lol ^_^
for some reason he set his steam profile country as Poland and he trying to use this language but for sure this is google translator only.
first time I see this kind of impostor. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
"Postanowiłem go dzielić" lel, that's mean nothing.
of course reported for reflink spam.
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I guess he tried to say "I decided to share it" ;> Ah, google translator, it will be years before you'll become useful when translating more than 2 words to and from Polish, although it is the case with most of the languages afaik.
Losowe parowa Key
topkek
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I like taking something and translating it through several languages, and then back to the original one. It comes out like poetry night at a coffee shop.
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I am never drunk enough for poetry night at a coffee shop, and since they only serve coffee and tea, it simply ain't gonna happen.
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What a time to be alive. Too bad in other "fields" and places we as a humankind are not doing great at all. And we all know that in some places this is never going to happen. Ever.
I mean, yeah, good for the 'murica and therefore the world, but all I can think of whenever something like this happen is the line from The Book of Mormon (musical).
And I believe that in 1978 God changed His mind about black people
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While I was at work today, I was wondering if this topic of debate is basically what we would've heard had the internet been during the days of bans on interracial marriages. Opponents of both sure use a lot of the same terminology.
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Scalia and Kennedy wanted to get married that much?
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Yo guys! :P
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I'm just going to leave this here. Read it. Ponder on it. Take a piss on it. Spit on it. Disagree with it. Do whatever you want, just read it and have an opinion.
NFL Star Benjamin Watson Says THIS About SCOTUS Ruling on Gay Marriage
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I'm an atheist so...your point?
To clarify, a lot of the claptrap he spouted reads like the kind of thing a doomsayer would be shouting in a city center. The only difference is that he gets paid millions of dollars a year to play games with other adults.
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I don't have a point. I just put an opinion out there. One of many.
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Poor Benjamin, oblivious to how utterly brainwashed he is.
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Same can be said about you. Atheists are as brainwashed as believers, just in the opposite direction. It's funny they don't even realize it.
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Basing one's life solely around the teachings of a hypocritical, fictional book that's been revised countless times by countless people over countless years...
Now that's funny!
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You can belittle the Bible as much you want but the fact is that it helped millions of people be better and many others to get them through hard times.
To me funny is belief that there's nothing after death and that everything we see around us was created by a giant coincidence. Now that is funny.
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Lol, belittling that storybook requires little to no effort on my part - it does a damn fine job of shooting itself in the foot, repeatedly. But hey, you pick and choose the parts you deem relevant for any given situation, whilst ignoring other parts that blatantly contradict them. Funny!
Do you really want to get into that post-death/in-the-beginning stuff? Personally, I'd rather not, but I highly recommend watching Richard Dawkins' videos regarding the matter.
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If that was the case then the Bible wouldn't be the most popular book in the universe.
Also, if that was the case the "does God exist? " wouldn't be one of the most popular and interesting topics ever tackled. Also, a topic that, after so many years, has no real answer to questions posed in it. Only belief, one or another. Yes, God exists. No, God doesn't exist. But no matter how hard you try and what you say the fact is we don't know whether God exists or not.
The fact is that no matter what you do or say you can't belittle the Bible. Its popularity is proof enough of the impact it has on people and the world. You can say what you want about it but it won't change the facts mentioned above.
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Going by your logic, anything that's popular must be flawless, and one person can't personally belittle something/someone...
Oh man, I'm done here.
Back to the topic at hand.
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you don't take arguments from muslims based in their religion to shape your life, why should anyone non-christian bother with arguments purely based in their religion not in facts (article says about angering god, multitude of sins and other religious babble) and shape their opinions based on it?
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No one forces anyone to anything. It's just his opinion.
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I'm agnostic, so I don't give a fuck. The bible doesn't mean a damn thing to me.
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The man gets paid to run into people for a living.
I do appreciate that he realizes that its not his place to judge anyone, but to strive to be a positive example. I'm agnostic, but I've spent a fair amount of time with people of a variety of faiths. I've seen how religion has helped them act as better people. Ideally, people should be kind without any external leverage, but if some people need a framework to behave as better humans, its not necessarily a bad thing.
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Finally someone who doesn't mindlessly bash religion. Thank you for that.
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Religions were made by humans because they didn't understand many of things back then.
Religions in itselves aren't bad. It's how it has been interpreted by humans with the years passing.
My grandmother was religious, yet, she never shunned any people thinking differently of her. I wasn't baptized? She didn't loved me less. I'm an atheist? She never loved me less. Hell, none of my grandparents, that were more religious than my parents, never rejected me in the name of the religion.
I was taught to be tolerant. To be open to everyone, regardless their skin color, their religion, their political opinions.
If I had to bash on religion, I would mainly aim at those using it as a reason to reject everything. Or to reject others. They're existing in all communities anyway, regardless if the excuse is the religion, the gender, the skin color, etc...
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The Bible is clear on the subject of homosexuality.
I am tolerant but I will never say something is right to me when it's not. However, I don't interfere with other people's lives as they have the right to live how they want. Not everyone has to be religious and I respect that. But it works both ways. They should respect my views on the subject of homosexuality.
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You don't use it to reject people. That's a difference.
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Why would I reject people who lead different lifestyle that I do?
The thing is that I differentiate between the lifestyle and the people. While I don't agree with the lifestyle I don't hold anything against people leading it.
"Hate the sin, not the sinner" and we're all sinners. No one is perfect. Also, I don't like people - yes, people who point out other's people sins and faults. That's very arrogant and annoying. Sadly, many christians do that.
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respecting is not the same as agreeing
what opinion are you talking about, i only see some NFL guy thoughts on the matter.
Anyway you shouldn't have brought religion into this discussion, as it makes your opinions look biased.
personally i wont take it seriously if the other person is referring to a book that has been rewritten countless times.
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No one is forcing you to do anything. The point is exactly that: LGBT is not forcing you to do anything, while in many cases, is true the opposite. As I said to you multiple times, if you don't like something, just turn around, go for your road, fear not, God will save you regardless of what others do. It's that simple, really.
I don't like many things humans do, but I will not even remotely move against them ever. It's their life, their choice and untill they aren't harming someone else, they are free to do whatever they please. But this mentality is often bashed by many christians, unfortunately, and I know that very well, since I was one, and have seen many times people just step on this stuff without a reason. They blame all they don't like and they actually step up to neglect that rights. This is not having an opinion, nor is staying outside the matter, this is interfering and having a word on something that doesn't belong to you (I'm speaking in general now, not referring to you particularly).
Aside of that, I have seen respect and disrespect on both parts. Religions, like sexual orientation, like gender, like race, like everything doesn't make you a better or lesser human being than others.
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Yeah, I agree with basically everything you stated here. Except one thing - LGBT force me to applaud them nowadays. You could see in this thread - if I said something remotly against their lifestyle I had a shitstorm coming my way. Even though I didn't even say anything against them, per se. They can't take criticism and nowadays it's all "in my face". It's like "talk about us as long as it's good". I don't like that.
But not all christians are intrusive, I hope you know that.
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It doesn't. For what is worth, you could have been outside the entire topic and noone will say anything about. The topic revolves around people gaining rights, I don't see how it influences you or others, since it doesn't neglect you anyone.
You came here the first time whining about what you see on the social media: people that are joyful and are happy that the world is a bit less restrictive against a minority. You called that "homo-propaganda" and hypocrites, and stupid doing that, it's clear why people are bothered by your posts. Don't get me wrong, there are many people that probably have done that only because was a trend, but it really matters? Religion itself is a trend that people follows, but to you is something important, and I hardly think you would be angry if someone else is showing support to your cause.
So, no, it was not at all "homo-propaganda", no one is forcing you to like it by any stretch of imagination. If you see that, you haven't understood what was reached with that decision.
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Of course you will see it that way - you love it. It doesn't bother you because you're all for it. You really don't understand what I'm saying? I can't say a bad thing about homosexual lifestyle because I'm demonized if I do. I can't have a negative opinion about it. And that's major BS man, that's like indoctrination. Everyone is stormed with LGBT nowadays, be it on FB, on the streets (gay parades) or even in the movies (in almost every movie or tv show there's a gay character now, I don't mind it but it's so forced it hurts, they just have to put them in there which is ridiculous) and the whole homosexuality is celebrated to the point of being raised above heterosexual relations. Do you see heterosexual couples acting like that? Going on parades and flashing their lifestyle in everyone's faces? I don't. And as you could clealy see in this thread, I simply cannot say that I disagree with homosexuality (even though I'm not even saying anything about the people who lead such lifestyle) because I'm an "opressor", "I don't respect people's rights" and I'm evil in general. Hate me for having an opinion cause that won't change.
Also, some things will never be equal. No matter how many laws will be created stating otherwise. Slavery was legal back in the day - it didn't make it right. Just because somethig is legal doesn't mean it's right, period.
If someone can't take criticizm but the same person criticizes someone else for something then this person is a hypocrite. Plain and simple. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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By your logic this cause makes sense, just because something is illegal (Same-Sex Marriage), doesn't mean it is wrong.
People put up parades when we were declared free from the British, when we got rid of segregation, when we acquired women's rights,
and now when we have gained the right to marry any other human being, regardless of gender, race, religion etc.
All significant advancement's in the rights of human beings even if they do not apply to oneself.
The reason you are demonized is because you are viewed just like older white couples in the 60's and 70's, who were against the rights of blacks.
No something's will never be equal, but it doesn't mean we are not supposed to work towards the goal.
Also heterosexuals have no need to "go on parades" and "flash their lifestyle" as they already have the rights and acceptance from society.
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Don't compare this to racism because it's completely different. Homosexual people have the same rights as heterosexual people except for marriage (in some countries)! Black people back then didn't have ANY rights. I don't see anyone calling homosexual people names and forcing them to work on their fields while holding them at a gunpoint. Again, absolutely different thing. Black people didn't have any rights at all back then and homosexual people just don't have one or two privileges (not even rights) that heterosexual people have. Still not seeing the difference?
I'm demonized because I say something that is not popular. And most people around here are just jumping on the bandwagon of "yaaay, let's be happy for them" without even thinking the thing through.
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I'm demonized because I say something that is not popular. And most people around here are just jumping on the bandwagon of "yaaay, let's be happy for them" without even thinking the thing through.
From the same person who used popularity as argument for the Bible's credibility. Hypocrisy much?
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.... Have you ever heard someone being called a "Fag" or a "Faggot"?
Also you are talking about slavery, not racism.
They legally had the same rights but were refused services like marriage, cough cough, and were discriminated against.
The similarities are beyond there. Along with Marches, Parades, and eventually getting equal rights. Including, interracial marriage.
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Regarding "faggot".
Slavery of black people is not the same as racism? Well, then I don't know what is.
They had no rights at all. They were treated like shit, they had no basic human rights. There were no consequences for killing black people back in the day. Don't even compare status of black people to status of homosexual people cause it's laughable. They have all the rights heterosexual people have aside from marriage and now they do have even that. Don't make them out to be martyrs cause if you make martyrs of them then we can make martyrs of any social group that doesn't have this or that right.
I also remember no one made a big deal of using the word "faggot" back in the 90's but nowadays everyone's greatly offended. People are bunch of pussies nowadays. And faggot, like Louie CK explained, isn't even about being homosexual, it's about acting in a certain way. But nowadays if you use the word you're automatically considered "homophobic". That's pure ignorance.
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Listen. Slavery was Racism. HOWEVER, if you compare this movement to the Civil Right's movement of the 60's and 70's there are a lot of parallels.
Also Louis C.K is a great guy, but words fucking change. It is now associated with homosexuality and has a new derived meaning. If we wanna use your example back in the day of the 1800's "Gay" meant carefree and lighthearted.
Martyrs? None of them died for this cause, their has not been a high profile assassination of a supporter of the movement, but if their was it would continue to have parallels with the Civil Right's movement.
AGAIN, no shit they have the same rights, but do they have equal rights under these laws? Are people not discriminating against them and refusing to give them service coughMarriagecough, even though it is legal under the defined law of our nation? Same as not being served at the counter because of the color of your skin, 60 years ago.
Don't hide behind the "it was better in the old day's argument"
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Words don't change so fast. They can change during 150 year span but not during 20 year span. Modern society is just too sensitive towards anything that could offend someone. "Political correctness" is just a bunch of baloney. You can offend christians, catholics and buddhists and no one will say a word but the minute you say something against homosexual people (even as a joke) you're automatically labeled the worst scumbag alive. Double standards, hypocrisy. You're right, back in the day homosexuals had it hard (no pun intended) and were bashed all the time but nowadays it's the other way around. Back then you couldn't say a good thing about them without being bashed by the society and nowadays you can't say a bad thing about them without being bashed by the society. Just shows how shallow society really is and stands for nothing as a whole. It also shows society loves extremism. There's no place for moderation, it's either "all for" or "all against". Reminds me of "witch hunt" mentality from the middle ages. Only shows how easy it is to manipulate society into thinking 1+1=3. Doesn't matter that it's not true. Not for the general population anyway.
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I'll give you that most of your argument here is solid, aside from the word thing, but it could be applied to any event involving discrimination. Like you couldn't say racist shit about African- American's right after the civil right's movement for the same reasons. All it means is that society has found a new norm, but will take some time to actually normalize it and become stable, trust me, after a few years/ decades it'll all blow over until the next big thing.
Plus to be fair, society has always been extremist/ vocal extremist in it's beliefs, and moderation comes in time after a mellowing. Plus to be fair in this issue, along with all discrimination, you cannot be moderate, you are for or against.
The reason why offending Christians, Catholics, and Buddhists, is fine is that these people have been the Average Joe, and accepted for so long, that people aren't really ignited by jokes. But Homosexuals have been the "oppressed" (notice I use quotes because I don't mean it in the most serious sence but more like it's been viewed negatively and associated with bad stuff to the extent if you were seen as one you were deemed bad) and have at the same time been such outliers from the norm, that it has become "hurtful".
Plus like I said above, the word one is bullshit. Words change constantly as the world deems fit. Fucking words are made up everyday and have evolving meanings. Just because you believe Faggot means an asshole, doen't mean the average person boesn't associate it with a homosexual slur.
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You can be moderate, it just means you don't get involved in the argument because it's none of your business. Or if you get involved you don't fight tooth and nail for whatever you believe is right. But nowadays everyone has to have opinion on everything AND voice it everywhere AND act like their opinion is the most righteous one. That's bullshit. That's why those debates about homosexuality (for example) are so fierce and very often turn to hatred. Look at me in this thread for example, I stated my opinion but I don't care much about it. I also stated repeatedly that it's none of my business really and if they want it they can have it. It's like whatever to me. I'm neither for nor against. The problem is that many people are extremely for or against and they turn it on people. They don't fight the IDEA of homosexuality anymore, they fight the people, call them names, hate them. That is getting it too far and it's a starting point of so called "witch hunt".
Religious people are offended on daily basis and very often killed because of their beliefs (in some African countries, in North Korea etc.). The thing with offending religious people and their religion is that someone thinks they find the idea of God laughable it gives them right to humiliate a believer and their faith in order to elevate themselves on some higher level of intelligence (hence most atheists use "argument" - "you believe in invisible God in the sky? You also believe in unicorns?") which aims to, like I said, laugh at another person and elevate the other party to some higher level in their mind. Also, if you're a very devout religious person the "jokes" and offences will get to you, even if you won't show that, trust me. It's like someone offending someone you love, your family members for example.
I'm not saying homosexual people were not "oppressed". I'm saying religious peope have been too and you made it look like it's okay cause "it doesn't even bother them" which is not true (I'm speaking from the POV of a believer cause I am one).
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"Religions in itselves aren't bad. It's how it has been interpreted by humans with the years passing."
Would you say the same thing about Nazism too?
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Yes and no.
Nazism isn't a religion. It's a political ideology.
Nazism was, like any religion, based on some beliefs. Hitler had a view for it, other people saw something else in their programs.
Would you say the same thing about Communism? Yeah, because on paper, it wasn't bad. Yet, look how it evolved.
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You are perfectly demonstrating how flawed western liberal thinking is. Sure, it's a problem that Nazis and religious people interpret their ideology/religion in a way that makes them hate certain people. But when a huge percentage of subscribers of a certain ideology/religion interpret that way, you really should admit that maybe there's something wrong with the religion/ideology itself. The ideology/religion is, after all, the ultimate source of their way of thinking.
"Nazism isn't a religion. It's a political ideology."
Does that really matter? Would everything suddenly change if today's Nazis decided to make it into a religion? Would it be something that everybody had to respect simply because it would be a religion?
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The only thing that I know is that basically, religions evolve. And yeah, I disagree with some dogmas in religions. However, some of these dogmas appeared way later than at the birth of the religion.
And my problem with religions (or others) are mainly the fanaticals, in any one of them.
And nazism as a religion? Meh, nope, it would not be alright because of what we know now. Would have it become at the time of the birth, I think that many of "us" wouldn't have been bothered by it.
Look, all ways of thinking are flawed. We can argument and get counter arguments. So yeah, my way of thinking may be flawed, I don't possess all the knowledge of the world. But I can admit that I'm influenced by my culture too :)
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Don't really care if they can marry or not.
Though I must admit gay people are kind of disgusting to me
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Number 1 cause of divorce = Marriage.
Grats to the gay community on becoming part of the statistics. Now you can be just as miserable as straight folk.
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Ok, I guess no one really wants to play TERA with me. You'll be sorry once I hit lvl 65 with all the best gear available.
But anyway I checked some comments in this topic and as one very beautiful and attractive person told me the other day, the number of people outside of USA who somehow feel threatened and jeopardized by this court decision is hilarious.
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"Anyone who hates on this will be instantly blacklisted". Can you tell me what freedom means , if i'm not free to be as twisted as i wanna be? <3
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and how exactly does this statement hinder your freedom to be as twisted as you wanna be?
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If i do it i get blacklisted m8 , even if i don't really wanna do anything and it's just a part of a song i was listening to i tought it was kinda appropriate for the matter.
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You can still do as you please, though. You are free to take the consequences of your actions and be blacklisted if you make some derogatory comments. But you can still make them, no one can stop you from that.
Gee, I haven't heard Disturbed in ages.
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"You see I believe in freedom. Not many people do, although they will of course protest otherwise. And no practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based.”
― Terry Pratchett, Going Postal
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hope your country is next in line edit:- just saw you live in vatican city.... well thats unfortunate for you :D
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And here is some sad news from another part of the world. I dedicate it to all the shitty homophobes that "are simply stating their opinion" all over the thread. This news spread today across all leftist and centrist polish media today. Not strangely at all every freaking far-right or catholic portal or newspaper is silent like a stone. Presumably too ashamed to admit that their hateful articles took a part in this tragedy as well.
Dominik Szymański was a 14 years old boy from small 2k population village in Poland. It is not even certain if he was a gay or just metrosexual - but surely he's appearence didn't get him liked but he's "real male" school friends. A boy who simply took care of himself, was intrested in fashion, dressing according to newest trends, taking care of his hair and skin - soon enough got all the school bandits after him. He'd get been called by them "pedzał/pedzio" - closest translation would be a "faggot/fag". It didn't help that he was trying to focus on studying, getting good grades, being friends with all class girls, but not wanting to date any of them. His bullying from other boys from school was only getting worse and worse. From just calling him a fag it got to threathening, pushing him "by accident" on school corridors, even up to throwing rocks and other dangerous objests towards him. Teachers who he sought help from mostly ignored him. One even joined the hate-train - telling him it's his own fault and if he dressed and acted like a normal boy there would be no problem. This teacher ended up bullying Dominik himself during classes. Finally Dominik decided he cannot take it anymore. 3 days ago it got reported he commited suicide.And you know what the worst part is? He's suicide wasn't even the worst part of his story.
After his suicide few kids from his school set up a FaceBook page where all the people could post their condolences to the family. Soon enough "real males" started to sabotage the page with hateful comments, like "Glad he's dead. We do not need queers like him in our country.", "One fucking faggot down, few millions left to go." - and these are the least vulgar ones. Then they created a fanpage called "Dominik Szymański dobrze, że zdechł" which can translate to Dominik Szymański glad he died, just with a one exception. Word "zdechł" means "died" but only in context of animals, For humans we use word "umarł". So not only these bastards were celebrating his suicidal death, but also deprived him of being even human, for them he was only an animal simply because in their eyes "he was too gay". This hateful fanpage got 26k followers in just 5 hours before it was taken down. After it shitload of other fanpages ranging from "Glad he's dead" to "Exterminate all gays" emmerged in half day accumulating tens of thousands followers and over twice as many likes. People celebrating that they've driven a kid to kill himself!! And they're not just dumb teenagers spreading this whole hate towards tragically dead kid - they are also adults or even reporters from catholic medias joining these fanpages... Noone thinks about tragedy his family is going through. Noone thinkas they're putting a salt into his mother's wpounds. It doesn't matter for them at all - because they have a reason to celebrate! They killed another fag!
So my conclusion, directed towards all the homophobes in this topic will be: BE CONSIDERATE OF WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE SAYING/WRITING/POSTING!!! for you it may be just stating and fighting your opinions. For someone who you're referring it towards it will be heavy bullying. And every time you hate someone, who is totally unrelated to you yourself at all, has no influence on your life at all, but you hate him anyway just because of who he is - think that you may be just driving another poor kid one step closer to killing himself. And partially you will be the one to blame. And your god, you believe in and you so much like to reffer to, will put it onto you the day he may judge you.
Additional stats: According to recent studies 63% of homosexual teens in Poland have suicidal thoughts and 14% have tried to commit suicide, mostly driven by bullying based on their orientation. For comparison only 12% heterosexual teens admit to having suicidal thoughts and less than 2% took an attempt.
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To me, the teachers and the school administration in this case are the real culprits, even if the boy was 'different' allowing him to be bullied to this extent and one of them bullying him himself/herself that boils my blood!!!! I had my share of bullying when I was young but had sense enough (took quite some time and courage but eventually) to finally confront the bastards, they backed off like the cowards they are and didnt bother me again. In this case, all involved school staff (whoever knew about what was being done to the boy) should be terminated and even prosecuted for negligence or some law that's there for protection of children from harassment... and to the filth who are posting hate even after the boy committed suicide what can you say, its sad humanity is the way it is.... in my case, I have met gay people, have been friends with a couple and even for lack of a better word been made a pass on I just politely say I am not the type or whatever and say to look elsewhere...
(now I know I shld probably not be posting about this here) but aggressive gays are also a nuisance (a few days ago a regular 25 yr old tall and strong male got raped in another part of my country by four men when he was travelling through the country side alone had taken a stop at an inn and was 'out n about for a walk' as he said rare I know but then this kind of thing also happens, then there's this personal story I have of being harassed (they called out and asked if I would take a ride with them and would suck cock, I said I dont do the sucking I get sucked) by a band of 5 or 6 drunk gay people outside a liquor store while walking home alone and drunk myself and being hit repeatedly for talking back, it felt humiliating to be a. talked to like that and b then getting beaten quite badly... The hate I felt for their types the next few days is indescribable because I had never encountered behaviour like that... fortunately for them I haven't seen any of them ever again at the same place or at least recognized any of them) so yeah aggressive and abusive gays are another matter, these people also need some lessons...
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This saddens me greatly, and reminds me we have a long way to go to help educate our fellow heretosexuals. And for those that refuse to be educated...therein lies the "Great Problem."
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I know in which thread I am, what you were answering to, but "we" should educate kids to not be pricks to each other in general.
I was not born yesterday, if it wasn't for his alleged sexuality it would've been glasses, lisp or one of other reasons from the pool.
The Facebook outrage including grown-up (public?) people is a whole another story, sadly.
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"What can men do against such reckless hate?"-Theoden
" Ride out with me, ride out and meet them."-Aragorn
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I'm speechless and outraged.
If it wasn't for this thread, I wouldn't even know... perks of not reading the news
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That smile at the beginning... oh, she's mental alright.
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person from the video: "At the end of the day, I think we don't need to truly be ashamed of how we truly feel about things, so... just be you"
gay person: k *is gay and marries another gay person*
person from the video: that's not what I meant ;__;
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I was sort of surprised not to see any threads about this already but as a straight male ally, congratulations to all the people in the USA who are now able to legally
tie that ball-and-chain around their anklebe with the person they love. Yeah, that.If people intend to spread hate then they will probably end up blacklisted.
Apparently I need to clarify this for some people. Dissenting opinions do not equate hate, I meant inflammatory or derogatory posts. I think I've only blacklisted one person so far, although some of you may already be on my list. (Written about 3 hours after I originally posted this.)
Mawwwwwwwwiage...
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