two guys sleeping together i wonder who's gonna make the baby.
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They can have a baby the same way any infertile couple can.
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So I don't want to be rude, but you are here from at least 2-3 hours, telling that you are not here "to make wars" and not writing anything bad... yet you provoke people with this (ridicolous) commonplace thinking.
First of all, no one is telling you that they want babies, two people unite in marriage or love for many reasons. Secondly, there are many ways to have a baby without doing sex. There are orphanages full of children, in vitrum births and many other ways rising around. But I still don't see how this is your concern anyway... care to explain?
And please, if you want to go with the "extinction" arguments, please take 2 hours off this forum and just start reading something about, than we can actually discuss.
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i don't think i have said anything wrong at all but isn't the meaning of marriage all about making a family or what?
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Its about the legal union of two people, which is enough to be a family.
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Saying that expressed in that way doesn't seems so polite, and the smile (xD) at the end doesn't help the case too. If you have legitimate doubts you can still do some research or simply ask without the needs of writing it as a provocation. And as others have said, marriage =/= having babies. A family is one also without children.
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What about a straight couple who doesn't want kids? Not a family?
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I've known plenty of Christians- straight and gay both- tell me that Asexuality is an afront to God, since God made us to be sexual creatures [which is really, really weird coming from Gays, but the Gays that do it can't ever seem to grasp the correlation].
So yeah, I guess not a family? I assume the connection here is having Children, that's generally the thing thrown out, because we don't have so many orphans out there [even from hetero-normative families, gasp!] already.
Remember, if you choose not to have sex, you're pious, if you don't want to have sex, you're an affront to God.
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Yeah we are here to make a gay-only world, we want the humanity to end by extinction bwah bwah, we are evilllllll.
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Man, I don't want to be gay! I've already been rejected by half the population. I'm not eager to be rejected by the other half!
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See! They're already laughing at me!
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Well, if there is anything that I've learned about the gay community is that we can be extremely picky but this has lead to very niche groups that one can thrive in. Some men only date large, hariy guys while others prefer muscle men or very short and thin.
Don't worry, if you ever want to play for the other team, there is definitely someone who will want to meet you :P.
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also majority of ppl here, including me, are hetero. So you basically say we hate ourselves? WTF?
Being hetero doesn't neccessary mean you must hate homo. Like being white doesn't indicate you must hate black/asian people, being blonde doesn't indicate you must hate gingers etc.
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I thought we were all united on the hating of Gingers....
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hey, I actually find ginger girls extremely hot ;)
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well, do the next step and get rid of that ridiculos imperial system for measurement and your guns abd perhaps you can catch up and transform into a civilized country.
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i still have hope...but it will be a long way to go..... at least in science they know how shitty the imperial system is and use the metric one
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From a purely functional standpoint, neither one would ever happen:
- The financial cost of converting everything to the Metric system would be truly staggering, and would yield no monetary gain.
- By most estimates, there are about 300,000,000 guns in the U.S.. Rounding up 300,000,000 of anything would be a staggering endeavor. Rounding up that many of something that people want to keep is simply impossible. Add to the fact that the thing you're trying to round up can also be used to prevent itself from being rounded up makes it functionally impossible.
- Some prior responses have said that we should then ban bullets instead, but that would only create a black market for bullets, and do nothing to stop people from making/packing their own shells.
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It is possible to shift from imperial to metric. Canada did so back in the 80s and now we use some weird hybrid of the two (even though only metric is taught in school). The hardware store is mostly in imperial but the grocer uses metric. There is some costs associated with the switch and an air plane running out of fuel midflight but beyond that it isn't too bad.
Guns, well Canada is relatively welled armed so guns aren't a totally bad thing. I just find the U.S. as an odd attitude with regards to gun ownership. They see it as a right and many see it as a necessary tool for self defence, where I (and many others would agree) it is a privilege. There are very few cases where I can see that you definitely need a gun for self defense. Sport shooting I am fine with and hunting as well (which is extremely popular over here). What I have a hard time wrapping my head around are those who want to own military grade weapons. Those are weapons of war, not something you should be able to own for the fun of it. That is just me though.
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Well, in the U.S. it literally is a right. I disagree that it should be (and the modern interpretation of the 2nd Amendment), but after 200 years of being told that it is their right, there's really no turning around that boat. And honestly, I don't have a problem with responsible gun ownership. But its likely most other potential problems in society: the responsible part.
Canada is a huge landmass, but the population is pretty condensed, so its a much smaller comparison for metric conversion. Just try and imagine relocating 164,000 mile-markers on the highways. Changing every highway destination sign that says "... 2 miles ahead"; gallons of gas; 18ft of clearance; Speed limit signs; etc. The highway costs alone would easily be millions of dollars, and that money desperately needs to be spent on the roads and bridges (but won't be).
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well, any modern society should be able to adapt things to mondern times. every older country had to do that regularly (seperation from state and church, gettign rid of monarchy etc.).
you do not need to replace all highway markers and so....just make everything new metric, switch old stuff when doing work on the road anyway and after 1-2 generations you are done at almost no extra cost.
lack of money is not you problem, you should just spend it the right way: education, infrastructure and some social stuff to raise the standard of the lower class.
instad you invest in bombs and weapons to invade and bomb other countries.
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See how deeply our imperial measurement issues go? Even our bombs are measured in pounds!
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Why would we get rid of the Imperial system? Farenheit is so much better for day to day use than Celsius, which in turn belongs more in labs, though not nearly as much as Kelvin does; Kelvin is the ultimate scientific measurement of temperature, much better than farenheit and celsius. Our ability to give a much more accurate depiction of how hot/cold it is outside is in my opinion, extremely helpful. That and nautical miles is literally the perfect unit of geographical measurement, it also makes the most sense on a geographic scale. Why choose today's society's round number when you can choose the a constant such as the 360 degrees of the earth for your measurement? Round numbers change, the degrees of the earth do not. Why give up accuracy and things that simply make sense, just to join the popular crowd that don't even like us? I certainly wouldn't want to conform to the ways of people that call me uncivilized like yourself. I'd want to be as unlike unreasonably hostile people like yourself as I possibly could.
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wiki: On Fahrenheit's original scale the lower defining point was the lowest temperature to which he could reproducibly cool brine (defining 0 degrees), while the highest was that of the average human core body temperature (defining 96 degrees).
celsius is the freezing/boiling point of water. and basically a shifted kelvin scale so temperature differences are the same for kelvin and celius. fahrenheit is a completly arbitary scale, which make no sense today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joule and basically every other international standard unit is based on the metric system which is why almost no scientist even in the us will use the imperial system.
yes the nautical mile defined by an arcminute along a meridian is a good idea. and therefore may have some benefits for navigation at sea.
the "land" mile on the contrary is completely arbitary and has no such benefit.
the is no precision gain or loss in using any of those system since u may use real numbers in all of those to the degree of precision you see fit.
so why should you switch? ...because science and the rest of the world has already done so. you make your life a lot easier since you understand science and international standard units better and you do not have do do the transformation between the systems to visualize the numbers.
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I have nothing against same sex marriage as an institution of the state. I think those who want to pursue such ideas should be able to do so legally. With that said though I don't think the supreme court should be legislating what can or can not happen in a church though, as that would be legislating religion and setting religious policies as part of the federal government is directly opposed to the constitution. So I think there should be some distinction between religious institutions of marriage and legal/govt policies of marriage.
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There always has been. People can get married in a church without filing paperwork for a legal marriage.
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you can understand the post but not man enough to write what you want to write in english?
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Я пишу на том языке, на котором удобнее мне.
Если у гей-быдла есть вопросы, я man enough, чтобы ответить на них в приватной беседе на удобном быдлу языке.
Ко-ко-ко, петушки, да бомбанет пуканы ваши от непереводимости, да отведайте же уд жеребца вороного по самые помидоры буржуйские.
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or real reason:
I have my opinion, but I'm too afraid to voice it in a way majority would be able to understand, so they do not blacklist or suspend me. I'm a true warrior for my cause - as long as I fight for it using the anonimity of the internet and language noone will understand, just in case so I will not get into trouble.
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Если бы твое мнение было верно, я бы не писал ни на каком языке. Понять суть написанного легко с помощью переводчика. На этом сайте очень много русскоязычных пользователей, так что я бы поспорил насчет "язык, который никому не понятен". Просто мне нравится, как злятся слабые умы от мелкого троллинга в интернете.
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Google translate - "If your opinion were true, I would not write in any language . Understand the written easily through an interpreter. On this site a lot of Russian-speaking users , so I would argue about the " language that no one understood ." I just like how angry weak minds from small trolling the Internet."
Id say his opinion is dead on considering most of the replies in the thread are in english, and you seem to understand it well enough to reply, implying that you can probably type in it just as easily.
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About 25% here understand Russian.
And I'm too lazy to write in foreign language.
If you want to know my opinion: I am against same-sex marriages because it's not natural.
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and 99% opposed to your 25% (more like 20% or less) understand english. And it's english-speaking community, not russian-speaking or multi-language-allowed community.
Speaking in russian in english speaking community, expecting everyone to understand you or bother translating you is not natural. Not like same-sex marriages which are totally natural.
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Same-sex marriages are totally natural? LOL.
If it is supported by some governments that doesn't mean that it is natural.
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Marriages aren't necessarily natural, either. While some species do mate for life, most just do their best to spread their seed however and whenever they can.
Homosexuals, however, are the natural result of sex between heterosexuals.
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nope, it being supported by two normal people who love each other, no matter what their sex is, is what makes it natural. Religious obligations, government obligations are unnatural things. Love is most natural thing there is.
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Grats to all those who were waiting for this to happen everyone deserves the right to marry the one they love.
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Inshallah the infidels will have a taste of Gods wrath.
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What does God's wrath taste like? I imagine Taco Bell Fire Sauce.
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If you ever get the chance, you should try some Secret Aardvark Habanero Hot Sauce. Its amazing!
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I'm always searching out the perfect hotsauce. Something with a good amount of kick, but that won't overwhelm the flavors. I can't stand hot sauce that is just trying to be scalding. I want good flavor, and this stuff is the best I've ever had.
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that's funny I didn't know western europe meant all of europe..
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in fact it doesn't. or at least i also didn't know.
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Its basically legal in all of the countries in Europe that touch the Atlantic.
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yep, but the other fellow probably is considering that what is true for atlantic european countries is not for continental europe countries. i mantain that's pretty common in europe, but of course others can have other perspectives.
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One more place I regularly visit polluted with shit I don't give a fuck about.
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Note that if you don't care, there is no need to post here (just ignore the thread and move on).
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Personally i have no problems with it, I just wish people on FB would stop reposting the same stuff over and over. Looks like there's going to be some couples that might break up over this, I knew of a few couples that used the "I would totally marry you, we're just not allowed to" as an excuse to not take it to the next level. :-P
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Wow took that long ot be legal huh?
Finally someone used the arguement that "Why shouldn't those bastards be miserible like the rest of us?"
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This seems like a good time to repost Maurice Williamson's Big Gay Rainbow speech from when gay marriage was legalized in New Zealand. It's still one of my favorite speeches.
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In my opinion, the same-sex marriage is ok, but adopting child is not.
Same category as BDSM. It's bedroom-secret. Nobody wants to know it, even if it's "natural".
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Yes. You're allowing your own children to go out, and keep adopted ones in their's bedrooms up until they're 18 yo. And just then they sprout as fully-growth homosexual people, because you never gave them any kind of normal, heterosexual example. It's shady area, noone should talk about this...
<sarcasm off>
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I've read this three times, and it's still funny as fuck to me.
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Well...yes, in a ideal world(an impossible utopia), we wouldn't have foster homes, cause all the orphans would instantly get adopted by traditional heterosexual couples, but since that's not the case, would you really prefer a kid staying in an orphanage and getting raised on your tax money (very poorly, btw) rather than being adopted in a nice loving family, even if it is a gay one? Think about that...
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I was sort of surprised not to see any threads about this already but as a straight male ally, congratulations to all the people in the USA who are now able to legally
tie that ball-and-chain around their anklebe with the person they love. Yeah, that.If people intend to spread hate then they will probably end up blacklisted.
Apparently I need to clarify this for some people. Dissenting opinions do not equate hate, I meant inflammatory or derogatory posts. I think I've only blacklisted one person so far, although some of you may already be on my list. (Written about 3 hours after I originally posted this.)
Mawwwwwwwwiage...
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