you can use ASF instead. but the same thing applies. (as far as i know)
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o.O 2 hours agin up? Any random game idled yesterday and takes 2,1 hours to drop 3 cards.. (STCG is my tool) same as all other but manual and without login into Steam yes mate under me i know its not important what soft :)
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If he's ever done a refund on a game, they put him in a 2hr wait for card drop category if I'm not mistaken..
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Correct. If you refund a game, the two-hour wait period gets enabled automatically.
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Which sucks for me because I refunded a game I never even activated and I have to wait 2 hours :/
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Weird, I think I also need the 2+ hours, but as far as I remember I haven't refunded anything. Maybe steam just doesn't like me :)
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I have never used the Steam refund system & I have to wait 2 hours.
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I have never used the Steam refund system & I have to wait 2 hours.
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I think there must be some hidden parameter somewhere. When my wife and I run the same game for the same cards i usually get my cards around 3-4 times faster than she does. We both run it the old fashioned way, it's very weird.
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If you've ever done a refund on a game, they put you in a 2hr wait for card drop category if I'm not mistaken..
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An ex. a game with 3 cards can take me 30m-1hr to get all cards, the same game takes my wife 6-8 hours it makes no sense. We are not even running the game at the same time, same pc or anything it's crazy.
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6-8 hours usually means you are trying to run more than one game at the same time. It immediately imposes a card drop time multiplier and can disable card drops altogether.
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She only run that one game, i know the drop rate drops alot if you run more games.
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Yeah , I feel you - I Only have to idle a game to get the cards if I am not going to play right away, as I have them for most of my games.
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Jesus, It doesn't matter what soft you will use it's all steam when card drop, some games have to be played 2h prior to card drop (especialy bought gifts that are subject to refund) some not, no matter what will you use you will always wait, and there are also games that intentionally take way more then most to idle. It's just the way things are, complain to valve. End of topic.
Thanks for GA :)
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It's not Valve that sets the longer drop periods, that is asked by the publisher/indie developer. Normally it is ~30 minutes/drop, but the one who put up the game can modify it. In case of games that'd take 20-30 hours to finish, it is quite understandable to drop a card every 60-90 minutes or so.
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What i meant was that regardless soft you use you will still have to wait the time that is mandatory. Soft can speed up and automate farming but will never reduce this time. Also I've never told that " Valve that sets the longer drop periods". Complain to valve mean that after all they put on minimum that must be waited. Publisher cannot reduce it to 0. Please dont put never spoken words into my mouth. Cheers though :)
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True. Although it has to be mentioned that if a user never refunded a game, there should be no wait time imposed on the account now, card drop timer should start counting when the game is started.
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Yea, I totaly agree, or at least you know some sort of check box that you can resign from refund option and start card drop timer right away. Well who know maybe some day :)
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Jesus, It doesn't matter what soft you will use
Q: Is ASF faster than Idle Master?
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I don't farm cards in mass quantities either, but I still have ASF running on my server 24/7 and farming everything I redeem on my primary account, so I don't have to do anything to make those cards drop. IM is nice and user friendly, but much less efficient, supports only Windows, can't handle more than one account and has many steam client limitations, such as being unable to have any anti-fuckup mechanisms that ASF includes, to restart the process even if Steam network goes down etc.
In fact, ASF was created to address some IM limitations, but primary objective was to be able to run on my Linux server 24/7, so on my PC I can have steam client and nothing else.
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You can use it also for farming played hours, with manual farming mode. But yeah, primary objective is farming steam cards, so it's little to no useful for you if you don't use that feature.
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No real reason, really. Although some people kept asking me to add such feature to raise their e-dongs :3.
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ASF supports Windows, Linux, OS X, Playstation 3, Nintendo Wii, iPhone and many other OSes
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Yea i've tried it some time ago but the difference is close to 0 in my case so i decided to throw it away and back to already years long tried and trusted solution like IM.
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It's side effect, and not the main objective of using ASF.
The interrupts that are happening with normal steam client and idle master have negligible effect on the card drops, so it's not any noticable difference that would make ASF superior.
But it's always nice to say "yeah my software is faster" :3.
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Hehe well, what can I say, I still stay ground that it doesn't make difference, and even if it's so slight that like you said not noticeable. Without difference i personaly prefer to keep with IM :)
However ofc total kudos for your work and keep it up ! :)
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Regarding this subject, i noticed during this month that the amount of time each game requires to drop cards is different. There were 2 games i idled this month where the cards started to drop on 30 minutes. In the same time, there was 1 game which started to drop cards after 4 hours although i restarted idlemaster a couple of times to verify that it is not bugged! I have no clue what caused that.
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Card drop timing can be modified, and some publishers/developers use this. Most leave it at the default setting though, even if it means that the card drop time is longer than the entire play time…
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It's worth nothing two things. One, if you've ever refunded a game, you get to wait 2hrs from that point on for cards if I remember right.
Second, it is semi-random. So sometimes you will, even without that 2hr wait, end up waiting 4hrs or so for drops. I had that happen this past week when I finally used ASF to get all my cards. 4 hrs, NADA, then 4 drops in an hour.
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Nothing=noting*.
I only ever refunded a game once, it's how i have idlemaster set, to idle games simultaneously up to 2 hours, then individually, not sure if any matter in the long run.
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ASF has a bit smarter algorithm used for restricted accounts, which may help you to farm cards more effectively. Check out Complex algorithm.
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the +2hours on every game + the drop rate x/hours set by the game-devs
best Idle Master Setting > idle games simultaneously for 2 hours then individually
^ works best for me ...
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That's how i have set it too yeah, but everytime you get new games it waits those 2 hours again.
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You should choose "Idle games with more then 2 hours individually, then simultaneously".
That way you can stock up on games while you finish idling the one's with more then 2 hours. The stock will then idle it's 2 hours simultaneously. Saves you 2 hours per game.
Also, what I did when my backlog got bigger instead of smaller, was to setup a raspberry pi with Raspbian, mono and ASF and just left it running over night. Uses as little power as charging a phone and completed about 3 games per night
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All hail ASF being capable to run even on toasters!
Farm those steam cards while you're making yourself a breakfast
I use ASF only on my Linux server being powered on 24/7, so it can farm my primary account transparently while I do usual stuff, it's excellent.
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Right now, waiting for 93 cards, so yeah....it take long. But nothing to do about it.
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i need farm cards to sell them and buy another games with cards :D
this never ends
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i have been running it for a week straight and still have 2200 cards to drop...really should have started this sooner.
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And selling certain others takes even longer... Lol.
I took maybe 2 weeks to farm ~560 cards, online 24/7, using ASF. Can't remember exact game count. About 110?
Still have 91 of those left on the market, plus about 10 I'm keeping to eventually collect. So actually done well, considering I was putting them up on virtually a daily basis (using SIH), checking for overpriced every 2~3 days, currently running a check now.
Some of them aren't overpriced though, just market saturated, several hundreds at the same price, but can only check for that manually which takes forever. Might do so eventually. The worse culprits are the FOIL cards. The cheaper ~20pence ones (about 35cents, I guess?) haven't been too bad. Then I have two others, on the market for days already, but priced high by default.
17 for sale starting at £1.20 - Golden Temple (Foil) - Go! Go! Nippon! ~My First Trip to Japan~ Foil Trading Card (~$1.69)
7 for sale starting at £1.77 - The Village (Foil) - Winter Voices Foil Trading Card (~$2.50)
Nice chunks for cards, but its still tempting to half them, or maybe trade them off. I want the steam wallet... lol. Upto about $31 equivalent from card sales from the 470 or so sold, with the rest still to sell, minus the foils above, about another $4~5 to come. Get a nice game or six, depending what I actually picked up.) Had nothing to start with, maybe a couple cents. Probably have still more to drop, but I don't enter for "any" game, nor pick up "any" game for myself at Tremor. Not a mass-collector just for that +1 game.
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Idle master keeps bugging and never stops the 2 hour multi idle. I have like 10 houra on games I tried to idle when I was sleeping. I have 2 left, and as long as idle master doesn't mess up like usual I should be done by the time I get home.
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I saw someone with the same issue. Are you using the portable version and maybe not the most current one? That was the suggested cause if I remember correctly
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It's been bugging out for me as well, over the past couple of weeks.
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Buggy Idlemaster is the reason I switched to ASF. Works better for the most part, although sometimes bugs creep in as well. Though props to Archi for a pretty rapid release cycle.
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Yep, that's why ASF has some anti-fuckups implemented and assumes that game is fully farmed even if steam doesn't drop any cards in given time (IIRC it's 6 or 9 hours currently), so farming process won't stop because of one bugged game or new steam badge.
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You just need to stop buying games, its as simple as that :P
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The last I tried its still 2 hours per card. However there seems to be a desync issue with the server. Especially when you use programs like idlemaster that screw up when you run multiple games at once.
Similarly if you idle a game while playing another game it frequently messes up.
Just restart the full cycle (turn everything off and on again) and then make sure you don't run multiple things at once.
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I'd probably kill myself if I had to restart idle master every time I run the game. I feel sorry for people still using idle master needing to do such silly things :3.
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While I can see part of your point - it seems that you (like most others) are missing the point of the program.
Its supposed to be used to idle - not while actively using Steam.
I don't know why restarting it works or why it desynchronizes as it does. I just know that Steam has a habit of failing its sync status if you do not. Note that this is a problem with Steam, not with Idlemaster.
And it seems to do this regardless when you run more than one game at a time.
The main reason restarting Idlemaster itself is necessary is that whenever I restarted Steam it would subsequently lose its own sync with your game at which point it would 'idle' the games without it actually doing anything at all.
But the main problem of no cards being turned out every 2 hours is actually with Steam itself and I can only assume its something Valve implemented to stop people from trying to generate cards by running dozens of games at once.
Not to mention the refund policy.
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the 2 hours before cards thing sucks, but I guess for some people it's worth it because they want their refunds and all...
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Its kinda weird tbh.
I Idled bunch of games last week , and weirdly they all ware droping cards every 30-40 min ( was taking ~2h to get 3 cards ) w/o needing to idle it up to 2h .
Now when i try to idle cards , they start droping after 2h .
To be fair i got used to idle stuff together for 2h , and then getting a card per hour ...
Tho idle master seems to get bugged alot lately .
Sadly the alternative is in some alien language , and i just dont understand it :c
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Yeah I just gave up on card farming, I still have 502 cards remaining to drop lol
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you do realize you spend more money on electricity than if you would buy them on steam:)
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Yeah but it's a waste not to idle them when you have them, i won't keep my pc on especially to farm, it's already on anyway.
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Do anyone know when or if Steam reverts back the 2 hours rule after a refund? My last refund request was during the last week of December last year.
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I think you don't need to wait 2 hrs anymore or that what happened to me, i buy insurgeny in the last bundle that was uncluded and after idling without multiple idle i got all the cards after 1.8 hours.
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Idle as many games as possible each time to ~1-2 hours, once you've got all games on about 1-2h, Run Idlemaster and set it to run each game individually. Then click next every 1-2 sec in the app, and the cards will start flowing in one by one. I've farmed about 700 cards in a few hours doing that (after the first 1-2h on all games have been reached)
Maybe this is something that should be added to ASF/Idlemaster etc. :) Just saying cuz it works every time.
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Yeah that's how it works for a few months now, but it wasn't always like that, especially not 11 months ago..
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Yes i am using Idlemaster, but everytime you get new games, you wait 2 hours again.
I pretty much have the pc on for 16 hours everyday (Don't think i'd even get 10 cards a day), but usually my total card amount to idle increases rather then decreases.
Yeah i guess maybe it's a luxury problem, i don't know.
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