble Monthly Bundle?
It will contains 6 games each month. All the games will be for Steam, but in the future, the bundle may include DRM-Free games or games for other platforms too.
1 hot title - Less than one year old.
1 highly-acclaimed title - Between one to two years old.
1-2 hit indie games.
1-2 hidden gems from developers.
Sources: Steamgifts, Epicbundle
I dont say I wouldnt rather have only steam keys. But I dont seem as shocked as everyone else.
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All the games will be for Steam, but in the future, the bundle may include DRM-Free games or games for other platforms too.
Humble's reply to that:
"We certainly appreciate the level of attention we've been getting from the press regarding Humble Monthly, but unfortunately some of the information being circulated is incorrect. All games provided in the Humble Monthly subscription will have Steam keys included"
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/GameDeals/comments/3n4o9m/humble_monthly_bundle/cvly6wf/
(The drm-free "humble original" added to the monthlies later was in addition to the original monthly we all signed up for; and when those are later released on Steam, Steam keys are usually added.)
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Thanks for the info. Does seem like they went with the original message now when they provided non steam game. I wonder if they forgot that they removed the "other platform" message and realised when they received backlash and in a hurry just added "(Occasional exceptions apply.)" under How can I play my games. And played it off like it was always there :)
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Not sure if I want to get this bundle. I don't have a lot of friends that play this game, and also I don't have many friends on Battlenet...
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will we get sw battlefront 2 in future as early unlock?:D
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☞ Purchase the JUNE 2018 Monthly Bundle! ☜
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Customers in China and South Korea will receive Prototype 2 as a replacement.
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