I'm currenlty looking at gameplay and reviews from Endless Space, but it seems like better titles should be out there. Any suggestions would be great, cheers!

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Galactic Civilizations: I personally have the Ultimate 2 and it is good, but VERY complex!
Civilization 5: A beast, and easy to pick up!

I've also heard good things from Sin of a Solar Empire, but can't give you feedback on those (the Trinity version is in my wishlist)...

I'm sure there are others, but those are the ones I personally know.

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I'll give them a look, they sound good!

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i can say im a huge space game lover and i didnt enjoy the sin of solar empire rebellion game.

but another good space game is "Spore" the end game of spore is crazy amazing for a space game

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Homeworld 2

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I can't find it on Steam though, which is a shame :(

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There supposedly is a HD version coming in some time.

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Although an excellent title, this is an RTS.

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Upcoming Galactic Civilization III looks decent but costs ridiculous money on steam. Check also X series, Master of Orion too, but only if you don't mind ancient games.

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A more recent one, with great graphical battles would be awesome.

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Best ever was Alpha Centauri: Alien Crossfire, but it's extremely dated now. Can still get it on GOG though.
Endless Space is pretty fun, but it's very shallow. All the parts are there, but no soul.
Sins of a Solar Empire's pretty neat, but don't be fooled by screen shots of pretty graphics. 90% of your gameplay will be watching static mono-colored icons slowly moving around. You CAN zoom in, but any time watching the fireworks is time not managing your empire (and it's real time).
Civilization V is ok, but I feel it lost something from the earlier Civs. No real impact on the land is possible, the in-game help for units/races/buildings is lacking, stats aren't well exposed, and the system optimizations never been good, but with a couple buddys it's your best bet for world conquest fun.
I do love Galactic Civilization II, but the lack of multiplayer's pretty glaring. GalCiv III promises to remedy that.
If you find a better game right now, I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, I'm waiting on GalCiv III, Endless Legend, and Beyond Earth.

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I worry that Endless Legend will end up like Endless Space..

Have you tried Fallen Enchantress? That kinda caught my eye, but I never tried it.

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Fallen Enchantress is good, almost very good but not quite.

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I had Sins of a Solar Empire in mind, but would it be suited for me, since I'm rather new? Calactic Civilization III looks awesome, but 92 euros for an early acces game! I'll also take a look at the other games you suggested.

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I have Endless Space and played a few games. It's a good indie 4X game and I had fun with it. My only gripe with the game is that it felt small. Even with the largest galaxy, I didn't have to go far to bump into the AI. While I liked the time I spent with the game, I felt that there were better 4X games out there.

So, I installed Sins of a Solar Empire and Civ 5. I plan on giving them both a go and see which one I like better.

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I'm rather new to the genre, so I don't think I'll have a problem with it being small ;)

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Well, obviously Civ 5 and Civ 4 are two of the best 4X games ever made. If you're looking for space 4X, Gal Civ II is probably the way to go. That's the only one that has managed to suck me in for hours-long play sessions. Endless Space and Sins of a Solar Empire are both good games with nice-looking ships (something Gal Civ lacks), and they have a newer feel than Gal Civ II, but Gal Civ II is more of a Civilization in space type of 4X, which I like.

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technically the Civ games aren't true 4X games

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Sid Meier CREATED 4X gaming, yes they are 4x games

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I created Disco, if I release a techno album it's still techno, it doesn't just suddenly become didco.

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I lol'd

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I'm partial to what misfit said, but please expound upon why you think this.

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A true 4X game is way more complex, with a decent diplomacy system etc. Civ 5 for example is a 4X-lite a very dumbed down 4X. Traditionally 4X games don't have peaceful winning conditions either. (hence the X: Xterminate)

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Oh, okay, so what you really meant was "For my personal 4X preferences, the Civ games aren't true 4X games." Because "technically" implies you have actual reasons. Civ has a lovely diplomacy system etc (Usually etc. means you've given more than one example). However, I understand if those things as they are in Civ is not what you're looking for. That doesn't make them objectively un-4X-like, though.

Now, when it comes to eXterminate, you're objectively wrong. 4X games are SUPPOSED to be winnable by peaceful methods in addition to conquest. Gal Civ, the game you recommended for this question, is winnable by peaceful methods. So that's just a really odd criticism.

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Galactic Civilizations

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Noted :p

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Cant forget stardrive, I believe the creator is working on a new one

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The "Best" 4X game I think should be split into different categories.. Such as Space 4x, Historical 4X, Fantasy 4X...

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I think I disagree with you, but what do you recommend for each of these categories?

For me

Space: Gal Civ II

Historical: Civ 4

Fantasy: ? (These tend to be less good than games in the other categories, right?)

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warlock

Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes

and the last but not least master of magic :D

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my personal opinion X3: terran conflict and albion prelude are still among the best out

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classic x4 games I would say is MOO2 and Space Empires IV. Not sure if you are interested in old games. Star Ruler is one of my personal favorite. Currently playing Armada 2526 Gold edition, can't say I'd recommend that game.

I read comments, I have played Gal Civ 2...I do recommend that game. Endless Space is ok...I love everything but research (too much of +% this and +% that) and combat mechanisms.

Civ 5 Complete Edition is on my wishlist, I only have the base game...it looks good. I recommend that game to try out.

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The most fun I've ever had with those type of games was with a game called Escape Velocity: Ev Nova

You can download a free trial there from their website at no charge. 30 bucks is a bit steep for a game of it's age, but you can download the mods for the first 2 games in the series to run on the engine so its like paying 10 bucks per game.

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This so much! EV:N is one of the best space trading/combat games I've ever played. Thank you for reminding me! :D

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Always happy to stir up old memories of great games. :)

I forgot to mention too that there is another game based off of the one mentioned that is free of charge completely and you can check that out here. The name is NAEV(Not Another Escape Velocity) and it's supposed to be really good although I've only played a little of it.

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Eclipse, though it's a tabletop or iOS game.

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Endless Space!!!

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Someone else already mentioned Master Of Orion 2 here, I'd like to recommend that also. I've been hoping that someone would make a game that was as good as it in the space 4x genre but nobody has yet. It's simple to gasp with a fantastically well designed UI yet complex enough to make it a game you always want to come back to. I would strongly recommend this game to anyone who is thinking about trying the 4X genre for the first time. Sadly this game isn't on Steam but you can pick it up at GoG, its bundled with the first one for 6 bucks. Definitely worth it for such a fantastic game. Also MoO 1 is very good if you don't mind the graphics.

As a side this is a game I've been following and I'm looking forward to seeing how it plays when it comes out: clicky

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Galactic Civilizations 2 Ultimate Edition. No contest imho.

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Aurora, nicknamed the dwarf fortress of space.

No, it has no graphics, yes, it's the best one, and by far.

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MOO2:BAA is still the gold standard, despite it's dated features and obvious flaws. I think I've bought it at least 5 times since it was released... put hundreds of hours in it via LAN play in my dorm during my college years, too.

I tried Endless Space and I really liked it. I gave GalCiv 1 and 2 to a buddy and he was really digging it, but I haven't had a chance to try it yet.

As an aside: Steer clear of Master of Orion 3. Like, if anyone ever recommends the game punch that person in the face--it's unlikely you'll receive a criminal record if you explain why to the judge and the judge has ever played it.

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Space Engineers

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Master of Orion 2 :)

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Warlock - Master of the Arcane or Endless Legend

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Why isn't Sins of a Solar Empire suggested 500 times!!?!??

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MOO2. No need to go any further.

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Well Freelancer ofc.

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Master of Orion 2 - it's been very influental on everything that came after and I still prefer it over any others

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