yesterday i made public giveaways and in description i add link for invite giveaway.
result actually was bad.
was 6 hours giveaway


link

What you think why only 8 from 231 enter in private giveaways?

few giveaways, for your time and answers :)
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/de1eg/annas-quest
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/j2eLv/dead-synchronicity-tomorrow-comes-today
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/4BGE6/randals-monday

i didn't hide anything in description this time

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Do you read descriptions in giveaways?

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yes, always
sometimes
only in private/group giveaways
never
where is potato option????
i'm bot, i don't know read
all, except long

Always. No exception.

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That's nice. I'm really curious about results :)

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I read them every time. There could be some important info like some weird region restrictions or hidden gibs. :3

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In public giveaways you can hide 1000$ and no one never will find :)

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LOL Yeah, that's true. :D

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To be honest, if I read a description depends on when I visit SG. Quick point spending at the final visit of the day, usually doesn't involve lots of reading. ;)
But the more I'm interested in a game, the more likely it is that I'll read it.

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I read every single description of every giveaway I enter. It's just common courtesy.

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You should always read it. One time i saw a give away that included a game that needed a VR. I don't think anyone read that

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Yeah spells and stuff from recent bundle, but also the whole can or cannot be redeemed in germany only too.

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You always have person which just enter, they even don't care about game, will they will play etc, is game good or bad for them
they just enter to get something free

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Yes, I do. Also, thank you for giving away Daedalic Entertainment games. I already have these games and also almost all of their games, but I still wanted to thank you. ;P

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they have very good games and thanks indiegala for HH :)
buy one get four :)

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I bought them with a more expensive price in the past, but nevermind. xD

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I do, but most of the people who will answer you on forums do so as well so your poll will be biased. Why? Because most people who bother visiting forums are more or less invested in community, looking for interactions with other members and so on. These people are willing to read countless forum gibberish, so a GA description is no problem. But if you look at it realistically - how many people do visit forums? Maybe 2-3k if we are optimistic. At most a few hundreds of actual regulars. And then you have tens of thousands of people who don't really care and just want a chance for free stuff. They will mostly not read GA descriptions at all and thery are in much bigger numbers ;)

Not to mention the bots ;)

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+1

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i agree, but i'm curious about this. even people from forum enter in public giveaways

my test from yesterday is proof for everything you said.

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they do, but 1st not every forum goer will read descriptions, I just said that if someone will read description it will rather be forum goer than someone who uses GA part of the site only. And if there are many many times more people who just enter than people who are active community members and still some of active community members won't read as well it's to be expected that your public GA will not see a lot of reading/comments - because most of entrants will only see it as another freebie chance ;)

Let's make a simple mathemathicas example (purely hypothethical, not worth to get actual numbers, just example to show the point): 95% of "active" users are either botters/scripters or "zombies" who don't interact just mindlessly try to get free stuff. Almost none of them read GA descriptions. 5% are active community members. Out of these active community members 66% do read GA descriptions and 33% are active just on forums looking for more free stuff with better chances, but then not even willing to spend 5 extra seconds to read/comment. And with such circumstnces if you make a public low lvl GA and 230 people enter - 218.5 of them will be users of first category so none of them will read a thing. 3.8 users will be active members but who don't bother reading GAs. And 7.6 will be active users reading descriptions and seeing hidden GA. So almost perfect. And considering difference between forum and public GAs it quite fits the actual numbers ;)

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6 hours giveayws, bundle game. i didn't expect many entries. i was think they will be around 30 not 8.
when you put numbers like this, everything have more sense :)

Thanks for your math example :)

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well, that's indeed a strong argument

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A very good point.

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You severly underestimate number of forum users. 2-3k are the more active ones. From the SGT thread:

STATS (29/04/2016)
Number of users: 16.099
Number of users that are giveaway creators: 686

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someone writing a comment once or twice because he needed something is not even lesser active forumgoer in my eyes ;)

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Indeed, neither in my )

Still I think active ones are around 2k using somewhat wide definition of active (including ppl like Tragikos, who more or less posts twice a year ) )
All forum browser are north of 16k (and ratio of creators/users lines up pretty good with global stats)

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That's a good point, people who are used to reading the forum for fun and leave comments all the time are probably the same that reads the GA's descriptions.

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I always read them, although if I'm too tired it's possible that what I read won't register with my brain

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read the description? I don't even read the name of the game.

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Bot Alert!

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really wanted to post this, though

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But i really wanted to post this.

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game is game , who cares for names :))

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Read-the-description-bump!

I almost always read the descriptions, unless they are in a foreign languages or contain to many links to social media etc.

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I always read them provided I understand the language for GA details, hidden GA and gifs =^.^=

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No way. I don't want to be privy to someone else's propaganda :P
Just jokes, of course i do.

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propaganda can be funny is some cases :)

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Only when it involves some kind of "Great Leader"!

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What's good for the proper goose is good for the propaganda

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Very important to read them. Some people use bots and stuff I think, which I really am opposed to... I've found amazing groups, secret links, and other tidbits in giveaways. It's great to read what all they have to say anyway... some interesting reads, and a few I wish I hadn't read ... haha!

Even worse for me... people that I have to do rerolls for because they own dlc, and don't check. I make level 5+ or 6+ and still get this. It's pretty crazy! You'd think they'd know by that point, but hey... not everyone takes time out to do those sorts of things, plus there's the hide button beside the game if you wanted to remove it from your shown lists....

If somebody is giving something away for free, the least I could do is read what they have to say, if anything. At least scan over it briefly if it's short, and kind of the average sort of generic good luck, or leave a thank you if you win, but no comment necessary, etc.

That's my take. Some people who are AMAZING gifters in the community will blacklist people that do not comply with whatever they ask in the description. Won't bring up any names, but there's one in particular that kind of got me more into the spirit of reading them. Thanks to him, if he reads this! :D

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I read your comment few times and i don't know what to say. you make some good point about this.
Thanks for sharing your opinion about this "problem"

Also now i should make new poll: you do task from descriptions :)

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Well, yeah, I think it is kind of a "problem" of sorts when the numbers are that far apart, even if that is a common thing, which it seems to be. There's no real "acid test", so to speak, to see if anybody really reads them or not either, aside from burying a question in them, or hiding a link or really easy puzzle for certain people who are interested and paying attention to enter another giveaway, sort of like you were getting at in your above topic. They could always choose not to do something on purpose, I suppose, like you hint at for a new poll.

The only real positive thing I could think of: If one did decide they wanted only topic readers, they could start a small group dedicated to this and stick invites in giveaway descriptions, and then make sure to add a rule to include adding comments relating to giveaway descriptions to any giveaways that go on in the group, or if I took a more stern approach, I'd probably warn people not to enter unless they wanted to do something generic, like type in their user name, favorite color, etc. in comments or something similar, if I were looking for a bunch of people to remove from future giveaways. That is definitely not very feasible at level 0 or 1, since there would be a lot of entries there though. Without a very short time, too many comments to go through, and too big of a list to have to go through, especially if one has other things going on - it would make everything way too confusing.

I guess a lot of people just run through a daily routine, or a small bit have bots do it for them, then that ends up being the result. For some, it is an honest mistake. I have had times where I was rushed, or maybe a bit fatigued from being at the computer for a while, so in saying I read "all" topics, is more like 96 percent if I were being completely honest. If a large amount of people wanted to start blacklisting repeat offenders though, that would start to weed things out for some of us, but solving a "negative" with another negative isn't really the best alternative, in my mind - nor is it a real solution that helps everyone who is not blacklisting for whatever reasons, leaving many giveaways still open to the original "problem" group, if one wanted to consider it that. It's a tough one to answer, but it's rewarding to those that do read things, since they end up getting better odds than usual, so there is a silver lining to it in many cases!

Anyway, I am babbling on here a bit, which I tend to do at times, but those are my overall thoughts about things.
In the long run, still rewarding for those that do try to read descriptions.

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Never happened to me that i entered a dlc i had afaik but to their defense. But i dont enter dlc in most cases until its for a Game where i really really want it so i know most times even without looking that i dont own them.
It can be sometime a little confusing if the site shows you dlc you own to enter
not all dlc are easy to see that you own them afaik

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I think I had a dlc giveaway that I had to reroll 4 times, but can't seem to find it now. Not my giveaway, but this one was giving away 12 and only had 18 entered with 4 rerolls:

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Yes, I read the descriptions. I try to answer any questions that are posed also, unless they don't really apply to me.
However, I've noticed that I may sometimes glaze over the text if I am tired or bored, and not actually register what it says.

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Yep, always read them, it seems the obvious thing to do. Spending a couple seconds on reading the thoughts of someone who is generous and giving you the chance at a game, really isn't much of a sacrifice. And also that way you won't miss out on whatever potential information the author could be sharing and will be less likely to run into nasty surprises, and of course there's the odd hidden goodie here and there =)

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I always read them in case they lead to other giveaways, but I think I discovered a new way of dealing with bots thanks to you lol.

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i saw this in other giveaways, so that isn't my idea :)

6 hours isn't much time, but again only 8 from 231 is very low. i didn't expect much entries, but that was really low

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Yeah I usually read em. It is rare to see a link in them though. Or I just ain't interested in games that have such. :P

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yes and if the giveaway has images, i will open it too :3

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I always read the description and if it's interesting enough, I also reply. :D Everyone should do it.

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sometimes english is problem :)

sometimes i want to write something, but i'm not sure how to write.

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thanks, but i don't mean on that. grammar can be problem in some cases, but everyone can understand. For me is problem when i think about something on my language and when i translate that on english. in translation i lose whole point.
i know some other people which have same/similar problem

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That's actually normal. This is how it works.
Only a question of practice, practice, practice =)

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not only practice, the other day i ran into someone asking for jokes, i do know some but they are words based so that doesn't work even if I translate them :(

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Yes, but this doesn't contradict what I said ^^
You can never translate all words 1:1, so sometimes there is no good translation possible, maybe even no translation at all.

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I always read them, I find descriptions either just make someone seem like a nice person behind the giveaway, or there's information there that's important.

I used to enter every game I saw even if I didn't want it but I stopped after I won a game that I will never play and I felt bad because someone else could've won it and really enjoyed it. I didn't read descriptions back then and I really missed out, so I don't do that anymore.

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I enjoy reading descriptions so much, that I won't even enter a giveaway if there's nothing written there.
Yeah, I'm totally serious about that!

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so if you won in my giveaways and i didn't write anything i will immediately reroll
i'm kidding

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It would be interesingto known how many people enter through those autojoin scripts or do it the robot way manually (just enter everything until they run out of points), because I always thought they were a tiny minority but lately my impression is changing quite fast :(

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Bump for sometimes missing public descriptions.

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Yeah, I read them most of the times since I don't enter that many GAs anyway. Like people have said before me, they could contain important information. Though I sometimes overlook them by mistake (since many GAs don't include a description).

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yep. you never know what kind of stuff the GA creator might add in there like extra links or important info, plus... you're entering a GA for free, at least you could take 3-4 secs to read the descriptions, most times they are fairly short as well

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