So I was browsing the trade forums here on SG and noticed that people want cs:go keys or assign cs:go keys as a value to their games for trade and what they expect in return (with extreme bias skewed in favor of the OP trader). With that said I have to reasonably assume that these people are making up random bs numbers on the value of their trading library vs their wanted library. Of course that may / may not be the case. I am curious if there is someplace that puts value to these games that these people are getting this information from - or if it is as I suspect just random bs.

Also if someone could explain to me what a cs:go key is (is this a cd-key for the retail game? / is this uh the chroma cases key things? / Other type of key that I don't even know about?) I would appreciate that as well!

8 years ago

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A CSGO key is a "Chroma cases key things", as they are very stable in price, many tend to trade with them as a currency.

8 years ago
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Ok but I just found out that there are Chroma Case Keys, Chroma 2 Case Keys, Chroma 3 Case Keys, Gamma Case Keys, Gamma 2 Case Keys... how does anyone ever conduct a trade with all this nonsense?

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They are mostly worth the same and most traders dont make a distinction between them when trading

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While there are a lot of different CSGO keys they all have more or less same value and they're all easy to sell so traders won't care what kind of key you're giving them as long as it's a CSGO key.

Basically traders don't want CSGO keys to open boxes, that's why they don't care about key types. They use them as trading currency because their value pretty much always stays the same and they're easy to sell.

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This makes no logical sense to me though - if people are able to obtain cs:go keys for free due to playing the game... then why would someone make it a 'currency'. Why not just use cash via paypal?

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What you obtain for free is the crate/case. To open a crate/case, you need a key. You buy the key from Steam. You can hold the key and trade it later or resell it in the marketplace.

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1 - that is good info to know - appreciate that.

2 - still why not use paypal cash?

3 - copper as in the metal or copper as in policemen undies?

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1 - you're welcome
2 - chargeback scams
3 - the metal

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Its easier to conduct the whole trade within the steam window and is a safer alternative as there are a number of scams possible using paypal (in case of steam gifts or other steam items, the trade is conducted simultaneously in the steam trade window while someone has to go first while using paypal, and there is the possibility of chargebacks)

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Not everyone has paypal or credit card. For example I got market unlocked on my account because a friend gifted me steam wallet card. That allowed me to make steam wallet money by selling items. I used to buy sacks of gems from market so I could then use them as trading currency to get bundle games from people when they wouldn't accept cards.

When it comes to trading gifts it's safer to trade via steam as that allows you to exchange items at the same time.

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A CS:GO key is used in counter strike to open cases, they should be stable but people can make up whatever value they want as long as someone doesnt know better

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case in point I saw someone had offered the trader OP two games for his WWE2K16 (which was just part of the humble monthly - we saw many GA's of it here) and the OP trader declined the trade because he said that WWE2K16 was worth 2 keys where as titles like door kickers was worth 0,25 keys and civilization V was worth 1 key (which was part of the trade offer that was declined based on 'key value')

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It's slightly random

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There are numerous aspects that affect the game price:

  • How popular and wanted the game is
  • How many times was it bundled and at what tier(s)
  • Personal bias (some traders don't care about values majority agrees upon but value games based on their own opinion of them)
  • Some traders overprice the games they're interested in themselves. If they can sell them at high point they profit, if not they eventually activate and play the game themselves
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The value of games in trading is usually based on their all times low price or cheapest bundle they've been in, if any. Thus it actually kinda makes sense. Also what Chibi said above

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Why does trading a game at its historical all time low make sense? That is like going in to Walmart and saying - this was on sale at Best Buy 3 weeks ago so i demand that you sell it to me for that price today.

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The value of a CSGO key is stable. But the value of games is not.

Sometimes games get bundled or go on sale. some traders will lower their asking price accordingly, other traders do not. Some traders are happy to make a small profit and want to do so quickly, others want a big score and don't mind waiting for it.

Plus there's a lot of fluctuation. For example, a few years ago there was a price glitch where Tropico 4 was available for $0.39. Some traders were happy to sell it for 1/2 a key (which is more than double what they paid for it). Other traders were asking for a key. Right now, the game is available for free, so I'd expect most traders are willing to take just about any offer for it. The game is only available for free for 2 days, and the keys expire in a week. So a month from now, traders will once again be asking 1/2 a key, or possibly a whole key for it.

On top of that, trading is an opaque market, there's no clear price available. I've had one trader ask 5 keys for a game that I got off another trader for 1 key.

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This is like trading on an non-centralized stock exchange.... insane!

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indeed

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It's much less stressful to not bother with trading on Steam. You're more or less paying the exact same price, now that they stopped cross-region trading. Before when you could trade with someone from Russia (where game prices are much lower), you could save a lot of money. But they stopped that and now it's basically not worth trading at all. I'm surprised people still do it.

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Or, at least, there's not much to be gained by using trade "stores." Trading games for games, if you can be leisurely about it, still has some nice benefits.

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Trading is mainly judging the price, for example someone trash can be others treasure.
But the main thing is the price would be according to yourself. If you think it's worth it, you'll trade but if it's too low, you can decline the trade.
Well... Csgo key is an stable item to trade so most people would prefer it compared to cards.

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You're seeing the trade "stores"--people, often with large lists of available games, who want currency in exchange (in the form of CsGo or TF2 keys). My understanding is that people like this make their money on transaction volume, and usually don't give you a very good deal, though they may beat the current store price by a few bucks.

If you want to do better you need to do business with other sorts of traders willing to swap games for games. You can look for people who's "w:" in their thread title lists something besides keys and cash, or set up your own thread and make deals with the people who post in it. Also, there's Barter.vg, where there's a system in place to partially automate trade matchmaking.This sort of thing is hit or miss. Sometimes people are quite unreasonable, or just don't want what you're offering. (That's a big advantage of a fungible currency...) But on things like bundle games of roughly comparable value you can often do well.

(If you're interested, I once opened a thread on how traders assess the value of bundle games.)

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I have made some great trades on barter already.... I was able to trade (what I consider to be) bundle trash for games that were on my wishlist (although they were someone elses bundle trash haha). I still have a lot more titles to get rid of though - looks like I still have 114 titles that are bundle trash and I would be embarrassed to list them as GA's lol

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