Good prices?
What I wanna know is, how do 2080Ti owners feel ? xD
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They feel like buying the 3090 just like every time a new flagship appears. Did you imagine someone saved for years and used their last money to buy one? :P
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If going by the experience from my acquaintances some probably did.
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And then 4095XXX comes out and every fool who bought a 3080 cries out. Just like every single new generation and people who wait until the ultimately best deal will never have a PC in their life. And the whales who even buy those silly things just throw some more cash to have the latest and shiniest without even noticing the cost.
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The same question every time a new graphic card generation comes out.
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I wouldn't say that. I have a 1080 non Ti version. When 2080Ti was announced, I was ready to purchase it. But then I saw the performance and price and said NOPE. And I waited another 2 years for this one. Before the 1080, I had a 980, so I don't mind upgrading every generation if the performance is there. But in this situation, 2080Ti was just a very bad product that most people are going to regret buying.
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I have 0 regrets getting a 2060S to play Crush Crush with.
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I got my Asus ROG Strix OC 2080Ti with the expectation of having it for a few years at least (new complete PC build). I got it in last years Black Friday sales, it came with a Gigabyte 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Performance SSD, Asus ROG Delta Headset and CoD MW so I'm happy. Had I brought it in the last month or two I might have been a bit miffed but that wouldn't have happened with me knowing the new series were coming out.
Currently I don't see the point in me upgrading to a 30XX series card when my 2080Ti should be good enough to play everything for the next few years. The new series have some nice stats and great prices for those you are looking to upgrade currently. Unless something happens I'll more than likely wait until the 40XX series before I upgrade again.
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I can only sell so many kidneys you know!
nah, still running my regular 1080 which is fine ;)
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I have 2080 Super. And I don't really feel bad. I rather feel bad that new generation cards fail to be even good.
When I bought R9 280 it was from mid tier. And yet my PC was monster with evey game running at max setting.
When I bought RTX 2080 S, it feels like... it barely serves its purpose. I barely get 60 fps at SotTR. When I wanted to have AT LEAST stable 165. It's high tier GPU and it already fails to make the older games run smoothly. What about next 5 years? My R9 280 could run games for 5 years and was okay. Will the RTX 2080 S be able to do the same? Or not?
If I feel like buying RTX 30, I just will. I will sell 20 for lower price. There will always be someone to buy it. Time will see if those RTX 30 are worth something.
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I'll wait until proper benchmarks are done to see what the real world performance increase is.
Cries in RTX 2070
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I'm actually quite happily considering upgrading my 970 to a 3080
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Indeed. Bought most of my current components early 2012 so it's high time to upgrade. Currently researching a decent case and motherboard to go with the card. Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Surely the motherboard should depend on the desired CPU / platform.. :p
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Yes of course but I don't really have any preferences yet. It's been 8+ years since I built my last PC and I'm far from updated on new tech
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Well hit me up re whatever SSD knowledge you want to imbibe.
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Ensure you get support for PCIe gen 4, USB-C, and a 2.5Gbps Network Port. All will help future proof your solution moving forward.
DDR5 RAM will most likely be a thing in 2021.
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We have at least some actual information about the 3080 (which seems very impressive):
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Defintely sweet. I'll be upgrading from my 1080 to the 3080. Can't wait
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want to buy 2070 super or should i buy 3070 ?? my motherboard is z170 k 3 gigabyte should i change the whole build ?
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Also have a 1080 and will also upgrade to 3080. I have to think about whether I do this in my current build or go directly to a new one (which I was planning for end of the year anyway). I am still on a i7 6700K. Not a bad CPU, but it's getting older and older.
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Ya I upgraded to a 2600x before the 3xxx came out. I'll upgrade my CPU after the 4xxx series is announced and released. If they aren't to impressice I'll just get like a ryzen 7 or 9 3xxx series.
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I looked at CPU prices on the weekend, and to me it seems right now the 3900X is probably the best option. 400€ for 12 cores. Next step would be 16 cores for 700€, which doesn't seem worth it (unless you absolutely need it).
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AMD announced their event today which is next month so after the show I'll make my decision. I was thinking about getting a 3090 also but part of me feels like I don't really need to spend the extra $700. I know I would be happy and fine enough with a 3080. Plus I just bought the Valve Index complete pack and a second monitor. With my upgrade on GPU and CPU I'd really like to get my son upgrade too so he could be living the dream of high fps and great graphics. lol
Hell I might even buy a PS5 at launch so that is just more money but that is still in the air right now. Kind of depends on if I can get some of my comics sold on ebay. lol. I did just sell my PS4 Guitar Hero Live Party pack for $150. I bought it 3 years ago for $40 and played it twice. Pretty good investment.
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Yeah, same here. The 3090 seems just too expensive for what you get. The 3080 will be more than sufficient for a good while (playing at 3440*1440@100Hz). When that's not the case anymore, I can probably buy a better one for the difference in price I'd have to pay for the 3090 right now.
I am not a console player and never had any interest in them. Mostly because the framerate is usually laughable compared to PC. If that really changes now with the new consoles and the promise of 120Hz, then I might even consider a PS5 for a few games. But I want to see how games actually perform on it first.
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500$ is very big price. It's more expensive than summary of all other PC's parts include additionals.
10XX was much more realistic about cost. I think NVIDIA think that whole PC and gaming consist from only their product.
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+1. Where is a decently priced (and decently powered) 3060? Laptop here, the 120W of my 1060 are OK-ish but I won't go much higher (certainly not >150)
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Not only that, but it also rumored, that next gen Consoles prices, are going to be around $399 - $500. If these rumors are true, most gamers are going to switch to consoles instead. Also I just can't believe there are people that wasted $1200 on a RTX 2080TI lol, You could build a second PC with that money or buy some food.
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no pc gamer would buy consoles for the price dude ... its not a crysis
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I thought about it but console game costs much more than same games for pc. I guess most gamers will repeat strategy that we saw about GTX 1060. This graphic card wasn't too expensive and was nice about performance (depends on other hardware parts).
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Different memory, much faster, it's not a 1 to 1 comparison.
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Mweh why 3080 when you got 3090?
3090 vs 2080 TI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b-djsb9w2U
https://www.ozarc.games/nvidia-rtx-3090-vs-2080-ti/
https://twitter.com/yuten0x/status/1300373469843120133
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Those are based on the leaks, which were very wrong. The 3090 has 10496 cuda cores, not 5248. And the 3080 has 8704 cores. So the 3090 is almost twice faster than what was leaked.
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Oh here we go again with the CUDA cores here and there. This brings me very bad memories when I upgraded from 9600 gt with 64 CUDA cores to 336 CUDA cores GTX 460 expecting 5x performance increase in FPS and later I found out how wrong I was. :/
It also makes me remember to consoles Teraflops, later Digital Foundry confirms that some PS5 exclusives will run at 30 FPS lol.
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And the clock speed of the 9600 gt was 1625 MHz, while the GTX 460 was only 650 MHz. You shouldn't expect 5x performance. The theoretical performance increase should be 2.1x instead. In real world applications the performance jump was actually bigger than 2.1x.
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I'm finally building a new PC in the next months, I saved up a lot and also use it for work, still not sure if I want the 3080 as 10GB VRAM is a bit too little for me and I heard there might be a 20GB version, so I'll be waiting to see if a 3090 is necessary or not.
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10gb of vram too little? What do you do for work!?
(I have 1.5 and it enough for me lol)
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Video editing of high resolution footage and working in Maya/ Unreal Engine, my current 8GB are fine for now but I want this build to last for a while.
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Then save more money and get a Quadro. If you do actual serious work, buying an RTX is a waste of money compared to what you could save in time with a Quadro.
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The Quadro is overkill, the 3090 is pretty much what I need (Prosumer instead of Quadro targeting enterprises)but at more than twice the price of the 3080, I'm still unsure....even though it's a much better price compared to the RTX Titan and this is somewhat of a Titan.
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Does that also benefit from something like a Radeon VII (16 GB), or are those techs mostly CUDA-only / otherwise favour NV?
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A lot of it is CUDA accelerated but I'm still excited for the AMD GPUs and their ray tracing solution, which is super fun to work with in UE4.
But to be honest, I never really compared them too much.
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First wanna see the specs done by testers before i believe anything, for now all just rumors.
Also you gonna use a lot more power consumption.
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Also you gonna use a lot more power consumption.
Obviously yes, looking at the specs. But still, the RTX 3070 will consume a little less than the 2080 Ti being more powerful, so Ampere is a little more power efficient than Turing.
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And no 12-pin connector like leaks pointed out.
3070 is 8-pin and 3080/3090 is 2x8pin.
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nah, 3070,3080,3090 all are 12pin. 3080/3090 are vertical. 3070 is horizontal.
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Some 3090 custom models will have 3x8 pins.
An OCed 3090 will probably consume around 500 Watts :D
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So the 3070 is using the same amount of vram as a 2060 super...ok.
At least the prices aren't as bad as people were fearing (still notably worse then the 1000 series though).
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The Marbles At Night presentation looks pretty sweet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8xw10MLNCw
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That is incredible. I wish they could do something to prove it wasn't prerrenered like so many video game reveals turn out to be.
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I bought a 2070 Super a year ago, but i think i stick with it for a while.
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Will wait to see what AMD has for offer. 3080 would be nice upgrade, bit on expensive side tho.
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Nothing, sadly. At best they can reach something the lines between the currently non-existing 3060 and the 3070. However, the price range and the price/performance ratio may still earn them something in the low-mid segment, where they are currently better anyway.
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It can't be nothing. Nvidia must have a reason for dropping prices like this, like some aspect of Big Navi they're afraid of.
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The reason is Nvidia itself. They overpriced the 2000 line so much, it sold terribly, even their CEO admitted it. The 1000 series owners had little to no incentive to switch, ray tracing was not worth it. This is why they compared the 3000 line so much to the 900 and 1000 lines. They didn't go with their unnecessary +100 USD founder's tax this time and kept the same MSRP to offer a significant performance boost; enough to create an urge in the current owners to switch.
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The 1000 series owners had little to no incentive to switch
It's virtually never super useful to upgrade to the next GPU generation. 670 to 770? 13% faster. Since then it's usually around 40% (-> 970, 1070, 2070 as example). Yes, sure, they want 970 and 1060 owners to upgrade – but the pressure to do so immediately (even trying to sell things like RTX IO a year before it's even out), at a cheap-looking price, sounds like they're worried about said customers going with someone else's product, and I doubt it's Intel they're afraid of.
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Nah, I think I'll skip this generation and stick with my 2070 for now, should be enough for comfortable 1080p gaming for a couple more years (especially considering that I'll probably need to change basically everything else to upgrade GPU). Yes, it's totally a money issue. I'm going back to school this year, so I've kinda got other financial priorities right now.
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I'll wait for the Super and save hundreds over the more expensive, inferior model.
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I'm definitely in the market for a new GPU in the next year since my RX 480 isn't the most power efficient (especially when using more than one output). However, I'm leaning more towards a 3060 and AMDs equivalent myself. Right now, thanks to DLSS, im personally more interested in Nvidia this time around if it now actually works in every game as rumors suggested. I'm not sure I'd have much use of a 3070 or even higher given that I'm mostly playing older titles these days.
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wow, and here i'm trying to find some good VGA to build. still looking, this might be a good idea
i hope it's getting better (in price)
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I might finally upgrade my GTX 1080 Ti - in retrospect that was great value. I've a 4K monitor but rarely game at that resolution as the experience is a bit inconsistent. Eyeing up that 3080 ...
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RTX 3070, faster than 2080 Ti ($1200) for the price of the 2070 Super.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 Series | Official Launch Event:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKx-eMAVK70
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16057/nvidia-announces-the-geforce-rtx-30-series-ampere-for-gaming-starting-with-rtx-3080-rtx-3090
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