You've got a point there.
Whitelisting is a choice for whom you want to give special stuff to.
Blacklisting can feel way more malicious since a person deliberately had to say "You specifically should never have access to my giveaways".
Personally, doesn't matter to me. I don't blacklist and I don't seek out whitelists or anything. But it's not new to see drama stem solely from someone blacklisting another.
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In most cases, blacklisting is more a way to say "I specifically want to never have access to your giveaways".
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Hmm, if you say so. Not sure why people used to blacklist then. The two-way addition is a relatively new one. Blacklisting was just as common before. I mean, I'm not saying that people don't do it for that reason. But I highly doubt people go out of their way to have less giveaways.
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I never said they understand what they doing) Two-way blacklists are there, but people seem to forget about it)
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I have to stop you there, because the 2-way BL was introduced to right a wrong and curb a lot of BL-drama that was going on.
How BL-ing used to work was that if I blacklisted someone, they could not enter my giveaways as they could not see them. They could therefore not comment or have any interaction with me. I however, could still enter theirs, comment, interact all I wanted to, and that was considered unfair by many.
There was also a lot of drama from people using this unfairness to their advantage by shitposting, trolling, and using generally bad commenting practices - and then immediately BL-ing their ''adversaries'' to not having to deal with the fallout from being a [insert favourite genital here].
The dual BL was then introduced, and it has cleaned up the many BL-drama discussion threads, it's made people think twice before BL:ing as it will make you lose access to the BL:d persons GA, and it makes people (at times, not always) think a little more about how they comment to each other as escalating word wars usually have the effect of more than one person being/doing blacklisting - people around here tend to ''listen in'' and choose a side.
Is the system absolutely perfect to everyone's complete satisfaction? Probably not.
But I'll argue any day that for the vast majority it's made SG a much better, cleaner, and calmer site.
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Hey, I never said mutual BL is bad. No need to persuade me.
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Well. do not know.
However, those who "provide a topic on something that people in other countries don't know" will be preferred.
I have heard that others say that "Won: Send" prefers to be nearly equal.
If there are a few comments, you will feel that you can communicate and be trusted.
For example, if you are a Turkish merchant, you may "talk with tea" in the store to speak more slowly?(o'ω')🍵☕('Θ'o)
I feel that there is an element similar to that.
The easy thing is to say "Thank you firmly."
There are a lot of people who do "appropriate response" when one does not say even if we win.
I hope you have a great day.d(・Θ・。)
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The white list says that you definitely will not give the game to bots.
The blacklist says that you have already given the game to one of the bots and you do not want him to win your game again.
I add to the white list of people who gave a lot to the community, but won little.
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A huge number of giveaways, which entered the user.
For example, an account is 3 months old, and it has already entered 10,000 hands.
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Ok, so hypothetically, what if the person using the bot plays the games that he wins, does it make the bot account bad?
Like would i really be able to judge that the account was legitimate just bases on the amount of giveaways they enter?
I know, a lot of us dont always get around to playing our wins, regardless of how many we win. :)
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You can see the bot script for SG, to better understand who is who.
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Using a bot is against the site's guidelines:
- Scripts should not be used to automatically enter into giveaways. This includes scripts that enter multiple giveaways at once, or scripts that enter giveaways while you are away.
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So, then you're saying you guys aren't moderating things very well? :)
i already know that bots are not supposed to be used, but by ShamanSzone's assumptions, I get a LOT of bot-entered winners. And so by the same token, I CAN'T assume they are [bot accounts], if you guys are doing your job.
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Welcome to SG! I hope you really enjoy it here!
How people whitelist varies from person to person and time to time. A WL serves as both a reminder (Oh, yeah, I liked this person!--Even more so if you have ESGST turned on and WL'd people tagged or highlghted) and as an elite group. As such, I cannot tell you all the reasons people have, but I can tell you of some.
Reasons that I can find sufficient to WL (especially if more than one of them is true) include the following:
I hope this list is of some help to you!
Thank you very much for your generosity, even though I am not entering this one (I already own it).
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You're quite welcome! I forgot to add that the chances of my WL someone are higher if more than one of those things is true, but I'm at times going to WL for only one of those reasons.
I'm really glad that you are enjoying it here, and hope your experience remains good!
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For some reasons I don’t often do public gibs
So I’d whitelist below SGers cuz I hope they could have chance to win sth from me 🍀
P.S. I have a 900+ whitelist and I update the list frequently, so I never ask for blue heart or promise to do whitelist for whitelist 🎃
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I updated the list every now and then
There’re quite a lot SG tools to help you manage :3
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Why would that be necessary? I don't judge everyone after all. But if some people leave a remarkably good or bad impression, you naturally decide if you like them or not. For most people it requires some time, with some few it happens pretty much instantly.
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• Level 5+. (Not achieved mainly by 1$ bundles)
• Lots of public / open groups GA's. (Recent too)
• Don't have too many region restricted GA's. (In %)
• Have and maintain a ratio greater than 1.337 1.10 (Real CV)
• Average GA length, 24 hrs or more. (One world =/= one time zone)
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All those from whom I have won a game, except for errors or omissions, are on my white list.
Also those that when I have opened a thread have participated in a useful way or have been kind or funny
Also those who have done the above in other people's threads.
Finally, some people who have said something or done something worth mentioning, in my twisted scale of values. (I basically add them because XDDDDDD)
As my list is short, it is my wish that it be so, when it reaches 70 people I erase those people who do not remember who they are or who I think I have already fulfilled "my obligation" to give them the opportunity to earn something. Some I delete immediately after winning something of mine.
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I whitelist if someone wins a game and says thank you, or if I win a game from them (I always say thank you).
I will usually save my nicer giveaways for whitelist only. That way I know those special gems will be going to someone who will appreciate them.
I only blacklist people who don't redeem games they've won.
“It is only with gratitude that life becomes rich.”
— Deitrich Bonheiffer
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I tend to focus on certain factors whether they are active on the forums and promote/contribute to the community in a positive way, stats/ratio/games given to some extent, whether they are helpful on the forums especially when people ask for/need help, if they're funny although this can be hard to read sometimes etc.
Its your whitelist so you can put who you want on it for any reason you wish.
Looking at the people responding to your thread, I am pretty sure even without checking them that most are already on it.
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I have a long list of whitelisted people, which were chosen with the following idea in mind - "If you're an active, friendly member of this community, I've most likely whitelisted you". These days though, I don't update the list anymore, mainly because of my lack of SG activity outside of obligatory ratio-based group giveaways. I even ended up having some whitelisted people blacklist me, still not sure why, and I personally feel no bitterness against them (although I have to admit it kinda made me sad when I realized it), so I never removed them from my whitelist. :D
As for blacklists, I like to believe I use it "wisely" only towards people who are exceedingly rude, racist/discriminatory and disrespectful, or people who willingly break the website rules (while fully aware that what they are doing is wrong). In general, you have to do something so damn bad I wouldn't feel comfortable giving you something if you happened to win my giveaway. That's quite the exploit, especially when my blacklist counts 27 users (opposed to my 276 whitelisted). None of these are active users nowadays and most are banned now.
My preferences aside, whitelisting/blacklisting is a choice entirely up to the user. Some people will blacklist you for your ratio, opinion, attitude, putting pineapple on pizza, or liking k-pop (I don't blame them... just kidding, just kidding!). They'll whitelist you for being nice, funny, entertaining, having been whitelisted, ratio, giveaways, or even putting pineapple on your pizza (ALRIGHT WHO'S THE MONSTER??).
Point is... don't let others tell you how, where and when to use your ability to whitelist/blacklist. The whitelist feature is an especially useful tool to use when you need to create giveaways for a "group", without having to invite everyone to a Steam group. The blacklist could be even used practically as part of an event etc, to prevent "eliminated" users from entering the giveaways, etc. These two can be used in many ways, and how you decide to use them is up to you.
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putting pineapple on pizza, or liking k-pop
Pineapple on pizza was a conversation topic a few weeks back if I'm not wrong =D
I'm not looking for how to use it actually, I'm just curious to see how others have chosen to use theirs! =) Everyone has a different way to do it, so it's very interesting to me.
Thanks for your lengthy response =)
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Good to see you around, still, even if you're less active these days. It is always nice to recognize a friendly username.
Is this pineapple fresh or cooked? Some folks are allergic to fresh pineapple. 🤔
Thank you for the excellent points, especially the fourth paragraph. I learned something today (the bit about temporarily using the BL to eliminate folks from the next stage of a contest).
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Yeah, I lurk on a daily basis... just mostly silently.
Wait, people make pineapple pizza with raw pineapple?
Regarding using blacklists as a "tool", you do have to keep in mind though that you'll have to suffer the consequences of doing so through two-way blacklists, which also has a cooldown up to a week after you remove the user from the blacklist. It shouldn't be a major drawback, but still worth keeping in mind.
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Ah. :D
I don't know if they do, but as one where some "gently cooked" veggies are still too raw for me, I imagine there might be someone, somewhere who finds the pineapple on a pizza to be to raw.
Hmm. Yes. That is definitely a good point to keep in mind. Thanks again!
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Not that I know of, no.
But it could be for a similar reason now that you mention it, although I have reason to believe it might be otherwise. Eh, who knows?
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I am not really active anymore but when i used to use whitelist it's for people whom i enjoyed interacting with and i know they will care about the game if they would win. Because mostly i had created the games i have enjoyed or well recieved reviews for my whitelist.
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i mostly whitelis activet ppl with a good ratio and lots of public giveaways and if they are active in forums.
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i can add a person to my BL/WL on a whim(ratio after winning from me, having a conversation with them, reading their comments, seeing threads they open, heck even their profile picture).
guess what, that's the same for everyone.
if it matters to you, you will get BL for opening threads, you will get BL for making GA's, you will get BL for breathing, and you will get WL for the same reasons, just be a good person, try to help the community, and sooner or later you will get your WL's in addition.
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as a matter of fact, there are various reasons for getting a BL, you setting SGTools that didn't allow entry, you commenting in the description of the GA, you setting a level too high, you saying that it's a bundle so if they own 2/3 of the items they are not allowed to enter, heck even someone NOT winning the GA after participating can BL you.
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heck even someone NOT winning the GA after participating can BL you.
I'm impressed with that, like, "Is that even possible!?"
Well, I think BL it's a loss. You only block a possibility if winning something. The other GA participants will be more happy with less competition, that's for sure.
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I'm trying to add to my whitelist people who, in my opinion, make SG a better place.
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I dont really bother with whitelist giveaways so I only have 49. Out of those people they are typically people I've talked to or respect. The rest would be people that have whitelisted me that I think deserve a whitelist back. I wouldn't personally do a wl thread since damn do those people get so many comments but hey it certainly gets all the people together
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So if someone blacklists you does that mean they also can't enter giveaways made by the person they blacklisted ?
Coz that would be uncool
,someone who takes things so seriously that they don't want you entering their giveaways but they can still enter yours.
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I tend to whitelist anyone that participated in any of my karaoke threads, other then that I use https://www.steamgifts.com/account/steam/friends as people on my steam friends list are a good place to start
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I'd like a tit-4-tat button :)
Wouldn't have to show any names.
Just a pop-up notification ,"You have just been blacklisted ,do you wish to blacklist back ?" :)
Why not ? Makes sense to me ,if you have to take a site down this blacklisting road.
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after User1 blacklists User2:
User2 can't enter giveaways from User1
User1 can't enter giveaways from User2
blacklisting is mutual
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Ah ok, thanks .
Shame it's allowed to exist at all ,imho.
It just promotes the worst of human behaviour and draws us all in to responding in a similar way.
If you wanna raffle a game key ,just do it .
Anything else should be left to the site admin.
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Oh found someone on my blacklist who has me blacklisted. Sure its mutual if only 1 does the bl but all they need to do is unblacklist and bam they can enter again after a week or straight away im assuming if you did it. Considering they bl you, all this time you mightve never known and suddenly they get to enter your stuff again when you never could before
Never came across someone whos bl me even during all those community trains but it would make the things quicker by like a couple of seconds. Everyone loves shortcuts
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I can't remember why or when i did the one's i did.
I think it was a while back when i first noticed certain members where getting busy with their blacklisting after
some conversation i was involved in ,which is just pathetic.
Like i said ,the worst of human behaviour .
I hate the fact that i allowed myself to be drawn into it but it does seem to be a common thing here .
I wasn't aware of of some of the more detailed aspects of this site when i first joined.
Thought it was nothing more than an open giveaway site ,sadly there also seems to be stuff going on that ultimately i wouldn't want to be a part of.
I think it's just when these conversations start up once in a blue moon that the normal folk get reminded of the cloak and dagger stuff :) .
It just leaves a bad taste all round .
Anyway ,i do my best to ignore all that and enjoy the nice bits.
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Yeah blacklisting isnt the greatest. Its why i have cracked down and removed a bunch which i thought didnt really deserve to be on it. So now I only bl people who won a game multiple times or didnt activate a win. I do totally get the whole overall effect with this. I know I always have it in my mind like oh will i come across another person whos broken the rules or whatever else goes on around here. When these kind of posts pop up though its like yep now everyone else is to. Frankly when I actually read this post I just paid attention to the whitelist side of it since there's no mention of bl anywhere. That all came from even the 1st comment. You cant have 1 without the other
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Yeh i think i'll do the same and think very carefully before doing something like that in the future.
Really it should only be for extreme cases like confirmed bots or someone being really very nasty ,which rarely happens.
Not for a conversational disagreement ,it's just silly.
But really ,even in those cases it should be ADMIN/MODS who take care of stuff like that with site bans.
I used to do it by mistake when trying to click on the steam profile button :)
Do you have to undo each individually or is there a one-click option to clear blacklisted ?
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Oh ive blacklisted people a plenty when clicking on other stuff. Would aleays happen when i needed to go on a giveaway and then i cant see it because of the timer.
For an overall clear i cant confirm if there is or not. There might be an add on that lets you do it but ive never gone searching to see if there is or not
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Aside from "whitelist recruitment" threads, I'm curious to see how do people decide to add others on their whitelist.
Since I'm new, I don't have that many people on mine. So far I've added some people I've interacted with, and some people who posted things that helped me/I found valuable.
How do you decide to add people to your whitelist?
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