Games: The Talos Principle + The Witness
Level: 3+
Region Restrictions: No
Time: Until 24th December
Hints: 1) all you need for solving this is to know the English alphabet
2) actually, all lines are of the same length
Puzzle:

C is the third letter of the alphabet.
The eleventh letter on this line is the N.
Letter A takes the ninth spot in here.
Do not look for any help on eighteenth line.
This is just as short as line fifteen is.
Try to read this quickly sixteen times.
I made more than ten puzzles for SG.
I hope for at least seventeen solves here.
This is solvable in under six days.
I created it in less than eight hours.
You can win at most two great games.
I wonder who works it out first of all.
Line seven isn’t shorter than this is.
Nor is four any bit longer than this.
Possibly fifth line brings insight.
Text here or line twelve has no import.
You adjust line fourteen if it is untrue.
Tough to say what is number thirteen for.

Edit: I realized the second line was a bit misleading, breaking the true concept of the puzzle, therefore I adjusted it

Solution: A great solution was posted at the Witness giveaway

1 week ago*

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Have a bump!

1 week ago
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...what

1 week ago
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solution when it's over posted here please? No idea what i'm looking for, wonder how many will solve/solved

1 week ago
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So far zero people have entered either of the GA's, or at least thats what you see when you check nick's profile

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1 week ago
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oh, thats both reasuring and scary

1 week ago
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It seems nobody is even trying, so your chance to win is pretty high.:-) I posted a hint.

1 week ago
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Yeah,that hint won't be enough...

1 week ago
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will definetly come back to see the solution later ,cos i'm out of the race

3 days ago
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6 days ago
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Was expecting something easier when clicking the title...

1 week ago
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Have a bump!
Yet I just found a pattern, but no solution.

1 week ago
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You're halfway there!

1 week ago
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Ho, ho, livin' on a prayer?

1 week ago
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hmmm, hints probably not necessary?!?!

1 week ago
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At least, how many 5-character strings should it be? One or two?

1 week ago
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Just one solution will give you access to both giveaways.

1 week ago
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Bump and good luck to those less dumb than I am. :D

1 week ago
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bump for skip

1 week ago
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Have a bump!
Not clicking yet.

1 week ago
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I guess the great SG puzzle community is really dead for good. Let's try it with a hint.

1 week ago
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Now feeling more dumb with the hint..

1 week ago
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Oh... but I'm sure it at least closed a lot of dead ends.

6 days ago
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Would it violate the rules, if I posted my thoughts so far (not solved yet) here on the comment section, or would you mind? Still zero entries so far, do the GAs have.

4 days ago
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Sure, since so few people are trying, we can make it something like a community puzzle. Have at least some fun. But try to be a bit obscure, so that others stiil need to put some thought into it.

4 days ago
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Personally I think I can make sense of the two hints, the second one most of all (on the 1st one I'm still not entirely sure).
Seems like now that I'm seeing what I'm seeing I'd need something that would help me pick the right ones. I assumed I had what I needed but I don't get anything that makes sense to my single braincell at the moment, I'm using them in the wrong way most likely. I'm trying to remain as vague as possible sorry.
I have the feeling the answer is right there looking at me, but I'm overthinking things as usual.
(All this assuming I'm on the right path, which is a big guess 😅)

4 days ago
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Let me ask this: Did you manage to make all lines have the same length?

4 days ago
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I am also still looking now and then into it and really spend quite some time figuring out how to solve this. So I do not think nobody is trying.

As posted above I have found some patterns, but couldn't solve the other "half". I also did not yet solve the "same length" problem even though I thought about it even before the hint was there since you could somewhat understand that from the riddle itself.

Let's see if I can make it. I just wanted to let you know, we are here we are trying. Puzzle community still present, do not be frustrated. But it seams to be a though challenge.

And I really appreciate you making this puzzle. The puzzle community can only life if it gets something to eat ☺️.

4 days ago
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Thanks. I made a slight adjustment to the puzzle which might help you with the "same length" problem.

4 days ago
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ah good to know since I work in my notepad since I once copied the puzzle

4 days ago
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4 days ago
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Yes, I did, and your adjustment confirmed me I did it the right way.

4 days ago
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Nice, I believe that is the hardest part of the puzzle. Now, you need to pick the right ones, as you said, but also arrange them in the correct order..

4 days ago
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I can't confidently narrow it down to just 5 characters at the moment, and if more are actually needed, I have a few possibilites at hand with 7, 9 or 18, but even rearranging them in the few logic ways I could think of, I don't get anything that works.
I have to think more about it.

Edit: nevermind, I solved it 🤣

3 days ago*
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I do not have much time at the moment since Christmas stuff already takes a lot of time.

But I had a few minutes to look into it and now managed to solve the "same length" thing. Also assume I have an order. And also I might have "the right ones" (probably not since it does not work out). Also I yet do not see the benefit of having them on same length.

Hope to have some more time before end of puzzle.

2 days ago
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If the same length equals the length of the English alphabet, there should be a benefit:-)

2 days ago
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if this is true then the second line is false, no?

2 days ago
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I believe it isn't: if you count letters, the eleventh one is N, isn't it?

2 days ago
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And we have the first solver -- it is actually possible to get there, guys!

4 days ago
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I've been thinking back and forth for few days but nah man this is hard.

4 days ago
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What progress have you made so far?

4 days ago
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Well i do not think i have made any progress but some of the things i tried and thought it was a dead end are:
Adjusting the line order as the numbers they contain.
Finding the alphabet equivalent of the numbers in the lines and trying to get a code from there.
Sorting the lines as true/false as the information it contains.
Finding the letter corresponding to the number in the line.
After the hint 2, adjusting the lines to be exact same length.
And maybe some more things that i dont remember. But they all feels like useless.

3 days ago
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Adjusting the line order as the numbers they contain.
Finding the alphabet equivalent of the numbers in the lines and trying to get a code from there.
Sorting the lines as true/false as the information it contains.
Finding the letter corresponding to the number in the line.

I did exactly the same.

3 days ago
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As for the same length, try to look at it this way: is there anything that you can find in all the sentences and that is of varied length? Also: how long should the lines probably be when you consider the first hint?

3 days ago
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Bump for solved!
A very good brain-teaser. And looking at it as a whole I can see it's really well built.
I wouldn't have solved it without the hints, though.
Thanks! ;)

3 days ago
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Congratuations, glad you made it!

3 days ago
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I am not even a high enough Level to enter the giveaway, but I have been out here, and I am so lost that I am making crossword puzzles from this. I have finally done it. This was really cool. <3

3 days ago*
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How many characters does the solution have? And if we have to replace something with something, should the second something be lowercase or uppercase?

2 days ago
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The final solution has five characters. But to decide lowercase and uppercase you would need more... approximately eighteen ;-)

2 days ago
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I've been trying to solve it since the beginning. I've tried everything. And without the hints and after the hints, I tried to find something with 18 characters that makes at least some sense. I've searched in all directions (and diagonally) and with various line arrangements. I don't know what else to try.

2 days ago
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Hm, I'm not sure I understant clearly... Each line (or sentence) should give you one character but they are not arranged in a straight line or any similar way, so you will not need any "directions".

2 days ago
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Bump. Somehow I missed this puzzle thread all week...
"Solved" the same length part. Now 1 day left the solve the other half!

2 days ago
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And that would be the easier half!

2 days ago
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Indeed! solved. Thank you.

2 days ago
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Thought I found something but couldn't figure out the upper and lowercases, so tried to bruteforce and got locked off the website :D
Seems to be wrong anyways though, unfortunate, here's a bump

2 days ago
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Which website do you mean? You only need Steamgifts to solve this puzzle.

2 days ago
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for trying to bruteforce i got locked off steamgifts. Ik the code is only for steamgifts :D

2 days ago
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Oh, is that even possible? I never heard of that.

2 days ago
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apparently yeah :D
Tried 64 combinations of lower upper cases (32 per code that I thought might fit) and got locked out

2 days ago
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Last hours bump for solved!

Very well crafted puzzle! Thanks!

1 day ago
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I can understand the 2 hints and I think I can arrange them correctly, but I still can't get the final code.

edit: solved just in time :P

1 day ago*
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Bump :)

1 day ago
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Can we get a solution?

12 hours ago
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