Are the changes and new limitations good in your opinion?
The marketplace was created so that people could trade, not systematically profit from the store and in-game items. If an individual happens to make a trade that is profitable, then that's fair game. If they try to set it up so that they make regular profits by slipping through gaps in store pricing or by effectively reselling in bulk, then really what did they expect?
Yes the delay is inconvenient, but does it really stop legitimate trades from taking place?
Hell, does it even stop suppliers? Not that I can see. It just gives Valve a grace period that will help when tackling with stolen or scammed items, as well as to look into bulk buys/trades.
People get pissed off about theft and scamming, yet they also simultaneously get pissed off when measures are taken to try curb this. You can't have it BOTH ways. It's also worth considering what other online launcher/DRM allows you to TRADE like this?
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Hmm yes i see your point. And i indeed see why they did that. Maybe i should have worded it differently, it really doesn't piss me off. It's, like you said, more of an inconvenience to me at least. The changes don't stop me from trading up, it just makes it a bit more difficult. I am a legitimate trader myself and i haven't exploited the market in any way or form, I don't know about my buyers/sellers tho.
Oh, also, thanks for a long well written and thought-out reply!
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I don't like it, but I won't deny that this is good and a good decision. It's just annoying is all.
Like I made a trade with a person from a week ago and i'm still waiting for the CS:GO they're going to trade me to finally become tradeable >_>
Plus I liked to trade instantaneously. So if I saw a copy of FLY'N I wanted and it was a good deal. BOOM! I could buy a tour a duty ticket and give it to them instantly and have the game. Now it's a giant game of risk, I buy a key and then the game I was going to trade it for has gone up in key worth or I can't find good deals anymore. It's frustrating, I can't get traders to be willing to save the key since for obvious reasons. They're just going to give it to whoever has it available.
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Yup, that's what it is. It's extremely inconvenient but also makes the market itself more secure. And helps valve deal with scammers and exploiters. Looks like you just have to stock up on keys now :P
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This change requires you to maintain a stock on hand of Keys, TODs, or whatever else you trade with. Stock up an extra week's worth and you will be good to go from then on.
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I believe the change limits short-run price variation profiteering and stabilizes the market prices of most items. I also think the effects on regular traders would have been minimal after an initial investment period and plenty of warning was given. All traders should have known weeks prior to the change that they would have to increase their stock on hand. While I agree this means taking on the risk that their customers had been assuming, it is a much reduced risk due to the increased price stability added to the markets.
That being said, I thought the main point of the change was to stop chargeback fraud, preventing people from paying for something, trading it away, then disputing or cancelling the charge, often using stolen or loadable charge cards and hijacked accounts. This type of thing causes huge chains of returned items and anyone who involves real money ends up losing.
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Yup, that's exactly what i was thinking about. I just couldn't find enough words to put into a nice post. It causes a lot of inconvenience but also makes the market more secure and also stabilises it.
Thanks for a well written response! Also, i admire your English. :)
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I don't really mind it as there are other sources for keys that are instantly tradeable. They're cheaper than the marketplace too.
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Well traders mostly who are selling their keys.
There's a lot of them active at the SourceOP forums, a few on Steamtrades and some who sell for bitcoin over at dispenser.tf but you've obviously got to be careful and do your homework as to who you're dealing with.
Then not so great a price but still better than the marketplace there's the likes of tf2shop.net
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Hehehe, nice. It comes with a risk tho, but i see what you mean ;)
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I used to buy in game keys and trade for profit
Bought some last hour 7 day cooldown
Thanks volvo >.>
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So by now most of you traders must've noticed or heard about the changes. Now items and keys bought either from the In-game store or market will be un-tradable for a week. This kind of infuriates me, but i see that it makes the market more secure. I had established a sure way to make profits by buying and selling Asiimovs. Now both, my sellers and buyers are having difficulties getting the items. My seller can no longer buy Asiimovs from market and my buyer can no longer buy keys from In-game store. I see that it causes a lot of inconvenience for traders, but at the same time it makes the market safer for us. So what do you, traders, think about the new changes? Do the new limitations change the way you trade? I also put up a poll.
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