Was a good run while it lasted. This is the End of an Era on Steam. GL to ya all
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In Germany some Games are region locked too, caused by the law.If you want to play them without using a VPN you have to set a shortcut and start the game everytime through this shortcut, so Steam wont ask for your region anymore...
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If I'm not mistaken that the Law that requeres to provide DRP -free games. Meaning you bought it it's your(altho tey are in your steam library) . The only reson to buy those on steam is if your a big fun of pre-order and early access. Otherwise you are more that welcome to use GOG.
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Is that because of German law? If that's the case then it's not Steam's fault.
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it's illegal to sell uncensored / banned games in germany, but it's not illegal for german to buy them / trade for them in other sources in other countres, which is what a lot of germans used to do. It's not Steam's fault that Germany has bullshit legislation. It's Steam's fault that they are blocking legal possibilities to get uncensored versions.
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Once again, I have nothing against region locking, but for fuck sake adjust the prices to the PPP of each region/country. Why does central Europe have to effectively pay 3-4 times more than Americans or western Europeans?
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Western Europeans pay the exact same as central Europe for almost every game, what are you talking about?
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Exactly. And the same price as eastern europe. Which is not fair. 60€ for some german guy is nothing, but it's waaaay too much for some others.
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Hi fellow sheep, take a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage
Wouldn't it be better and more fair to lock all regions and make the prices more affordable in the poorer part of Europe?
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SEA regions had to suffer for years by paying US Prices. So good luck, I hope those people from poorer part of Europe would get cheaper ones.
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RIP trading of all sorts.
Haven't even idled in so long because it's not worth the effort and there's nothing I can buy for cheap anymore because there aren't any traders selling games I want for cheap anymore.
sadface.
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You know you can actually sell the cards and buy the game FROM YOURSELF FROM THE STEAM STORE, right?
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What I'm saying is that I used to idle for TF2 items and buy games I wanted from traders.
It's not worth doing either now, because trading is now just as expensive, if not more so, than buying stuff from the store with actual money.
So RIP trading.
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You know that they screwed up big time this way,right? If somebody from russian for example buys a game and activates it there and then goes to europe he can't play it. They screwed up.
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Already reaped the benefit from price cut. Region lock is deserved.
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Lock for running after an already applied lock for cross-region trading? No, THIS is definitely over the top and will fight against this retardism with passion. I understand when morons like Ubisoft implement every possible way of locking and nerfing the game, but Valve (!) doing this for all (!) the games on Steam and even retroactively (!)? No, Gabe. Just no.
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What? I don't see retroactive lock everywhere so far?
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Okay, not retroactively for everything, possibly only for cross-region trade locked gifts. Though it seems like it was changed (for now) to the following:
no lock on running is applied if you activate the region-restricted gift in the country of purchase. But lock on running is applied if you activate it in any other country, including other countries in the region the gift is locked for. If that's how it is right now, it is still very much retarded. -_-
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And now part about "can only play" is removed.
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I think Steam needs to create their own money for all the countries and that money have diferents prices in all regions, that would solve the problem... for example
1 USD -> 1000 Steam coins
64 rubles -> 1000 Steam coins
0,95 EUR -> 1000 Steam coins
Or something like this...
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Of course, but that way they would earn a lot less. They enjoy this fragmented market with various currencies, so they can make people overpay everywhere.
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God bless Nuuvem for unrestricted ROW keys. I don't see myself living out of the country in the near future, but it sucks for whoever got affected by this.
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Looks like Valve removed the play lock notification from the region-restricted gifts.
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Maybe because this notification was made by mistake and there was no play lock except games with "onlyallowrunincountries" subscriptions.
I don't get why people started to panic here without any reliable proofs.
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There was actually evidence of people being unable to launch region-restricted games outside of region of purchase: http://i.imgur.com/fSPEqfT.jpg
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Actually this screenshot proofs nothing. User could activate Toki Tori with key that had "onlyallowrunincountries" restrictions from the beginning.
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Toki Tori CD keys have no region restriction tags, once activated the game is supposed to be able to work anywhere in the world.
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Anyway we need more proofs and info. We have no clue how he got this game (key).
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I have a few restricted gifts from South America bought last December and when I go to add them they show a PLAY restriction notice.
http://i.imgur.com/ANRJTRI.png
The Sub ID doesn't have restrictions: https://steamdb.info/sub/28233/
It's the same Sub ID sold worldwide on Steam.
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Did you try to run this game in the region other than one where game was bought?
As I said play lock notification could be added by mistake (because it could be meant only for "onlyallowrunincountries" subscriptions). And now it's removed.
Yesterday I got The Settlers 7: Paths to a Kingdom - Gold Edition from russian steamstore, it sits in my inventory and I don't see any notifications about play lock.
I see only notification about countries the game can be redeemed.
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Send it to yourself as a gift and see if it says it then, a mate of mine has medieval engineers and it only appears then
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No, SA is my region. Haven't tried other. Might use a VPN from a region that could not receive this gift and check if the game runs or not.
There is no play lock mentioned when the gift is visualized, only the redeem lock is mentioned. But when the gift is to be redeemed it shows the redeem and play restrictions like in the screenshot I posted.
The notice says that I can only play the game within the region it was played. So this means that from now on every single game I purchase in my region (SA) will be region locked? That would suck...
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I see no any notifications about play lock even when I'm gonna add Settlers 7 in my library. There is only notification about countries the game can be redeemed.
http://i.imgur.com/rD0HauA.jpg
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Well, I've read that: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1266-QFZC-2141
"Can I use a proxy, VPN or disguise my location to redeem a region restricted Steam Gift?
No, using a proxy or VPN to disguise your location is strictly against the Steam Terms of Service and may result in restrictions on your Steam account. If you attempt to redeem a region restricted game and your location is inconsistent with your past Steam activity, a warning will appear as shown below:"
As I understood you get play lock if you try to activate gift or key that was bought in other region. For example, if you leave in USA buying games via Steam here and try to activate gift from Russia, CIS-countries or South America using VPN then you get notification about play lock on that game.
If you activate gift that was bought in the same region where you live and buy games you won't get play lock except games that have "onlyallowrunincountries" subscription.
So when you travel to another country you can still play games if you bought and activated them in the same region where your steam account was registered. Stop panic.
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For clarification: are games purchased from Steam Store, not Steam gifts, affected? All the news articles talking about it seem to stress the word gifts - can this be taken to imply that games that are not bought as gifts are immune and you can play those in other countries?
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i'm still waiting for cheaper prices on my region locked games.
still paying US prices and region locked to south america...
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So can we now have actual cheaper games instead of being forced to pay too much?
EU needs more regions than just 2 and drastic price reductions.
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If some of you are stuck with locked RU/CIS gifts which you want to get rid of - http://www.steamgifts.com/trade/B3r0g/want-rucis-locked-games-have-keys-paypal-webmoney
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Well, this is retarded. I see people saying it's good, fair, whatever, maybe to them that live in a nice location with cool servers and not just a bunch of douchebags playing. I'm from Brazil and playing on south american servers can be a pain in the ass. Fuck restrictions.
http://www.pcgamer.com/new-regional-restrictions-on-steam-gifts-come-to-light/
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Not sure if mentioned but how will this affect Nuuvem (and those who bought Injustice and Lego games there) as well as those who pretend to be in the US to buy from Amazon?
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But the prices are not lower so for many people the only way to buy games was to buy them from cheaper regions. Now majority of them will start to pirate again. Simple as that. Of course no one cares.
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I'm against double standards. Poor countries should pay less.
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I have dozen of games I bought from Russians because they were cheap. I would never buy them even for $5, but since they were cheaper than that I went "screw this, it's cheap, if I won't like it I won't cry myself to sleep".
Guess how many random games I bought in last 3 months and how many money developers got from me?
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Yes, that's what I do now. And now devs get $0 of my money, because I decide I'm not interested into paying $5 for their games.
Do I lose anything? Nope, I have enough games, without this distraction I can focus on my backlog. Do devs lose something? Well, I'm guessing there's $20-30 I didn't spend on random games in last few months, so that's what they lost.
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Ok ok we understand you rather get nothing than something.
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I activated 2 games today on a new account one JUST purchased from russia, another purchased 3 weeks ago.
Both activated fine with vpn, and play without using vpn at all. (one of which 100% had the will no play out of russia message)
So not sure what has happened. Has it been reset back to normal?
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So anyone tested to activate a DLC for example PD2 DLC?
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There's too much tl;dr, so I'll just ask here.
I'll move to Japan soon and what if I want to gift a friend that is from Brazil? (my actual country)
I have access to his account, will I be able to buy it for him without getting risky of a ban? Or it also counts like a VPN even if he's not using it?
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Afaik Japan is not region restricted, so you may send him gifts bought in Japan and he will be able to activate it.
On the other hand you won't be able to activate gifts he send you. Also it's plausible that some(many?) of your games become unplayable when you move, because you bought them in region restricted country and move to ROW country.
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Valve is shooting themselves imho. Sooner or later this will boil down to antitrust measures.
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Well, a friend just show me this
http://i.imgur.com/0ta0BJe.png
Looks like now every game will be regional locked not even to activate but to play also
Update from reddit: http://i.imgur.com/fSPEqfT.jpg
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