Hey SG, it's been an interesting few days, and I feel it's a good time to clear up some of the recent changes, and misunderstandings.


1. Where did the moderators from support go?

Everyone was removed from support the other day. It was no longer fair to the community and moderators. In short, there were too many tickets, which they did not have the ability to address. As a result, we ended up with angry users, and overwhelmed moderators. Due to this frustration, we've had moderators lose their temper at times when dealing with users in support, and complaints started to roll in about people being treated unfairly, suspensions being given for invalid reasons or personal disputes, name calling, etc. That's not the way the support section should be run, and therefore everyone was removed until it's back on course.

Yesterday there was an update to better organize user tickets, so they're easier for users to follow, and easier for moderators to organize. It's a step in the right direction, but there are still a lot of improvements to be made.

I'll be looking after all the support tickets until we're up-to-date. The next week I'll be working on them fulltime, and hopefully that'll reduce some of the backlog.


2. Why couldn't the moderators perform certain actions?

If it was that easy, and I could allow all moderators to delete and reroll giveaways, it would have happened long ago. Right now giveaways cannot be undeleted. If a giveaway is removed, it's gone, unless we get into restoring available database backups. Call it a poor judgement in coding when I first started on the site, because that's exactly what it is. The method in which giveaways are handled and removed needs to be recoded. We also need a log of all actions performed by moderators. If we have a handful of users moderating the site, and we have no idea who deleted a giveaway, why a winner was rerolled, etc, we get even more headaches. Dropping those privileges in front of an overworked and stressed group of moderators, when the above isn't setup would be a giant security risk. I wouldn't be able to sleep knowing the entire site could be deleted overnight, and it doesn't make sense to risk years of work and the trust of the community by releasing updates a couple of months prematurely.


3. Why are you focusing on browser chat and the TF2 server? The priorities for SteamGifts are in the wrong place.

The 32 player TF2 server is running on autopilot, and it's set to either renew or expire on the 10th depending on user interest. We have two 16 player servers setup for the TF2 tournament, and those are entirely managed by some of our fellow members. I've spent 3 hours working on the browser chat in the past month. You have to realize I get burnt out working day and night developing these sites, and maintaining the server. Occasionally, I need a break. Instead of watching a movie for a couple of hours, I'll code something completely unrelated, like the chat room, since it clears my mind, and it's educational. We might not need a browser chat, but it was a fun experiment to learn some new techniques, performance limitations for different methods of data retrieval, and it has a lot of potential for other Steam related projects I'm developing. We might even be able to revamp it to become real-time support, where users help users, to reduce the number of tickets we receive. If you think the chat and TF2 server is where the time is going, you're misunderstood. The site has been live for just over a year, and I do my best to listen to all the feedback from the community. Let's take a look at some of the public announcements throughout the year.

The site has come a long way this year, and the next year will be even busier, with some of the largest updates yet. I think the time was managed well, and we're heading in the right direction. However, things take a while with a development team of one, and you can't expect changes to happen overnight. The community has been amazing with all the suggestions, and some of our best features have originated from the forum. We've reached 1.2 million dollars in gifts received, 170,000 users, and 25,000 contributors. We've had the pleasure to work with a number of game developers, received tons of support from the users of Reddit, GOG, GiantBomb, Penny Arcade, Facepunch, CheapAssGamer, SomethingAwful, and NeoGAF, and our group of moderators have invested countless hours. I think we've worked together to create something incredible, and although the site has a few rough edges, I don't think that's reason to lose focus on the achievement we've reached as a community.

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Thanks for the update.

12 years ago
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Much respect and appreciation for your work and the time and input of everyone else involved, and all the contributers, and the developers, and a shoutout to my manager and all my fans.

12 years ago
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Still banned from chat for a silly reason, 2 weeks now. -sigh-

12 years ago
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Yeah, I've seen a lot of silly chat bans, like people getting banned for mentioning SAM. lolol

12 years ago
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YOU'RE ALIVE! Thanks for clearing this up. :)

12 years ago
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Y YU FILL US IN WITH CONSTRUCTIVE POSITIVE FEEDBACK POST SG?

12 years ago
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Thanks cg and all mods.

12 years ago
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Appreciate the efforts of you and the mods (past & present) in making Steamgifts such a great site.

Thanks :D

12 years ago
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Will you be retroactively removing contributor value for those giving away beta keys? I sure hope so, as they're purposely taking advantage of there being nobody to shut down giveaways in time.

12 years ago
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will probably get then, when there's time for it.

12 years ago
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I really hope you get it straight when possible cg, and I want to trust you will
but at the moment this is going in Sin City Mode...
Even the contributor giveaways you made recently are rewarding the ones breaking your own rules...
Steamgifts I see today is not the steamgifts I joined not 9 months ago... And unfortunately, tough it saddens me to say it, in admiration for you and your hard work, it didn't get any better, but way worst...

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"Everyone was removed from support the other day"
Umm...not according to the forums. The mods/supports weren't removed, they quit because nothing was getting handled; as evidenced by their quitting/goodbye threads.

12 years ago
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cg, thanks for everything you have done for us. Just wanted to say that.

I was an administrator of several sites, and I know exactly why you do things the way you do. So keep going.

12 years ago
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gooooood on ya CG

12 years ago
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Why is there not an option to give away Supreme Commander Gold Edition?!

12 years ago
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File a support ticket.

12 years ago
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Can you delete my giveaway pls, was accidently created
(I know this is a bad place to post this on)

12 years ago
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Why do you post here then?

Support is this way.

12 years ago
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It all sounds pretty much the way I expected. I could see where the frustration of mods was coming from, but the bigger picture is maintaining the trust of the 170,000 members. Some better communication would have helped, but I still feel things are going forward. I wish cg all the luck in the world dealing with tickets, and hope the mods will eventually find their way back, refreshed after the unexpected leave of absence.

12 years ago
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+1

12 years ago
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Bravo, Excellent thread addressing my quitting thread but i'm still wondering the following:

1) How the hell do you plan on managing support for "x" weeks (x being how long it takes to reinstate mods) on your own? It seems most tickets will take at least a week to be answers.

2) Why would you remove us from support and why the hell did you think it was a smart idea? That is the main reason I left. By doing that, you just let EVERY scammer that is on steamtrades freely scam. I could not do anything against them and you just turned steamtrades into a scamming hotspot.

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Not to mention the spammers, twats and racists that have being lurking on the forum lately

12 years ago
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Aaaah they always come back

12 years ago
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Why not have keys or Bundle URL's be entered at creating a gift.

  1. email of the winner doesn't need to be exposed and he receives the key instantly after winning. The gifter doesn't have to do anything like sending the key/bundle URL. Retail keys always make me feel itchy. I suggest handling them as individual (bundle) game keys.
  2. Gifts from steam inventory can be sent the old-fashioned way. And if the winner receives a gift/URL they could report which would set the value of the steamgift to 0, for example :) (Or check I received a Steam Gift/I received a game key) Keep in mind that many buy gifts on steam sales, so the full price is just an arbitrary value anyway.
    This way it might not be totally fair, concerning bundles, but at least it keeps things simple from a user perspective. Avoiding keeping an up-to-date list of bundle games, etc.
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So, nothing happens. No new people in support.

More and more assholes abuse the contributorsystem with fakegiveaways/multiaccounts/fakegiveawaygroups and so on. What shall we do when no one works on reports? So, we gonna call them out in the forums to have a shitload of threads? :/

I just started to put really every idiot/scammer/whatever onto my blacklist.

12 years ago
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Ghostbusters

12 years ago
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You`re right. Let´s call the Ghostbusters!

12 years ago
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Closed 12 years ago by cg.