How do you react to people creating giveaways here for games which aren't Steam redeemable, regifting or doesn't match the game on the giveaway itself because they didn't fnd it on the list?
about regifting, (not giving to a friend, specifically about regifting) independently of everything, it's a matter of principle, of moral integrity, only a corrupt soul would consider doing that, and only a very stupid one would do it in the same place they got it from.
The other examples you give are obviously excusable and inoffensive, however, in order to maintain order and keep them from happening, some light "punishment" is ok and harmless.
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I don't see why someone would enter a giveaway for a game they don't intend to redeem themselves.
If you don't intend to activate the game if you win... why even enter at all.. Just seems foolish, and makes the person look really greedy to say the least.. Even if they go back and try to give the game away, they never should have entered anyway.
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It's pure greed.
Like filling up your plate at a buffet even though you know you won't eat it all.
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We're at least by-products of some love, so lemme add more lvl 1+ latin love!
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I already own this one, but we can't have enough love. So thanks! :D
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I agree. I see this happening too often where new member make mistakes and people jump all over them, black list them, and talk down to them like they are a horrible person. A lot of times this isn't a person intentionally breaking the rules, but just someone new that doesn't know any better. If I have the time, I usually try and explain the rules and help them. It usually happens with regifting and sometimes the person will remove the giveaway and activate the game on their account once they understand the rules.
The real problem is when you try to explain the rules to someone who doesn't speak english, but I have had success using google translate.
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That was a very kind message. People like you helped me when I broke the rules and made me feel at home, that's why I'm still here. Love all the way!
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Oh I'm part of that special love....
Senpai has noticed me!
Thank you for the GA's! :D
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I usually tend to try to explain to people what they are doing wrong, with a link to the FAQ (lucky doesn't happen too often), but if they then still refuse to read it or say stuff like "I didn't know then and I'm not going to edit it," then they kind of piss me off. I tend to just ignore them then (thank god I have good self control), but sometimes I'm really tempted to write a shit reaction...
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I don't see the problem. There will always be aggressive people everywhere. They however are few and far between. However, there much more people who are simply to lazy to read the faq or ask questions. Language isn't a barrier either. If you can comprehend enough to enter GAs then surely you can read and /or translate the faq? Unless you simply can't be bothered to make the effort.
And no, some people don't go through life trying to trick their way through or get as much stuff as possible.
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Well, there are somethings I agree with you, though others not.
Anyway, I will tell you my experiences and thoughts. Please bare in mind that I'm not a native English speaker.
I feel SG community is full of kind persons except small percentage who I don't care much, because they have always existed in any society. I have seen good explain more than aggressive wrath. I admire some people who always explain and direct FAQ with great patient, because I'm a type of strict and silent rule-lawyer.
Since I've read guidelines and FAQ before creating GA and entering, I can't understand rule-breakers by heart, but I knew they exist by brain. Also I know people can make mistakes from time to time not intentionally.
I think trade attempt with wins is worse than re-gifting. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw them for the first time after massive featured giveaways of Apollo4x. Like this
I thought blacklisting and reporting is not solution after checking my winners, whitelist and a small group with SGTools last month, there were too many. There were persons gifting free Microids games, too.
Then, I've decided to teach them. If they make excuses that they didn't know the rules in English, I would put translated ones in front of their noses. (This is one of my bad habits, 'cause I make a living by teaching. lol)
So I translated Guidelines and FAQ of SG 2.0 into my mother tongue, collected and organized other useful documents in Korean, wrote a few guides about SGTools and becoming a clean user. I helped a handful of people to clean their records. Some people listened to me and tried to learn the rules and clean themselves, of course others ignored. They simply didn't care.
I don't know how long I can tolerate rule-breakers who don't try to learn and clean. When my patience is dried up, maybe I should ignore them and just move on without further efforts.
If you're interested, you can see the links of my documents on my Steam profile.
And I like your flowchart. :)
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Making an innocent mistake is fine. I'd just politely point out the hiccup so they can stop the embarrassment / issue before it occurs.
Regifting however is quite intentional, and an abuse of a system/community that exists on the charity of others, and will get you a HULK SPANK
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I am a teacher working on a MS in Early Childhood Development. I can confirm that exclamations like "Hot damn, you are dumber than a dog turd" promote healthy development. It's just science.
Thank you for that laugh though, seriously. I could imagine trying that line out sometime.
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It's pretty usual to see new bundles with non-Steam games and a few moments later you see a lot of giveaways for these games here as if they were for Steam, or people who wing games and end up regifting them, then people already start whinning "Geez, another idiot! Read the ****ing FAQ, you @sshole!" or "You can't give this game here, delete it now!!!".
Dude, what if you're a 4 years old kid, first time in a school, the teacher asks you "what's the capital of United States?" and the kid answers "New York" and the teacher replies "Hot damn! You're the dumbest b*tch I've even seen, do me a favor and die already!", just like the kid there are new people on this site who doesn't know jack squat and upon this kind of reaction they're disoriented, the fact that the users who tried to make a giveway for a non-Steam game or regifting or giving away the wrong game already created about 20 giveaways, this doesn't mean they know 100% how this site works, and don't come at me with "they should just read the rules" because I bet you didn't read the rules yourself until you got in trouble, and I know it because it already happened to me. I thought I could win a game and give to a friend... BOOM! Suspension! Luckily I still got the won games on my inventory when I got my account suspended, so I activated them, opened a support ticket mentioning I've activated them, the moderation verified and unsuspended me, then I read the FAQs properly.
So please, do have a deep breath before you start to slam your keyboard with hatred, instead try to help a fellow user who's just being kind to give a game for free (the giveaway may be invalid, but it's the intention that counts, right?). Say what they're doing is against the rules but also tell what they're doing wrong. Inform they they can't give that game away but also that show them how to proceed. If you don't want to help then don't say anything at all.
For the people who already help these new folks: you're doing a good job, and me along with many other user appreciate this.
For the people who ignore the giveaway: no one will force you to help, you're may not be practicing good deeds, but also isn't practicing evil deeds.
For the people who acts with aggression: treat people how you want to be treated, you already were in their position before.
TL;DR
Please be more gentle towards people who are giving games for free, you can tell them they're breaking the rules without rage and can still help them. :)
Here's a fluxogram for giveaways I've just made, so you can post it in these cases instead of insulting the giver, I forgot to iregifting factor, but I'm already updating the chart. If you find any flaws or something to add to it just tell me and I'll fix it. Thank you for your attention, and have a nice day! :D
By the way, I don't have much money for a nice promotional giveaway, but here's a little bundled love train for every user and a special love for my fellow south americans. ♥
EDIT: Guys, you're giving me a lot to read, but I'm not complaining, I like that! It's just that would take an hell of a time to read them all and still have things to do (cough cough my backlog won't play by itself). But I wanted to make something clear as I see most of you are replying the same topic. Just as sigma3 said:
"and among those poor clueless bastards, there's a good deal of repeat offenders... I just love watching them burn"This is precisely my reaction! I'm not asking you to forgive every infractor, I'm asking you if you could please try to discern new users (AKA first-time infractors) from repeat offenders (AKA KILL IT WITH FIRE!), if you meet a newbie be patient to them, and if not possible just ignore. All this stuff is about some (SOME, not all) users going berserk on new users unaware of their first rule breaking, and ONLY IF this one makes another mistake then we should tag him "repeat offender" and treat this as the rest. Passing this message now maybe afterwards then we can make these new people read the f@cking FAQ or maybe even get rid once and for all this scourge who serial regifts! Make SteamGifts great again!
I'll still keep reading, I do believe I even accidentally skipped some people on the reading spree, but I'd like to read everyone's opinion on this. So please, do keep 'em coming. ;)
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