Greetings community,

Due to the rapidly rising amount of bundles (too late), we are updating this policy so that it is easier to understand. If we continue to list each unique bundle in the FAQ, there is a chance users might think it's okay when a certain bundle hasn't been listed yet.

  • Users may not submit individual keys from any bundle. This includes either keys for activating the entire bundle, parts of the bundle, or individual keys for games. Please do not submit games from bundles while they are on sale to avoid confusion. These giveaways are subject to immediate removal. Members may only submit unused, giftable links of the bundle. Accounts that habitually violate this policy may be suspended until further notice.

-best regards

12 years ago*

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Too much members...

12 years ago
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Nothing wrong with that. It's too many members that don't read that's the problem.

12 years ago
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Yea I meant that

12 years ago
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many*

12 years ago
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Too much bundles....

12 years ago
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for the love of god, link to the rules on the home page.

12 years ago
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This has been part of a slight nav update soon. The navigation bar is currently overstuffed. With the Replies feature being implemented, it's clear we're out of room.

12 years ago
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Oh nice \o

12 years ago
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How about the Support page?

12 years ago
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Support page has been in the nav for some time, actually.

12 years ago
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I suppose adding the FAQ under support would not encourage users to read the FAQ so much. It should definitely be linked on the page before confirming a giveaway though. The FAQ is also a little wordy, although all parts of it are necessary.

12 years ago
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That's why we condensed the Bundles policy down to a simple paragraph instead of listing every individual bundle. Hope to shrink it further.

12 years ago
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Didn't notice that change. But maybe it's too small to be noticed now. Lol.

12 years ago
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Props on simplifying rules.

12 years ago
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I will never understand the problem with bundles but so long people abuse/exploit it whatever I am fine with it.

12 years ago
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Too many stickies! Condense them into a few with links to each other?

12 years ago
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/me sees stickies

/me right-clicks

12 years ago
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There are times when you have cross-promotions of a game that's in a bundle but being promoted elsewhere. Like, all those Hacker Evolution Duality giveaways from a while back were from IGN Prime trials while the game was still in the Indie Gala 2 bundle. That said, I can understand why you'd be hesitant to allow that either.

However, I still think that people should be allowed to gift Steam inventory instances of bundle-included games. There are just SO MANY bundles these days that I am concerned that mere inclusion in a bundle is enough to make people who actually want to gift a game unable to do so.

For example, I'd been hoping that Carpe Fulgur's works would show up in bundles, but since I really like Recettear and am thinking about buying up a bunch of copies during a daily deal sale and gifting them out, now I am concerned about it showing up in a bundle because that limits my ability to gift them.

12 years ago
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People are allowed, given proof of inventory.

12 years ago
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This new policy seems to imply otherwise. However, I'm totally okay with a "proof of inventory" rule.

12 years ago
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We previously allowed this when IGN Prime and a Bundle have the same game available. We were usually okay if you update your description that it's an IGN Prime key instead of a Bundle key. Or giftable copy. If there is no description, we usually resorted to removing if it ends soon instead of waiting for OP to reply. Though, this resorted in too many witch-hunts of people demanding proof, so I don't think it's longer viable.

12 years ago
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What about forcing people gifting bundle games during a bundle to provide a description of their source, and enforcing this by removing those that are bundle keys and those without descriptions?

12 years ago
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We've actually tried this before. It did not work out and submitters would never respond.

12 years ago
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I don't mean asking the submitters whether they are submitting inv items or keys. I mean just simply shutting down those that don't specify items.

Though that might result in a lot of work for mods, both finding/removing giveaways and dealing with people's complaining about it in support tickets.

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You could always make some sort of a proof description a required thing...(and maybe make the word proof a link to a page containting some info about it, perhaps a forum topic)
This would weed out most folks that misunderstand normally, and only leave the mods/admins with the ones who just plain don't read or have a terrible english vocabulary...

Another option would be making the type of delivery a radiobutton requirement and specify this, which would allow you to not grant points for keys as well, though its implementation might be a bit of a bitch, considering everything that must be going on behind the scenes...

Perhaps I should have posted this as a separate comment to discuss, but whatever :)
Note that I mean for gifts in general, so not just the bundle ones.
Reading on, I have no desire to imply perfect proof, just a basic insinuation that there will be a specified type of delivery. ("gift in inventory" even when hidden, tells enough, same for "will purchase when winner is picked")

On a side-note; I'd love to get a notification if someone replies on a post of mine XD (but that's not the dealio right now)

Why does barely any site have WYSIWYG formatting textbox --> eventual comment? XP

12 years ago
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Hey. Click on that drop-down arrow up top next to "Account" and see that "View Replies" option? Your mind is now blown. First one's free. You're welcome. :)

12 years ago
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Oh my lawwwwwwwwwwrd! yay! :D

12 years ago
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Come to think of it, I think that givers should be forced to say whether their copy is a key or an inventory item.

12 years ago
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While this behavior is encouraged, it has never been or will never be a strict policy. We also won't force members to keep their inventory public.

12 years ago
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I see.

12 years ago
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You should have a dropdown to specify whether its a key or gift.

12 years ago
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I think we need a stronger way of encouraging this.

12 years ago
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Maybe it's due to that but I made a IG Carebear giveaway and it has been closed midway (already contacted support).

12 years ago
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Unless you noted that it was a key, we wouldn't have removed it.

12 years ago
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I didn't, it was a common description of the included Steam activated keys, the android game + DRM free game as well as the music.

Might be possible that I worded it badly but I don't think I did.

12 years ago
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thx for updating the info :)

12 years ago
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Tell me when ppls have keys from not bundle and give it to giveaway when this game in bundle ? I Mean i have key for game and that game is already in random bundle but i have it not from bundle so wtf..

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Basically, submitting individual keys from a bundle instead of the entire bundle gives you free points, which is unfair.

Of course, it's equally unfair that we're forbidden from making giveaways for bundled games that we already purchased elsewhere, or for entire bundles that we received as bonuses for buying OTHER bundles that we can't use due to having bought both bundles earlier, but there isn't really a good solution for this.

12 years ago
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It's written right in the original post: "to avoid confusion".

12 years ago
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Is it still alowd to give single keys from a bundle away in the forum?

12 years ago
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Yes, especially to me. No, but serioussly - it's allowed since it's not generating any extra points for public giveaways, there are many people doing it already. You can also do it on S.gifts chat.

12 years ago
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Technically, that depends on the rules for your bundle.

I've seen the Humble Bundle downloads page say that the keys are "for your personal use only". On the other hand, the Indie Gala 1 e-mail with the keys and other downloads did not say this.

As far as whether it's allowed on this site, it seems the answer is yes.

12 years ago
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Giving out individual keys are fine. As long as you do not give out a non-giftable URL to download the games themselves.

12 years ago
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This is good new rule.

12 years ago
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This have to be sticky, not?

12 years ago
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JUSTICE

In the name of bump

12 years ago
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Hichigo is such a bumper ;)

12 years ago
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I approve ;p

12 years ago
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Copied from response to get some bounceback on this here:

You could always make some sort of a proof description a required thing...(and maybe make the word proof a link to a page containting some info about it, perhaps a forum topic) This would weed out most folks that misunderstand normally, and only leave the mods/admins with the ones who just plain don't read or have a terrible english vocabulary...

Another option would be making the type of delivery a radiobutton requirement and specify this, which would allow you to not grant points for keys as well, though its implementation might be a bit of a bitch, considering everything that must be going on behind the scenes...

Perhaps I should have posted this as a separate comment to discuss, but whatever :)
Note that I mean for gifts in general, so not just the bundle ones.

Note also, that I have no desire to imply perfect proof, just a basic insinuation that there will be a specified type of delivery. ("gift in inventory" even when hidden, tells enough, same for "will purchase when winner is picked")

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Why does barely any site have WYSIWYG [formatting textbox --> eventual comment]? XP
)

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Closed 12 years ago by lokonopa.