Hai there.

I need some help cuz I'm gettin FPS drops in games.

MY PC Specs is:
AMD Phenom X6 1100T 3,6 GHZ
AMD R9 270x Sapphire Edition
8 GB
Asus Motherboadr

I'm gettin fps drops in every game, DOTA 2, CS:GO etc, this happens every goddamn time after 1 month passes of reinstallin windows, before that every game ran fine, I've had no fps drops until yesterday night and now it starts droppin again. I'm pretty sure I don't have any viruses, shitty softwares installed etc, temperature, ram usage, cpu etc r all fine, also... sometimes my games run fine then I restart the comp and they run awful, I don't know why it keeps happenin, any1 has a suggestion of how to identify the problem? I honestly have no idea whats causing it, because everything seems fine.

Thanks!

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Have you talked to amd about the problem?

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Are you using the latest drivers?

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Of course

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Superfetch?

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Hmm I just read about it. I don't have a SSD thought

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You should check the running processes and their CPU times while playing in the first place. Seems like a procces is eating your ressources because everything was fine until recently.

Did you install any new software or updated the existing one in the last time?

AMD had some problems with the parking of CPU cores in the past, dont know if they did fix the problem, im still using FX CPU. Try to google for "cpu core parking" to get more information and try to disable the system to test if thats the cause.

You can try to analyse your GPU Clocks while playing using monitoring software like GPU-Z, maybe your cpu is underclocking itsself while running a 3D application from time to time (the Core and RAM clock should not drop while playing if you look at the sensors tab there)

Thats how i would start to investigate the Problem, feel free to provide the results and maybe more information :)

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I didn't install anything new, also I've unparked my cores. I'll give GPU-Z a try.

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Run your windows ressource monitor while playing and check the load of your other cores while playing.
Are you using several displays?
Try to run the same applications without your web browser running in backgrond (i had some trouble with flash in my browser in the past for example)
Are you using TeamSpeak 3? At least for me there is a problem i were unable to solve in the last years, if TS3 window is NOT minimized, then im getting FPS drops for some game (but my problem is consistent, wich means, it occurs every time TS3 is not minimized for the same games, so not only from time to time)

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fps drop is a CSGO problem, happens mostly on casual mode.
I don't have that problem on competitive mode or ESEA.

I think is something related to low rates of the server.

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FPS (Frames per Second) are independent from your connection to any server. The frames are getting rendered by your GPU and even you disconnect your internet cable, there should be zero impact on them. Many ppl misunderstanding the difference between FPS drop and picture stuttering caused by packet loss or other network issues. It seems like the OP do rly mean FPS drop and not any stutter

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yeah you are probably right,
but fps drop on csgo é very common, I never heard someone that fixed it, unless you change for a super computer idk,
and the fps drops to around 50fps in most of the cases.

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I also have such a probem, I usually play with around180-200fps then suddenly game goes derp after 3-4 hours of playing and at one point I have 180-200fps then for 3-4 sec fps drops under 20-30 and my game might even freeze...,then I have to restart CSGO which is a pain in the ass cuz when I try to close it it freezes for around 30sec even ctrl+alt+del doesnt help lol

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check if there is high disk usage and disable superfetch...(i have hdd and i had to disable it)

also in csgo happens sometimes fps just drops without any reason...

also check to see if anything eating cpu or somthing ...

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ccc.exe is not just keeping the icon in your taskbar. The application is managing your application dependent D3D and OpenGL settings. Without that piece of software running you are unable to overwrite any of the settings and/or to force things like tripple buffering if you are using VSync for example. So feel free NOT to use 95% of the features of your Graphical Card by killing it if you want :)

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What is your PSU? Is it under powered for your hardware?

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PSU has NOTHING to do with the problem at all. If any kind of PSU is on its limit, the Voltage will drop below the alowed mark and cause a crash. AMD drivers will probably catch the error, traw a warning and reset the GPU clock to defaults, if your OS keep running and dont crash because of that

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Do you have V-Sync enabled? For some reason my gf's PC every now and then had a sudden FPS drop on almost every game. After enabling V-sync on the games it stopped happening.

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The thing is, with V SYNC on you get input lag, dont u?

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What has VSync to do with input? Right NOTHING at all

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Oh I think it does.

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Then look for at least SOME informations how VSync works and what it does, it will change your mind ;-)

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You hould use fps_max in console instead of vsync. It messes with your aim if you have it on.

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You should use fps_max in console instead of vsync. It messes with your aim if you have it on.

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I'm not sure, Totalbiscuit said it once im pretty sure.

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Like >20ms or something

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Look HERE please

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You don't know what you are talking about. Please stop linking to your own post after you have been proven wrong.

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Where did i got proven wrong? Stop talking nonsense please

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Not as a rule, but sometimes. It depends on how the game is programmed.

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Are you rly sure you did ENABLE VSync? Because it would LOWER your fps to 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5 of your max fps if your GPU is not able to keep at at maximum (if you dont use Tripple buffering of course)

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Yes I'm sure. Games are capping at 60fps.

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Yeah, I ran Dota 2 with VSync on and nothing changed.

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VSync limits how much work the game can do during a cycle, which means less electricity is used and less heat is generated. Maybe midnightshooter's computer goes over a heat threshold and throttles down sometimes when VSync is off.

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Such systems in fact exist, but they do work in the exactly opposide direction of what you did describe here :)

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Let's use a CPU as an example, to keep it simple:

  • If a CPU gets too hot it gets damaged and possibly destroyed
  • to avoid the CPU getting damaged, manufacturers add a threshold. If, despite whatever cooling system is involved, the CPU's temperature exceeds this threshold then it automatically switches off to avoid getting damaged.
  • The CPU spontaneously switching off is a bad thing too, so to avoid this another threshold is introduced. If the CPU's temperature exceeds this, and the CPU is capable of adjusting its speed of execution, then the CPU slows itself down so that it generates less heat.

The more work a computer does, the more heat it generates. Having VSync enabled might mean your game runs at 30FPS instead of 47FPS or 60FPS instead of 84FPS. This means each second it's doing less work, therefore generating less heat. Now, maybe running at 60FPS due to VSync the computer maintains a stable temperature, but if VSync were disabled and the game ran at 84FPS (with the monitor displaying only 60 of those frames each second) then the computer would get hotter until either the CPU or the GPU decides its hot enough and slows down to (thumb-suck) half speed, causing the game to drop to 42 FPS. This is a scenario in which a game would run faster with VSync than without.

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I just checked my CPU temperature again.. without playing games, cpu temp is 60ish C and motherboard is 55 C, is that normal?

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You can check the max temperature for your CPU in the specifications of it (Should be available for download on the AMD's website) but it seems pretty high in my eyes, did you OC'd your CPU?

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I didn't OC it, going to check it thought.

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Maximum operating temperature 62°C

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Wooooooooops, you just found your issue i think ;-) Your CPU seems to overheat. The cause may be the wrong Heatsink (not good enough, wich is the case on most boxed CPU's for example), dry thermal paste between your CPU and your heatsink, or some settled dust between the lamellae of your heatsink (Counting out every overvolting issue, because you did say, that you did not overclocked it at all)

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Had this happen to my nvidia graphics cards - Games would have fps drops mainly cause it was using "integrated graphics" not my nvidia graphics card. By forcing games to use my nvidia graphics card it fixed the issues. I wonder if AMD has the same issue?

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Without doing diagnostics all I can offer are guesses, but there are good things to check:

Is your PSU still supplying enough power to your computer? Figure out how much your components need in total and test your PSU to see if it is delivering that (plus a safety margin). These things degrade when they get older, so one which is rated 600W when new isn't good for 600W anymore 5 years later.

Open up your computer and check for dust. Dust is the devil. A thick layer messes with electronics, but the more immediate problem is that dust clogging fans and heat-sinks makes components get very hot while running, often forcing them to throttle down to avoid overheating,

Microsoft Games Explorer is the devil too. This can destroy performance. Or have no effect at all if you're lucky. Either way it has no reason to exist.

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How much time passed since the last time you opened your case and cleaned it up?

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It shouldn't be a problem, I think... my pc goes crap at a random time, before that it's fine.

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Believe me, it is a problem. The dust inside your case is probably affecting your hardware, making it go at high temperatures and reducing its performance.

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Y.
It happened to me too. Clean your gear op!

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do you got something new like a headset? for some reason csgo lags if you are using some headsets and the only fix i am aware of is uninstalling the drivers
if the fps drop started before you got any kind of usb headset the reason is obviously other, most probably internet but it's easy to check - open windows command line and type for example "ping www.google.com -t" (without " of course), it will show something like this each second:

Reply from (website IP): bytes=32 time=(ping)ms TTL=57

if you notice your ping going from (for example) 70 to 100~1000 this means that your internet may be dropping and the game laggs because it's reconnecting
not sure if this helps but any info about new devices or software you installed recently may help find the problem

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Some basics for you here. You should rethink your answer or reread the OP's problem again, if you still dont see whats wrong with your comment :)

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i'm saying because my connection is weak and csgo drop a lot the fps using it (it's impossible to play deathmatch because a HUGE fps drop starts after 20~30 minutes of gameplay) but never happens when i go to my cousin's house and use his internet, it's wifi but still csgo runs a lot smoother and faster without any lag
You should rethink your answer as well :)

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You still did not get the point did you?
FPS has NOTHING to do with your network at all ;-) You are mistaking rendering problems for picture stuttering caused by network issues in combination with your game engine, wich are two completely different and independent things. Thats why my answer will stay the same and valid.

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fine, feel free to explain me why my game lags with my internet and not with my cousin's internet because there's no changes on usb devices, power source, settings, etc

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Cant you read? Because you have LAG not FPS drop my god. Two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS

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i'm telling you that my fps drops after 20~30 minutes of gameplay, NOT DISCONNECTED but fps drop, also not the first time i go to my cousin's house playing all afternoon without restarting computer, router or game and without any problem at all

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Forget it, you seems to be unable to read and dont even try to understand the difference between Lag and FPS drop, enjoy your desinformation. End of discussion

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i actually told you all the info expecting you to know why but oh well thanks anyway

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faboitas, with this link, I just proved that lag and FPS are two separate matters, and your post is not helping much, if any. Please read more.

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why does this happen then? i'm 100% clueless
maybe my cousin has a healing aura, i doubt it :V

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Lag happens with several factors.

  1. Additional number of hops needed for the computer to connect to the network/computer you selected.
  2. Bad connection to your ISP.
  3. ISP throttling your speeds, which can affect your connection if you're gaming, though that usually isn't the case.
  4. ISP having bad connection with the region you're connecting to.
  5. ISP blocking other ISP(s). That could be a cause.
  6. Bad networking hardware(e.g. routers).
  7. Bad cables.

Just based on those points I stated, there's quite a few points that can cause lag, and none of the points are related to your computer, unless you're using wireless.

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i'm not sure about ISP but i will check it, thanks :3

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Your reading comprehension is awful, Neovita. You also seem to know very little about computers and networking. Please stop spreading misinformation.

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Feel free to provide any information to prove me wrong and be quiet until that please.

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Have you finished crying?

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Have you finished talking bull**** without even try to provide any proof?
If you dont know what you are talking about, then better just be quiet and dont blame yourself next time. On the other hand feel free to do the opposite any time you want, its your decision and you made my day :D

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stop bullying each other, i have my opinion because it's happening to me and i don't know why, still if i had any reason to believe against what i said i would probably think that way so please cut it out, games like csgo and dota 2 are usually updated often and that's most probably the reason why so many people complain
basicaly stfu and click on the attached gif :3

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:D nice gif!

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i think you are in a relation ship now

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"If you dont know what you are talking about"

I am extremely proficient in the English language and I have a degree in Computer Systems and Networking. I am pretty sure I know quite a bit more than you do.

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Thats why you are trying to rely on an article here even if they dont know how the buffer switching works?

If you are telling the truth about your degree, then i feel sorry for your employer... You should think about to take some additional semesters in electrical engineering especialy in micro- and nanoelectronics and at least one in something that has to do with Man-Machine-Interaction.

I am developing PCB's for instruments working in a frequency range up to 250GHz (10^6 - 10^8 times higher comparing to things we a re talking about here) for over 5 years now (since september 2009 to be correct) and using the same buffer switching concepts the guys are trying to use as "evidence". Yes, i am using it for different purposes, but still the same concepts!

If you would know what you were talking about, you won't rely on informations found in an article on a random website, that is trying to conclude not existing things using false evidence. The whole article is based on the false facts, even their "math" is wrong from the begining on...

At that point: Feel free to think whatever you want, but Albert Einstein were right talking about humans intelligence and the size of the universe once... You made my day ;-)

P.S.: For extended whining contact your parents please :)

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I think your reading is horrible instead. All you did was accuse a person of saying FPS and lag are linked is false, and trying to argue that they are linked when in fact they are separate. It's like apples and oranges here.

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Thank you for keeping the big picture in mind while reading the crazy mess of words here :)

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I like reading the comments, mainly because it can show how informed a person is. Normally, I wouldn't reply, unless needed.
Anyway, if they still persist in their idiocy, ignore them.

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Yep, thats exactly what i am gonna do now :) Need to get back to work anyway now :) Have a nice day

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turn off winSAT?

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Tried, nothing

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I have a minor lag. It's from my goddamn energy saving HDD! All energy saving HDDs tend to make a lot of bad sectors after some time and the result is fps drops!

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Not sure about this one but maybe your VRMs are overheating. VRM or mosfet, not sure how is it called.
My motherboard has no vrm cooler on it and my q6600 is heating them up like a beast. That's why I have to cap my cpu to 80% in power saving settings.
In this window I have to set min and max cpu to 80%:
http://thewindowsclub.thewindowsclubco.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/processor-power.jpg
The symptom is was the following: I could play any game normally for some minutes, then a heavy FPS drop came in. For example in CSGO I had about 50 fps then after 3-4 mins it suddenly dropped down to 10 or 5.
I don't think it's your problem because with that specs I think you must have a good motherboard too, but it's worth a try I think. I really hope your problem will be resolved soon.

Csak most látom hogy magyar vagy, ha előbb tudom akkor nem angolul írom le :D

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Simple question is anything overclocked video card, ram or cpu? Since it is possible for a component to degrade over time running something over the factory specified limits being unaware of how long you've had the system the system you're running could be 5 years old(based on cpu) and have possible failing hardware.

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Install and update malwarebytes and run it in safe mode, run a full scan and get back to me.

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Did you even try to read the other comments here, right? How is your answer supposed to help the OP, if the overheating CPU is the cause for all issues? source

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I read what he typed in the original post and he said whenever he reinstalls windows everything is fine... but after 1 month passes he has problems. To me it sounds like malware. You gotta start somewhere. If nothing comes up in a scan then you move on to step 2. Which is why I told him to get at me.

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Ah ok, anyway, the problem is his CPU, the cooling system is not doing well its job very well. Hope he will be able to solve it by cleaning the dust inside (if there is some) and or changing his thermal paste :)

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Frame rate limiter. Run Resource Monitor in the background and play a game. If you get a stutter, alt+tab into it and see if you're getting a spike in CPU, running out of memory, disk usage, etc.

Run stress tests on your video cards and see if anything's wrong.

I know that Trackmania 2 has an issue with intermittent stuttering if your friends list is online on Steam, so set your status to offline (not offline mode on steam, just on friends) and see if that helps.

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I would recommend just two stuff for you to do, so read on.

  1. Clean your stuff inside. While it doesn't seem to be advice, I can 100% guarantee you that if your computer is dusty inside, cleaning that will reduce your inside temperatures, which will help in the long run.
  2. Replace your CPU thermal paste. This is only when you know you didn't use one when you first installed your AMD CPU, which has notoriously bad stock paste, or when your paste is hardened thus rendering it effectively useless.
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