We rolled out a few important updates to the site today.

  1. The first major change is the way contributor values are calculated. In short, the update limits giveaways that might have originated from a bundle to 20% of your total value (Note: Giveaways created prior to a bundle always receive full value). Please review the threads from earlier in the week for the full details. Keep in mind, we'll continue to improve this system as time goes on.

  2. There's no longer a restriction on what games can be given away, assuming they're not guest passes or beta keys. Anything found in the drop down menu when creating a giveaway is allowed. If you're gifting a game from a bundle, please review that bundle's terms of service to ensure you have permission to do so. If you believe a giveaway needs to be removed, please use the report button. There's no reason to post accusations in the comments, and users doing so may be suspended for inappropriate behavior. We'll review reported giveaways, and remove them if necessary. The new system will ensure contributor values are not overly inflated by bundle games.

Thanks to everyone in the community for all the feedback the past week, and I believe we created a system that's fair for everyone. It still leaves room for improvement, and there are a number of great suggestions in the previous thread we'll be exploring in the coming weeks.

12 years ago*

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good =) i like it

12 years ago
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БАХЧИСАРАЙ!!! ВПЕРЁД!!!

12 years ago
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not bad

12 years ago
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xaxa D:

12 years ago
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stealth bump

11 years ago
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Everyone always gives away the humble bundle games, and even states it, but humble bundle says 'keys are for personal use ONLY' and the gift option is for friends. Maybe that just means not to sell the key, but it can be given away... Or maybe not, the bundles seem to be going on, and being given away fine.

11 years ago
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I already emailed Humble Bundle support about this and they just directed me to the new gifting process. I guess that means as long as you don't sell them they're fine with it.

11 years ago
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좋네요

11 years ago
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annyeong haseyo

10 years ago
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:D

10 years ago
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:>

10 years ago
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;)

10 years ago
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:D

10 years ago
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O:)

10 years ago
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XD

10 years ago
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xD

10 years ago
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H

10 years ago
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Damn...

10 years ago
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Not true. I bought my directly through Steam. It was cheaper from Humble Bundle at the time, but I had money in my steam wallet which made it less out of my own pocket.

10 years ago
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The key i gift is not from the bundle, dumbass.

10 years ago
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?

10 years ago
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But they earn money on that so it do not depend who has that gift if 1 person can buy infinity amount of keys.

10 years ago
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это точно

10 years ago
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Indeed!

10 years ago
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Sounds like FUS RO DAH

11 years ago
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You made my day!

11 years ago
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+1)))))

10 years ago
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xD

10 years ago
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э좋네то тАРАЙ Во -+|}

10 years ago
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э좋네то тАРАЙ Во -+|}

10 years ago
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э좋네то тАРАЙ Во -+|}

10 years ago
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э좋네то тАРАЙ Во -+|}

10 years ago
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wat

10 years ago
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Ну ты и идиот. Потом удивляемся: почему никто русских не любит?!

11 years ago
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Почему это никто? Я русских люблю.

11 years ago
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И я !

11 years ago
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Why the fuck you have to bump this?

11 years ago
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o.0

11 years ago
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xD

10 years ago
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fuck you whore

10 years ago
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)

11 years ago
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ЗА ВСЮ ХУРМУ

11 years ago
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like

11 years ago
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:0

10 years ago
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like

10 years ago
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))

10 years ago
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отличный коммент. главное в тему

10 years ago
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=)

10 years ago
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ха)

10 years ago
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ха)

10 years ago
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Great, I hope this reduce the number of self centered jerks who just throw crap around.

12 years ago
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like

11 years ago
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Надо на Русском этот гайд.

11 years ago
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of course :D

11 years ago
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Как можно Русских не любить они ведь так много сделали хорошего,когда то...

10 years ago
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ok

10 years ago
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русским быть стыдно

10 years ago
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ничего не стыдно, живем же как-то

10 years ago
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Ну так вали в свою пиндосию, фашик

10 years ago
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no one care

10 years ago
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οτι να ναι γραφετε ε;

10 years ago
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The big problem is why would you buy a game to gift that's been in a bundle as you have no insentive to do so. I gifted xblades,chains and pinball dreams 3d which were purchesed and gifted over steam but got no contributor value for it even though it was not part of a bundle and I paid full price for it and would have to check against bundles before gifting any game bought from steam again

10 years ago
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+1

10 years ago
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Cool :)

10 years ago
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That is great news. thank you

10 years ago
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i like it too =]]

10 years ago
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дшлу

9 years ago
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haha

9 years ago
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Collapse distributed on russian forum board from buka.ru absolutely free, i think it is not fair that this game is in the statistics for their full value. thx

9 years ago
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Good~!

9 years ago
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12 years ago
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Go on...

12 years ago
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11 years ago
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"I shall have another!" +1 for referencing an awesome scene :p

11 years ago
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good

11 years ago
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Huiu

10 years ago
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The train is real l:3

9 years ago
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Nice :3

Thanks, guys.

12 years ago
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Indeed, very nice :3

12 years ago
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anytime

10 years ago
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Good

12 years ago
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thanks now we will see the new system in action I hope it will be solution to some problems.

12 years ago
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Deleted

This comment was deleted 11 months ago.

12 years ago
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Read 2. a little more closely. Completely depends on the TOS of the bundle and you could still get banned for posting giveaway for keys from bundles.

12 years ago
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Who reads that stuff really?

And no you won't get banned from Steamgifts for that. If there is a problem regarding that ToS, that is between the bumndle people and you, not the SG.

12 years ago
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Nono, it's like this - first 25$ worth of bundled games you giveaway will increase your contributor status at the games' full prices. Once you accumulate 25$ of bundled games giveaways then the system gives you 20% value of future bundled games that you give away. Hope I didn't write it too confusing :)

12 years ago
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Not quite. You can receive full value for bundle games, they just can't contribute to more than 20% of your total value. This means, if you post $1,000.00 in non-bundle games, you'll get full value for up to $200.00 (20% of $1,000.00) worth of bundles.

12 years ago
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You should put this post in a good place so everyone can easily access it. I started contributing to steamgifts, but didn't really get how it works with bundled games.
This example really explains it. Thanks!

11 years ago
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oO

10 years ago
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Ooh...i get it!

10 years ago
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Yeah, I kind of get it, sort of new to this website so yeah. Is there a thread for explaining the points system by any chance?

10 years ago
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I'm out of bundle keys ._.

Oh well

12 years ago
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cool :)

12 years ago
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Lets see what happens.

12 years ago
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the giveaways going down, nobody wants to make giveaways anymore.. :)

12 years ago
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got to agree, this sucks...
Limiting the value received from bundle keys will just make ppl less interested in giving away the keys they dont really want, now its more beneficial to add them to your own library to increase your library's value imo...
It would be reasonably if you would receive like 65% but they just went too far i think

11 years ago
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Too bad, I loved to click the "Report" Link over and over again for all the bundle Keys came up :(

12 years ago
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That was a game in itself!

12 years ago
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Find the bundle keys!!!

12 years ago
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Great.

12 years ago
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And what about all those DOTA2 asian only keys?

12 years ago
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as Brazilians would say - hue hue hue

12 years ago
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HUEHUEHEUHEUEHUEHEUHEUEHEUHUEHEUEHBRBR

12 years ago
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hue hue hue est numero uno :3

12 years ago
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huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue

11 years ago
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HUHUHUHUHU

10 years ago
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huehuehuehue Quem transa nessa porra?

9 years ago
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and what happens if I give away Bastion (giftable) after it appeared in a bundle? Its value decreased also?

12 years ago
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Yes

12 years ago
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For the greater good.

12 years ago
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:< :okay:

12 years ago
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It's value will only decrease if more than 20% of your existing gifts have originated from bundles, otherwise, you'll receive full value for it. For example, if you posted $75.00 in non-bundle games, you'll get the $15.00 value for Bastion since the value from bundles is equal to 20% or less of $75.00.

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What about games (eg VVVVVV) that aren't available to gift as a single key? Are they also reduced (assuming you've reached your limit for bundle games)?

12 years ago
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People still abuse it, even though you are giving away more games with one key. So yes it's deflated and on the list: http://www.steamgifts.com/bundles/list

12 years ago
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Thanks.

12 years ago
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Thanks

10 years ago
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Hopefully this works out for the site.

12 years ago
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But aren't most bundles against giving away the keys? Is this going to be enforced? If so for which?

12 years ago
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In other words, rather than a blanket rule against posting bundle keys, they're going to handle it on a case-by-case basis. Some bundles outright state you're allowed to split up your keys. Others specifically state you cannot do it. And some bundles don't say anything either way.

12 years ago
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It would probably be helpful to add the infos about whether the bundle-seller are clearly allowing or clearly prohibiting a split up to the bundle-games-list to prevent extra work (by unneccessary reports) for the staff.

12 years ago
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Yeah that would be nice, somebody who are good at reading TOS' should figure out what bundles allow keys to be given away.

12 years ago
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This doesn't change the rules against giving gift passes and such, right? The only restrictions being lifted are the bundle key rules, if I'm reading that right.

12 years ago
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That's right, you can't give away guest passes at this time.

12 years ago
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I thought so, just wanted to make sure.

Thanks for your hard work, cg. Thanks to the mods, too.

12 years ago
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So can people giveaway separate indie gala bundle keys now?

12 years ago
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Yep, but they'll only get contributor value equal to $25 plus 20% of their non-exploitable keys.

12 years ago
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this is worded much better than the official text. Cheers, I didn't understand what "20% of your value" meant, whether it was gifted or owned on Steam (as there's a $100 value requirement to use Steam Gifts or something)
Confirming $25+20% of bundle key values is right.

I've given $9.99 then $9.99, both bundle keys, and was at $19.98, no reductions. Confused me a lot. Added a $29.99 bundle key, and only went up to $30. That makes sense now. ($9.99 + 9.99 + 29.99)*0.2 + $25 = $30 (rounded up).

10 years ago
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I dont get it. What should i do with keys wich i received as sweet doing trading. Idk if they are from bundles or from any developers. Im gonna still give them away for small group people so i hope u wont ban me.

12 years ago
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As long as they aren't beta keys, you're good.

12 years ago
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I've noticed that Aquaria is marked as exploited.

This is a problem, as Aquaria has never been given away by itself. All the keys it's been in were keys for entire copies of Humble Bundle #1 (as in, you get one key from the entire bundle, and it activates Aquaria, and Braid, and Lugaru, et cetera). Same thing with all the other Humble Bundles, actually; there are no Humble Bundles that have keys for single games which are not beat-the-average (and, therefore, non-exploitable) keys. Giving away a Humble Bundle key is (usually) the same as giving away an unused URL, just without the DRM-free links.

Aquaria is hardly ever given away as is, and it's horribly underplayed.

12 years ago
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Yes, please fix this. Aquaria is not exploited and is very underplayed.

12 years ago
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I had the same initial reaction and pointed it out in the original thread, but cg made a good point in response: apparently, people were listing entire bundle keys as a single game in the bundle in order to get more value out of it. He pointed to the stats page for Amnesia, and it's pretty hard to argue against that graph.

12 years ago
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And in response to that, it was pointed out that if, say, an account had Aquaria, but not Braid, or Lugaru, or whatever-else-it-was-that-was-inseparably-linked-to-it, then it clearly did not come from that bundle. (It would just require more coding and more complicated maintenance, and of course, it wouldn't help if the account got all the other games through different means.)

12 years ago
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The "more coding" part would be an automated receive check, if I got that right. That could be a pain in the ass to realise, and just to calculate the values better. As you pointed out, there are still possibilities the games in the library could be interpreted in a wrong way.

12 years ago
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...While I can understand this, I've already made enough giveaways of games considered to be exploited that I'm seriously pushing my limit for exploited games I can get value from. Aquaria never goes on sale, and I don't feel like paying full price to give away a game I'm not getting any points for, even if it happens to be my favorite game ever. I don't make enough money to do that.

12 years ago
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I should say, ban they.
I waited to giveaway my torchlight, and got less points, cause i would never dream of it being in a humble bundle. =/
The humble bundle ones are the only ones that I don't agree with the downgrade, the others I have no complains.

12 years ago
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS FINALLYYYYYYYYYYY!!! :D

What about Ravaged/IGN keys though?

12 years ago
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IGN Keys were never a problem and nothing new was mentioned about them recently, so I guess nothing changes on that front. You can give them away freely, but The Game gifted will be marked as 'bundled' if it happen to be in one of bundles in the past. But yeah, that's my conclusion, not official statement.

12 years ago
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wow only gave away 3 budle key but gave away alot of IGN keys last week was $188 now its $98 3 FUCKING KEYS this site is shit

12 years ago
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I'm sure cg will process a refund for your registration fees and monthly subscription fees promptly.

12 years ago
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very fucking funny

12 years ago
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"Oh no, I might not get as much contributor value as I'd hoped by giving away free things. Now I might not be able to enter as many contributor giveaways and get more free things."

This site is shit indeed.

12 years ago
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Indeed, this site is shit for moronic people. It's a feature under very active development as you can see! :)

12 years ago
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Lol, brilliant reply :)

12 years ago
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Haha thank you :)

12 years ago
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So do full bundle giveaways count as normal giveaways (since they are already discounted) or do they fall into the 20% bundle key thing?

12 years ago
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Looks like they do count as normal giveaways, you may want to clarify this in your explanation of how the contributions now work for bundle keys.

12 years ago
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cool

12 years ago
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Very nice, thanks !

12 years ago
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Thank you ;-)

12 years ago
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