Please, no spoilers.

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It's not REALLY necessary.

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Could I just read the wikipedia for it before playing 2 then? It looks kinda dated...

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Dude, I'm playing Black Mesa right now, the remake mod of Half-Life, and itis AWESOME. In fact more awesomer than Half-Life 2, so GO PLAY IT before HL2!

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It's still missing the ending.

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Only Xen is missing, but the game ends with a "to be Concluded".

To be honest, Xen is a very small part of HL1 and is not a big deal. One could just watch a Xen playthrough on Youtube or read the Wiki if they don't want to wait.

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That sounds like a good idea.

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But you'll appreciate the trouble you went through to complete it first!

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Not really that important, but I would suggest playing Black Mesa.

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^ This

BMS is here

Along with 'On A Rail - Loop mod' addon from here and probably 'Surface Tension Uncut' addon as well here

Black Mesa Source DOES NOT included Xen part of HL1, though (some beta versions of such addons can be found).

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Call me dim but what is it exactly?

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I've been told to play Black Mesa, because I'm in the same situation as you. I heard that it's a remake(correct me if I am wrong) of Half Life 1.

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yes it is, bt for now just has a half of the game half-life. maybe to be more realistic

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its half life 1 in full blown Source engine.

It's not a direct port like the Valve lazy-bums did. It's a complete re-do that took an indie group of coders a LOT of time to make.

it's basically HL1 with fully updated visuals, including HD models/textures and high-res models and everything Source has to offer.

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AND new cool music, AND updated areas as in bigger and more beautiful environments!

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Should I wait until they release the last chapters for Black Mesa ?

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No, it will take them years to complete it, don't forget Black Mesa was like 9 years in the making. The missing chapters are only the last few chapters, they're tedious and boring and you can just watch the original's ending on youtube. Gameplaywise you won't miss anything, believe me.

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Gonarch! No one ever remembers Gonarch!... :(
[edit] @OP: don't look this up, it'd be a spoiler for HL1 [/edit]

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Only Xen is missing, but the game ends with a "to be Concluded".

To be honest, Xen is a very small part of HL1 and is not a big deal. One could just watch a Xen playthrough on Youtube or read the Wiki if they don't want to wait.

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No god, Everybody should play the original Half Life.

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with the blue shift(TM) HD textures pack.

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If your in it for the story, Then Half Life 1 shows you how it all started, and may make Half Life 2 a little less confusing. If your not a fan of the graphics (It is a pretty old game), Try playing Black Mesa, Its a remake of Half Life 1 using the Source Engine, and it try's to be as close to the original as possible (With Minor changes here and there).

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I shall do that tonight:D thanks!

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No Problem, I updated the post with a link if you need it.

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Thanks a lot:P

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Yeah, but last time I checked Black Mesa was not completed. The last part of the game was still under development. Maybe they finished it by now, I don't know.

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Only Xen is missing, but the game ends with a "to be Concluded".

To be honest, Xen is a very small part of HL1 and is not a big deal. One could just watch a Xen playthrough on Youtube or read the Wiki if they don't want to wait.

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Xen is like 1/7th of the game, perhaps not even that large, and it is boring as shit. I would just watch the boss fight on youtube.

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It's not necessary but the background info will surely help, here's a speedrun of HL1 in 36 min Clicky

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Necessery for better story understanding... also... THEY ARE BOTH EXCELLENT GAMES

But if you want to skip the old graphics not really a big problem

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If the graphics is a problem, he can also play Black Mesa Source :)

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not really since black mesa source is missing alot from the end of hl

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Only Xen is missing, but the game ends with a "to be Concluded".

To be honest, Xen is a very small part of HL1 and is not a big deal. One could just watch a Xen playthrough on Youtube or read the Wiki if they don't want to wait.

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Stop saying the same every time again, both of you.

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HL1 spoiler-free recap for HL2: you are the silent protagonist Gordon Freeman, a scientist newly arrived to Black Mesa, a secret research facility. You don a hazard suit as you prepare to conduct an experiment that you're late for. Things go wrong, aliens arrive, and you "clean up" as much of the mess as you can. Later, the military also decides it's probably a good idea for them to step in. Some of the first aliens you encounter are affectionately called "headcrabs" because they jump at your face, latch onto your skull, and slowly turn you into a mind-controlled alien zombie (actually, in-game, they just kill you, but that's what they do to NPCs). Also, there's a mysterious guy in a government suit who talks funny. In the end, you win... or lose... or... well, it's not very clear.
Cut to HL2.

[edit] Also, the facility's security guards are nice. All of them are named Barney. (Technically, none of them are, the name is a developer joke... but a retcon for the Blue Shift expansion and HL2 means at least one of them was.) [/edit]

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Not very. I played HL2 first and wanted to play the first one to see how Gordon Freeman ended up in this situation. When I played HL1, I got confused.

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Half Life 1 is one of my favorite games of all time, but to those unaccustomed, the graphics would dull the experience, though its not really necessary - just so you know (very slightly more) about who you are - and for a joke in episode 2, other than that its fine without it.

as others said Black Mesa Source is your best bet.

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its not essential at all. the situation, the characters, they'll all be introduced and explained in hl2, so you dont really need to play hl1.

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I dunno but I think you really should play Half-Life 1 because it's a great game. Also Opposing Force and Blue Shift:p Also Black Mesa: Source is pretty crap, and it's missing stuff from the end of Half-life.

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Black Mesa is brilliant. One of my the best remakes I've ever played, I think I was smiling the entire time playing it.

As for the ending, only Xen is missing, but the game ends with a "to be Concluded".

To be honest, Xen is a very small part of HL1 and is not a big deal. One could just watch a Xen playthrough on Youtube or read the Wiki if they don't want to wait.

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The whole time I was like "damn this is boring" for some reason. I enjoy the original much much more.

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dont know bout anybody else but i generally like to play a series from the start.

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it is a good idea, but not necessary

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If you don't get Barney's line near the start of HL2 then you don't deserve to play the game...

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get half life source http://store.steampowered.com/app/280/ if you only want to play the game, or get normal one if you want to play on mods too.

Half-Life (original version)

  • +more "authentic"
  • +many mods are available
  • +autosaves at loading screens
  • -technical issues from it being an old game

Half-Life: Source

  • +minor Improvements made to the physics, lighting and water effects
  • +runs better on modern computers
  • +you can begin a new game from any chapter
  • -autosave feature was removed
  • -no mods
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Because of CS1.6 HL (original) is also run great on modern systems.
For OP- Black Mesa Source than hl2.

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there some missing stuff in black mesa.. and not made by valve it mean the quality is not the same..

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Have you played it? The quality is top notch. The remade Questionable Ethics level is fantastic.

As for the missing parts, only Xen is missing, but the game ends with a "to be Concluded".

To be honest, Xen is a very small part of HL1 and is not a big deal. One could just watch a Xen playthrough on Youtube or read the Wiki if they don't want to wait.

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I've never played Half-Life: Source but I expect it to be better than Black Mesa: Source

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No. It is not. It is just HL1 ported to Source engine. BM has new textures which make the game look awesome.

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Black Mesa looks horrible to me

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HL:S sux.

I'ts just HL1 with ragdolls and some small physics things. I'ts better to buy and play original HL1 or BM:S.

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They do keep referencing to events from HL1 and you won't know why you end up at the start, but you could play it just fine without it.

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you can play the remake called Black Mesa for free! here

It's totally legal and it's coming to steam too (greenlight)

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it's not a remake it's missing stuff

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Nothing that's essential for the plot.

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The end of the game isn't essential to the plot?

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Xen world is in the making and according to the devs it will be released once it's on Steam.

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Only Xen is missing, but the game ends with a "to be Concluded".

To be honest, Xen is a very small part of HL1 and is not a big deal. One could just watch a Xen playthrough on Youtube or read the Wiki if they don't want to wait.

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Jesus, you really worked out the CTRL and V keys in this thread.

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People kept saying the same thing over and over. Too lazy to retype something new every time.

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Black Mesa actually adds something I don't think Valve would've approved if they were the ones making it.

spoiler, but not really
In the beginning of Black Mesa, the vortigaunts use their protective taunts on Gordon. This makes Gordon seem important all along. In Half-Life, this wasn't the case. Gordon earned his way to importance by being "the right man in the wrong place."

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I'm waiting for Black Mesa to release on Steam in September, before starting HL2

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Play HL not HL2. I can't even imagine how overrated HL2 is...

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Well it won Game of the Decade, if that helps

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+1

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And can you tell why?

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Because Half Life was originally released in the 90s?

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I thought HL2 was released in 2004

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I'm usually a stickler for playing games in order, but I played HL2 before I played HL1 because it was what was available to me. Even though I was completely confused on the backstory and stuff, it probably made me love the series even more because I really wanted to go back and figure it all out. It was almost like how a movie has flashbacks or tells a story in reverse. It can make for better story-telling.

Play them in the order you think you should. Both ways have their benefits.

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Downloaded Black Mesa - tomorrow I shall begin:D
Thanks guys:-)

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That was the right choice! :)

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wait for Black Mesa to be released on steam

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Why? It works using the Source SDK so it installs right into Steam as-is. Mine sits in library, and not as a "non-steam game".

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I think he said that because developers said it will include Xen by then.

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Yeh, but they also said they are trying to make Xen a fully expanded level and is a large project. Keep in mind that BM:S took like 9 years to make; the Xen expansion may be years away.

I'd say play what they have now, and just read the wiki or watch a YouTube video about the events of Xen. It's a very short (and kinda dull) part of HL1.

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Even the achievements work! :)

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That can still take years, you'd better play it right now and rerun if it's on steam. :)

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entered this thread to suggest you played black mesa as well!

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HL1 is better than its sequel.

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This. Finally somebody to agree with.

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Both have their own pro's and con's. I like both. It is just a matter of taste which of the two you prefer. But indeed, I like HL1 better.

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Spoiler: Gordon saves(destroys) the world(boxes) with a crowbar; candidate for god. Other candidates: Morgan Freeman, That rock, A bird I found, and my cat.

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HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT THE ALMIGHTY GABEN IS NOT A CANDIDATE FOR GOD

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Because Gaben is too humble to include himself in the game?

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Gaben is so *** that he doesn't fit into heaven.

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Well, God is omnipresent, isn't he?

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Play the goddamn original game. It's a must play, seriously, what are you doing here not having played it? And stop masturbating to graphic, never did anyone any good. Cheers.

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+1,000

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summary of the conversation so far:
Half-Life 1 > Half-Life: Source > Black Mesa: Source

In other words, Black Mesa sucks horribly while Half-Life 1 is a great game

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Why does BM suck?

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Watch out, we have a joker over here!

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Closed 11 years ago by thedoverkid.