it been bothering me for a while now. Ever since for borderlands 2, I've notice a slight difference in prices. For example dishonored is on sale for $20 ish for US but still $33 on steam for Australians. WHY!?!?!?!?!

Why are the prices so unfair?

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UK is 10% cheaper than US and Canada.
Russia is (usually) 50% cheaper than UK.
Europe is 33% more expensive than UK.

(could you guess i'm from the UK)

But yes, prices are screwed all over

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Price should be universal. I have to pay more each time I purchase a game plus Australian internet isn't that great :(

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It's not worse than 4 Megabits DL and 0.3 UP

So please

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I've got 1.5MB/SEC Download and 60 KB / SEC Upload...

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4 megabits translates to 500kbps download rate, as for the upload, it is saddening

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Its exchange, go to your back website and see what an australian dollar is worth in other counties, might clear it up. Im in canada, I pay US price, but I get charged the exchange on it though paypal.

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I've seen EA do 15$ and 50€, I see no logic behind it lol

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EA games in Australia is probability the most expensive retail for games in Australia. It weird, a company that sells only games, charges people the most for them. They have a policy where if you find a cheaper copy of a game they'll match the price. When you tell them you've seen it cheaper, the sale assistances there don't even bother challenging you on it. cause they know their prices are highest in the market. But with that said they're the only store to offer the pre purchase bonus.

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I'd say the US and Canada is 10% cheaper than the UK.

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Usually a triple A title goes for $50 average? That works out to around £32. Whereas we pay £30 usually. I know it's a small amount, but we are cheaper.

As for the tax thing below. We pay 20% tax, i'm not sure if that adds to your theory?

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Well, really it depends on what you're buying. Sometimes we pay less, sometimes we pay more.

And yes, the 20% VAT does add to my theory. I believe it's higher than sales tax.

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from wikipedia: vat in europe has a minimum(minimum?! not cap?) of 15, and is 20 in uk. amazon adds 6% sales tax for america(they assume you're from connecticut)

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In canada we pay the exchange, I pay in canadian but my paypal gets charged what ever the american exchange is, usually a few cents more on the dollar

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Might have something to do with GST (tax). UK has low tax rates. Sweden for example taxes 25% on goods and services, so their prices would naturally be higher. Australia has a low 10% GST but the wages are extremely high so AU prices are usually the biggest in comparison to the rest, because the average Joe can afford to pay a bit more. Hope that answers your question.

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Are you sure you are looking only at the base game price? Dishonored is U$20 for the base but around ~U$30 with all DLC, at least in my country (Brazil).

PS: BTW, most of the games in Brazil are about 10% cheaper than US.

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You will be buying games for everyone on Steamgifts now? If they're ROW at least?

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This. My price check below was done there (here, w/e).

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Because Australian customers are used to paying more, so even though they are the same income as the US, companies can charge more. Aus. (and Europe) are used to paying more for things than Americans because in the US, economies of scale, massive higway/commercial railway network, cheap fuel and a large industrial base make the cost of physical goods incredibly cheap (especially in a developed country).

So as a result, digital good prices have to reflect retail prices or people will not buy them.

And then there's the situation where poorer countries have lower prices simply because nobody could afford the same price as developed nations pay. However, those lower priced countries alone could not actually fund game development so publishers have to sell at a higher price where possible to maintain profitability. This is also why most games you buy are heavily American/western European in their outlook and appeal -- those customers are the most lucrative.

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I stopped reading at "or people will not buy them.".... if prices were lower for me (Non american), I would buy the hell out of them.

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agreed

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See my reply right below here.

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I think he meant people wouldn't buy retail... But that's just my guess.

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See my reply right below here.

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-_- ... He was talking about the price of digital goods in the US, and explaining why their price (or rather valuation) must match retail prices - because otherwise Americans' expectations (formed by what they're used to) wouldn't be met and far less sales would be made. Learn2read.

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I'm guessing he meant Americans wouldn't buy digital games if they were more expensive than in retail. Same goes for Russia, CIS and Brazil - the other regions that get lower prices. In comparison Europe and Australia have expensive/nonexistent retail markets, so digital distributors can get away with charging more than in the US.

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I guess I didn't understand because around here even if the game on Steam matched the price of the rest of the world, it would still be cheaper than retailers. >_<

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Same income? Isn't the minimum wage in Australia much higher than in the USA?

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Way higher, pretty much double....

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Prices are different all over the globe. It's US$ 18.75 around here and US$ 27.13 with all the DLC.

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$30 without any DLC and around $42 with all DLC. basically x1.5 more then the US

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because average income in Australia is bigger

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Yep

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lol

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And Poland (and probably some other countries too) pays same amount of money for everything as whole EU...

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Spain is on the same level as UK or Australia.

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It's not just steam games, it's everything. We pay more than the US for most things. I was having a conversation with someone about it the other day and he reckoned that we pay more here because we get better quality stuff, where the US pays less and gets not-as-good quality things, but I don't completely agree. You can buy the exact same products here a lot of the time at triple the cost.

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It's simply because publishers have found Australians will pay more. If you know about the price gouging, you can just buy games imported or digitally at some online stores for more reasonable prices.

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Activision is the worst. CoD/D3 launch price set in stone at $90. Even Ninty's only $68 max.

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A while ago, Unreal Indie Bundle come at Brazil for $25.00 BRL, and in the USA it was $20.00 USD, $1.00 USD = $2.14 BRL
The prices change according to the region and it's purchasing power

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Well, no. There are only 3 price regions that get things cheaper. The rest of the world gets either the same price as the US or even higher. And US citizens have the highest purchasing power.

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The difference between all the different prices in each reason is because taxes, licensing, and the value of the currency.

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We Eurofags have worst prices. Somehow Steam thinks 1 USD = 1€, which is NOT

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From what I know, I still think Australia has worse prices than us.

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Why in the fucking hell are you blaming Steam, eh?

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Why "the fucking hell" do you think this has nothing to do with steam? Valve has total control over their store/distribution system, and nothing happens on it without their say so. The buck, 100 "fucking" percent, stops with valve/ steam. All pricing that happens on the store is completely down to valve, and this 1 dollar = 1 euro shit is completely supported by valve, as is price gouging.

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All pricing that happens on the store is completely down to the publishers

Fixed.

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Hello sir do you have a minute to talk about GMG, our wallet savior?

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I am in Euro Tier 2 and some prices are like that which anger me a lot, but others are cheaper.

But most of the games follow the 1 USD = 1 EUR logic

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Life ain't fair and your explanation is awfully wrong ;)

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which still is not "steams" doing

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I don't know, tell me why in NYC(Expensive as hell to live here might I add) I am getting paid 7.25 minimum wage an hour when in Australia its like 16 an hour? I would gladly trade you my lower game prices for your minimum wage in a heart beat.

:-)

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yea lowering the minimum wages will lower the price of everything, sick of paying $3 for a can of soft drink at school. Even school are cashing in on this :(

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3 dollars for a drink isn't odd in NYC also but we get paid 7.25 for minimum, you get paid 16 about for minimum wage, my point was you probably should not complain about games costing a bit more when unemployment and pay isn't so bad in your area from what I gather.

Thats all, nothing is perfect also, every place has disadvantages, Money value here doesn't = Money value somewhere else, etc...etc...

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You're getting $7.25? So sweet. I'm getting $2.25. And I have to pay in Euros which is 1:1 to US prices.

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Its not much here, I can't even save enough to move out...so yeah.

Where do you live btw?

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You are clueless, you have no idea how good you live compared to others. In Serbia you get 1.5 USD per hour, and prices of goods are even higher than american, with of course worse quality. And we pay liter of gas 1.88 USD. So you should enjoy Hilary.

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Whoa, did I say anywhere that other places were not worse? Hell I know other places are much worse, problem is people are still starving on the wages here and yeah your right much worse in other places, worlds an unfair place, the point to my post was if your getting paid more in one area, stop complaining about a price hike on unessential things like games....

I asked where he lived out of curiosity, you took my posts way out of context and made them into something they were not, stop reading between the lines to the point that things start to form that aren't even there.

Btw gas is like 3-4 dollars a gallon here...but whatever. I don't think you know how much stuff cost here so you are also clueless. :-)

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3-4 dollars for gallon. Gallon is 3.78541 liter. So you pay liter of gas 1 dollar.

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Read that as gallon, my mistake, my point still remains, you are nitpicking and making something out of nothing still, thanks for ignoring the rest of my post. I do have an idea, a very good one actually since I studied other countries and cultures....never said I didn't have it better then others(Thats obvious I think to anyone that has a second to think about it), you just like to assume things.

Since you can't read paragraphs properly here is this to sum it up.

"Hell I know other places are much worse"

"point to my post was if your getting paid more in one area, stop complaining about a price hike on unessential things like games...."

"I asked where he lived out of curiosity"

"stop reading between the lines to the point that things start to form that aren't even there. "

Have a nice day.

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I'm surprised by the lack of sweeping statements and stereotypes about Australia, so here's a template to help you.

+Because [insert comment about good weather, bbq, cute girls here]
Or
-Because [history of convicts, stealing, balancing things out]

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Prices in Russia and Brazil are lower because of high piracy rates.

Prices in Australia are higher because the populace is too busy fighting off feral huntsman spiders and rabid eucalyptus leaves to realize how badly they're getting screwed over.

Is that better?

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Much.
This thread was far too sensible before this comment.

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-1 you forgot the dropbears... shame on you

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big compinies like too fuck australia

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dark souls US=$40, dark souls AU/NZ=$70... or even worse... Lord of the Rings:war in the north US=$20, in AU/NZ=$74...

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100 usd for black ops 2, woo!!

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Because valve supports price gouging. Any other suggested reason is bullshit.

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they have a deal with gamestop (which is ebgames in australia). to keep in good with the US branch they had to do something

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€ FTW!!! :/

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Let's look at it in different way. I have to work circa 23 hours for a premiere game at full Steam price, with a salary typical for a low level public servant, half the average salary in my country and 1,3 of minimal wage.

How many working hours AAA class game costs you?

Oh, BTW, 16-18 out of 20 working days in month goes to paying the bills, which explains why I rarely buy games more expensive than a gallon of gas/90 minutes of work :P.

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3 or 4 hours.

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Dang.

Don't get me wrong, I know how unfair the prices seem. I'm in the Europe, so I have to pay more than Americans do. But I'd still trade your salaries and prices for mine. Everything is overpriced here. I have quite decent pay for my country. Many people here can't pay all the bills having full-time job. Most live with their parents like I do, cause they can't afford their own place. Some have a second, illegal job to pay their rent.

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The kangaroo tax is to blame. According to Australian laws every game that doesn't feature a kangaroo (or at least 2 koalas) as either protagonist, NPC, race or weapon should pay additional taxes.

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And I fully agree with them.

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All steam is unfair.
Why countires like POLAND, CZECH REPUBLIK, HUNGARY must pay in EURO?, when they have own currency (PLN,CZK,HUF) they should pay in own currency or in dollars.
Why prizing in PL,CZ,HU Steam Shop is 4x highest than in local gameshops?.

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Dude,in that case,India;where I live) has its own currency too.Thing is that only few countries are considered important enough to pay in their own currency.Atleast,unlike others I get the same price as America!

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I know this pain...

Call of Duty Black Ops 2
Steam (EU1 ALL Countries + EU2 ALL C.)region : 60 euro
Localshop ( POLAND): 100130 PLN (26 euro)
localshop (GERMANY): 50
70 EURO

Mothly sallary starts :
at GERMANY: from <1000 EURO
at POLAND: from 540 PLN (130 EURO) (when minimal is 1700PLN = 400 EURO, but many poles work less than minimal, and this is normal)
Where is cheapest?, at steam, or in localgameshop for german/polish?

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Ye our country - Poland sucks. :(

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Gabe is racist. I heard he got dumped by an Australian before.

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Ebgames.

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So? $100 for Metro and other new games like this. $99 for FIFA 13 on it's start.

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Ebgames are the main retailers in Aus. They set the price of games.

And why did you dig up a week old thread?

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