And yet it's not doing its job because I read it and it didn't answer my question. When it comes to bundle games, the FAW links to a thread which states "giveaways that might have originated from a bundle [are limited] to 20% of your total value" and "The new system will ensure contributor values are not overly inflated by bundle games."
It doesn't say that there is any sort of limit (which clearly there is, as my contributor value is no longer increasing) or what what limit is. According to those statements, my contributor value should still be increasing, albeit at a reduced rate.
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Ok, so that thread is linked to from the thread that the FAQ links to.
boskiapollo below managed to give me the same information in 2 sentences. That information should just be put concisely into the main FAQ and it would be much easier to find.
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So, instead of admitting your error and callous jump to conclusions, you instead demand the FAQ be formatted differently. >__<
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What was my error and what conclusion did I jump to?
I'm not someone who can't be bothered to read. I checked the FAQ first, didn't find the information, so asked in the forum. Only one person was nice enough to just give me the answer. Everyone else has to claim that I didn't read the FAQ. I did, and I followed the first link to the first thread. I just somehow missed the second link to the second thread. If that was my error, then I admitted it when I said 'Ok, so that thread is linked to from the thread that the FAQ links to.'
So I have read it now, but I don't count something that's in a thread that's linked to from a thread that's linked to from the FAQ as 'being in the FAQ'. Another user gave me the answer here in two concise sentences. If that information was on the main FAQ I would have found it in 30 seconds (not to mention that it would take up less space).
Again - if a piece of information is quicker to get from posting a new question on the forum than reading the FAQ, then, yes, perhaps the FAQ should be formatted differently.
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There is a link to the FAQ on every page of the site. There is a sticky at the top of the forum. There is a question mark directly next to your contributor value on your profile page. There is an explicit notice on the "create a giveaway" page.
But you're right, it's not your fault. Blame the man, system, site-- keep fighting the good fight.
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I didn't say I couldn't find the FAQ. I'm saying the information I wanted/needed isn't in it - or at least it's not a simple case of "Click FAQ, FAQ says 'Full value for bundle games up to $30, 20% thereafter provided you also give away non-bundle games'." The information is somewhat buried through two other threads. I know that might make it sound like I can't be bothered to read, but that's not the case for me (although I'm sure that is the case for some people).
So just a quick question for you - if you have a problem with people asking these sorts of questions, don't you agree that the FAQ could be edited to make the information clearer and easier to find?
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He's only irritated because this question comes up every few days, and every few days we answer the question in detail--even posting said answer all over the site--and yet people continue to ask this same question because they can't be bothered. The answer is easy to find (actually, it's hard to miss), and it is perfectly clear.
Just in case you haven't yet already had it explained to your satisfaction, here is the answer in simplified form:
CV = N + min(B or 0.2N)
...where N is the value of non-bundled games, B is the value of bundled games, and the first $25 of bundled games counts as non-bundled. In other words, your CV will not increase past $30 unless and until you give away non-bundled games.
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Honestly, the link is buried in the fact and can easily be missed. I know about it and had to look closely to find it. (Maybe adding the "Why is my CV stuck at $30" to that paragraph header would help.)
What more, fadetonoir didn't come in the forum bitching about how it was not fair and that he's being robbed of CV but merely asked what he had to do in order to keep getting credited for his contributions. I know we get those threads all the time but when it seems the person has at least made an effort to find the information and is asking in a civil manner, I think it's fair to answer in the same manner.
There's nothing wrong with pointing to where the info is, but there's no point in being hostile about it.
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The limit for bundled games is 30 bucks. After that, you needa start giving away non-bundled games if you want a higher CV (bundled games which are given away before they're bundled count as well).
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No, it's not in the FAQ. It goes FAQ -> Link to thread -> Link to other thread.
If it's quicker (and more concise) to find information by asking a question, then the FAQ isn't doing its job.
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" The other [reason of contrib not rising] is due to having too many bundle games given away. Your contributor value will be locked until you submit further giveaways that are not from bundles and will continue to rise gradually until the full value has been reached. " -- FAQ
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Ok, here is the rule.
You receive full value of your non bundled giveaways and only 20% of value non-bundled games for you bundled games giveaway. First 30$ you receive in full value (even if all are bundled games).
But now if you want to increase CV you have to give non bundled games. Here is an example:
You create non bundled giveaway of value 20$. So you get the 20$ of CV + 0.2*20$= 4$ for you bundled games giveaways. CV of bundled games are frozen, and you get 0.2 of value for each non bundled giveaway.
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Thank you, that clarifies it. (I think!)
So if I now create a new giveaway for a non-bundled game I should get 20% of the value from my giveways of bundled games that have already closed?
I was hoping to be able to give away some none bundle games in the near future anyway. I will see if I have any more spare keys.
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Ah, interesting, but that makes sense I guess. Thanks for your help!
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Don't make giveaways for CV. You might not see it now, but by time you'll see it was all too silly.
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I don't. I make giveaways because I'm happy to giveaway games that I'm not going to play. It's just that most of those games come from bundles - and after seeing my CV shoot up from $0 to $30 after just a few games but then not get any higher after the last 4 or 5 I was just wondering why.
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It's all in the FAQ but it's also true that it's easy to miss since it's a link to an external page. (The question mark beside your CV on your profile brings you to the right thread though).
Your bundle giveaways get credited for up to 20% on your non-bundle giveaways. The first $25 of bundle giveaways gets treated as non-bundled. This is why you max out at $30 if giving away only bundle games. ($25 + 20% of it, so another $5) For every $10 of non-bundle games you make you can get up to $2 of your bundled value, up to the point of being credited for 100% of them.
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I've been a member of the site for just a month or so, but shortly after I joined I created a bunch of giveaways because I had a few bundle leftovers that I was never going to use and I thought this was a good way to get rid of them, by passing them on to other people.
This quickly increased my contribution level from $0 to $30. However, I seem to be struggling to get it past that. It hasn't gone up after any of the last 4 giveaways I've created. Yes, they're also bundle leftovers, but if the other games had value, why don't these? The games were all valued at their Steam Store price on the giveaways I created.
So how are bundle games valued on this site? Is a game valued differently somehow if it's been in a bundle and how do you know? Is there a limit on the total amount your contributions can increase from bundle games?
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