As the title says. I believe that it would be best if users were only allowed to enter a giveaway after they make their first. This would discourage the bots you are all talking about.

EDIT: All right, seems the community has sppoken. Thank you all for your input.

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GA access

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Only to those who have gifted something
To everyone who qualifies for Steamgifts
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P2W? You do realize Level 1 requires only a penny right?
Level 2 is where it gets good, as it requires $25.

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Why do you care how others give their games? You can make your giveaways level 1+

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^^^ This ^^^

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This of course.

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+1

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3+1=4
Now I realized that his was pointless since I already voted up there.

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Easily can be tricked

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One that isn't free else it's useless.

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Well, yes!

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Because no one would get to level 1 just to keep using their bot.
All it would do is cut out level 0 bots, but there are bots at all levels.

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It's a... bold suggestion, but I feel like we'd unnecessarily punish those who many genuinely don't have money to buy a game to gift. This site is about giving, not just winning. This isn't just an exchange of games, where first gets to call dibs. It's about giving everybody an equal chance of winning a game, that maybe they would not have considered buying before or simply can't.

If you want to reward people who gift more, that is your option, you can do that. Heck, I made some giveaways level 1 or 2 and above, if I thought that game deserved someone who shares a lot. In the end, if you really want to make sure your giveaways are only received by those who only gave something first, then be my guest.

However, I started as a level 0 for a long time and took a bit before I made my first GA, so it feels dirty to punish new people because of bots. It feels more welcoming this way.

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Well, I don't see it as punishment. I mean you need to have a certain amount of money spent already in order to enter SG. All it takes to get to level 1 are a few dollars.

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If you tell me that I have to spend at least 1 dollar in steamgifts, probably I would not be with an account in steam gifts and level 5 now.

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reaching lvl1 only costs a few cents though

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Some people don't have paypal or a credit card, my friends just buy their games in steam because steam have like 10 payment options and at least 1 of that 10 options convinces them to buy the game or games they want, some of my friends don't buy games in bundle stars or humble bundle because they don't have paypal or a credit card, before steam gifts I never buy games from humble bundle, bundle stars, etc. My reason to buy games in bundle stars was to do a giveaway and it still the only reason.
Some people like me have the money and want to know that it works, and some people don't have the money to reach level 1, and some people prefer to don't pay for something they haven't receive.

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You can also exchange a few cards for a bundle-key

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The simpler it is the more people there will be.

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I'm not promoting that limit btw., because I consider lvl1 to be easily achievable so it doesn't really make any difference.

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I think that's too harsh. Maybe level-0 accounts can have as much as 5 or 10 wins max, that would be more reasonable.
I know someone who won something from SG, that gave him encouragement to give something as well. few months later, he has about 10:1 ratio. and that specific someone, invited me to join the community

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Maybe that is another option.

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Then more bots could just be created.

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Is the same bot with multiple wins better?

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Psst, sorry for the offtop, but I really need to know the source of your avatar, please? 3:

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if that's the case.. There is no source, I illustrated it 6-7 years ago when I get my first wacom tablet, it is not based or referred from anything so you could say it's an original work. I'm not sure how can I help you with your request..
And I lost the source/raw file as well

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Sorry for creepin' but that's a beautiful illustration, so talented. :)

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Not creeping at all, thanks for the flattery. that's cheering!

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Wow! Thanks for the reply, that's some really gorgeous work so I wanted to know the author, knowing it's you is even more impressive. ♡

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Oh, I thought you were wondering which anime or shows it is from. well then, that's even better. Thanks! that's comforting to know. your avatar on the other hand is 10 times better, if not 20. Perhaps you can tell me the source?

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No problem! Unfortunately, the only source I have is this, which doesn't tell much. But still don't think it's any better.

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I have to say no to this suggestion. When making a giveaway you can choose which level someone has to be to enter your giveaway and that's enough in my opinion. If you don't make use of it then it's your own fault. Plus, someone who wants to bot will usually always find a way to cheat the system one way or another. =)

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If you can get an account up to the $100 threshold required to enter SG, you can also get a cheap bundle leftover key and make a giveaway for it. All it would really do is deter the laziest of bot-users. It would also likely deter a lot of new regular users, because while the cost to get to level 1 is very low, putting up a paywall like that would likely make a lot of people lose interest in the site before they've even started.

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This +2

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+1
Glad I revisited this thread.

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You would be surprised. When I first joined the site, I couldn't buy Steam games myself. I joined with bundles and gifts I got from users on other forums. Was several months before I was able to make any giveaways at all.

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I have given about thrice as much as I've won here over the few months I've been a member. I can honestly say if this was the case I would never have returned here after my first visit. I didn't start giving anything until I had already taken part for a while and gotten to see what a great community this is, a great inclusive community that gives freely.

I get more than a bit uneasy when people start talking about trying to restrict access beyond what is already available, not only because it will scare away a lot of new members like myself who will later perhaps start giving, but because I don't want to give gifts to the kind of people who feel that gifts have to be "earned". Once you start trying to think of ways to exclude people you feel don't deserve this then I feel that's far too close to saying that you only want to give to people who "pay you back" through whatever means you think is deserving. That is not giving, that's selling, or trading if you wish. There are other sites for that.

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SGTools has the functionality\requirements you're describing.

Also bots and auto joiners are active on all of the SG levels.

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Or only by level 10 users. Or only by support members. Or only by the admin. :O

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I know I started making giveaways after I won something and realized that it's real - that feeling is something that should not be lost.
Make level 1+ giveaways and solved.

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yeah, exactly. When you found out that people are really giving you the chance to have a game (possibly a wishlisted game), it's then that you decide to give back.

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I think a lot of people would never think twice about this website, knowing there's an entry fee. I would have for sure never paid to be part of this site, but now I am here and I've received a lot and I've given a lot.

So.

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no
let people pick where their giveaways go.
don't want lv0s? set to lv1.

i'd rather have an option to set maximum level.

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That is something I would like also.

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While it's not part of the vanilla experience, it is one of the various custom settings you can set in SGTools.

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but only for private giveaways.

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Well, I can only afford 1$ bundles. I deliberately allow everyone to have a chance in winning, because it might make someone's day; I know a stranger's random act of kindness has made my day more than once. Do bots and people who don't appreciate the games sometimes win? Sure, but I'm not my brother's keeper.

There is already a requirement to have enough games in your Steam account to qualify for SG (and we can't know why a person could afford to enter but not to give AAA games afterwards), so I'm afraid increasing barriers would just run the risk of becoming elitist.

SG has wisely implemented the option for the user to choose the minimum level of the winner, and in my opinion this is more than enough.

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An odd point, I know, but logically this couldn't have been implemented in the beginning. If you had to give a gift to enter a giveaway, the very first giveaway would have nobody that could enter it. Thus, the gift could not be awarded and nothing would ever progress.

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Nah. If I want my giveaways to be L1 or above, I can set them. Letting creators choose is best.

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Use captcha instead xD

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I bet a large ammount of users don't make a giveaway untill they have won something themselves and are sure the site isn't a scam, so this would just turn off a bunch people.
Also let the creators decide whom they want to allow to enter their GAs.

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If you have a problem with people who join giveaways and are still Level 0 you should just create giveaways with higher levels.
Apparently there are many people who have no problem with that.
Every gifter can choose himself!

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If you fear bots in lvl0, you should know that there are bots even in lvl 8.

And you can always blacklist leechers

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You shouldn't have to gift before you receive.

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