I won't blacklist anyone who enters this. I was under the impression that the blacklist was limitless, but realizing I can only have 1000 people in it at a time, makes my old idea useless. I also didn't know how heavily wishlisted this game was until I read the comments here. I chose it at random from my old HB keys. My bad.
Anyway, I was too naive when making this giveaway, and I'll do better from here on.
Old Description:
This giveaway is made to collect Auto Joiners' accounts. Everyone who enters this giveaway will enter my blacklist after the giveaway ends. You'll have to contact me directly to remove you from the blacklist after that. The winner will still get their game key.
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Why not do that with a bad game, instead of a good one? I've been trying to win this for years...
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Actually, I chose a random game from my old Humble Bundles, didn't know if it was a good or bad one.
Sorry, I guess?
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Sure, I'll spend it on your mom.
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Exacly.
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I actually pressed the enter button instantly and only read the description after because the game looks fun, already removed the entry but feels bad, don't really know if it's the best way to do it...
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Sorry... I didn't realize this was such a valuable game. I also didn't realize the blacklist had a limit.
I'm not blacklisting anyone, so you can join if the giveaway didn't end yet by the time you read this.
Sorry, again.
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Yeah, +1000
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yeah my wishlist too
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You can join now, I'm not blacklisting anyone. See the updated description.
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I'm not blacklisting anyone now, I updated the description.
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Also interested in the game sooo pls don't blacklist I guess lol
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I updated the desciption. Don't worry, I won't blacklist anyone now.
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I think so. It's a good game to miss like this.
But I agree with your intentions.
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After reading the comments, I realized how bad of an idea this was. Now I decided to not blacklist anyone, and look for other ways to combat auto joiners. I updated the desciption of the giveaway with details.
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This is a game from my wishlist
This description upsets me
*went to cry loudly in the corner xD
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Sorry for the tears... If it makes you feel better, I decied to back down on my idea to blacklist people. You can join now. See the new description!
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Thanks
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Guess I'm not entering then, sucks because it looks like a cool game.
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Sorry... I realized this was bad idea, and decided to not blacklist anyone. You can join now.
Read the updated description.
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Thanks! Good luck to everyone ^^
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Ty! <3
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I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it.
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I blacklisted you in advance.
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Considering I made this giveaway on bad assumptions, (didn't think this was a good game that many people wanted, and didn't know blacklists were limited to 1000,) That's fair...
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If it makes you feel any better, I did back down from my idea to blacklist anyone. So... We cool?
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Weird way to find who's auto joining.
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Or who is just too lazy to read the description
By the way, there are only 1000 places in the blacklist if I remember correctly, what will happen if there are more participants here, lol
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Or people that will read it and enter anyway. I did pick up a new BL, but not from this account. So multi-accounter, or someone else using their entries to BL?
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Those are the brave ones, I think?
Anyway, I updated the description of the GA. I won't blacklist anyone now.
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One thing I have seen some people do is hide an invite only GA for the same game in the description in a . link, so it looks like a . but you click it, and it goes to the invite GA. This is the carrot rather than stick approach. You can also join groups, or make whitelist GAs.
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a large chunk of it will be people to lazy to read descriptions, or those using esgst 1 click enter(this isn't autio joining... its just removing the load page in separate tab step) without the popup description feature on.
not really worth blacklisting those under a certain level either, just level gate them out of giveaways, many be will be 0-3 as a minor investment for freebies.
also find it funny someone blacklisted the creator of this in advance... when they don't really make giveaways themselves.
that green enter button keeps taunting me and my 400p >>
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I'd suggest blacklisting by level with highest the most deserving as those members did the most harm to the honest ones already and presto! your blacklist will be full in no time.
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Yeah, I only realized the blacklist has a limit after reading the comments here. I decided to go back on blacklisting people. Read the updated description.
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After reading the comments, I realized it's not worth blacklisting anyone. I'll find other ways to combat autojoiners.
I updated the description, if you'd like you can join now.
P.S: I think it's fair for people to blacklist me in advance for this. I was too naive.
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I didn't know that!!!
The more I read the comments the more I think I made a huge mistake. Oh, well...
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After reading the comments here, I realized I made the giveaway on bad assumptions. I won't blacklist anyone now, and I updated the description. Check it out.
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Thank you for the chance!
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Read description. Manually joining.
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You're a brave one! Anyway, I'm not blacklisting anyone now. I updated the description of the giveaway.
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Thanks ❤️❤️❤️
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This is stupid. Make this with bad game, that noone really wants. Not with great title.
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Yeah, I realized how stupid I was.
I won't blacklist anyone, and I updated the description with my reasoning.
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Thank you man.
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I'm new to steamgifts, I started investigating autojoin and it's a problem that has been around for a while and has never been solved o.o!
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And here I thought I had a brilliant solution for it. LOL
Anyway, I decided to not blacklist anyone. See the updated description.
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manually joining since it's on my wishlist :) might be better to try this again with a shovelware game, I think that has a much bigger chance of only attracting bots
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I didn't realize how many people wanted this game. I chose it at random from the games I didn't activate from old Humble Bundles.
I decided not to blacklist anyone now. Thanks for your comment.
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looks like a cool game so I'm manually joining.
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You're in luck. I'm not blacklisting anyone now.
I updated the description with my reasoning.
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Manually joining here too. Thanks you :)
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You're in luck. I'm decided to go back on my blacklisting idea. I updated the GA description so check it out.
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I already baited before with DLC that everyone owns and with a description that pops out. Suit yourself, 4 GAs so you can also decide for yourself who's a scripting jerk:
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Thanks for the links.
For this giveaway, I decided to not blacklist anyone. I didn't want to be unfair after all. Read the updated description.
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thanks <3
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I have read your description but still enter because the game is good and you will anyway have more as 1k entries.
And you are only able to BL 1k.
So i hope you don't blacklist the ones that wrote here in a way that show clearly that they aren't using a autojoiner program.
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Sorry, I didn't know that there's a limit to the blacklist... Now I'm thinking of how I damage control this!!!!!
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I would advice you to set a minimum level for public GAs. My choice for own public GAs is level 5 because my BL is full with "only" level 5 or higher accounts. So i recommend at least level 3 or 4.
On top checking the winners with https://www.sgtools.info/activation and report the ones that have unactivated wins is always helpful.
With this way you will have a lot on your BL from the ones that entered this GA, without to write something in the comments that show that they are real people, but i think your BL will not be full.
So you would hit both targets that you have now (combat the autojoiners and don't add so many that your BL isn't big enough).
The next GA, with level restriction, bring then not so many new ones for the BL and it will be lesser work to add them as now.
So only one time (now) much checking needed.
A other approach is to create a GA and write in the description of this GA then the link to a other GA (prefered the same game), then you see how many don't read descriptions and it reward the ones that read descriptions with much better winning chances.
When you have more as one copy of a game, is this the best solution.
When you have only one key for each game, it is more difficult because someone could have the first game and will never see the description, with the second GA link, for it because it is hidden for him.
Or you join groups that control which users join their group and kick the ones that break sg rules.
It doesn't give much of such groups (the most groups don't care) but as example the groups from Metalhead8489 and my own are such ones.
I hope you find a way that fit for you.
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Thanks for the advice!
By the way, can you do Lv5 or above while still allowing people on your whitelist to enter even if they're not at that level? If that's the case, I have some ideas.
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When you do a public GA the rules and limitations count for everyone.
So, no, the users on your WL can't join with a lower level as the rest.
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Thanks, GL all
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Same situation here, Ahmad. Game's on my wishlist and it's so cool to be dropped. I read the description and I'm aware that me and some people here can be blacklisted for it. I think the manner you're trying to use to fish 'autojoiners' isn't very accurate but I thank you for the opportunity. And I also wish best luck for the people trying to get the game. Peace!
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I didn't realize this was such a good game that many people wanted, I picked it from my old unactivated HumbleBundle keys at random.
I also didn't realize the blacklist only had 1000 spaces, so I think I made a mistake. Let's see how it goes.
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I decided not to blacklist anyone. Read the updated description.
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End don't justifies the means, in this case. I see that even many people that are very active in the forums, even big gifters and moderators came here to talk about the situation.
But, hey, live and learn. Anyway, thank you for rethinking your methods and your position. Take it easy, mate! =)
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