its worse when you find out how many are signing it.
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Some people deserve exactly what they get. As long as imbeciles like these are gleefully tripping over each other to lube up and bend over, gamers will continue to get shafted by the big corporations.
The fact that individuals like this even exist gives me fundamental doubts about some of Darwin's theories.
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hopefully these kind of anti consumer people will be weeded out very soon.
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There are evolutionary dead ends in the theory you know. :)
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With the advent of technology and modern medicine, 'survival of the fittest' ceased to be a major decider in survival.
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It is a troll. The poll, or at least all of the latest comments are troll comments.
That's all well and funny, but Microsoft isn't that smart, and if 2,000 people are making a joke about them that they don't get, I shudder to think what could happen.
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According to the top 5 "reasons for signing" it is.
http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-give-us-back-the-xbox-one-we-were-promised-at-e3-2
(I dunno how to do the clicky on this site)
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Is formatted like
[Link][]()(http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-give-us-back-the-xbox-one-we-were-promised-at-e3-2)
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I wonder how many of those that signed work for microsoft.
I further wonder who among them could create a bot designed to sign a petition lots of times.
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My co-worker was actually talking about this today. His attitude was that, as a console gamer, he wanted his own "Steam." So instead of getting a PC, he pre-ordered an Xbox One and signed a petition like that >_<
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Looooool for the same price as that Xbox one, he could've just built a decent PC and have actual Steam xD
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Tempted to sign it for lulz. Not buying the Bone either way, but I would laugh if they 180'd again. A 360 seems fitting after all...
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What I don't get is why people are still pissed at Microsoft for the DRM issues. Sure you might not be happy with the new system, but what is the point of hating on what they did?
People voted with their wallets and WON. We should be proud and excited, not pissed at what they tried to do. Who knows maybe on the next gen it will happen and our attitude's will change.
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Eeeeh, I wouldn't sign it but I do see where they're coming from. I definitely agree that people were uninformed about the Xbone DRM. The benefits of such things weren't outlined very well at all and as such, people only saw the bad side of it. MS was trying to get ahead by offering things that the PS4 couldn't - always online would mean greater cloud capabilities which in turn would allow for bigger and better gaming. I hate, HATE the trade/swap/sell restrictions though. I can't decide if I am for or against always online because in my country, our internet isn't very good and I'd hate to be unable to use my xbox because of that... but if our internet was good I'd be pretty much all for it. I think eventually always online will be unavoidable anyway. shrugs
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That said, there is only one conclusion to this subject, xbox One belongs to another generation, not this one. The internet connection in most advanced countries still needs to make a strong approach in a country wide connection that is fast, stable and accessible to everyone.
For example i saw some news not long ago that pointed out that internet technology innovation in our country should be spread out equally through the territory, the goal was to give everyone in the country access to an internet connection with at least 8Mb no matter where they were, this by 2020. Yes, you read that right, 2020. We are in 2013, if it takes that long to do this in a small country, i don't see xbox one being a legit product to be sold worldwide as alot of the costumers can't get a good internet access and most of the time rely on offline console gaming instead.
And btw i call BS on this innovation plan, promises are something that are never fullfilled in this world, when made by people with power over something valuable in society, and this is one of those cases i believe.
This is just to show how and when xbox one should have actually be developed and brought to the market, kinda obvious Microsoft failed miserably since they split up their customers into groups and made fun of the offline portion by saying "you have the 360 for offline gaming, now shut up and go play it.".
This simply shows that rich people are freaking stupid and have no knowledge on the things they do, they only think about getting more money and milking those who have advanced/top nodge technology, while this DRM process could have been a big hit in the gaming industry, the gaming industry itself wasn't ready yet to be impacted with such changes to console gaming, they buried their own grave with this and acted like retards instead of coming up with a better plan to suit everyone's needs.
Like creating two versions of xbox one, a multiplayer box and a single player/lan box, obviously the multiplayer would cost more since it would require things such as kinect. If they actually pulled this, they would most likely have the upper hand on the sales by now, decreasing the entire price of the offline system from 500€ to say, 375€, and if people wanted to get multiplayer later on into their system, they would have to buy kinect separated, which could end up costing more if bought separated rather than in a multiplayer pack.
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Well I wasn't planning on buying it anyways.
Playstation and pc ftw!
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I don't know about you guys, but I thought that some shit was pretty cool before the Xbox One reversed their DRM. Being a PC gamer for the past year and a half, I'm well aware that the sales of used games only act as a detriment to the developers and the publishers, and will only lead to higher sales prices. I also thought that the family plan was a very cool feature which would've allowed me to be able to share games with a brother of mine. While many of the things were shitty, such as the always online policies, I'd be happy to see some of the features come into play while managing to be optional.
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I don't know why people make such a big deal out of always online DRM. If given the chance I prefer not having it, sure, but I couldn't care less if it's there to be honest. I'm not a console peasant though so I don't really care about console wars, but still, never got why so much anger towards it.
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Some people don't have a stable internet connection.
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I live in a shitty third world country with a cheap ass connection and even that is stable.
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College is a pretty good example of where always online DRM is bad. My college's aggressive firewall blocks many online only games, and the internet is less than stable at peak hours. I literally could not play Starcraft 2 because the firewall blocked the port it used.
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Don´t be naive, it is not only the user connection, is the servers from Microsoft that can´t be trusted to be online all the time. Think about Sim City 5.
Also always online DRM gives no benefit, is just that, a DRM, why want it in the first place?
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No servers can be trusted to be online all the time, it happens. Every server will experience downtime sooner or later, but the frequency at which it happens is hardly ever a major issue unless the servers are utter shit, and as much as you may hate microsoft, their servers aren't terrible. About simcity 5, if you are referring to the launch issues, every major title has had them, it happens, and then it gets fixed, it's just how it works. It's not viable for any company to pay for bigger servers just for launch.
As for why want it in the first place, if you take the time to read my first comment it clearly says: 'If given the chance I prefer not having it, sure, but I couldn't care less if it's there
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It's not even always online DRM. It's online once a day DRM, just like Steam has online every two weeks DRM...
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It's not just about having a stable Internet connection, it seems that most people are missing the point. Having always-on DRM means that the ability to play your game depends entirely on somebody that is not you. In other words, if that somebody (the developper/publisher/...) decides to deny you access (lock or ban your ip, take down the DRM server, etc.) for whatever reason (going bankrupt, not enough players, too expensive, etc.) you will not be able to play the games you bought any longer. It's about control, you shouldn't have to depend on a third party over which you have no control to play a game you bought fair and square.
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Yet here you are, using steam. A third party which doesn't even sell you the game, but a license to play it, and who can choose to remove access to the games for any reason they see fit. Just because something can happen doesn't mean it will.
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Steam is not always online DRM, and if you lose access to your Steam game library you can still use your computer and buy games and software from other distributors, you don't end up with a $500 brick. And me using Steam doesn't invalidate my point either, when Gaben is replaced who knows how Steam's policies will evolve. The point is, we should be cautious and address these concerns before we end up in a tough spot. Blindly accepting anything on the basis that "Just because something can happen doesn't mean it will." seems irresponsible to me, are you going to start giving cigarettes to kids because they might not get cancer and drive without seatbelt because you might not end up in a car crash?
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Again, you are complaining about relying on someone other than yourself and something out of your control to retain access to your games, steam is exactly that. You don't complain about it because you never had problems with it, which is adopting the 'just because something happens doesn't mean it will' position.
The two analogies obviously don't apply. Comparing the possibility of death/suffering major injuries/getting cancer to losing your games is a bit excesive. And these are not concerns for everyone. As I've said I couldn't care less. I've been playing online games since Quake, and I've yet to lose access to any account due to things out of my control nor do I know anyone who has. That's enough for me to not give a fuck about 'what could happen if...' Could I lose access to all my games tomorrow for no good reason? Yes. Is it something that worries me in any way? No.
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Always-on DRM is a pretty recent thing so of course few people have yet to be affected. In your post you were asking why people make such a big deal out of it, I'm just giving you one answer. Then if you don't give a shit about it it's your call, but it's also reasonable for people to want to keep their freedom to play offline and to play their game without having to obtain permission from a third party every time. Regarding Steam, sure I'm not too worried either, that's why I'm using it too. That said, I also know that in the worst case scenario I can always fall back on piracy to get my games back if need be.
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This is very scary, why on earth would this many people sign a petition like this? I couldn't believe what i was reading but unfortunately this is sad but true.
article link: http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Stupid-Fanboys-Petition-Microsoft-Bring-Back-Xbox-One-DRM-57382.html
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