Good evening ladies and gentlemen,

I was writting an essay and found myself something curious about one of my classes, its an experiment made by the famous film-maker Lev Kuleshov. I would like you guys to check it out if you want without investigating about it at first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gGl3LJ7vHc Comment what you felt and such.

P.S. I love sidescrolling.

EDIT: Thank you very much gentlemen for your responses, and thank you DavidSarif since it was something I might have skipped in mentioning. All in all, its something worth thinking about in relation to modern movie audiences.

...Oh that's right, good luck in the giveaway.

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this was a very weird video

11 years ago
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Indeed it is, but what did you feel after every 'cut'?

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well curious and bored at the same time , i was expecting a screaming face at the end or something because they usually add that in movies without sound - and im sure that movie didnt have any sound or else my sound is destroyed.

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Interesting, thank you good sir.

11 years ago
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It´s my pleasure.

11 years ago
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Is "creeped out" a feeling?

Edit: looked it up now. It didn't have the described effect on me. Apparently I'm dead inside from looking at too many creepy stuff.

11 years ago
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Yes, that is another effect. Internet has probably caused that to us.

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indeed XD

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Actually, the imagery immediately reminded me of stuff like Un Chien Andalou or Begotten, so I was kinda primed for being creeped out. I wasn't really watching it as I would watch a "regular" short movie.

Somebody really should run the same experiment with a modern video, shot in full color and with contemporary cinematic techniques. I'm sure a modern audience would respond to something like that in pretty much the same way the first audiences responded to Kuleshov's movie back then.

Edit: Also, it was quite obvious to me the shots of the man's face were always the same. It probably would not be so obvious to the original audiences.

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this^

11 years ago
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Definitely! I like your thought on how something so simple was drastically changed nowadays.

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"Drastic" is a well-chosen word.

The video is supposed to act as a cultural experiment, but the cultural landscape has changed drastically since it was shot. Initially, B&W imagery was the norm, and the audiences would not get stuck up on it. It would just be the neutral background on which the game takes place.

Today, B&W is totally out of place. It is practically reserved for screamers, parodies and hipstering. The change in the medium is so great that it totally drowns out the content. I don't think you'll find many who will respond "as intended". I also don't think you should write this up as the Internet desensitivizing the new generation. It seems like the obvious answer, but until you make a modern adaptation of the experiment, you can't be sure that's what's at play here.

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It is still a yet worthy experiment to do, for me it didn't matter if the results were the appropriate ones, but to know about the moderns opinions.

11 years ago
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Some of you fine gentlemen have quite the keen eyes I see.

11 years ago
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I feel blessed o.O

11 years ago
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Oh? Do tell.

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confused at first.

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And later on?

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i saw that the actor's face was changing a bit, for every scene.

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Interesting, well try scrolling back and forth to check his face, you might get surprised.

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yes, already read the wikipedia page :D

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Nothing... what am I supposed to feel?
I noticed the dead body has a white hand and a black hand...

11 years ago
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You are free to search it, you still have quite the eye though.

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wow, the video kinda scary, i thought it was setting up for a screamer or something

how i felt?, really wierd, i dont know maybe like the guy was hiding something and it was related with what was shown

edit: now that i looked it up, apparently it was right, i always felt the guy was changing his face depending on what he saw.

11 years ago
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Aha! But were you hididng something related to what was shown?

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well, to be honest, i did felt that the guy was changing his face, but i diidnt mentioned it at first because i thought that i was just going crazy and that he actually didint changed his face, so i did not told it.

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Keen eye good sir.

11 years ago
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I'm curious. Why woman was happy. Why kid died. And that mans face...

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Ah, the internet...

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Did not feel anything to be honest, but thought it was the same expression each time - maybe I put too much thought into it, as I could not discern why the three images alternated with the face - seemed there was no purpose...

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Yes, putting too much thought into it can make you not notice, but there is a deeper purpose.

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It was hard to concentrate with this staring at me.

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:D

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Don't be silly kind sir.

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I was terrified it was a screamer the entire time.

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Yes, a common feeling yet not the intended unfortunately.

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same for me, especially when i saw the dead body XD

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I literally started laughing after the second appearance of the guy. Dunno why, it just seemed really stupid and out of place for me.

I don't know how I'm supposed to feel since I haven't research the thing yet, but I'm quite interested. Those kind of experiments usually do not work on me though :)

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Oh laughter? That's quite intriguing. Search it up if you wish.

11 years ago
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Yeah, I just looked it up and it seems interesting, especially since I love learning about video editing tricks.

I can also see how the 'correct' way would work, although for me, the scenes look too much out of place. Maybe if I'd watch the video a couple of times without not knowing how I'm supposed to feel, I'd start to feel it as well. Watching it for the first time however, the video was too weird for me to take seriously. I'm a weird person though and, as I've said, those kind of things don't really work on me :)

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I've learnt about the Kuleshov effect but did not remember the footage. In my opinion the thory is valid but this footage isn't quite the most able to demonstrate it. To demonstrate it you have to show different combinations to different audiences.

ex :

audience 1 sees facial expression, then the meal.

audience 2 sees facial expression, then the dead girl.

audience 3 sees facial expression, then the "sexy girl".

then you ask each audience what they felt about the guys facial expression.

edit : for those who find that weird, this is what the kuleshov effect is about : (from wikipedia)

Kuleshov edited together a short film in which a shot of the expressionless face of Tsarist matinee idol Ivan Mosjoukine was alternated with various other shots (a plate of soup, a girl in a coffin, a woman on a divan). The film was shown to an audience who believed that the expression on Mosjoukine's face was different each time he appeared, depending on whether he was "looking at" the plate of soup, the girl in the coffin, or the woman on the divan, showing an expression of hunger, grief or desire, respectively. Actually the footage of Mosjoukine was the same shot repeated over and over again. Vsevolod Pudovkin (who later claimed to have been the co-creator of the experiment) described in 1929 how the audience "raved about the acting... the heavy pensiveness of his mood over the forgotten soup, were touched and moved by the deep sorrow with which he looked on the dead child, and noted the lust with which he observed the woman. But we knew that in all three cases the face was exactly the same."

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Yes exactly, though it was just tempting for me to show the entirety of it, and yet the results were close enough.

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yeah, I must admit I continue to feel a difference between the facial expressions even now, so I guess it also works the way you put it

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me too.

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me too.

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Nothing. But I'm bad at reading facial expressions.

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Don't put too much thought into it.

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I can't say that I felt anything of note...maybe a lil boredom once ALL the images started repeating, at which point my focus started wondering to the smallest details in each image.

edit: Hey, wait a minute...am I gonna die in 7 days?

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Another important factor that film making has been fighting against, the way the audience looses concentration on the actual film, thank you good sir!

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nope that dude face was always the same for me i didnt notice any difference in his expression...

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OK. That was a strange video. Really really strange or it just was strange to me, don't know. But that makes me investigate this effect and learn about it. Thank you for making me learn something.

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Glad you liked it kind sir.

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this is a bit late, but it didn't really connect think about it in terms of the actor changing his expression for different things, more that all these things were in the same room and it attempting to build a short artistic story out of it. Interesting to read the actual purpose for it though

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I'm glad you're interested, never too late to find about these things.

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Closed 11 years ago by PaulBC.